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Its very likely I'm just being paranoid. But even paranoids have enemies.

I just checked the recent subscribers to my autoresponder list. One email stood out - it was from "person's name" at dhs.gov in other words, from the Department of Homeland Security.

On one hand, my gut reaction is to unsubscribe them. Then again, they might sincerely need my product.

"Become friends with a snake - learn the limits of friendship" ~Sufi proverb

I can not, for the life of me, think why dhs would be interested in me or be checking me out, or if they were, why an agent would leave such a large muddy footprint.

What's your feeling?
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  • Profile picture of the author Riz
    1) Unless you are doing something illegal you have nothing to worry about.

    2) Perhaps it's just an employee interested in your product - is it the Make Money online niche? Maybe they are just fed up with their job

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    • Profile picture of the author ozduc
      Originally Posted by Riz View Post

      Maybe they are just fed up with their job

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      Ha Ha....."FED" up with their job!
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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    What have you got to hide? If you are worried that what you are doing is subject to Homeland Security concerns, then you should more than likely stop doing it. If it isn't, then why would you care?
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  • Profile picture of the author H3x
    If you are doing something illegal then yes i would be paranoid, if not then you have nothing to worry about.
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  • My philosophy about subscribers is simple: If they stress me in any way, I unsubscribe them. Why fret over one subscriber? If anyone from a .gov address might bother you, block all .gov addresses. Why fret?
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  • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
    I agree with others have said -- relax. Probably just an employee who's using his/her work email for non-work stuff.

    If you're not doing anything illegal, don't worry.

    And if you ARE doing something illegal, unsubbing someone with a government address does absolutely nothing to protect you (because agents who are doing investigations probably aren't "advertising" that they're investigating).

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  • Profile picture of the author agc
    I would simply send him an email saying:

    I cannot use a government email for anything that is not official government business. Please subscribe using your personal email address.

    Then delete the subscription.

    "That was easy"
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Bainbridge
    "It's not paranoia when they really are following you" - some movie quote
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  • Nothing illegal, nothing even marginally questionable, nothing to do with losing weight, magic berries, recurrent billing, or genital optimization.

    Hell of a situation in America these days. I guess I'm part of the growing block of citizens who've moved past "no confidence" in the government to active distrust and suspicion.
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  • Profile picture of the author stma
    Obviously your website is conducting terroristic operations in the U.S. and you are homelands securities radar.

    Your only chance it to run and live in the hills, wear tin foil hats, and live on worms and the odd berry you find.

    Probably just a governmet 'worker' (there are like a zillion of em right) trying to earn a little money on the side and doesn't realize they crap they could get into if caught using their .gov address for business.

    Unsub em for their sake not yours.
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  • Profile picture of the author stma
    Ohh dhs is probably the division of health and services.

    Social workers, health officials, etc....
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  • Profile picture of the author zaarenoc
    What is your product that triggers your autoresponder?

    Doug
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    My gut feeling ... ditch em. Seriously. With all the new regulations who needs to worry about it for one subscriber.
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  • Profile picture of the author storesecured
    Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they are not after you! Many of the posters suggested that if you aren't doing anything illegal then don't worry. In this country, even a mere suggestion of impropriety is grounds for KGB, oh, excuse me, DHS to check you out!

    In this case it is probably nothing but I don't blame you for being suspicious!! Freedom isn't what it used to be!
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    Glad i live in the UK
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    • Profile picture of the author kaysantiago
      Maybe they are actually interested in your product, if they have wicked intentions in mind by all means you can ignore them and unsubscribe.
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    • Profile picture of the author Len Bailey
      Originally Posted by H3x View Post

      Glad i live in the UK
      Because we all know the UK abolished Big Brother years ago, right.
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      Originally Posted by H3x View Post

      Glad i live in the UK
      Yeah... they just have surveillance cameras. You can do that, when your country's small enough.
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  • Profile picture of the author zaarenoc
    Did you fire them off an email just to verify?

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  • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
    Originally Posted by Infinite Shades of Grey View Post

    Its very likely I'm just being paranoid. But even paranoids have enemies.

    I just checked the recent subscribers to my autoresponder list. One email stood out - it was from "person's name" at dhs.gov in other words, from the Department of Homeland Security.

    On one hand, my gut reaction is to unsubscribe them. Then again, they might sincerely need my product.

    "Become friends with a snake - learn the limits of friendship" ~Sufi proverb

    I can not, for the life of me, think why dhs would be interested in me or be checking me out, or if they were, why an agent would leave such a large muddy footprint.

    What's your feeling?
    If DHS wanted to watch you, they definitely wouldn't use a dhs.gov email address.

    One of two things is going on here:

    1. Some anti gov type trying to mess with a dhs employee by joe jobbing them onto your list. If you're not using confirmed opt in, that happens a lot.

    2. Someone at dhs is abusing govt resources by surfing and using email for personal use. Highly illegal for them to do so.

    I would simply contact dhs and report it. It's fraud either way.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by Infinite Shades of Grey View Post

      Its very likely I'm just being paranoid. But even paranoids have enemies.

      I just checked the recent subscribers to my autoresponder list. One email stood out - it was from "person's name" at dhs.gov in other words, from the Department of Homeland Security.

      On one hand, my gut reaction is to unsubscribe them. Then again, they might sincerely need my product.

      "Become friends with a snake - learn the limits of friendship" ~Sufi proverb

      I can not, for the life of me, think why dhs would be interested in me or be checking me out, or if they were, why an agent would leave such a large muddy footprint.

      What's your feeling?
      You are paranoid.

      I know someone who works for DHS and no, they don't have time to be signing up to your autoresponder. lol, sorry.

      I would kindly email them, and suggest to them they sign up with a gmail account.

      They definitely can get fired for using that email address for non work related stuff. They may be too new to really know that.
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      • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
        Originally Posted by Matt M View Post

        No it isn't illegal for state government employees to use the Internet to research and contact NON government organizations.

        My wife is a manager for the State of California Department of Health and Human Resources dhs.gov.

        She has worked there for more than twenty years.

        While working on projects for her job, she is allowed to contact organizations and businesses if it is work related.

        The OP never stated the site which had the opt-in. It could be a site that has PDF's with local county statistics for Human Resources. Or any number of other things.

        There are a number of reasons why a government worker would use the work computer to do work. (go figure)

        You guys have been listening to too much Art Bell.
        Reread what I wrote. What you're talking about is contacting private individuals in the performance of your job. You wouldn't be surfing a squeeze page, and subscribing to any old email list to do that.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    First off,

    gvt employees are amongst those with the HIGHEST rate of "private surfing" on the job, so why shouldnt a gvt employee visit your site and sign up?

    Also..i dont know what your site is about...but what do you think could happen? Maybe you simply watched too much x-files back in the day.

    If you didnt do anything "bad"...why worry?

    (And by the way in our world of warcraft guild is someone from the IRS...so what?
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  • Profile picture of the author tjs1954
    I worked for the Coast Guard until last year and my work e-mail was dhs.gov because now the Coast Guard is under that department, so if I ordered something by e-mail at work it showed like yours. I still have friends that work there and their e-mails are dhs.gov, I wouldn't worry about it too much if I were you. Of course we weren't supposed to do that stuff on government computers but everybody does.
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  • Profile picture of the author kdevarney
    Alot of people use the computers at work to surf stuff like that. I would not worry about it
    I'm doing it right now
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    • Profile picture of the author DependableTrader
      Well he forgot to tell us that the NICHE he is promoting is the home bomb making niche. Ha Ha just kidding folks.

      In reality, if they were monitoring you they wouldnt use a gov address. ALSO, ALL internet traffic from the top 20 service providers is being recorded, EVERYTHING, by the gov. They are not allowed to inspect it individually unless they have a warrant. However, the supercompuers search for KEYWORDS . You can INNOCENTLY have several bad keywords in your product, or email and the computer may flag it. For instance, KILL your competition with this marketing BOMB. If you have enough keyword density in there, it can get flagged.

      I hope I didnt make anyone too paranoid LOL
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  • Yes, you are being set up. We have been watching you and your operation for years. That's why we subscribed to your list using a .gov address -- to make it totally obvious that we're on to you.

    ... uh, prolly not.
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    • Profile picture of the author Seattle Mike
      Your squeeze page is so good they couldn't wait to join. They had to get it now.

      Or:

      Someone used a made up email address to get the freebie.

      Good investigators do not bust their own cover, they know how to use gmail and proxys too
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  • It IS a double opt in (through Mail Chimp).

    I'm going to dash off an email requesting they opt in using their private email. Thanks for the suggestion.

    **And Art Bell retired many years ago... he passed the torch to George Norie
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  • Profile picture of the author Underground SEO
    I really wouldn't worry, in this day and age if they wanted to investigate you they wouldn't sign up to your list with a dhs email! If they were investigating you, they would make sure you wouldn't even know about it!
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  • Profile picture of the author smplylvn
    I agree with the majority of posts here that if you are not doing anything illegal there should be nothing to worry about. Good post though and interesting responses!
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    • Profile picture of the author 52.ct
      If this subscriber is causing this much stress you should just delete them.
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      • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
        Originally Posted by Infinite Shades of Grey View Post

        Nothing illegal, nothing even marginally questionable, nothing to do with losing weight, magic berries, recurrent billing, or genital optimization.
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        I suggest packing it all in. If you're not selling any of these, then nobody's gonna buy what you ARE selling anyway...I mean, what else do people need in life?

        /jk

        Seriously, if it were a "government spy", do you really think they'd be so obvious about it?

        You need to chill out mate! And perhaps stop watching 007 films for a bit...
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  • Profile picture of the author chooch
    It could also be the Dept. of Human Services. Who knows with all the different letters the Gov't uses for their departments. LOL
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