Caffeine

16 years ago

Heh. I am also addicted to caffiene I must say. Although I am doing much better now, some days I don't drink any at all, only water. But if I do have one sip during the day, I'm hooked and continue drinking the rest of the day.

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XFactor

16 years ago

Originally Posted by ahuddy

Heh. I am also addicted to caffiene I must say. Although I am doing much better now, some days I don't drink any at all, only water. But if I do have one sip during the day, I'm hooked and continue drinking the rest of the day.

But would you say it hurts or helps your ability to concentrate when working
on the computer all day?

It have to say it has hurt my internet marketing goals, a lot more than I want to admit

- John

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Emailrevealer 16 years ago

No way. I feel much better after I quit drinnking coffee. I usually wind up back on the stuff but I always feel better when I''m off it
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ahuddy

16 years ago

I don't think it really hurts them. I still stay focused on working throughout the day either way. Ginkgo is supposed to work much better for focusing. Though I don't take supplements, you could try using this keep focus.

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jestershaw

16 years ago

I can't conduct any work until I have my first cup of coffee...call me an addict if you will but you won't be seeing me in rehab.

Love the coffee.

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16 years ago

Hi XFactor
Now I will drink a cup of coffee your post is an irresitible ad to drink coffee

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Barbara Eyre 16 years ago

While I do not doubt the "power" of caffiene (or sugar) for those who need them to 'jump start' their day ... neither of them does a thing for me. I can drink caffiene drinks right and left (and have sugar right and left) and I can turn around and go to bed just fine. Been that way literally my whole life.

Come to think of it, I don't really need anything to get me going like someone does with coffee.

I'm just odd I think LOL :rolleyes:
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GeorgR.

16 years ago

Coffee in the morning == A MUST!

However, i noticed i become more creative, later on, if i drink strong tea.

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adamv 16 years ago

Caffine has no effect on me whatsoever. I don't like hot beverages of any kind (I know I'm weird) but I love ice'd coffee. It doesn't matter if I drink 1 or 3 - no effect.

The only difference between drinking coffee or not, is I'll need to take a piss after.
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TashylaB

16 years ago

To be honest I can't tell a difference If the caffeine makes a difference or not. But caffeine is off limits until my daughter is born

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cclou

16 years ago

I'm caffeine sensitive, so no coffee to me. Yerba mate doesn't have the same bad affects, but it does help me feel alert, so I drink a couple cups of that a day instead.

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Rachel Goodchild

16 years ago

A study was carried out while I was at uni that discovered that caffiene helps us become more alert, but our thoughts are also less structured and ordered

Drinking water is far better in terms of keeping you alert.

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Andy Money

16 years ago

Originally Posted by XFactor

This may seem off-topic but its not.

Every morning I wake up early and the first thing my body tells me that I
need which will be good for my work - is Coffee.

How many of you say that Caffeine helps your online work?

I ask because no matter how much I love it, I ALWAYS feel worse about
an hour after having my cup of brew.

I then crave it again and will have another cup, only to lose concentration
on my work.

Every night I swear off coffee but in the morning, at the wee hours of dawn,
I give in.

It's time for me to quit.

How about you? Do you work better on the PC with Coffee?

- John

This is a sign of addiction. I know because I went through it a few weeks ago and it was terrible. I had about a week long of no appetite and massive headaches, I couldn't do anything. I really got out of control. I'm just now starting to get a handle back on it but it's no good. Do everything you can to keep caffeine out of your system, you'll be soooo much better off, I promise.

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XFactor

16 years ago

Originally Posted by mrsleep99

This is a sign of addiction. I know because I went through it a few weeks ago and it was terrible. I had about a week long of no appetite and massive headaches, I couldn't do anything. I really got out of control. I'm just now starting to get a handle back on it but it's no good. Do everything you can to keep caffeine out of your system, you'll be soooo much better off, I promise.

I agree with you, and am working on it.

Good to know I'm not alone. It seems like everyone is drinking coffee all day and
just living it up, feeling great.

- John

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Andy Money

16 years ago

Originally Posted by XFactor

I agree with you, and am working on it.

Good to know I'm not alone. It seems like everyone is drinking coffee all day and
just living it up, feeling great.

- John

I know exactly what you mean hahahaha.

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liban 16 years ago

Caffeine is a stimulant, and it actually helps many people with ADHD to focus...
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Laid Back One

16 years ago

Well... Caffeine....hmm common denominator..."INE" same as Nicotine....even dare I say Ampehtimine...even Ritalin (market name) is derived from AmphetamINE)
I say "If you like do...If you dont then dont"
Either way you decide...
As for me...well me keeping on keeping on
As for me outter here peace love respect...
The Laid Back One

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DanielKemp

16 years ago

I drink lots of soda which gives me lots of caffeine. I think the sugar and caffeine work great for keeping me going.

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ItsMoneytime 16 years ago

I really dont do the caffeine thing, the thought of making money does just fine for me
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- XFactor 16 years ago
  
  I'm also getting to the age (35) where I can't seem to do the same
  things I used to do without really feeling it.
  
  Internet marketing is very important to me so since caffeine is effecting me
  this negatively then I've got to face the withdrawals and stop.
  
  Uggg, the next few days are going to be rough.
  
  - John
  
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billionareHuman

16 years ago

caffiene can make me anxious sometimes which is not a good feeling, however I love the taste of coffee so I can't give it up

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LB

16 years ago

I've got two words:

Yerba Maté

Gets you going like coffee but without the hyper side effects.

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Boonee 16 years ago

Good Luck, John. I want to say that I think you will be better off without it.
Once your system gets cleared out, try a cup of fresh squeezed OJ in the morning. It's tasty and the vitamin C is great for your immune system.

Best,
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Alethia 16 years ago

Originally Posted by LB

I've got two words:

Yerba Maté

Gets you going like coffee but without the hyper side effects.

Totally agree, this stuff is the best, you also don't crash off of it like coffee.
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- Steve Steinitz 16 years ago
  
  Caffeine has a powerful effect on me. I treat it with respect and perceive it as a strong drug. I also believe it produces a mild psychedelic effect, being an 'alkaloid' plant (chemists?) as are sources of stronger psychedelics.
  
  I have an arrangement with my local coffee shop to make me a special brew every morning: a large mug of cappuccino made with half decaf and half regular coffee so it tastes rich but isn't too caffeinated. They add honey to sweeten it and a dash of 'pouring' cream. Its so tasty I moan with pleasure at every sip.
  
  An elderly italian man once explained to me that to use coffee correctly you start the day with a very milky coffee. As the day goes on you have increasingly pure coffee, the final drink being what he called a 'ristretto', I think -- a highly concentrated, extra-short espresso.
  
  I agree with some of the other posters that one should 'get off' coffee from time to time. You can treat the headaches with aspirin but I find the feeling of vulnerability and lethargy especially challenging.
  
  I think coffee is a wonderful recreational drug and am thankful that it is still legal. There have been times and places in history when it was not.
  
  I don't believe it produces a net increase in productivity but it sure makes endless digression enjoyable.
  
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Ernie Lo

16 years ago

Ah good old modern day life..

You shouldn't smoke, you shouldn't eat fastfood, you shouldn't drink alchol, you shouldn't drink coffee....why dont we just crawl up into a ball and shoot ourselves..that sounds like more fun than what the world is ending up like

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Scott Lundergan

16 years ago

yerba mate, 2 shots espresso and/or wheatgrass rather than a cup of coffee..otherwise it seems people are up and down all day if they drink another cup to stay awake because the cup before them brings them down? When I do drink coffee, Allegro and essencia brands have my vote, but 95% it is just yerba mate, green tea, wheat grass and/or two shots in the morning and I am fine all day.

One thing that helps is staying as far away as possible from refined carbs and sugars, but that is just the tip of the iceberg.

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Darrell Hagan 16 years ago

Coffee is good for you. Look here:

Health Benefits of Coffee - WebMD

The article talks about men but I'm pretty sure that it works with girls too .

I drink lots of coffee, always have. For a time in the early '90s, my coffee drinking was somewhat of a legend locally. I'd go bar hopping with the boys & girls and drink nothing but coffee. Usually had to round up all my drunk friends & haul 'em home. Stacked 'em like sardines in the back of my car. Ahh the good ole days :rolleyes:.....

Nowadays I still drink alot of coffee - about 8-12 cups a day because I like it and the caffeine helps me stay sharp.....

>Edit< I don't seem to be very sharp these days so maybe immune to caffeine now?
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logosi

16 years ago

I have a coffee IV running right now..

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AndrewCavanagh

16 years ago

Originally Posted by XFactor

This may seem off-topic but its not.

Every morning I wake up early and the first thing my body tells me that I
need which will be good for my work - is Coffee.

How many of you say that Caffeine helps your online work?

I ask because no matter how much I love it, I ALWAYS feel worse about
an hour after having my cup of brew.

I then crave it again and will have another cup, only to lose concentration
on my work.

Every night I swear off coffee but in the morning, at the wee hours of dawn,
I give in.

It's time for me to quit.

How about you? Do you work better on the PC with Coffee?

- John

Classic symptoms of addiction.

Coffee has some pretty bad side effects but the worst is that the caffiene reduces insulin sensitivity.

That results in excess insulin production and excess insulin is linked to pretty much every chronic disease including cancer, heart disease, parkinsons, dimentia, the list goes on and on.

Drink water instead.

Since you're addicted you'll probably get withdrawl sypmtoms for the first week (headaches most likely).

You can avoid those by eating well and exercising first thing in the morning.

Kindest regards,
Andrew Cavanagh

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Darrell Hagan

16 years ago

Originally Posted by AndrewCavanagh

Classic symptoms of addiction.

Coffee has some pretty bad side effects but the worst is that the caffiene reduces insulin sensitivity.

That results in excess insulin production and excess insulin is linked to pretty much every chronic disease including cancer, heart disease, parkinsons, dimentia, the list goes on and on.

Drink water instead.

Since you're addicted you'll probably get withdrawl sypmtoms for the first week (headaches most likely).

You can avoid those by eating well and exercising first thing in the morning.

Kindest regards,
Andrew Cavanagh

Interesting. Quite opposite of this article which I referenced in my above post.....

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AndrewCavanagh

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Darrell Hagan

Interesting. Quite opposite of this article which I referenced in my above post.....

Don't count on it.

The effect is most likely caused by excess coffee drinkers eating less.

And since most people eat garbage that's an improvement.

If you want to believe coffee is a health food then be happy with your belief...I don't have a problem with it.

But then I don't have any health problems either and I feel good most of the time.

Most coffee drinkers feel like crap most of the time and they don't know what feeling good is...if they did they wouldn't be drinking coffee.

If you do choose to drink it stop adding sugar or any sweetener.

I should have pointed out earlier one huge key.

Get enough sleep.

You are going to feel sluggish and lack alertness...especially first thing in the morning and mid afternoon if you don't get enough sleep.

And for most people that means between 7 1/2 and 8 1/2 hours of sleep a night.

If you want to know more about sleep read the book Power Sleep.

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Andrew Cavanagh

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XFactor

16 years ago

Originally Posted by AndrewCavanagh

Don't count on it.

The effect is most likely caused by excess coffee drinkers eating less.

And since most people eat garbage that's an improvement.

If you want to believe coffee is a health food then be happy with your belief...I don't have a problem with it.

But then I don't have any health problems either and I feel good most of the time.

Most coffee drinkers feel like crap most of the time and they don't know what feeling good is...if they did they wouldn't be drinking coffee.

If you do choose to drink it stop adding sugar or any sweetener.

I should have pointed out earlier one huge key.

Get enough sleep.

You are going to feel sluggish and lack alertness...especially first thing in the morning and mid afternoon if you don't get enough sleep.

And for most people that means between 7 1/2 and 8 1/2 hours of sleep a night.

If you want to know more about sleep read the book Power Sleep.

Kindest regards,
Andrew Cavanagh

Good, sound advice.

- John

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Kyle L Hannah

16 years ago

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Steven Carl Kelly

16 years ago

Blech. I never, ever drink coffee.

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Andy Money 16 years ago

Yeah that's another good point someone mentioned above: if you drink too much coffee it suppresses your appetite, you won't eat as much and it adds to the overall crap feeling you get from too much caffeine. This is more or less true with any stimulant.

Great alternatives are herbal stimulants, I've had nice success with yohimbine, great for circulation too.
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- JohnMcCabe 16 years ago
  
  I love a cup or two of strong coffee in the morning. It wakes me up, gets things moving, helps with focus.
  
  That said, I do have to watch my intake. If I get engrossed in a project and mindlessly drink enough for the caffeine buzz, I pay for it later. Jitters, trouble sleeping, and so on. After about noon, it's water or maybe iced tea with a meal, water or decaffeinated after dinner.
  
  I used to work with a young guy who constantly ragged on me for my 'caffeine addiction' because I drank a lot of coffee to stay awake through endless meetings - yet he would polish off a six-pack of Mountain Dew by ten o'clock pretty much every morning. I'm guessing he probably buys Red Bull by the case these days...
  
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  Rod Cortez 16 years ago
  
  I used to drink coffee morning, day, and night. It helped me big time with my concentration and productivity. But now I only drink about one cup per week. Caffeine affects everyone differently. My doctor can drink a cup right before he goes to sleep and have no problems. If I did that I'd be up for hours. Everyone has different reactions to caffeine, especially after longterm use. In my case it's irritated an ulcer as well as my acid reflux. Per my doctor, caffeine tends to relax the LES (lower esophageal sphincter) which allows the stomach acid to creep up into your esophagus, thus causing all kinds of digestive issues (in my case a really bad ulcer).
  
  So I've learned to live without drinking coffee every day and you know what? I sleep better. My teeth aren't yellow anymore. And while I'm still having acid reflux issues, it's not nearly as bad as it used to be.
  
  I still LOVE coffee though and I might even sneak in two cups this week. I just can't drink it every day anymore and that's probably a good thing (for my stomach anyway).
  
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  Dean Shainin 16 years ago
  
  For some reason when I've been off Coffee I've had more clarity of though and came of with some inspirations that really paid off.
  
  I find coffee helps for doing repetitive tasks like submitting articles, but not for developing creative projects. Sometimes it feels like I'm going in circles trying to do too much on a project and not focused on one thing at a time when drinking coffee daily.
  
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Darrell Hagan 16 years ago

Originally Posted by faxinator

Blech. I never, ever drink coffee.

OMG, its one of those! Okay boys, lets convert 'em!
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- Steven Carl Kelly 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Darrell Hagan
  
  OMG, its one of those! Okay boys, lets convert 'em!
  
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lennelljones

16 years ago

I monitor my caffeine intake and prefer water instead. I drink coffee occasionally.

However, I notice that if I am not getting enough water, then I feel tired.

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mario2001

Banned 16 years ago

I can drink a coffee and after that go to sleep.

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Dave Ryan

16 years ago

I walk to my local bean shop once a week and get 1/2 pound of 5 different types...

I mix 2 of them and mass grind them for my morning coffee... The other 3 beans are ground directly before use and are for espressos in the afternoon. After a week all leftovers are thrown out and I re-up down at the import store. Seasonally I also modify my blends.

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16 years ago

I need coffee in the morning also, the problem I faced is that the last thing I wanted to do was actually make the coffee in the morning.

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Bosch Benvenuto B30 Espresso Machine - Bosch Espresso Machines from Whole Latte Love

no more getting the coffee beans out, getting the filter out, filling up the water, and then waiting and waiting, you just push one button and coffee comes out (dangerous!). Sure I could get a coffee maker with a timer on it, but I would still have to do all the stuff the night before and invariably forget.

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XFactor

16 years ago

Originally Posted by oortcloud

I need coffee in the morning also, the problem I faced is that the last thing I wanted to do was actually make the coffee in the morning.

So I got this thing and could never go back.
Bosch Benvenuto B30 Espresso Machine - Bosch Espresso Machines from Whole Latte Love

no more getting the coffee beans out, getting the filter out, filling up the water, and then waiting and waiting, you just push one button and coffee comes out (dangerous!). Sure I could get a coffee maker with a timer on it, but I would still have to do all the stuff the night before and invariably forget.

Oh man, that looks awesome.

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Norma Holt

16 years ago

Originally Posted by XFactor

This may seem off-topic but its not.

Every morning I wake up early and the first thing my body tells me that I
need which will be good for my work - is Coffee.

How many of you say that Caffeine helps your online work?

I ask because no matter how much I love it, I ALWAYS feel worse about
an hour after having my cup of brew.

I then crave it again and will have another cup, only to lose concentration
on my work.

Every night I swear off coffee but in the morning, at the wee hours of dawn,
I give in.

It's time for me to quit.

How about you? Do you work better on the PC with Coffee?

- John

Its an interesting topic. Caffeine, like alcohol, is a diuretic which means it extracts moisture from the cells, especially the brain. That leaves you with a 'hang-over' and people think they then need more coffee.

The funny thing is that if you go off it you get withdrawal symptoms that may include headaches, nervousness, and so on.

My recommendation is to cut down on the coffee, only drink it during the day, no more than a couple of cups and substitute it with tea or water, as others have suggested. The body needs fluid to work properly and your brain needs it to keep you alert and help you to think.

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Lloyd Buchinski

16 years ago

Originally Posted by norma

Its an interesting topic. Caffeine, like alcohol, is a diuretic which means it extracts moisture from the cells, especially the brain. That leaves you with a 'hang-over' and people think they then need more coffee.

A diuretic means that you will urinate more than you drink, and
that is not true with coffee, although you hear and read it enough
that it reminds me of my favorite question in conversations for
awhile, "Who told you that?"

It varies by individuals and how long they have been drinking it,
but on average it has about the same "diuretic effect" as water. If
you drink more, you will urinate more.

Here is a link to a report on the U of Connecticut site:
Armstrong's Study Shows Caffeine Does Not Increase Dehydration - July 22, 2002

I am not at all trying to say that coffee is healthy. I don't actually
know and I'm sure there are plenty of negatives, but I have been
interested in it for a long time and have seen a couple of pages
with surprising benefits. This one claims coffee has more fiber than
orange juice. I certainly didn't think of fiber as something that could
go through a coffee filter, but to a nutritionist it is.
Diabetes In Control - More Fiber in Coffee Than Orange Juice?

Heysal's comment was something like "So when I'm having a coffee
and a snickers bar, it's a health food breakfast?" She's a thinker.

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Karen Keyes

16 years ago

Coffee.. now that's a huge issue with me too so I know where you're coming from John. Actually I think I have anxiety problems and the coffee is likely the main culprit. But I'm not as concerned with the caffeine as I am with the sugar I use.

I'm 35 as well (had to think about that for a minute!), and this year I've been experiencing some new issues with things such as alertness, ability to focus, fatigue, anxiety. So lately I've been giving some serious thought to my health and what I need to do to improve it.

Just this week I was in emerg for 7+ hours due to severe chest pains. Not heart related but scary nonetheless. Do I know what caused it? Nope no idea.. still have to pursue it further w/ my regular doc. But it got me looking pretty hard at my lifestyle. I smoke, drink coffee on a regular basis, and I'm not in shape. My daughter is 2 years old. WTF am I doing? It's pretty scary actually, to even consider that I might not be here for my little girl.

Sigh.. I need to hook up with a shrink!
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PS: Good luck with quitting the caffeine John, I'm sure you certainly can do it.

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Headhunting55 16 years ago

I LOVE Coffee! I ADORE it!

But i don't drink it much any more. Very rarely. It's bad for ya. I, too, used to have a couple of cups in the morning, but in a couple of hours, I would feel like crap. Worn out. Lousy. EXCEPT on the days that i did NOT have coffee.

This was very frustrating to me for many years, because I SO enjoyed the taste, and the little "lift" that it gave me for an hour or so.

I would encourage anyone interested to read Dr. Robert O. Young's "The PH Miracle". In it, he explains the concept of the acid/alkaline balance that is present in the body. Too much acid, you get sick and all sorts of diseases. Tony Robbins teaches this principle in his "Living health" program.

Coffee is FULL OF ACID. When I stopped drinking it regulary and began eating "alkaline", My BODY CHANGED, and my LIFE Changed. I lost a ton of weight, and had more energy than i had ever experienced before.

Now, i DO have coffee once in a GREAT while. maybe twice a year. And, like in the old days, I feel like crap afterwards.

So, now i drink tea. And there are some great non-acidic coffee substitutes.

Also, one other thing I do is to take a single NO-DOZ tablet mid morning every day (it's pure caffeine). It gives me the same "lift" that coffee used to, but I do NOT experience the letdown and lousy feeling that i did with coffee. I have ALSO been able to ween myself of of the 4 Effexor capsules I had to take every day for the last ten years due to serious depression.

ALKALIZING my body (including giving up coffee), has changed my life in a HUGE way.

I highly recommend it. A little off-topic, I know, but the way that coffee impacted me made me aware that I was doing something wrong with my eating habits.

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Darrell Hagan

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Karen Newton

Coffee.. now that's a huge issue with me too so I know where you're coming from John. Actually I think I have anxiety problems and the coffee is likely the main culprit. But I'm not as concerned with the caffeine as I am with the sugar I use.

I'm 35 as well (had to think about that for a minute!), and this year I've been experiencing some new issues with things such as alertness, ability to focus, fatigue, anxiety. So lately I've been giving some serious thought to my health and what I need to do to improve it.

Just this week I was in emerg for 7+ hours due to severe chest pains. Not heart related but scary nonetheless. Do I know what caused it? Nope no idea.. still have to pursue it further w/ my regular doc. But it got me looking pretty hard at my lifestyle. I smoke, drink coffee on a regular basis, and I'm not in shape. My daughter is 2 years old. WTF am I doing? It's pretty scary actually, to even consider that I might not be here for my little girl.

Sigh.. I need to hook up with a shrink!
Karen

Karen, Off-Topic side note here - From your above post, it sounds like you are wanting to quit smoking, etc.

Let me offer some words of encouragement. I quit smoking 7 years ago after having smoked for 25 years. I quit cold-turkey. No gum, no patches, nothing. I had tried all of that and also a few of the more popular stop-smoking plans and none of it worked for me.

Okay, end of OT side note

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Karen Keyes

16 years ago

Darrell, yes I do want to quit smoking and want my husband to as well. I'm even embarrassed to say about a year ago he had a heart attack (minor, but still!) and we are STILL smoking.

I know it's terrible but ... grrr every time I type "but" I know an excuse is forthcoming so... scratch that.

I'd love to get any tips about quitting smoking.

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Norma Holt

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Karen Newton

Darrell, yes I do want to quit smoking and want my husband to as well. I'm even embarrassed to say about a year ago he had a heart attack (minor, but still!) and we are STILL smoking.

I know it's terrible but ... grrr every time I type "but" I know an excuse is forthcoming so... scratch that.

I'd love to get any tips about quitting smoking.

Karen, I quit when my eldest child (then 4) told me he did not like the smell of it. Only after I quite did I realize how bad people who smoke stink. I liken it now to pouring a bag of manure over others and if that was what my children experienced then no wonder my 4 year old had the sense to point it out.

I stopped smoking instantly and never went back. Cold turkey with sheer determination and husband stopped as well in the same way.

You can do it for your child if nothing else, believe me.

Coffee and smoking seems to go together and both are a health hazard.

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Darrell Hagan 16 years ago

Well folks, I hate to sound like a broken record but as I pointed out in earlier posts, what about studies such as these?

1: Health Benefits of Coffee - WebMD

2: ABC News: Study: Drinking Coffee Has Health Benefits

3: Moderate Coffee Drinking Reduces Many Risks, Panel Says

These seem to be credible information sources.....
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Chris Monty

16 years ago

I cut back on the coffee. Now, I'm addicted to Diet Coke.

I do find that caffeine helps me focus. There is a bit of a crash, however.

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Norma Holt 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Monty

I cut back on the coffee. Now, I'm addicted to Diet Coke.

I do find that caffeine helps me focus. There is a bit of a crash, however.

Coke is also caffeine but people don't realize it. The cola bean is similar, from my understanding, to the coffee bean. In that case you are replacing one addiction with another. Sorry! Its the sugar content that disguises the bitterness and that in itself is a fix for many, although diet coke is not using natural sugar but a chemical - ugggh.
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AndrewCavanagh

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Monty

I cut back on the coffee. Now, I'm addicted to Diet Coke.

Dude drink water.

Or you could watch the movie "Sweet poison" and get an idea of how toxic the aspartame in diet coke really is.

Or you could just google "aspartame health problems".

I wouldn't give any of those artificial sweeteners to my worst enemy.

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16 years ago

Also as a prominent health writer for many years who dug to the bottom of many of these so called studies let me give you a couple of warnings:

1. In 3 years as a syndicated health columnist I was familiar with all the major health stories. Not once did I see one of those stories reported accurately on the television news (or ANY television show).

If you're getting your health advice from television you're going to be one sick puppy.

2. All the studies in the world don't change medical facts.

What is a medical fact?

Simple stuff like:

# Your heart pumps and helps circulate your blood around your body.

# You have bones in the toes of your feet.

# Your lungs help your body process oxygen.

# Caffeine reduces insulin sensitivity.

The basis of a medical fact is that no one in the medical world is arguing it any more.

It's accepted as fact and proven beyond any reasonable doubt.

So if you showed me 2 studies suggesting that you don't need a heart to live I'd be skeptical because the medical facts demonstrate that hearts are kind of important for human survival.

In the same way I'm going to be skeptical when someone tells me coffee is good for you because it's a medical fact that caffeine reduces insulin sensitivity that can lead to excess insulin production which is linked to nearly every chronic disease.

I'm not necessarily saying the studies are wrong but medical facts first.

And the medical facts say coffee ain't good for you.

And you need a heart of some kind to survive!

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P.S. AMWA stands for Australasian Medical Writers Association and yes I'm still a member.

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Norma Holt

16 years ago

Originally Posted by AndrewCavanagh

Also as a prominent health writer for many years who dug to the bottom of many of these so called studies let me give you a couple of warnings:

1. In 3 years as a syndicated health columnist I was familiar with all the major health stories. Not once did I see one of those stories reported accurately on the television news (or ANY television show).

If you're getting your health advice from television you're going to be one sick puppy.

2. All the studies in the world don't change medical facts.

What is a medical fact?

Simple stuff like:

# Your heart pumps and helps circulate your blood around your body.

# You have bones in the toes of your feet.

# Your lungs help your body process oxygen.

# Caffeine reduces insulin sensitivity.

The basis of a medical fact is that no one in the medical world is arguing it any more.

It's accepted as fact and proven beyond any reasonable doubt.

So if you showed me 2 studies suggesting that you don't need a heart to live I'd be skeptical because the medical facts demonstrate that hearts are kind of important for human survival.

In the same way I'm going to be skeptical when someone tells me coffee is good for you because it's a medical fact that caffeine reduces insulin sensitivity that can lead to excess insulin production which is linked to nearly every chronic disease.

I'm not necessarily saying the studies are wrong but medical facts first.

And the medical facts say coffee ain't good for you.

And you need a heart of some kind to survive!

Kindest regards,
Andrew Cavanagh (AMWA)

P.S. AMWA stands for Australasian Medical Writers Association and yes I'm still a member.

Nice post Andrew. I'm with you all the way.

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Darrell Hagan

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Josh Anderson

They can be countered by hundreds of studies and opinions going the other way.

Correlation does not imply causation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Being free of addiction is far better than having one.

Tobacco used to be marketed for health too.

If you are free of addictions and avoid addictive substances you will be healthier and wealthier.

That is my own personal experience.

I agree, sort of. I'm not actually addicted to anything, including coffee. Never was addicted to coffee.

Originally Posted by norma

Karen, I quit when my eldest child (then 4) told me he did not like the smell of it. Only after I quite did I realize how bad people who smoke stink. I liken it now to pouring a bag of manure over others and if that was what my children experienced then no wonder my 4 year old had the sense to point it out.

I stopped smoking instantly and never went back. Cold turkey with sheer determination and husband stopped as well in the same way.

You can do it for your child if nothing else, believe me.

Coffee and smoking seems to go together and both are a health hazard.

Karen: I agree with Norma, this is how I quit too. Don't be embarrassed - I quit 100 times before I really quit. Lots of folks go through that. To be honest, the first 60 days or so were very hard for me. After that, it got to be pretty easy to control any cravings, and now I don't get cravings at all. Probably best for you if you and your husband can quit together and be each other's support group.

Norma: my attitude about folks who smoke isn't quite as bad as yours

, but I do prefer not to be exposed to it if possible. Its now been 7 years for me, and I can usually smell it on people who smoke from 8-10 feet away

Originally Posted by AndrewCavanagh

Also as a prominent health writer for many years who dug to the bottom of many of these so called studies let me give you a couple of warnings:

1. In 3 years as a syndicated health columnist I was familiar with all the major health stories. Not once did I see one of those stories reported accurately on the television news (or ANY television show).

If you're getting your health advice from television you're going to be one sick puppy.

2. All the studies in the world don't change medical facts.

What is a medical fact?

Simple stuff like:

# Your heart pumps and helps circulate your blood around your body.

# You have bones in the toes of your feet.

# Your lungs help your body process oxygen.

# Caffeine reduces insulin sensitivity.

The basis of a medical fact is that no one in the medical world is arguing it any more.

It's accepted as fact and proven beyond any reasonable doubt.

So if you showed me 2 studies suggesting that you don't need a heart to live I'd be skeptical because the medical facts demonstrate that hearts are kind of important for human survival.

In the same way I'm going to be skeptical when someone tells me coffee is good for you because it's a medical fact that caffeine reduces insulin sensitivity that can lead to excess insulin production which is linked to nearly every chronic disease.

I'm not necessarily saying the studies are wrong but medical facts first.

And the medical facts say coffee ain't good for you.

And you need a heart of some kind to survive!

Kindest regards,
Andrew Cavanagh (AMWA)

P.S. AMWA stands for Australasian Medical Writers Association and yes I'm still a member.

Well, you are correct. Facts are facts. I drink far less coffee than I used to. 2-4 cups a day on average. I'm sure that at least some of the information in those studies is true. I think the key is moderation.

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16 years ago

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buckapple 16 years ago

Interesting forum.

I've quit everything fun except coffee keeps sneaking back in every once in awhile. I'll go straight for awhile and feel great then wake up one day without much sleep and someone will offer some coffee and boom...back on it for awhile until my body says "what the bleep"?

When I was in teens and twenties nothing bothered me and I would laugh at posts like this..

Things change over the years... I've found now if I listen to my body, it will tell me in subtle ways what is best for me. I think everyone is different and the mindset is also important.

Don't get me wrong, completely straight with nothing in the system is fun too, you have to experience it to find out.

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coffeesonnow

16 years ago

I drink more coffee in the wintertime, and after about, oh, 5 cups or so in a row I can't focus. One or two is just a part of my routine though (and is really nice on a cold day!)

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JustVisiting 16 years ago

Originally Posted by OMC

Just a suggestion.....

Exercise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would drink energy drinks, coffee, anything with caffeine just to keep me up in the morning.

Agreed.
Stretch the legs on a regular basis!

plus...water first thing, and regularly throughout the day - additional benefit is this ensures you HAVE to get up from the computer every now and again

Hot chocolate is a good mild caffeine alternative - it has about the same amount of caffeine as an average cup of decaffeinated coffee.

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Josh Anderson

16 years ago

During my teen and early adult years I was an avid caffeine user.

However I found that it had undesirable effects on my body like the jitters and the fact that it is an addictive substance...

So I stopped using it.

I have not used caffeine for more than 10 years now. I avoid any product with even a hint of it.

The result is that I have more energy than I ever did as an addict.

I know people who get headaches if they do not have a coke to get the caffeine fix.

I had one friend who would not even get out of bed until he had drank two pots of coffee.

I cringe to think what habitual soda and power drink users are doing to their internal organs.

Plus being free of addictions is quite liberating...

I used to wonder what I would do with my hands if I was ever able to quit smoking and drinking coffee...

Once I was freed of my addictions my creativity and a level of success was unleashed in my life that I never imagined was possible.

This is my own experience as a recovered addict.

Life is better without addictions.

You will find your self wealthier and healthier.

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wealthy

16 years ago

Go Starbucks, I use their locations as my office a lot. coffee, internet and food how can you go wrong.
I love coffee, doesn't matter when.

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LeannaLuck

16 years ago

My day never starts until I have had at least one cup of coffee. Actually, I normally have two full pots before the day ends. I guess you could say that I am an addict. LOL

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PassiveCashGal

16 years ago

I don't drink coffee and the only tea that I like (Mint) is caffeine free. I get my energy from all natural energy pills and drinks..I need all the energy that I can get with a hubby, 3 kiddos and several businesses.

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Devin T

16 years ago

Green Tea.. there's something refreshing about it that keeps me awake and going throughout the day. I always have to sit down with a bottle, without it I feel lost! lol

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Josh Anderson

16 years ago

Well folks, I hate to sound like a broken record but as I pointed out in earlier posts, what about studies such as these?

1: Health Benefits of Coffee - WebMD

2: ABC News: Study: Drinking Coffee Has Health Benefits

3: Moderate Coffee Drinking Reduces Many Risks, Panel Says

These seem to be credible information sources.....

They can be countered by hundreds of studies and opinions going the other way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correla...mply_causation

Being free of addiction is far better than having one.

Tobacco used to be marketed for health too.

If you are free of addictions and avoid addictive substances you will be healthier and wealthier.

That is my own personal experience.

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Neil S

16 years ago

Actually the health industry has been pretty vigorous of late in it's praise of the benefits of coffee. But of course only in moderation.

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brockbraddock

16 years ago

Drink the damn coffee OR don't drink the damn coffee. I guarantee it's not going to be a major factor in your success or failure either way.

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Originally Posted by brockbraddock

Drink the damn coffee OR don't drink the damn coffee. I guarantee it's not going to be a major factor in your success or failure either way.

Brock

First of all, you know nothing my health, nor the way my nervous system responds
to different stimuli and chemicals.

Second, could you have come up with a more asinine comment?

Third, 1986 called - They want their avatar back.

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  Originally Posted by XFactor
  
  First of all, you know nothing my health, nor the way my nervous system responds to different stimuli and chemicals.
  
  LMAO!
  And don't really want to know either!
  
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  Originally Posted by XFactor
  
  Third, 1986 called - They want their avatar back.
  
  - John
  
  Hey, it gets cold here in NC in the winter! We can't all live in sunny California!
  
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Edson Buchanan

16 years ago

When I know I'm going to be working late, I stop at my local coffee shop and buy " The Annihilator"....The name says it all.

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Ross Kenny

16 years ago

Water is the way to stay alert.

If you are feeling drained it is normally to do with your diet. Make sure your eating small meals regulary every few hours to keep your blood sugar levels stable.

Stick with low GI food and your insulin levels won't spike causing a boost then a low..

Caffeine is good in some cases but not all day and don't take sugar with it. (Stick to sweetners) It's the sugar that's doing the worse.

When you get up in the morning drink some water and eat something good within the first half hour of waking. Also do some gentle exercise to raise your heart rate and drink some more water.

You will feel a lot better during the day if you do this.

Your brain needs water to concentrate and all the cells in your body require water to operate correctly.

Caffeine is a stimulant and increases mental alertness etc but your body wasn't designed to run this way so don't drink all day.

Just remember if you eat something healthy when you wake and cut down on your sugar you will feel 50 times better...

Eat some fruit as well

I use Caffeine when I go to the gym to keep me focused but don't take sugar. I also drink loads and loads of water.

Food for thought....

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16 years ago

working in a convenience store, i am pretty addicted to
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it's so BAD for me...but i can't help it...i drink like 1 to 2 energy
drinks and they have LOTS of caffeine...

got to quit though...

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Ross Kenny

16 years ago

Originally Posted by BJ Min

working in a convenience store, i am pretty addicted to
energy drinks...

it's so BAD for me...but i can't help it...i drink like 1 to 2 energy
drinks and they have LOTS of caffeine...

got to quit though...

I enjoy a good energy drink but I only drink the sugar free ones.

Try them.. Much better for you..

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Tim Franklin

16 years ago

some very interesting information, some for, some against,

Here is something far more interesting, go into any hospital and you will find coffee, during a recent appointment, I noted that in most waiting areas there was complementary coffee available.

I know that some say coffee is bad for you, but I have to say that if it is that bad why would hospitals offer coffee in such abundance if it were so bad for you.

The reality is that there are two types, coffee drinkers and non coffee drinkers, either you like it or you dont.

Personally coffee in the morning and perhaps in the evening is something I enjoy, I am sure if it were bad for me, any number of doctors would have said something about it by now.

But hey who knows, a few years ago, a report came out about over cooked meat could cause cancer, later that was redacted, then came the egg problem, which was later proved as just plain bad information.

I take it all with a grain of salt, (not my coffee) just everything else.

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Charles E. White

16 years ago

I never drank coffee at all until I was past 30 years old, I couldn't even stand the taste of it, now I drink a pot a day. Under 30, I drank so much Pepsi that you could float a battleship, so I was getting my fix then too without even thinking about it.

The first thing I do every morning is fix a pot of coffee and smoke a cigarette, both which is a bad habit. I drink coffee most of the day then wonder why I don't sleep at night. LOL

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Colin Klinkert

16 years ago

I drink a lot of coffee but that is because Im on a diet and it helps as a replacement to my normal, constant snacking.

I like coffee and drink 4-5 cups a day, but sometimes i will go 2 or 3 weeks without it (although not since living in france, here its all about the coffee)

Haven't measured how it affects my work, I feel about the same on and off it

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Rod Cortez 16 years ago

Anyone here eat chocolate covered coffee beans?
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jelanik

15 years ago

Caffeine is not good for your health. It has negative affects on your nervous system. That being said, I feel awesome when I take pure caffeine. What i mean by that is not in coffee with sugar or cream or anything. Just a simple caffeine pill. I find that works better than a cup of coffee. Much better!

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15 years ago

coffee makes me to anxious to work on the computer

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Zachary R. Skinner

15 years ago

John,

I'm the EXACT opposite.

I usually wake up in a haze around 8:30 am. It's not until I finish my cup of coffee that I actually feel good and ready to start the day.

I wouldn't say I'm addicted to coffee because I can easily go without it. But, I really, really like to have it in the morning. It's somehow comforting and relaxing.

The only complaint I have against coffee is what it does to my bladder. A single cup of coffee will easily send me to the bathroom 4 or even 5 times after I drink it.

My one complaint aside, I am a huge coffee lover!

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