Why Do So Many Newbies Think They Can Just Make a Website and Start Getting Paid

Amen shout it to the roof tops.

There's nothing wrong with businesses in a box. I mean franchises are successful all over the place. People just think that online "franchises" (biz in a box) require no WORK.

Just b/c it's laid out doesn't mean there isn't work involved.

The only place I've ever seen where "businesspeople" want everything for free is the internet..."set and forget" should be left to Ron Popeil infomercials

Cheers,

Brad

well you can blame 90% of the people selling products in the IM niche, it's called hype.

None of them say 'through hard work you achieve a comfortable lifestyle from home' doesn't really sell them a lot does it?

They all give the impression that you can make millions from doing very little work

Because most newbies who have no sort of guidance and have been constantly exposed to the "Get Rich Quick Schemes". So they believe everything they see. The truth is that, unless they hit the lottery, they can not get rich overnight!!!

People who think they can become rich online by doing very little work are probably not even worth responding to. They're obviously looking for a get rich quick scheme that doesn't actually exist and are not at all interested in working hard for their earnings.

However, there are many people starting out in the online world who simply don't know how much work is involved, but would like to find out. We all started somewhere and had to search online to learn more about our chosen niche, how to promote our products/information and how to maximize our profits. Some people are ready and willing to put the hours in and are just looking for some pointers to hit the ground running.

These two types of people are usually identified easily by their posting style, so I try not to waste my time conversing with the people in the former group, whereas I'm more than happy to spend time helping out those in the latter group.

I put a store on Ebay before I figured out I had to market it. I didn't so needless to say it didn't get very far. That was a big eye opener for me cause I thought dang I know people are making money so obviously there is more to it........and I don't think I am totally stupid I just think I didn't have the knowledge at the time that it took to make that successful. I'm learning tho!

People think it's easy simply because IMers have done a great job of creating this illusion. We have contributed to this elaborate facade with all our sales letters, hype creation and exaggerated claims. So yeah.. over time it kinda creates an expectation for those who no nuts about this business.

Because that's what all the MMO hypey crap tells them.

I think the "casino" mentality plays into this a lot. Everybody talks about their success, but few people talk about their failures/losses. This means that the average conversation is all about success... and it creates unrealistic expectations.

The truth is, it is fairly easy to make money online... but it still takes serious effort. The expectations are really what ruins it for most people. If they approach it like a normal business, they would be pleasantly surprised by the benefits rather than disappointed by the work.

I recently wrote an article about this titled "Aren't You Glad Online Success Isn't Easy". Here is a quote that I think applies to this discussion:

"When it comes right down to it, building a successful online business is simple. However, there is a big difference between "simple" and "easy". Simple means everyone can do it, but easy means everyone will do it. When everyone does something, the reward for doing it quickly disappears."

Because that's what the guy on the TV commercial said, and they wouldn't let him on TV saying that if it wasn't true!!! They just need to build a website and send him like 5 payments of $37 and they can achieve financial independence with his automated system where they can be collecting cash while they sleep!

I don't know that many people treat it as a business. Maybe more of a Get Rich Quick thing, but not a business. And that may come from all the hard sales pitches or maybe they haven't been in business before and don't know what to expect.

I have 17 years as a GM at Coca-Cola and had a pretty good idea what it would take to get started online. It is a business and you have to feed and grow it that way.

If you have the right approach and can stick to a plan the upside is tremendous.

Don't blame the newbies, blame the hype.

I been in sales for a long time. Despite what you think of yourself, you are psycologically programmed to want to get lots of benefits for little to no effort.

I have done my time in the trenches (anyone seen boiler room?), and everyone is susceptible to the "easy lazy" pitch. Everyone says they are not, but ultimately if its pitched in the right way it makes you tempted enough to temporarily over rule your common sense and allow you to be closed.

Marketers play on lazyness and greed to make sales. I'm not knocking it, it's just the way it is.

Without hype, its harder to sell.

Because theres probably at least 10,000 one page minisites saying so plastered all over the internet,in our email boxes,on TV,ect..

Plus this is all the gurus tell us all the time.I just deleted and unsubscribed from 6 today alone.Now even the noobs are promting it because they see every one else doing it.

What???? You mean I can't make a million$$$ in my first week. I'm going back to selling pencils. just kidding.

hmmm....maybe it's because of the ebook and website that other's IM'rs put up that promise $1000 overnight?

Your subject And "making Millions" as you said in your post are two different things.

People think they can set up a website or enter other facets of Internet Marketing and start getting paid right away because they can. However, making millions, that's another story.

Anyone willing to work hard can at least immidiatly replace a Job. And what "job" ever makes anyone millions?

George Wright

Thing is, you need to look at most of the products being circulated and sold today. A lot of them promise to teach you simple methods to make money online. Some of them even claim to be able to teach you how to make that tidy sum in a matter of days !

But then, the term most people use is - simple.

Simple means that it's easy to understand and apply for those who already have some knowledge about the said field. That, unfortunately, is misinterpreted as "get rich quick"

or something like,

"Honey, lemme spend 15 mins on this before bed... we'll be rich people tomorrow !!"

That's probably why everyone thinks it's all about putting up a website n all...

Simple. Because that is what's promised with so many products.

truth is that this is the sales pattern. marketers will present it the easy way to sell their product. the other angle of it is that it is very difficult to define the amount of work it requires to succeed. it is not just enough to say that it requires hard work, am most interested in finding out the amount of effort required. WHAT IS THE AMOUNT OF HARD WORD REQUIRED. can anybody list out all it takes from scratch to succeed, including the amount of days, volume of work and what in particular we refer to as WORK. since this is difficult to state, marketers simply tell what they think the buyers will like to hear. but having come this far in this forum I think we should tell each other some truth that newbies need to study the business, put in some time to build it. the time required depends on what you choose to do and let us always try to sow our newbies what ways to take.

thanx guys.

Even though it's the EXCEPTION and not the rule it is possible
to make a lot of money early. I've seen people do this and
it is indeed possible. It's not always just hype.

One guy (now infamous) had his ebook written for him and
promoted by the gurus and made a killing.

In early days of Adsense you could buy a software that
spit out pages and make a killing with this program.

Once you could write some PPC ads and have money
in your account the same day. It's getting tougher
to make these lucky breakthroughs but still not
impossible.

What about the millions dollar page selling pixels?
Remember that one?

-Ray Edwards

I tend to agree with you raydal but you sure do have to find someone (guru), who you have had in your corner with your product for a minute, to go along with this nevertheless maybe using his "list" to brew this fortune nearly overnite. I am close with some PC, EC and Coach V.....but to tell you the truth....just cause we share family stories and many other tid bits....I must say they are not telling me their honest to goodness powerhouses of advertising, other than the list they are using. They don't mention anything until they are completely done with them and then pass them on to the associates and make a killing off the sale of what "once" worked and maybe will work 6 months from now the slow drip way. I am seeing even on tv informercial whereas a young man basically wanting people to be affiliates under him and telling the nation on television that the "said" company with pay him a "bonus" if he brought more people to them! That meaning that he would help you to make money cause it will benefit him. They know nothing of how affiliate and IM work then, cause that is what he just described blindly. Until people realize that you have to create your own system or plan of action of what you are going to do to work your business....nothing with come of it. I agree as a newbie....I will not use certain areas that people say are very productive for them. One has to use what is a passion for them. That is why so many people don't do well if you don't know how to wrap your mind around ppc, adsense or any of these other wonderful advertising vehicles....find what you are comfortable with and then master it. It does work! Just my 2 cents is all.

Reminds me back when i started, where i made my FIRST ever site using XSP in a horrible niche (anti virus programs). Then i slapped some clickbank banners around on the site and seriously thought the money will start rolling in

The truth is, BASICALLY it actually does work, and there are indeed many millionaires who made their money with their web sites.

The little difference is in that word "just". Because you cant simply "just" set a site up - its a LOT of constant work. Even in a micro niche it can take months and months to rank the site....let alone a main stream niche for eg. "weight loss"...

Yah true, because may SEO's and other marketer encourage people to earn by this, and many site offering home base job, i thinks that could be a reason

thanks

Most newbies want to be able to quit their day jobs and stay home starting next week. So in order to do that, they need to believe the hype they read. Which also is the reason why so many sales letters convert well.

I was guilty of jumping around from thing to thing the first few years I was online. It wasn't until I decided to stick one thing through no matter how long it took to see if it really worked. Well, let's just say it was indeed a learning process and took a heck of a lot longer than I wanted it to, but in the end it was worth it.

Now, three years later, I am making a steady income online. Still tweaking things of course for better results, but it took time.

As long as the newbies are running around buying up all of the "dreams" they find online, they will never know. And it isn't fair for the marketers to reel them in that way and play on their emotions, yet this is the way things seem to be done.

As long as those like us can get out there and help the newbies to realize that although true success in business will not be an over night thing, with a step by step plan, it can be something that is achieved within a reasonable time with due diligence and persistence. Soon enough more newbies will start to change their mindset and maybe then the percentage rate of successful online businesses will begin to rise.

I like how half of you warriors are complaining about it and the other half are promoting these kinds of programs in your sigs (maybe not half in either category, but A LOT). the reason people look for the easy way with this online thing is because it is very hardcore and intimidating if you dont know what your doing. cut them some slack, we created this monster.

Because many people are telling them they can do so !

I mean look on the forums here how many get rich quick schemes can you spot, they cant all possibly work lol !

In fact of course we all know there is money to be made out there, but people want to take short cuts and not have to actually do any hard work to get money !

It also takes a lot of patience which is sadly lacking today.

Woc