Sorry, I just have to get something off my chest...

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I don't usually start threads like this...

This is a dose of reality that I've been thinking about for some time.

Yesterday, I went to go see a movie during the afternoon...

I paid $9.50 + $12.25 for a popcorn and coke.. Total = $21.75

Today, I was browsing the WSO section of the forum and noticed people asking a million and one questions about various $7-$12 WSO's.

If $7-$12 dollars is going to break the bank, then don't buy WSO's. But at the same time, you better look at what other things you're spending your money on.

A meal at McDonald's costs around $7...

Also, before I went to go see the movie I was checking out some reviews on fandango.com. The movie got some pretty good reviews and people seemed to enjoy it so I decided to go see it.

Personally, I thought the movie was terrible. But many other people seemed to like it so the movie probably appealed to them in a different way and I just didn't see the value in it.

I would never think of going to the theater manager's office and demanding a refund because I personally didn't like the movie. I already watched it. (I may have also decided to throw up the digested popcorn and demand a refund for that to)

Everyone has a different opinion when it comes to everything whether that be movies or WSO's....

If you don't have the money, don't spend it. But take a look around at other things you're spending money on...
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  • Profile picture of the author Avdo
    Mark,

    great point of view.. I hope lots of people here will read it
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Hess
      Originally Posted by Avdo View Post

      Mark,

      great point of view.. I hope lots of people here will read it
      Thanks, I was just thinking about it on the way home from the movie.

      How messed up the IM niche can be some times.

      Could you imagine before spending the $9.50 on a movie sending the director an email asking them various questions?

      It's $10 to see the movie, read the reviews, decide for yourself...
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      • Profile picture of the author Avdo
        Originally Posted by Mark Hess View Post


        Could you imagine before spending the $9.50 on a movie sending the director an email asking them various questions?
        HA HA HA.. this really made me laugh..

        IM niche people(not everybody of course) are really weighing too much money they tend to spend, but they do not understand that if they learn just a one small thing from that WSO, that will help them earn more money in the future, and that WSO will probably pay it self if they just invest some work to implement things they learn..
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      • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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        Originally Posted by Mark Hess View Post

        Could you imagine before spending the $9.50 on a movie sending the director an email asking them various questions?
        It depends....did the director send me an email asking me to see his movie?

        At any rate, you're right....people do waste money. Not sure why that means one should just accept wasting money on WSOs that don't deliver what was promised. If you don't want me to get a refund, don't sell me one thing, then deliver another. $9 or $90, I'm more entitled to my money than someone selling a bogus WSO. If you're ok donating your money to their cause, more power to you. I have more self-respect than that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Mark,

    Well written. Waaaay back in the day when I used to write financial plans for people, I'd sometimes grab a $100 bill and ask the client (usually it was a couple) to rip it. They said, "no way, it would be a waste!".

    Then I'd lean in and whisper, "You're doing the same thing every month when you spend X amount on X...". The X factor could have been going out to eat too often, a bad habit like smoking, buying too much coffee instead of making it at home, buying luxury items they didn't need, etc.

    To this day I'm still amazed at how much emotions come into play when people make their decisions. Your example is solid because there are people that will try to get a review copy on a $7 or $12 WSO, yet they may have spent 3x that much on beer, pizza, entertainment, or, in my case, huge amounts of coffee beans! =)

    Though there is something to be said about some of the WSOs that have such vague sales copy there's no way to even know what you're getting!

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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Parker
    Mark - Great way to look at it... Thanks for the insight!
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    I like your brand of thought.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kailness
    Nice point man...

    I've read a bunch of topics like yours that demand a kind of "change of personality" mostly for newbies like me. It's so nice that not only we can learn about how to do things in IM but also to view things through the right lens.

    IMO if someone wants to earn a lot of money or even "get rich" and can't afford to spend 10$ on a guide that is supposed to help you achieve your goals, then something is wrong with that mentality.

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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by Mark Hess View Post

      Thanks, I was just thinking about it on the way home from the movie.

      How messed up the IM niche can be some times.

      Could you imagine before spending the $9.50 on a movie sending the director an email asking them various questions?

      It's $10 to see the movie, read the reviews, decide for yourself...
      Mark, I agree with your general point. The trick with WSOs is that there isn't a fandango to read reviews on. If you have unanswered questions, about all you can do is ask them.
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  • Profile picture of the author jazbo
    These are my sentiments exactly. People are happy to throw cash at stuff like alcohol, nights out etc, but offer them something that could make them self-sufficient for $97 (the price of a night out in a city nowadays) and they get all panicky.

    Perhaps its the drip effect. you pay in its for social things, rather than upfront in one go?
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  • Profile picture of the author GoGetta
    Funny, I was thinking the same thing last night myself on the run up to a new WSO launch!

    I went to the movies but it was full and ended up grabbing some dinner with my girlfriend. We spent about $60 on food and a few drinks without batting an eyelid!

    I couldn't agree more!

    When you think of it, you spend money just about daily on things without thinking! But a $10 WSO, no you need to think about that!

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    • Profile picture of the author drew3806
      The OP kind of resonates for me because most new comers want to make money online completely free without any outlay of cash. While this can be done, it makes the job much harder, and puts your fate in the hands of Blogger, Squidoo, or any of the other free platforms.

      How many posts have there been about canceled blogger blogs recently?

      While I am not making a killing or a full time living, I am making money, and most of my earnings come from self hosted Wordpress blogs. I also have a Premium US Freeads account that pays for itself every month now.

      But starting out I had to commit to spending the extra $20 a month for hosting and USFreeads, and 8 bucks per domain without any guarantee of success.

      What this does is gets some of your "skin in the game", and this will cause you to focus and take action so you are not wasting that money every month.

      Another thing this will do is teach you to "fail" successfully. If you are not failing frequently, you are probably not taking enough action to succeed. We have been taught to fear failure by our school systems, but it is a vital & necessary part of success.

      If you cannot find a way to free up 20 or 30 dollars a month for starting up your internet business, IMO you are not committed enough to succeed.

      You can always find room in your budget for something you really WANT. After all, cell phone service and internet access were not around just 20 years ago, and people found a way to incorporate them into their budget.

      If you truly want success in IM, you can figure out a way to pay for it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mark Hess
        Originally Posted by drew3806 View Post


        If you cannot find a way to free up 20 or 30 dollars a month for starting up your internet business, IMO you are not committed enough to succeed.

        You can always find room in your budget for something you really WANT. After all, cell phone service and internet access were not around just 20 years ago, and people found a way to incorporate them into their budget.

        If you truly want success in IM, you can figure out a way to pay for it.

        EXACTLY...

        I know there are many ways to look at this post, but just seeing threads about free autoresponders and free hosting...

        Aweber first month: $1.00
        Hosting: $8.00
        Domain Name: $9.00

        Total - $18

        Movie - $21.75

        If you want to build a business, then build it right. If you want to mess around and worry more about your "entertainment" then building your business don't expect to make to much money.
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        • Profile picture of the author terenceyang
          Yes Mark,

          I cannot agree more. You are very analytical, which is something I ought to learn...
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    I feel your pain Mark.

    It's just the mindset on some people - the same mindset that makes it impossible for them to achieve success.

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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Brian
    I watch movies almost every weekend and there are definitely those that I didn't like and it never crossed my mind to ask a refund. I could only blame the review sites. Seriously, a very enlightening point of view.
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  • Profile picture of the author EvcRo
    Sorry but i have to disagree

    WSO are supposed to make you money, movies to relax

    20$ at the movie have nothing to do with 20$ on a WSO, there is no comparison ground.

    You still had fun going out and socializing, that's the price we all pay. Buying 20$ WSO that don't deliver anything is wasted money , thieved feeling and stress. That's why all those questions.
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    • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
      Originally Posted by EvcRo View Post

      WSO are supposed to make you money, movies to relax
      WSO's are supposed to TEACH YOU something. Not make you money.

      I don't buy a $20 WSO expecting a $100 bill inside.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Hess
      Originally Posted by EvcRo View Post

      Sorry but i have to disagree

      WSO are supposed to make you money, movies to relax

      20$ at the movie have nothing to do with 20$ on a WSO, there is no comparison ground.

      You still had fun going out and socializing, that's the price we all pay. Buying 20$ WSO that don't deliver anything is wasted money , thieved feeling and stress. That's why all those questions.
      Everyone has their own opinions...

      Many people wouldn't think twice about spending $20 to go see a movie but then have this massive debate in their mind about spending $7 on a product.

      I thought the movie sucked so I wasn't entertained at all. That's a waste of $20. Plus, the biggest ROI I would have received is a 2 hour period of entertainment.
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    • Profile picture of the author Robert Puddy
      Originally Posted by EvcRo View Post

      Sorry but i have to disagree

      WSO are supposed to make you money, movies to relax

      20$ at the movie have nothing to do with 20$ on a WSO, there is no comparison ground.

      You still had fun going out and socializing, that's the price we all pay. Buying 20$ WSO that don't deliver anything is wasted money , thieved feeling and stress. That's why all those questions.

      As kevin riley said in another thread... If your looking for guarantees in everything you try then you need to go look up the meaning of entrepeuner before you decide to become one.
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  • Profile picture of the author Diana Lane
    For the most part, I agree. $10 is peanuts compared to what most of us spend on utter rubbish and unnecessities (if that wasn't a word, it is now), and it's a no-brainer that if a product can earn it's cost back many times over once it's been applied to your business then it's a better use of money than frittering it away on beer to cry into.

    I'd never discourage asking questions, though. A couple of minutes spent doing that is more cost-effective than time spent buying the product, finding it's not for you and then going through the refund rigmarole. Time is money, only time is not as easy to come by.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      In the WSO section, people are often buying dreams. They don't see those buys as paying for a period of entertainment but are trying to buy a future.

      They are looking for someone to tell them what to do - and looking for "reviews" only to convince themselves to take a chance. They want proof this latest dream could be a reality and think if it worked for someone else it will work for them.

      When you pay for a movie you don't expect anything long term to come from it. People look for WSO's that will solve their personal problems and maybe they are more demanding because of that mindset.

      If paying $7-12 for something that might or might not "work" for you is a big investment, buying anything may not be a good idea.

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      • Profile picture of the author Mark Hess
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post


        If paying $7-12 for something that might or might not "work" for you is a big investment, buying anything may not be a good idea.

        kay
        That's what it's all about, justifying purchases...

        I was just trying to make the point that people wouldn't hesitate to go see a movie, eat at McDonald's, or spend $6 for a beer at the bar.

        But you have to throw out every angle imaginable to get them to invest $7...
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
    [QUOTE=Mark Hess;1991912]Yesterday, I went to go see a movie during the afternoon...

    I paid $9.50 + $12.25 for a popcorn and coke.. Total = $21.75 QUOTE]

    We can use this in a sales page or sales letter by comparing the price to what we sell.

    For example, "This amazing secret WSO is only $20. That is less than you would spend to see a movie and get some popcorn. The movie won't help put money in your pocket. My WSO will. In fact my super dooooooper WSO can put sooooo much money in your pocket you will be able to go to all the movies you want "


    :-Don
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  • Profile picture of the author yommys01
    Great post man. Some people's attitude is just annoying. If you can invest $7 in your business then you shouldn't be in business.

    Many know "the WSO" in the back of their mind that they have bought a very good WSO but still ask for refunds.

    How do you explain someone asking for refund after buying an wso claiming they never thought about the work involve.

    Money may be growing on trees in your country but " plucking the money" still involves some work.
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  • Profile picture of the author theemperor
    Originally Posted by Mark Hess View Post

    This is a dose of reality that I've been thinking about for some time.

    Yesterday, I went to go see a movie during the afternoon...

    I paid $9.50 + $12.25 for a popcorn and coke.. Total = $21.75

    Today, I was browsing the WSO section of the forum and noticed people asking a million and one questions about various $7-$12 WSO's.

    If $7-$12 dollars is going to break the bank, then don't buy WSO's. But at the same time, you better look at what other things you're spending your money on.

    A meal at McDonald's costs around $7...

    Also, before I went to go see the movie I was checking out some reviews on fandango.com. The movie got some pretty good reviews and people seemed to enjoy it so I decided to go see it.

    Personally, I thought the movie was terrible. But many other people seemed to like it so the movie probably appealed to them in a different way and I just didn't see the value in it.

    I would never think of going to the theater manager's office and demanding a refund because I personally didn't like the movie. I already watched it. (I may have also decided to throw up the digested popcorn and demand a refund for that to)

    Everyone has a different opinion when it comes to everything whether that be movies or WSO's....

    If you don't have the money, don't spend it. But take a look around at other things you're spending money on...
    What puts me off WSO's and makes them a rare purchase for me is not that I'll lose $7 or $97 if it doesn't work, but the investment of time that would be lost. Plus the fact that everyone just says how good someones WSO is and a lot of back slapping and ego boosting seems to go on. The "too good to be true" switch invariably comes on in my brain and I so I am yet to buy a WSO!

    E.g. I saw one that was a make $1000 a day within a few days using this "method", the secret is yours for only $29. (!!!)

    Just makes me think if I had a method to do that I wouldn't be selling it for $29 - say you sell 100 copies that is only 3 days revenue and you may as well stick with the method rather than sell it on.

    So it is not that I wouldn't part with $29 ... it is just that I don't believe it.

    In fact ... make it $499 with a money-back guarantee from Clickbank - I may be interested then. I will pay $0 if it is rubbish. If it works $499 is just 1/2 days work isn't it.

    But I do believe in movies and popcorn!
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    • Profile picture of the author Andrew Davis
      Originally Posted by theemperor View Post

      What puts me off WSO's and makes them a rare purchase for me is not that I'll lose $7 or $97 if it doesn't work, but the investment of time that would be lost. Plus the fact that everyone just says how good someones WSO is and a lot of back slapping and ego boosting seems to go on. The "too good to be true" switch invariably comes on in my brain and I so I am yet to buy a WSO!
      I agree with this.

      For me the Problem isn't that much the money at times, it is the waste of time you spent reading a Bad WSO, which:

      1) You already know everything explained in there.
      2) The article was poor, not even worth reading for free.
      3) Deters you more from buying future WSO's every-time you run into a poor one.

      I do prefer to read a review first, before buying a WSO, or even reading most of them for free.

      My hours are pretty busy, so I don't like spending them on non-sense.

      (Most new Movies are coming with reviews by the way "Mr. XYZ calls it the best Movie of the year!" etc...). Plus they do an awesome Job at advertising!

      I'm just 22, and however I have have only been to the Movies like once in the past 6 years!

      Building my businesses is more fun
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      Many of the WSO's are worth it though!
      Some just aren't

      [PS] I agree with the Topic Starter's Analogy very much by the way!
      I agree with him
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  • Profile picture of the author JAIDEEP2959
    Originally Posted by Mark Hess View Post


    If $7-$12 dollars is going to break the bank, then don't buy WSO's.
    This is a very good point.

    For getting rewards, one has to take the risk.

    How can WSO owner guarantee success of his/her WSO?

    Rather than asking so many questions, purchase and apply the method.
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  • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
    Originally Posted by Mark Hess View Post

    This is a dose of reality that I've been thinking about for some time.

    Yesterday, I went to go see a movie during the afternoon...

    I paid $9.50 + $12.25 for a popcorn and coke.. Total = $21.75

    Today, I was browsing the WSO section of the forum and noticed people asking a million and one questions about various $7-$12 WSO's.

    If $7-$12 dollars is going to break the bank, then don't buy WSO's. But at the same time, you better look at what other things you're spending your money on.

    A meal at McDonald's costs around $7...

    Also, before I went to go see the movie I was checking out some reviews on fandango.com. The movie got some pretty good reviews and people seemed to enjoy it so I decided to go see it.

    Personally, I thought the movie was terrible. But many other people seemed to like it so the movie probably appealed to them in a different way and I just didn't see the value in it.

    I would never think of going to the theater manager's office and demanding a refund because I personally didn't like the movie. I already watched it. (I may have also decided to throw up the digested popcorn and demand a refund for that to)

    Everyone has a different opinion when it comes to everything whether that be movies or WSO's....

    If you don't have the money, don't spend it. But take a look around at other things you're spending money on...
    Spot on.

    I hear too many people complaining about the price of stuff, yet they drink Starbucks coffee, chat aimlessly all day long on a cell phone, and have cable TV and broadband internet at the house.

    Sometimes, I just wonder what people like that are thinking........:confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author shabit87
    LOL, you sound like my dad. I'll sometimes sit at home debating whether I should go out or not. And most times, it'll cost me 10-15. I won't break me, I just want to make sure the money is being spent well. I would imagine its that way for people here. We want to feel like were getting a great (not good) but great deal on a WSO...maybe secretly even the feeling that we're taking advantage.

    Just think how one might feel when they made $100 off a $7 investment versus paying $7, reading the WSO and feeling like it won't work, taking no action, and feeling cheated. Now is the the WSO creators fault...not really, but the reality is people want to feel like they've gotten the best deal they can for the least amount (cash, time, effort, etc) on their part.

    Wow, that might be a bit sad, huh?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kelly Verge
    Remember this when you're building value in your sales letter.

    Also remember that the WSO section doesn't equal the wider world of MMO, and MMO doesn't equal the even wider world of marketing.

    In the WSO section, there are so many people selling "The Big Dream" for $7 that it's increasingly more difficult to sell less than the dream.

    I get tons of offline questions all the time. Buyers of my $9 tools in many ways want to get a full offline education for that price. I don't blame them, but again, in this marketplace it's harder to sell based on real value today than it was a couple of years ago. The fault is those who over-hype and undercut. Those who sell "make $10K per day in your underwear" "systems" for $7. It's become the norm.

    Rather than trying to compete with that, I'll keep selling shovels.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    VERY nice post OP, so true!

    A WSO is only worth what you make of it - even a "old" method can be worth millions. A $7 WSO often can give you a boost to do something even if you already somehow "knew" about those things, but never did it.

    Sometimes,WSOs contain 90% already known, but the remaining 10% can pay off BIG TIME...or sometimes the earnings of other people simply motivate to do something. There is always SOME value in them
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  • Profile picture of the author sloanjim
    shows you how cheap most people are...I've seen people demanding free copies, money back guarantees, re-assurances on $7-$15 software, reports, courses etc....Yet like you say offline we spend $50+ on little things no problem.

    I mean one guy went on and on about "high priced products software" it was $49. He said was "high priced" $49......I thought anything about about $300 was classed as high priced maybe even $1,000+?

    The trouble is if you get down and dirty with people who scream and bitch about $7.....you are setting uoir-self up for a world of frustration.

    I said it before offline a lawyer can charge $200+ per hour no problem....if he went online and put his advice down in an ebook he's be lucky to get $9.95 for it and then have to deal with the refunders, moaners. I guess where you fish determines the size of your catch?
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  • Profile picture of the author sloanjim
    Spot on.

    I hear too many people complaining about the price of stuff, yet they drink Starbucks coffee, chat aimlessly all day long on a cell phone, and have cable TV and broadband internet at the house.

    Sometimes, I just wonder what people like that are thinking......
    One guy said he was on the verge of becoming homeless and had no money left to put in his "bizz," pay the online bills etc... In another thread he boasted about paying $65 per month cable...."BANGS HEAD ON DESK" DUHHHH.
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  • Profile picture of the author tjs1954
    Originally Posted by Mark Hess View Post

    I don't usually start threads like this...

    This is a dose of reality that I've been thinking about for some time.

    Yesterday, I went to go see a movie during the afternoon...

    I paid $9.50 + $12.25 for a popcorn and coke.. Total = $21.75

    Today, I was browsing the WSO section of the forum and noticed people asking a million and one questions about various $7-$12 WSO's.

    If $7-$12 dollars is going to break the bank, then don't buy WSO's. But at the same time, you better look at what other things you're spending your money on.

    A meal at McDonald's costs around $7...

    Also, before I went to go see the movie I was checking out some reviews on fandango.com. The movie got some pretty good reviews and people seemed to enjoy it so I decided to go see it.

    Personally, I thought the movie was terrible. But many other people seemed to like it so the movie probably appealed to them in a different way and I just didn't see the value in it.

    I would never think of going to the theater manager's office and demanding a refund because I personally didn't like the movie. I already watched it. (I may have also decided to throw up the digested popcorn and demand a refund for that to)

    Everyone has a different opinion when it comes to everything whether that be movies or WSO's....

    If you don't have the money, don't spend it. But take a look around at other things you're spending money on...
    I hear ya, have you bought a gallon of milk lately?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
      I agree with you but perhaps if a movie promised to flood your account with thousands of dollars by just watching the movie then people would demand a refund.

      The biggest scam out there...bananas. They look so good and yellow at the store but by the time I get home they're spoiled. But no I don't demand a refund.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
    Originally Posted by Mark Hess View Post

    I don't usually start threads like this...

    This is a dose of reality that I've been thinking about for some time.

    Yesterday, I went to go see a movie during the afternoon...

    I paid $9.50 + $12.25 for a popcorn and coke.. Total = $21.75

    Today, I was browsing the WSO section of the forum and noticed people asking a million and one questions about various $7-$12 WSO's.

    If $7-$12 dollars is going to break the bank, then don't buy WSO's. But at the same time, you better look at what other things you're spending your money on.

    A meal at McDonald's costs around $7...

    Also, before I went to go see the movie I was checking out some reviews on fandango.com. The movie got some pretty good reviews and people seemed to enjoy it so I decided to go see it.

    Personally, I thought the movie was terrible. But many other people seemed to like it so the movie probably appealed to them in a different way and I just didn't see the value in it.

    I would never think of going to the theater manager's office and demanding a refund because I personally didn't like the movie. I already watched it. (I may have also decided to throw up the digested popcorn and demand a refund for that to)

    Everyone has a different opinion when it comes to everything whether that be movies or WSO's....

    If you don't have the money, don't spend it. But take a look around at other things you're spending money on...



    Ah, nothing like a little common sense to brighten up my morning. I do believe that there is a place for refunds but they should be rare IMO (IE: The product has nothing to do with what was promised, etc..).
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Nice post Marc.

    I believe your right that there is a general tendancy to forget other financially wasteful practices but focus on the price when you are hoping (due to sales page promises) that a WSO will help.

    With my Devils Advocate hat on I keep thinking that if you were expecting a movie purchase to increase your income and then it was obviously crap and would not - you might feel differently than just not enjoying a movie (which is created for entertainment purposes and very subjective).

    But I agree with your point.
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  • Profile picture of the author madison_avenue
    Yesterday, I went to go see a movie during the afternoon...

    I paid $9.50 + $12.25 for a popcorn and coke.. Total = $21.75
    You were willing to pay that without question because you were buying from a recognizable brand, whom you trusted. Coca cola and then the pop corn suppliers have probably spent millions of dollars to get that recognition.

    Warriors selling WSO's don't have a recognizable brand, so the buyer is naturally more wary when buying a product. Of course there are, shall we say some elite warriors who do have some sort of "brand recognition" because they have track record of providing value for money and they can sell products more easily.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
    I think your post is really true. I live in a less than desirable neighbourhood, and it never ceases to amaze me the people that smoke, or do drugs, yet have no money for food. Or they have cable, internet and everything else under the sun, top of the line cell phones etc yet they can't afford to feed themselves.

    I also agree that if you have to hmm and haw about that $7 WSO, you shouldn't be buying it. I understand doing your due diligence, but some people are way over the top with the way they look at WSO's.

    Just my 2 cents.

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  • Profile picture of the author CC
    Originally Posted by Mark Hess View Post

    I don't usually start threads like this...

    This is a dose of reality that I've been thinking about for some time.

    Yesterday, I went to go see a movie during the afternoon...

    I paid $9.50 + $12.25 for a popcorn and coke.. Total = $21.75

    Today, I was browsing the WSO section of the forum and noticed people asking a million and one questions about various $7-$12 WSO's.

    If $7-$12 dollars is going to break the bank, then don't buy WSO's. But at the same time, you better look at what other things you're spending your money on.

    A meal at McDonald's costs around $7...

    Also, before I went to go see the movie I was checking out some reviews on fandango.com. The movie got some pretty good reviews and people seemed to enjoy it so I decided to go see it.

    Personally, I thought the movie was terrible. But many other people seemed to like it so the movie probably appealed to them in a different way and I just didn't see the value in it.

    I would never think of going to the theater manager's office and demanding a refund because I personally didn't like the movie. I already watched it. (I may have also decided to throw up the digested popcorn and demand a refund for that to)

    Everyone has a different opinion when it comes to everything whether that be movies or WSO's....

    If you don't have the money, don't spend it. But take a look around at other things you're spending money on...
    Mark, this is something that has been going through my head as well..and being fairly new on this forum reading all those questions about the WSO's, it just makes me wonder if this scares off people from posting a WSO?

    Maybe we need a WSO that outlines the questions one might expect and how to be pleasantly diplomatic, especially answering some of those questions that are posted!

    I can't believe the twisting and turning that goes on over the price, maybe Allen can install a virtual quarter to flip with the WSO's. Should I or shouldn't I.

    It's likely that the money for a WSO that's $7 to $10 can be found in change hanging around the house and in the couch.

    Good point Mark.

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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Hess
      Originally Posted by CC View Post

      Mark, this is something that has been going through my head as well..and being fairly new on this forum reading all those questions about the WSO's, it just makes me wonder if this scares off people from posting a WSO?

      Maybe we need a WSO that outlines the questions one might expect and how to be pleasantly diplomatic, especially answering some of those questions that are posted!

      I can't believe the twisting and turning that goes on over the price, maybe Allen can install a virtual quarter to flip with the WSO's. Should I or shouldn't I.

      It's likely that the money for a WSO that's $7 to $10 can be found in change hanging around the house and in the couch.

      Good point Mark.

      Connie
      Connie- It's not that asking and answering questions in a WSO thread is a bad thing. If you're running a WSO it can actually help increase sales and provide the person with a little more clarity about the product so they can make an informed decision.

      It's just that sometimes, you can tell when a person is really struggling with the decision to purchase or not and I just feel that when a person does that, they should think about what other things in life cost and the fact that the particular product would be an investment in their business.

      (on a side note, all of my "thanks" have been used up on this thread and the button no longer appears. Don't take it personally if you didn't get "thanked". The whole system is overrated anyhow: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...bias-rant.html )
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Let's say you want to read the e-book you got from a WSO more than once. No problem. Go to your hard drive and read it - for free.

    If you want to watch a new movie again, you will spend that $7 to $15 every time.

    AND...

    If you really like it, you'll spend anouther $20 on the DVD when it that comes out.

    Hmmm...

    Perhaps a "movie style" WSO would be cool. If you want to read it when it's new, you can, for a small fee. Want to read it again? BOOM! Same fee. Then, 3 months later when you can actually download it to read at your leisure, you can pay 2 to 3 times the amount it cost to view it previously.

    Genius I tells ya!

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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    Dude, you are thinking exactly what I'm thinking. If you don't like a product or if you already know what's in it then you should not try and get a refund all the times. I mean why don't people just think of the money spent on those products as loss in business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nicky Papers
    I think when the dough is coming in I tend to spend more...

    When I was making more money a few years ago with lead gen and such (mainly mortgage) I'd rip though cash without blinking. Also, I saved quite a bit too.

    Trips to Vegas. Buying bottles at clubs. Expensive dinners.... It didn't matter! Also I was making $ day trading too.

    Today... times have changed. Credit is no longer an option. Loans are hard to come by. Businesses are shutting down. People are not buying as much as they did.

    Meanwhile.... prices are going up!
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