Oh, by the way... anyone want to learn how to make money?

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Just a little break from the pantomime that appears to be playing out in some threads on the front page.

Anyone want to make some money?

A very smart person reminded me a couple of days ago that the way to make money is to:

Stop thinking and get to [****ing] work!

(profanity added for extra emphasis, imagine you, as your own boss, telling yourself that.)

Yes, it's that simple.

You probably know more about how to make money than you give yourself credit for. Chances are, you're just looking for "the best way" and thinking too much, in effect, talking yourself out of taking action.

The best way that you can make (more) money is by doing something RIGHT NOW that will put money in your pocket.

Here's a few things you could probably do right now:

(1) Put up a short video review of a product you're promoting
(2) Mail your list
(3) Write an article
(4) Write a blog post
(5) Write the first few pages of a new ebook
(6) Rewrite 5 pages of a PLR ebook that's gathering dust on your hard drive.

... the list goes on.

There are an unlimited number of things that you can do right now, that will take you less than an hour, in order to increase your chances of making money online.

Waiting for the "best way" is not one of them.

Now, get to it.




Enjoy.
Karl.
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  • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
    But, that instant gratification mindset should be thrown out the window...

    The reality is, yes, you need to pick a course and stick with it....but, you also have to anticipate alot of hard work....be prepared for it...it's inevitable...
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Godwin
    Karl,

    I really couldn't agree more. I think all of us (myself certainly included) can be guilty of wasting time procrastinating while there is an abundance of money to be made out there through marketing efforts which are free, relatively simple and available freely for anyone to utilise.

    For your personal marketing, what methods do you find the most effective?

    What do you think is the key to breaking out of "analysis paralysis" and into the realm of hyperactivity and success?
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    • Profile picture of the author KarlWarren
      Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

      But, that instant gratification mindset should be thrown out the window...

      The reality is, yes, you need to pick a course and stick with it....but, you also have to anticipate alot of hard work....be prepared for it...it's inevitable...
      The reality is...

      Every step you take towards your goal is one step closer.
      Every step you don't take towards your goal is one step further away.

      It's not about "a lot of hard work" it's more a case of "a lot of little bits of easy work"

      The more you get used to doing something, anything, on route to your goals, the more you become accustomed to it - you'll become more proficient at achieving what you set out to do, and making money will become even easier.

      Originally Posted by Nick Godwin View Post

      Karl,

      I really couldn't agree more. I think all of us (myself certainly included) can be guilty of wasting time procrastinating while there is an abundance of money to be made out there through marketing efforts which are free, relatively simple and available freely for anyone to utilise.

      For your personal marketing, what methods do you find the most effective?

      What do you think is the key to breaking out of "analysis paralysis" and into the realm of hyperactivity and success?
      For my line of work (graphics), all I have to do is ask for the business.

      I'll email my list and tell them that I've got a slot or two free at a discount.

      The key to "hyperactivity" and therefore "success" is to firstly become active. Once you're used to being active, do more (it's easier to speed up a moving object than it is to stop it)
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      • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
        Originally Posted by KarlWarren View Post

        The reality is...

        Every step you take towards your goal is one step closer.
        Every step you don't take towards your goal is one step further away.

        It's not about "a lot of hard work" it's more a case of "a lot of little bits of easy work"


        The more you get used to doing something, anything, on route to your goals, the more you become accustomed to it - you'll become more proficient at achieving what you set out to do, and making money will become even easier.



        For my line of work (graphics), all I have to do is ask for the business.

        I'll email my list and tell them that I've got a slot or two free at a discount.

        The key to "hyperactivity" and therefore "success" is to firstly become active. Once you're used to being active, do more (it's easier to speed up a moving object than it is to stop it)
        "It's not about "a lot of hard work" it's more a case of "a lot of little bits of easy work"

        I realize what you are saying here....

        It's a matter of perspective, sort of like the "Glass is half-full" vs. the "Glass is half-empty".....

        Yes, the thing that makes work "easy" SHOULD be the fact that you love and enjoy it....but, let's not fall into the trap of believing things are just naturally easy to do (that doesn't do us, or any lurkers who are learning, any justice)....

        Ask many people who post here, and I don't believe "alot of hard work" would be too far from the truth in an industry that is growing increasingly competitive with each day....
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        • Profile picture of the author KarlWarren
          Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

          It's a matter of perspective, sort of like the "Glass is half-full" vs. the "Glass is half-empty".....
          Couldn't agree more...

          I'm blessed with a mindset, and therefore a positivity, which allows me to see things in that way. But, that mindset is a result of actions I've taken, common sense, and knowledge I've chosen to gather.

          The fact is, "hard work" is very daunting to most. But, in my experience, everything can be broken down into smaller chunks.

          The best way to eat an elephant, and all that.

          I think it was Randy Pausch who told the story of his young son, who said he couldn't clean his room, as it was too much hard work.

          So, Randy asked him: Can you make your bed?

          Yes (and he went off and did it)

          Randy asked him: Can you pick up your clothes?

          Yes (and he went off and did it)

          Finally: Can you pick up your toys?

          You get the idea.
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          • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
            Originally Posted by KarlWarren View Post

            Couldn't agree more...

            I'm blessed with a mindset, and therefore a positivity, which allows me to see things in that way. But, that mindset is a result of actions I've taken, common sense, and knowledge I've chosen to gather.

            The fact is, "hard work" is very daunting to most. But, in my experience, everything can be broken down into smaller chunks.

            The best way to eat an elephant, and all that.

            I think it was Randy Pausch who told the story of his young son, who said he couldn't clean his room, as it was too much hard work.

            So, Randy asked him: Can you make your bed?

            Yes (and he went off and did it)

            Randy asked him: Can you pick up your clothes?

            Yes (and he went off and did it)

            Finally: Can you pick up your toys?

            You get the idea.
            When leading/managing people, I would prefer this approach/analogy....

            People can get on overload very quickly, so I definitely think it would be best to do it this way, rather than say "Can you make your bed, pick up your clothes, and pick up your toys?".....People get lost in the 'words' and the perceived complexity of tasks, so sometimes they don't do things at all, or they do them to a subpar standard....

            I can see what you are saying though....

            Even in my own projects, I do break things off into smaller bite-sized chunks....but, that goes back to the importance of REALLY planning your time and resources....

            "Hard" could be more so in the sense that sometimes it just takes months of sweat equity invested in order to see a viable/profitable result. A project can be broken down into those easier bit sized chunks, but sometimes it just takes time to accomplish....

            That's where passion, patience, and determination come in to play....people REALLY learn that they love something when they can do it in the early stages when it may not be producing a huge monetary benefit....those who make out on top can carry this mentality onward no matter how successful they become...
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    Thank you for injecting some sanity into this place.
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  • Profile picture of the author badboy_Nick
    I agree!

    The biggest reason why most people dont make it or havent made it yet is because they just dont want it bad enough and need to do more ... if you know what I mean

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    • Profile picture of the author KarlWarren
      Originally Posted by badboy_Nick View Post

      I agree!

      The biggest reason why most people dont make it or havent made it yet is because they just dont want it bad enough and need to do more ... if you know what I mean

      Nick
      Indeed.

      The biggest reason most people don't make it is because they think that...

      Reading blogs, checking emails, reading and replying to forum posts, watching youtube videos, reading ebooks etc, basically, sitting in front of a computer screen... is productive.

      BIG TIP:

      Switch off, get a pen and paper and go sit for 2 hours at your dining room table - and WRITE the outline for your next product.

      I bet you'll get more done in those 2 hours than most people do in a week.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shannon Spoon
    Good ideas Karl. Could i also throw in turn off your phones and turn off your TV. Work in a room with no distractions.
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    So easy to get caught up doing unproductive things. I find myself doing it all the time. I find the best way to get things done is to set a timer for a period of time and commit to the task your working on. Otherwise it's email telephone, skype...Distractions are endless and so are all the new shiny objects thrown at us each day.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
    Karl, I tried to pick up my toy and she told me to put her down.

    Ken
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    • Profile picture of the author KarlWarren
      Originally Posted by Ken Leatherman View Post

      Karl, I tried to pick up my toy and she told me to put her down.

      Ken
      Wow, I've been looking for those Real Dolls on ebay, and each time I bid on one, some dude called KLeatherman keeps outbidding me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gee S
    Originally Posted by KarlWarren View Post

    Just a little break from the pantomime that appears to be playing out in some threads on the front page.

    Karl.

    Thank you!

    Ok now back to work people!
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    Some very goods thoughts here.
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  • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
    Originally Posted by KarlWarren View Post

    The best way that you can make (more) money is by doing something RIGHT NOW that will put money in your pocket.
    Many people say work hard, and really this is not the answer, a coal worker or any general laborer can work hard all of their life but not end up with a nickel, this is not generalize any profession but to highlight hard work alone will not make you rich.

    In addition to that I found in my case when first starting on line i wanted to and did work hard, hour upon hour, but I needed to soon wise up that no matter how hard i was working nor even if i put in more hours again or even doubled them until i worked myself to a withering mess i was not going to make money.

    So it may be better if people adopt smart work over hard work, and by that slowly test out everything your doing, then instead of going about a daily ritual where like sheep the same ol same ol is bleated out each day it is very important to evaluate what works, why it works and if so increase efforts in those areas while reducing other activities that are not showing return and in addition add some new mix or methods to your daily routine, and never give up regardless of how hard it may seem.

    Over time you will then start to see some results, but working just hard everyday is not the best plan unless your lucky or well versed in the ways of the cyberlands.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

      Many people say work hard, and really this is not the answer, a coal worker or any general laborer can work hard all of their life but not end up with a nickel, this is not generalize any profession but to highlight hard work alone will not make you rich.

      In addition to that I found in my case when first starting on line i wanted to and did work hard, hour upon hour, but I needed to soon wise up that no matter how hard i was working nor even if i put in more hours again or even doubled them until i worked myself to a withering mess i was not going to make money.

      So it may be better if people adopt smart work over hard work, and by that slowly test out everything your doing, then instead of going about a daily ritual where like sheep the same ol same ol is bleated out each day it is very important to evaluate what works, why it works and if so increase efforts in those areas while reducing other activities that are not showing return and in addition add some new mix or methods to your daily routine, and never give up regardless of how hard it may seem.

      Over time you will then start to see some results, but working just hard everyday is not the best plan unless your lucky or well versed in the ways of the cyberlands.

      I have to agree. When I first started, I worked very hard posting FFA
      links and all this other crap that didn't do anything for me. I worked 14
      hours a day for 5 months and made $28.

      Working hard did NOTHING for me UNTIL I learned to work smart.

      That came from a lot of trial and error and some education from a couple
      of ebooks.

      No, sadly, working hard without the proper kind of work behind it is only
      going to leave you frustrated and broke.
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

      Many people say work hard, and really this is not the answer, a coal worker or any general laborer can work hard all of their life but not end up with a nickel, this is not generalize any profession but to highlight hard work alone will not make you rich.

      In addition to that I found in my case when first starting on line i wanted to and did work hard, hour upon hour, but I needed to soon wise up that no matter how hard i was working nor even if i put in more hours again or even doubled them until i worked myself to a withering mess i was not going to make money.

      So it may be better if people adopt smart work over hard work, and by that slowly test out everything your doing, then instead of going about a daily ritual where like sheep the same ol same ol is bleated out each day it is very important to evaluate what works, why it works and if so increase efforts in those areas while reducing other activities that are not showing return and in addition add some new mix or methods to your daily routine, and never give up regardless of how hard it may seem.

      Over time you will then start to see some results, but working just hard everyday is not the best plan unless your lucky or well versed in the ways of the cyberlands.
      VERY very good point! Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author KarlWarren
    I'm confused...

    it appears that some people are equating: DO SOME WORK
    with: DO SOME HARD WORK

    I'm saying: DO SOME WORK
    Instead of: DO NO WORK

    If you do nothing, you will always be where you are now. If you do something, you won't.

    You can't analyse results until you perform the actions required to get those results. Analysing BEFORE you take those actions is just hypothesising.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by KarlWarren View Post

      I'm confused...

      it appears that some people are equating: DO SOME WORK
      with: DO SOME HARD WORK

      I'm saying: DO SOME WORK
      Instead of: DO NO WORK

      If you do nothing, you will always be where you are now. If you do something, you won't.

      You can't analyse results until you perform the actions required to get those results. Analysing BEFORE you take those actions is just hypothesising.

      Which is why I tell people that instead of busting your head open trying
      to figure this crap out, which could take months, get yourself a mentor
      and have them lay out a plan for you so that at the very least, you're
      on the right track.

      THEN, work hard at it and you'll see results.

      I've done it the other way and it wasn't fun. If I had it to do over again,
      I would have taken 2K or 4K or whatever it would have cost me, hired
      somebody like Willie Crawford to train me and save myself the hell that
      I went through for 5 months.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
    Good gosh almighty people. Read what Karl said and stop over thinking it.

    Stop thinking and get to [****ing] work!
    (profanity added for extra emphasis, imagine you, as your own boss, telling yourself that.)

    Yes, it's that simple.

    You probably know more about how to make money than you give yourself credit for. Chances are, you're just looking for "the best way" and thinking too much, in effect, talking yourself out of taking action.

    The best way that you can make (more) money is by doing something RIGHT NOW that will put money in your pocket.
    Just do something for your business now. I was in on the conversation he had the other night with that smart person and he is right. Work now.

    Ken
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    • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
      Originally Posted by Ken Leatherman View Post

      Good gosh almighty people. Read what Karl said and stop over thinking it.
      LOL -- bingo!

      I was reading this thread and I was thinking, thinking, thinking. I had ideas about which posts I was going to reply to. And then I got to Ken's post.

      Thanks Karl and Ken.

      Cheers,
      Becky
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

        LOL -- bingo!

        I was reading this thread and I was thinking, thinking, thinking. I had ideas about which posts I was going to reply to. And then I got to Ken's post.

        Thanks Karl and Ken.

        Cheers,
        Becky
        Becky, I understand what you, Karl and Ken are saying. I'm not disagreeing
        with the general statement that nothing gets done if you don't just sit down
        and do it.

        But I've been on the "beat my brains against a stone wall trying to figure
        it out on my own" side and it's not fun. Some people simply don't have
        the smarts to figure things out on their own and need help. I was one of
        them. Had I not run into 2 people who helped me and a couple of ebooks
        that at least gave me a road map, I would have still been posting FFA
        ads to MyMegaSubmitter, Adblaster and all the other crappy submitters
        out there and would have NEVER gotten anywhere.

        You can push against a stone wall with your bare hands all you want.

        That wall is still never going to budge until you get a bulldozer out and
        knock it down.

        In the world of IM, that bulldozer is knowledge.
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        • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
          Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

          Becky, I understand what you, Karl and Ken are saying. I'm not disagreeing
          with the general statement that nothing gets done if you don't just sit down
          and do it.

          ...

          You can push against a stone wall with your bare hands all you want.

          That wall is still never going to budge until you get a bulldozer out and
          knock it down.

          In the world of IM, that bulldozer is knowledge.
          Hi Steven,

          And you're correct too.

          I guess the point is that folks need to find a balance that moves them forward. Just taking action without knowledge doesn't work. Just gaining knowledge without taking action doesn't work. So folks need to learn what the SMART action is, and take it.

          So yes, I agree with you too.

          Cheers,
          Becky
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    In addition to that I found in my case when first starting on line i wanted to and did work hard, hour upon hour, but I needed to soon wise up that no matter how hard i was working nor even if i put in more hours again or even doubled them until i worked myself to a withering mess i was not going to make money.
    It was Albert Einstein that said:

    Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
    The fact is, you realised what you were doing wasn't productive - and, you changed what you were doing - but, had you not taken the first steps and done something, and worked at it, you'd still be at square one.

    Common sense prevails when it comes to making money...

    If what you're doing doesn't make you money, try doing things slightly different, don't necessarily do something altogether different.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin AKA Hubcap
      Sometimes people study, go to forums, read ebooks, etc because they want to find that golden nugget of information that will launch their business into the stratosphere.

      But what they fail to realize is more often than not that knowledge comes from doing. Are there little gems that you can get from others? Sure, but you need to know how they fit, if at all, into the way your business operates.

      Sometimes people try to over complicate things. Internet marketing surely can't be this simple. It feels good being in the "know". Having a "strong grasp" of many complex internet marketing strategies but what isn't said is those complex strategies usually don't work and if they do only in very narrow circumstances. Keep it simple and soon you'll be able to realize what will work for you and what won't.

      Just my .02
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      • Profile picture of the author KarlWarren
        Originally Posted by Kevin AKA Hubcap View Post

        But what they fail to realize is more often than not that knowledge comes from doing. Are there little gems that you can get from others? Sure, but you need to know how they fit, if at all, into the way your business operates.

        Sometimes people try to over complicate things. Internet marketing surely can't be this simple. It feels good being in the "know". Having a "strong grasp" of many complex internet marketing strategies but what isn't said is those complex strategies usually don't work and if they do only in very narrow circumstances.
        Excellent reply...

        You just reminded me of an analogy...

        When you learn to drive, you don't take a course in mechanics. You learn how to work the pedals, clutch, gears, learn the rules of the road.

        You then practice, in the context of what you've learned.

        What you don't do, is jump in the car and drive at 70mph on the motorway straight away. You learn by doing the basics first, and then building upon them.

        The same is true in business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Karl, you forgot to mention "drink coffee"....how else do you think I can crank out a gizzillion words of content and sales copy in such a short time frame?

    RoD

    p.s. In all seriousness, coffee has nothing to do with, Dragon Naturally Speaking is my not-so-secret content-generating weapon!
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    Thanks for the info.
    I see this question up here frequently along with the same answers. Well, I found an article I thought I'd share which gives some good info about how much you'd have to write if you wanted to make money by blogging alone (not counting advertising, etc.)

    I found it interesting. It's a lot of writing to make a good living and you have to be able to sell your posts.

    How many people try to sell their posts? How many think it's feasible to make a living this way? How many think they could do it?

    Here's the link to the article with the info from Blog Herald:
    tinyurl.com/5wfed3
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  • Profile picture of the author KarlWarren
    Here's another way to think about it...

    What have I done today which will make me money?

    You might want to print that out and stick it on your bathroom/bedroom mirror.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lisa Gergets
      Originally Posted by KarlWarren View Post

      Here's another way to think about it...

      What have I done today which will make me money?

      You might want to print that out and stick it on your bathroom/bedroom mirror.
      Or, "Is what I am doing right this minute going to help me make money, or am I avoiding doing the important stuff?" And maybe more importantly..."WHY do I avoid doing the important stuff?"
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
      Originally Posted by KarlWarren View Post

      Here's another way to think about it...

      What have I done today which will make me money?


      You might want to print that out and stick it on your bathroom/bedroom mirror.
      (Or on a sticky note attached to your monitor)

      Then, after you're done with that question you can always ask yourself...

      What else can I do to make money?
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    • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
      Originally Posted by KarlWarren View Post

      Here's another way to think about it...

      What have I done today which will make me money?

      You might want to print that out and stick it on your bathroom/bedroom mirror.
      another one:


      I have done so much today
      but where is the &*/!%$* money?

      Because you need a plan and do the right things --> EFFECTIVENESS! Not waste time doing things where its questionable/uncertain there is a ROI.

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    • Profile picture of the author James Sol Radina
      Originally Posted by KarlWarren View Post

      Here's another way to think about it...

      What have I done today which will make me money?

      You might want to print that out and stick it on your bathroom/bedroom mirror.

      The one I have on my computer is:

      IS THIS THE BEST USE OF MY TIME?!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author excellence
    Oh yeah, I too quite agree with you Karl.

    Most online marketers are looking for the "best" way or solution to make a
    quick buck, and fail to implement the knowledge they already probably have!

    Slow and steady wins the race.. So start acting now, and stop waiting and thinking for so long!

    Best success!
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  • Profile picture of the author kdevarney
    I have been guilty of buying products working half way through, getting board and moving on to the next one never really getting anyhting done.. I am now finally seeing some results with sticking with one thing and working my a** off
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  • Profile picture of the author actionplanbiz
    i always love a check list of powerful actions.

    how many of the listed actions should be executed in a marketers average day?
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  • Profile picture of the author Donald Truehart
    Now thanks to you I have to stop what I was doing and get back to work.

    Thanks alot...Karl
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  • Profile picture of the author RodriguezC
    Really good information. excellent ideas for a good online business
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  • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
    If you REALLY want to make money online (or anywhere), you can't be timid by any means....doing IM usually means networking and interacting....refine and develop your social skills....be patient and courteous and professional to others, and more often times than not, others will return the same to you...
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  • Profile picture of the author abelacts
    Simple and straight to the point. Really, it is as simple as that.

    Thanks for bringing us back to the reality - away from land of forums and social networks ;-)
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    • Profile picture of the author masterdj
      Sometimes we just need to hear the truth...

      Heck that even motivated me to keep at it ion my business!

      Great encouragment and completly true forever.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Manetzke
    I probably should read this post a few times a day, I get off task and distracted not only by this forum but plenty of other stuff as well. I try to write down goals for the day and make sure I get them done before I do anything else.

    Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author KarlWarren
    Originally Posted by clicknow4cash View Post

    Someone asked if "This is a Good use of My time?" and after looking through this string I would have to say no.

    I read this string thinking it sounded like a plea for help and after reading the string I have come to the conclusion that I was right.
    Really? Where?

    I'd have thought that the first thing you did when you came to this thread was look at the number of view, and then come to the conclusion that it would be a good one to spam.

    So I welcome those interested to visit my personal site for more information and I expect to receive some "Thank You's" for this post.
    Thanks... for the laugh, but, your post has been reported as spam
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  • Profile picture of the author thenextcameron
    Karl, you have very good analogy! Thanks!
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