what will you do if clickbank and paydotcom shuts down?

18 years ago

Originally Posted by Teo

clickbank or paydotcom is required if you want to get affiliates promoting your product.
So because these sites are not owned by you, and you have no control over them, what will you do if one day these sites are shut down?

How can you ever get affiliates promoting your product if that was the case?

what makes you think either will be shut down??

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scene4u

18 years ago

It is unlikely that either shut down and if they both do then it is likely that someone else will create another one.

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Steven Wagenheim

18 years ago

Okay, I understand that nothing is guaranteed (look at the problems the
US economy is having) but the chances of Clickbank or PayDotCom shutting
down are slim to none, especially Clickbank since it is so huge.

But...should it happen...one of two things are going to happen.

1. Somebody will step in to take their place.

2. Merchants will simply use an in house affiliate program.

IMHO, these types of questions are silly. Yeah, I know, I'm gonna hear a
whole lotta hell for what I just said, but they are.

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Chris Lockwood

18 years ago

Forget those sites- what will you do if an asteroid hits the earth? That could seriously impact your business.

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Steven Wagenheim 18 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Lockwood

Forget those sites- what will you do if an asteroid hits the earth? That could seriously impact your business.

No problem Chris...We'll just fly to Mars and set up shop there.
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timpears

18 years ago

You start off with a false premise that one or the other is required to set up affiliates. There are lots of sellers that have private affiliate programs and you can get a script fairly easy to run such a program.

Besides that, who in their right mind would shut such a site as Clickbank or Paydotcom down when they are so successful. I have no personal knowledge of the profitability of either site, but with the market share they seem to have I must assume that they are quite successful. I think they are kind of like the Hershey Bar, they don't need to advertise because of their reputation. But I think I am showing my age with that comparison.

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ahuddy

18 years ago

Neither of those sites will shutdown anywhere in the near future if ever. Why would they close their business? They are making money hand over fist and there is not much that has to be done on their part.

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Kim Standerline

18 years ago

Originally Posted by Teo

clickbank or paydotcom is required if you want to get affiliates promoting your product.
So because these sites are not owned by you, and you have no control over them, what will you do if one day these sites are shut down?

How can you ever get affiliates promoting your product if that was the case?

I wouldn't do anything, because I very rarely (if ever) use them

Kim

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Emailrevealer

18 years ago

What makes you think they are required to get affiliates? I have over 150 affiliates in my program. Not a single one from CB or PDC or any of those networks.

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samstephens

18 years ago

clickbank or paydotcom is required if you want to get affiliates promoting your product.
So because these sites are not owned by you, and you have no control over them, what will you do if one day these sites are shut down?

I'd launch my own payment processing/affiliate networking webiste

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Trieu 18 years ago

Originally Posted by samstephens

I'd launch my own payment processing/affiliate networking webiste

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is there an advantage of havng your own affiliate program?
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- Darth Executor 18 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Teo
  
  is there an advantage of havng your own affiliate program?
  
  No fees going to a third party. Just you and your affiliates.
  
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  Trieu 18 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Darth Executor
  
  No fees going to a third party. Just you and your affiliates.
  
  maybe, but after thinking about it, I think clickbank will be my first choice. Mainly because you can generate free traffic from clickbank itself from people searching for products to promote
  
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Christopher R Everson

18 years ago

The big thing is that people trust clickbank.

Paydotcom? Eh, I wouldn't bother with it unless you have to.

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Chris Monty

18 years ago

I don't see Clickbank or PayDotCom shutting down. Even with the down economy, in fact, if more people are out of work, then more people would be at home, surfing the internet.

Still, I would rather see the economy turn around and improve. I think, unfortunately, it will be a long time before that happens.

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Rod Cortez

18 years ago

Originally Posted by Teo

clickbank or paydotcom is required if you want to get affiliates promoting your product.
So because these sites are not owned by you, and you have no control over them, what will you do if one day these sites are shut down?

I'd be just fine, I don't rely on them (I've got a couple test sites over at PDC, but that's about it).

How can you ever get affiliates promoting your product if that was the case?

Simple, I proactively recruit them. Secondly they also find me through my content and viral word-of-mouth.

You might also want to think about the Asteroid question Chris posed.....

RoD

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Travis72802 18 years ago

This may sound sooooo boring.

and you probably...probably would have come
up with it on your own?

But it ensures...nearly guarantees your success
no matter what happens with CB or PDC.

What is it?

Make sure you BUILD A LIST OF YOUR AFFILIATES!!!

Then help them!

Everyday!

Once they make sales with you and your
product they will more than likely follow you
no matter what Aff program you are using.

Also...

Think about the sheer power you have
when you roll out with a NEW product.

You can enjoy nearly INSTANT success with
a loyal affiliate army behind you.

Peace,
Travis
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- abelacts 18 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Travis72802
  
  Make sure you BUILD A LIST OF YOUR AFFILIATES!!!
  
  Then help them!
  
  Travis
  
  It's good to have a backup plan because you will never know what strikes you tomorrow (Lehman Brothers, AIG?). As I've always said, you have to build a business that you stack as many advantages (and control) in your favor. Overly dependent on one thing is too risky.
  
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Kevin Riley

18 years ago

Originally Posted by Rod Cortez

You might also want to think about the Asteroid question Chris posed.....

RoD

Actually, I've already bought a very large umbrella, so that problem is solved too.

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Platinum Matt

18 years ago

People are jumping on him for the way he worded his question, but it is a very valid point...

Forgetting the fact there are no other options - there are - but not none so "simply" elegant and easy as CB.

If it were to shut down, I'd be screwed...

BUT, I think that the only thing keeping CB at the top of their game is the fact that they ARE so well established. Affiliates know to go there. Merchant know to go there. If another SOLID player came along that offered the very same functionality but with a few tweaks and enhancements - and then Clickbank died, then they'd be an instant success over night.

Because "lists" would be battered with an alternative and lots would make the switch.

People are trashing the op for asking "what if they shut down" and saying that they'll never die.

I think in today's climate ANYTHING is possible. It only takes a few bad decisions OR something out of their control like a merchant account provider becoming more strict/increasing scrubbing and CB could become all but useless to us...

Having said that, I have faith in CB, I have to have, my whole online business is through them (pretty much) and I hope that all of the recent problems (yes CB, you ARE having problems right now IMO) get sorted quickly and we can go onto more solid processing for years to come.

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Chris Lockwood

18 years ago

Originally Posted by Platinum Matt

People are jumping on him for the way he worded his question, but it is a very valid point...

People are trashing the op for asking "what if they shut down" and saying that they'll never die.

I don't see anyone getting trashed. I think most people's point is that the odds of CB and PDC both going away are pretty slim, but if they do, we will deal with it. Certainly if both of those went away, somebody would create something similar, because there will always be a demand for a service like that, as long as people are buying digital products. Not to mention the fact that you can do it yourself with many scripts that are available.

It's just crazy to worry about stuff that's unlikely to happen and out of your control.

What will I do if PayPal shuts down? Start using another payment service. Do you think all payment processors are going to close with no replacements?

What will I do if my host shuts down? Find another host.

What will I do if my ISP shuts down? Find another one.

What will I do if Rolls Royce stops making cars? Buy a different make.

It's not that big a deal.

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deannatroupe

18 years ago

I'd use something like payloadz.com or build my own affiliate program. There's also the thing called look up google for affiliate program manager. I'm sure you could find an alternative if necessary.

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iMarketer

18 years ago

Somebody else would pop up pretty quickly. You can easily create your own affiliate program - the benefit of those two (amongst others) is that they provide something of a marketplace where affiliates can easily find thousands of offers.

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Tsnyder

18 years ago

Originally Posted by Teo

clickbank or paydotcom is required if you want to get affiliates promoting your product.
So because these sites are not owned by you, and you have no control over them, what will you do if one day these sites are shut down?

How can you ever get affiliates promoting your product if that was the case?

I don't know much about paydotcom but if Click Bank shuts down
I'll crack open a bottle of scotch, get drunk... and dance on their
miserable grave.

Did I mention I'm not a Click Bank fan?

Tsnyder

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DotComBum 18 years ago

The chances for these 2 sites to shut down at the same time are very slim, if it really happen (touch wood ), then just look for other alternative affiliate network, there are many of them just that they are not well known as Click bank.
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Kevin Riley

18 years ago

Originally Posted by Teo

clickbank or paydotcom is required if you want to get affiliates promoting your product.
So because these sites are not owned by you, and you have no control over them, what will you do if one day these sites are shut down?

How can you ever get affiliates promoting your product if that was the case?

Really?

The money I get from CB affiliates is so minimal to my business, I think of it as my "coffee money". CB affiliates are basically useless, and PDC affiliates are MIA.

The best affiliates I have are the ones recruited by my products or me. Yes, some promote my CB products, but those products can be moved to my RAP or $7 Secrets scripts at a moment's notice.

If you rely on CB or PDC to build your business, you are in serious trouble already.

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ExRat 18 years ago

Hi Teo,

is there an advantage of havng your own affiliate program?

because these sites are not owned by you, and you have no control over them

You answered your question in your own first post...
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Stanley Tang

18 years ago

Nothing will happen to me. Switch everything over to paypal. Don't tell me paypal is going to shut down...

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  If they ran their bussinesses properly, reinvesting commissions in their own operations, they should be fine.
  
  But if they throwed money in outside investments, stocks etc, there could be trouble down the road.
  
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  Johnson Tay 18 years ago
  
  The question should have been what if Google shuts down!
  
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  Anthony Hull 18 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Johnson Tay
  
  The question should have been what if Google shuts down!
  
  While we're at it, what if the entire Internet shuts down.. only a matter of time
  
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  mgriswold224 18 years ago
  
  If google shuts down we know astroids have hit. Isn't it funny how google has become a verb. It is something people do.
  
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  Kevin Riley 18 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by mgriswold224
  
  If google shuts down we know astroids have hit. Isn't it funny how google has become a verb. It is something people do.
  
  Yes. But if you google too much you go ... no, that's ... er .... you get carpal tunnel.
  
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  Frank Donovan 18 years ago
  
  I wouldn't worry about Clickbank or PDC shutting down.
  
  If they ever look like getting into trouble, the government would just nationalise them.
  
  Hmm..Fanny Click Bank. Has a ring to it.
  
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  naruq 18 years ago
  
  It would not affect me if they did shut down. I have multiple streams of income online and offline.
  
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18 years ago

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