10 Years In Hindsight- What I Wish I Had Done/ Learnt Sooner

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After you do anything for a time, you look back and wonder what you would've done different, what you would've changed etc. And with 10 years being online approaching this June, I've done just that, and I thought I would share some of my insights.


Stop Chasing Shiny Things.


I would've stuck to one thing and pushed it. Think of where I would be if I had started article marketing 10 years ago... would've had quite the nice passive income for sure. Stop doing the oh shiny dance. Stick to something for an actual reasonable amount of time to test and find out if it works or doesn't.


Build A List. LOL.


I never thought I would say that. Really I thought why the hell would these people want to keep hearing from me? Well, I started building my list, and guess what, I lose very few subscribers and it is continually growing. Had I started this 10 years ago, instead of this year, again my income would be very different for sure.



Now I can send out an email and watch my bank account grow, knowing I am helping those people reach their own personal goals.


And I LOVE just love the relationships I have built this way.


Brand yourself.


Make a name for yourself and stick to it.



I've always been me online. I have gone through different usernames etc, but in the end I went with my own name, and although that in itself can carry certain issues, I wish I would've started that way from the start, instead of only the last two years.



In just two years I dominate my name, you punch my name in the search engines and it's all me. Think of the branding power this would give someone after 10 years.


Build relationships.


I never thought about this power when I started. I did of course build a few in the beginning and I still work with them today, but I never did it to the extent I should've.


See, a big part of this online game is networking and relationships. Without some form of relationship, I never would have gotten to work with wonderful people like (in no particular order) Allen Says, Jim Straw, James Jones, Scot Standke, Loud Mac, Vegas Vince and the list just goes on. Had you asked me a couple years if I thought any of those names would've even given me the time of day, I would've laughed. They were the "big boys" I was just me. But through building relationships I have worked and cross promoted with all of them.


Never give up.


Now I am not saying banging your head against the wall for ten years is the most fun, but keep trying. If it means you have to get a real "job" well you learn it, then do it. It took me these 10 years to break the 6 figure mark, and you know what? I'm proud of that. I came online thinking it was a get rich quick world, only to find out that it takes hard work and dedication, just like anything in life.


Mastermind


This is something I only realized recently (Thanks Vince) More than one brain is better and can make ideas flow a whole lot better, and you will be amazed some of the things you can come up with this way.


Learn from those that know.


There are people who really know what they are talking about.



Learn to listen to what they are saying.



I have picked up and advanced my own copywriting skills listening to tips from Loud Mac. I've learned alot about article marketing from Allen Graves and Steven W. I've learned a lot about business from Allen Says and Jim Straw. I've learned a lot about barter and branding from Vegas Vince.



Point is, I shut up and listened to what they had to say, and used that to better my business.


So for those of you just getting started, or for those of you needing that extra pick me up, I hope this helps, because this can be a very hard business to get a grasp of, but once you do, it can pay off big time.


I hope this helps anyone, and if it helps just one person it did it's job.


Best wishes,
Sylvia
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Money
    I think a lot of people will be able to relate to this list, that's for sure. I can definitely spot a few similar things for myself as well. This will hopefully help a few newbies out, great post
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  • Profile picture of the author tnbig
    Very good post, should help out a lot of people. The main thing I wish I had of done, was take action quicker instead of spending all of my time reading forums etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Barbara Gathany
    Sylvia,

    Thanks for your great list. You really covered "the waterfront".

    Couple of questions:

    1)How did you start to build the relationships you talked about?

    2)How did you find a Mastermind group. I have tied to start one or join one with no luck. Because this subject has been pushed off to a seperate area, it seems like a lot of people don't look at it. Any suggstions?

    Once again thanks for your advice.

    Barbara
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
    Originally Posted by Sylvia Rolfe View Post



    Never give up.


    Now I am not saying banging your head against the wall for ten years is the most fun, but keep trying. If it means you have to get a real "job" well you learn it, then do it. It took me these 10 years to break the 6 figure mark, and you know what? I'm proud of that. I came online thinking it was a get rich quick world, only to find out that it takes hard work and dedication, just like anything in life.

    That right there is your most important point out of everything you listed.

    I concur 100%

    Never ever give up.

    In martial arts, the difference between a white belt and a black belt is simply the amount of extra time they spent practicing a technique...and sticking with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lou Diamond
    Hello,
    I wish I was more involved in social networking at the very beginning, I am now going full force with it and I am starting to see some amazing results.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
    Barbara,
    Glad you liked it.

    As for your questions. In regards to the relationships, I could write a million posts about it but here's a quick boiled down version.

    Join their lists if they have one. This way you get to know their styles, their marketing, pretty much as much as possible about them.

    Interact with them. If they send a email asking for help, or a couple questions etc, take the time to respond. You'd be amazed how simple this is, but how well it can help you build a relationship with them.

    Promote them. Even if you don't get anything for it. I LOVE microniche finder, it was one of the first softwares I ever purchased in IM. If someone asks about keyword research etc, I will pitch it to them, because I believe it is a great product. And by promoting it, I don't get anything for it. Or if you'd rather get "something" from it, be an affiliate for them.

    Give them ideas. Got an idea that is perfect for their market, or something that could be added to one of their products etc, let them know. Sometimes giving without having to get in return, is the best way to "get" something in return.

    Talk to them. They are real people after all (at least most of them LOL) Shoot them off an email, wish them a happy birthday on their birthday, anything to make yourself stand out from the rest of the bunch.

    Hope that helps a bit, like I said it can go really deep, different ways to build relationships with them, but that should give you something to get started with at least.

    In regards to the masterminding, I don't really do the traditional masterminding, more just brainstorming sessions with the boys. And that resulted from the relationship building.

    Best wishes,
    Sylvia
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  • Profile picture of the author JonMills
    great post bud

    Leverage - I learned that within the first 2 years doing business it helped a lot for the next 5
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    • Profile picture of the author Hanz
      I've started into list building. Creating a relationship is definitely key. Thanks for the post. Should open a few eyes I'm sure.
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      • Profile picture of the author paul wolfe
        Hey Sylvia

        That's an excellent post - there's some great stuff in there, not just for newbies either.

        The most important one for most people IMO is to Stop Chasing The Shiny Things.

        Once you do that then you can actually focus on your business rather than always looking for the 'next best thing/shortcut to riches.'

        Good info.




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  • Profile picture of the author Caleb D Miller
    Love your points, Sylvia!

    It's taken me 2 stinkin awful years to figure out the "business mentality" that the moneymakers were talking about from the beginning.

    1. Yes, you can get started for $10 for a domain and $10/mo for web hosting, but you need to be committed to your clients.

    2. You need to find an audience, be able to give them value upfront for nothing (or at the most their email) and be committed to understanding what it's like to be in their shoes and finding what they need.

    3. You have to have an email list. You have to scour forums offering advice and learning the language. You should use twitter, facebook, etc to stay in touch with your audience and to send them to your site when you post some new valuable stuff.

    4. You will not make money overnight, but you can start to see significant money in 90 days if you are committed to helping your audience get what they want. Share videos with them on your little home Flip camcorder about tips to help them. Write simple little blog posts from your experience using your funny/kooky opinion.

    LOL. I thought all that stuff was bs at first. (It's the internet... so I just need to find the secret button, push it, and millions will be on my doorstep when i wake up in the morning.)
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  • Profile picture of the author HealthMan
    Great info Sylvia - Thanks!

    Never give up - it's amazing how strong this drive is within me. Just when I think to give up, a thought comes in "how about trying doing it that way ... I wonder if that would work" - and here I go again... Keep hitting until you hit it.
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  • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
    "Shoulda Coulda Woulda" is no way to live your life.
    If we are going to go down that road, then I guess you could add... shoulda never married the ex-wife, shoulda bought stock in Microsoft, etc.

    Instead of focusing on what you should have done, focus on what you could do from this day forward!
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    • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
      Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

      "Shoulda Coulda Woulda" is no way to live your life.
      If we are going to go down that road, then I guess you could add... shoulda never married the ex-wife, shoulda bought stock in Microsoft, etc.

      Instead of focusing on what you should have done, focus on what you could do from this day forward!
      The whole point isn't a case of ME focusing on what I should've, could've or would've but more on places that would have improved my income, so that others can perhaps not make the same mistakes, or build upon those things from the start.

      I don't focus on regrets.

      Sylvia
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  • Profile picture of the author jbolte1976
    Sylvia,

    Great post, thanks!! I've got got a few years of IM'ing under my belt and I've learned to look at my progress over the longer term; like months or years. When I started it was more like days maybe weeks.

    JB
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  • Profile picture of the author Geoff101
    Great lessons Sylvia.

    I would ad, "stop buying and trying a gazillion things/products, stick to one and give it all you got"
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  • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
    I definately agree with the post on leverage. We can't do everything, so finding ways to leverage work already done, or being done is a big one.

    JB,
    I too have begun looking more long term. I did the same thing where I was only looking to build an income for say that month, and now I look more at how am I going to keep building a consistant income for the next year.

    Rob,
    For sure reinvestment makes it grow quicker, but many beginners don't have that option. That's why I think it is best to keep doing whatever you currently are to bring in an income, and use the proceeds from your online business can then be reinvested in the business and build up faster.

    CD,
    Excellent points.

    Geoff,
    For sure put the credit card/ paypal away. This doesn't mean you shouldn't invest in your business, you simply need to invest wisely.

    Best wishes,
    Sylvia
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  • Profile picture of the author Travis72802
    Yay Sylvia!

    and she practices what she preaches too!

    She was one of the first to help me when I asked...

    Thanks Again!

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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    Great post Sylvia. I'm at about the dozen year mark for selling online, and didn't start list building until a few years ago. I still kick myself about that one. It more than pays for itself for sure.

    A few of your points above I still need work on. But I agree w/ every one of them. Good post.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
    See I knew I missed people on my list that I had learned from.

    Travis for sure belongs up there on the list of people I have learned from. I mean between him and his bum marketing, and his methods in general. He gives away the farm in his bum marketing info, and is doing the same with project mom. There in itself is another great lesson. GIVE. Simple as that, give to others and karma will kick in for sure.

    Gary,
    I definately kick myself on the lack of list building too. Never realized what an asset it really way.

    Sylvia
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  • Profile picture of the author BrianMcLeod
    I can tell you one thing that Sylvia is
    too humble to mention about herself...

    She BUSTS HER ASS... not just for herself
    but for her customers/clients.

    She gets things done and takes care of
    business with far greater organization
    than most - myself included.

    Thanks for your kind words, Syl.

    I've always admired the way you make
    a life for your children - and I have far
    more respect for you than you realize.

    Brian
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  • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
    Awww thanks Brian

    The respect is for sure mutual.

    We've gotta meet up next time I'm down in Florida.

    Sylvia
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnQuiet
    Originally Posted by Sylvia Rolfe View Post

    Stop Chasing Shiny Things.


    I would've stuck to one thing and pushed it. Think of where I would be if I had started article marketing 10 years ago... would've had quite the nice passive income for sure. Stop doing the oh shiny dance. Stick to something for an actual reasonable amount of time to test and find out if it works or doesn't.

    Sylvia,

    There just always seems to be some new wizz bang, "I got to have it" marketing widget we just buy and then.... wow!!! "I already know most of this!" when we get it...

    Plus the "Never Quit" but also LEARN From everything GOOD or Bad...

    Babe Ruth hit 714 home runs But He struck out 1330 times !!

    Great post you motivated me today!

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  • Profile picture of the author rapidscc
    Wow Sylvia,

    Your thoughts are crystal clear.

    Something that only a person who's done that could write.

    I guess that's what you get out of those 10 years..aside from the
    six figure income of course

    This post is an inspiration.

    Best,
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  • Profile picture of the author jbode
    Hey Sylvia great advice ...I do all those things and I totally agree (they're all very important to me)

    I'd like to add that you need to build assets - meaning your own products, websites, email list... this gives you more leverage to grow your business
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  • Profile picture of the author mllnsgrl
    Originally Posted by Sylvia Rolfe View Post

    I have picked up and advanced my own copywriting skills listening to tips from Loud Mac. I've learned alot about article marketing from Allen Graves and Steven W. I've learned a lot about business from Allen Says and Jim Straw. I've learned a lot about barter and branding from Vegas Vince.


    Best wishes,
    Sylvia

    Hi Sylvia,

    Thanks for posting this. It's always great to hear from im'ers who have been at it for a long time.

    Can you tell me where to find LOUD MAC and Which STEVEN W. you're referring to? I'd like to keep reading.

    Cheers,
    Liz
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    • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
      Originally Posted by mllnsgrl View Post

      Hi Sylvia,

      Thanks for posting this. It's always great to hear from im'ers who have been at it for a long time.

      Can you tell me where to find LOUD MAC and Which STEVEN W. you're referring to? I'd like to keep reading.

      Cheers,
      Liz
      Liz,
      Loud Mac is Brian McLeod (you can see his post a few up from yours), Steven W is Steven Wagenheim. They are both great guys.

      Jbode,
      Leverage and business building is a major asset, and will only help you go further in marketing and business.

      rapidscc,
      Thanks

      Sylvia
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      • Profile picture of the author Alminc
        Very wise words from a good looking lady :rolleyes:
        Thanks for your post Sylvia.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Hey Silvia,

    I just passed 10 years marketing online last year and it made me think a lot about what I would do differently if I was just starting out.

    Your advice is good.

    I still don't focus too much on list building as much as I should and I haven't really spent any time branding me either and I'm sure I'd make more money if I did.

    Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.

    Andy
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  • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
    Andy,
    Thanks. You're another marketer I've learned much from in how to conduct myself business wise, and I love the way you straight talk everything. Simple and to the point.

    Alminc,
    Thanks.

    Sylvia
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