Rant... how NOT to market to members of the Warrior Forum

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I've listed my skype contact info on my Warrior Forum because I have made some great contacts here and believe in being accessible.

I'm also fairly partial to listening to people's marketing pitches because for no other reason, I am interested in how they're presenting themselves vs. what they're actually selling. I mean, nothing personal, but the reality is that I am not a prospect to actually buy much of anything related to IM, simply because I've been successful at it since the early 90s, and there isn't much that I haven't seen. But if you really want to market to me, then knock yourself out, I'll give you a listen and tell you straight up yea or nay, and that's it.

That being said, I am starting to really develop a fairly low tolerance for people who lurk on these forums like some seedy pimp in an L.A. bus station, hitting on youngsters, preying on their dreams, etc...

First of all, the way NOT got get accepted as a contact on Skype, or really any other social media site like Facebook, is to just put "WARRIOR FORUM" in your comment message when you request a contact.

So freaking what... WARRIOR FORUM... there's hundreds of thousands of members and lurkers of this site. Saying, "WARRIOR FORUM" isn't some secret passphrase that will gain you instant access to the VIP room. Big deal, you saw me on the Warrior Forum, why exactly do you want to make a connection?

I mean, can't you introduce yourself a little bit? Is there some compelling reason that you decided to reach out to me? Or am I just some random harvest that you think is going to net you some bigtime success?

Then, if for whatever reason that I decide to accept your contact request, don't immediately launch into some hardcore sales pitch as your first communication with me.

I literally had some idiot do just this... they requested a contact via Skype...

WARRIOR FORUM

Okay... whatever... I accepted the request in a benevolent moment.

No sooner did I accept the request, the person asks... "Are you an internet marketer"?

Uhhh... you obviously got my contact info from WARRIOR FORUM so yeah, it's a good bet... but hey, I'll play.

"I think we could have a partnership"

Mmmkay... not exactly sure why you think that, but I'm still listening....

"Are you familiar with my website? blah blah blah?"

Quick scan of the site... obviously an MLM retail ecommerce thing... not interested....

"You could promote it to your clients"

"Listen, my clients are in the services business and aren't retail candidates."

(That's my nice way of saying that if your ecommerce scheme was the last website on earth, I wouldn't risk my many years of hard earned reputation with my list for your schmucky product wrapped in your terrible approach that's a turn off at best.)

"Well, if you ever run across a retail customer that would want ecommerce we do PPC, SEO, web development, etc..."

"Okay thanks."

"Check out this other link of stuff we did...."

{click} ... up comes this terrible page of adsense links for an obviously shelved domain in a completely random consumer market...

"Okay thanks"

"You could make commissions by...."


{CLICK}

That was the sound of me blocking the contact.


Comeon. Quit trolling like bottom feeders.

I'm not one of those who complains about being marketed to... I'm a freaking marketer... it's all good!

But dayummm!!! Don't be a total herb when you do it.
#forum #market #members #rant #warrior
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Michael, have I ever told you I love reading your posts?

      Don't worry...I promise never to Skype you unless I need some witty
      comebacks for some annoying bottom feeders.

      Yeah...I get 'em too.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

      The art of relationship building has gone completely out the doors, nowadays, with some. Sigh.
      Most people don't want to build relationships. They just want to make a
      fast buck and be done with it.

      Fortunately, I have made some good business relationships here with some
      truly classy people. I'd name them but I don't want to embarrass anybody.

      Yes, there are some really good folks in this world.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
        Ha. I get this on Skype, but also on Facebook now as well.

        That little message box pops up and people start asking me all kinds of things.

        This past week I was dealing with an older gentleman who I was trying to help but he was insistent that all making money online was a scam. LOL - there was no getting through to him.

        I even encouraged him to get over here and just start reading - but that was going to be too much work I suppose.

        I felt bad as it seemed he had made some bad investments into a "web business" but in the end it seemed that he had no clue about business and thought the web was some magical thing.

        It got to a point where he wanted me to give out my number and talk to him directly on the phone - as the typing chat was not enough - but it had turned into a "woe is me, I spent 5k and only made a hundred bucks" or something similar.

        I'm not afraid to call someone, but I could tell it just wasn't going anywhere and his mind set was all wrong. He wanted to likely talk and cry more about his story. I don't have time for that. I like to try to provide solutions - not listen about old problems.

        Between that and people just spamming into my skype dropping links to sites I have no time or interest in, it does make it difficult to try to keep the lines of communication open.

        And I have no clue what is up with the ones that just come in and say "how are you, where do you live, what do you do" like it's all a big dating scene or something.

        How about " Hi, my name is so and so, I found you "here" and was looking for help with "this" and thought you might have a clue. LOL

        What I really love is when someone tries to sell me their services, and I point them to where I can get the exact same services for less money.
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  • Profile picture of the author BizBoost
    That rocked. Now I've got someone to call on Skype. Maybe stop by for some Skyline Chili, or Grayder's Ice Cream, when I move through the area. Won't sell you anything, though... I AM the product.

    Nice rant.

    Eric
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    • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
      Originally Posted by Robert Puddy View Post

      i am so tempted to skype you with WARRIOR FROUM IN THE MESSAGE HAHAHAHA
      Go for it man. Give me your best MLM pitch while you're at it. I'm a glutton for punishment.

      Originally Posted by BizBoost View Post

      That rocked. Now I've got someone to call on Skype. Maybe stop by for some Skyline Chili, or Grayder's Ice Cream, when I move through the area. Won't sell you anything, though... I AM the product.

      Nice rant.

      Eric
      Another longtime warrior, Don Schenk, and I meet up for Skyline. Can't do Graeters though (even though it's a magnitude better than Cold Stone Creamery even...), I'm Wilford Brimley Diabeetus.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

    {CLICK}

    That was the sound of me blocking the contact.

    Come on. Quit trolling like bottom feeders.

    I'm not one of those who complains about being marketed to... I'm a freaking marketer... it's all good!

    But dayummm!!! Don't be a total herb when you do it.
    lol .... that was hilarious. What's so funny about it is you actually played along and let this a**hat market to you and he is so totally inept at it.

    Reminds me of some offline marketers who somehow got my number and called me.

    Me: Hello

    Long Silence

    Me: (louder) Hello

    Them: Hi

    Me: (impatient) Well, who are you and what do you want?

    Them: We can get your site listed in search engines and maintain the site.

    Me: Click

    No introduction or feeling me out for what I do or what I could possibly need or anything. Just a very uncomfortable phone call from some bozos who think they've got offline marketing down pat.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      Me: Hello

      Long Silence

      Me: (louder) Hello

      Them: Hi

      Me: (impatient) Well, who are you and what do you want?

      Them: We can get your site listed in search engines and maintain the site.

      Me: Click
      I would have to say: "congratulations! so can I! " lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    Oh! That's not what skype is for? I guess I'll need to change my marketing tactics. shucks!

    I miss skyline so much! Makes me hungry!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Damien Roche
      Originally Posted by Intrepreneur View Post

      Meet SEXY Singles Online 2010
      My god where's the link?! I need satisfaction..
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      • Profile picture of the author Intrepreneur
        Originally Posted by Damien Roche View Post

        My god where's the link?! I need satisfaction..
        HaHa. It's on one of those Skype spammers automated contact tools. Sign in to Skype and it'll come along some day soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
    Hey, pssst, Michael -- you wanna buy a watch? I got some Rolex. Gold. Real good lookin' stuff. Wanna impress the ladies? Yo Dude, this stuff is sick...
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

      Hey, pssst, Michael -- you wanna buy a watch? I got some Rolex. Gold. Real good lookin' stuff. Wanna impress the ladies? Yo Dude, this stuff is sick...
      Somebody's been watching too many Eddie Murphy movies.
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  • Profile picture of the author BizBoost
    That's it, I'm going to get a Mexican omelette for breakfast... 3 eggs w/chili laid in, and maybe some salsa, too... I'm out.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anon7
    Hey, pssst, Michael -- you wanna buy a watch? I got some Rolex. Gold. Real good lookin' stuff. Wanna impress the ladies? Yo Dude, this stuff is sick...
    Michael, I'm directly in her downline, and I've got to tell ya, these watches are awesome (okay, mine quit working). This is THE MLM opportunity of a lifetime!

    They really do impress the ladies, Yo! My mom even let me pay for dinner, because she said that the watch made me look rich.

    So far this year I've made well over 20 bucks in profits from this!!! I'll skype ya the details! ;-)

    -Jack
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  • Profile picture of the author Brad Gosse
    Michael you never responded to my message about V1A6RA or Cash Gifting.

    What gives?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by Brad Gosse View Post

      Michael you never responded to my message about V1A6RA or Cash Gifting.

      What gives?
      Was that you sending me those messages too?

      If I'd known it was you Brad, I might have taken a look.

      Why are you using the username "Hot Sexy Babe with Melons" anyway?
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        Originally Posted by avenuegirl View Post


        Why are you using the username "Hot Sexy Babe with Melons" anyway?
        Don't you know? He had a sex change operation.
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        • Profile picture of the author Brad Gosse
          Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

          Don't you know? He had a sex change operation.
          No no, I just prefer to wear women's clothing Steven. I did such a good job you thought I was post op :p
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  • Profile picture of the author DrGUID
    Good rant. I'd just like to say...

    Yes please! Anyone can PM me about joint ventures.

    No thanks! I don't want to buy anything from anyone.
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  • Profile picture of the author andybeveridge
    I get concerned that the subject line is always Viagra or some kind of penis pill.

    How do they know about my personal problems?
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  • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
    Hey Michael, I have this awesome **** Berry product I want to tell you about. Where can I get that Skype contact info. again?
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  • Profile picture of the author VilPietersen@
    I don't know what sort of friends you make through skype. People on there aren't trying to connect with me and sell me mlm opportunities! Usually, they're just make my penis bigger (or harder)!

    Nice post
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    • Profile picture of the author grayambition
      Originally Posted by VilPietersen@ View Post

      I don't know what sort of friends you make through skype. People on there aren't trying to connect with me and sell me mlm opportunities! Usually, they're just make my penis bigger (or harder)!
      That's funny. They all want to make MY penis bigger or harder too, and last time I looked...

      I really like all the URGENT, YOUR COMMISSION IS WAITING stuff, but one of my other favs is [PERSONAL]. Cause of course it's for my eyes only, as long as you don't count the other 10,500 schlubs on the list.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        This Skype moment brought to you by Proctor & Gamble.

        Spammer - Hey man you wanna...

        Annoyed Recipient - NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! (click)

        We now return you to As The Internet Burns.
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  • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
    Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

    just put "WARRIOR FORUM" in your comment message when you request a contact..
    I got one of those messages and i felt special, but now everyone gets these special offers ? as hopes fade again and with feelings of being used and abused i await the next knight in shining armor.
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  • Profile picture of the author Denise Oyston
    Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

    I've listed my skype contact info on my Warrior Forum because I have made some great contacts here and believe in being accessible.

    I'm also fairly partial to listening to people's marketing pitches because for no other reason, I am interested in how they're presenting themselves vs. what they're actually selling. I mean, nothing personal, but the reality is that I am not a prospect to actually buy much of anything related to IM, simply because I've been successful at it since the early 90s, and there isn't much that I haven't seen. But if you really want to market to me, then knock yourself out, I'll give you a listen and tell you straight up yea or nay, and that's it.

    That being said, I am starting to really develop a fairly low tolerance for people who lurk on these forums like some seedy pimp in an L.A. bus station, hitting on youngsters, preying on their dreams, etc...

    First of all, the way NOT got get accepted as a contact on Skype, or really any other social media site like Facebook, is to just put "WARRIOR FORUM" in your comment message when you request a contact.

    So freaking what... WARRIOR FORUM... there's hundreds of thousands of members and lurkers of this site. Saying, "WARRIOR FORUM" isn't some secret passphrase that will gain you instant access to the VIP room. Big deal, you saw me on the Warrior Forum, why exactly do you want to make a connection?

    I mean, can't you introduce yourself a little bit? Is there some compelling reason that you decided to reach out to me? Or am I just some random harvest that you think is going to net you some bigtime success?

    Then, if for whatever reason that I decide to accept your contact request, don't immediately launch into some hardcore sales pitch as your first communication with me.

    I literally had some idiot do just this... they requested a contact via Skype...

    WARRIOR FORUM

    Okay... whatever... I accepted the request in a benevolent moment.

    No sooner did I accept the request, the person asks... "Are you an internet marketer"?

    Uhhh... you obviously got my contact info from WARRIOR FORUM so yeah, it's a good bet... but hey, I'll play.

    "I think we could have a partnership"

    Mmmkay... not exactly sure why you think that, but I'm still listening....

    "Are you familiar with my website? blah blah blah?"

    Quick scan of the site... obviously an MLM retail ecommerce thing... not interested....

    "You could promote it to your clients"

    "Listen, my clients are in the services business and aren't retail candidates."

    (That's my nice way of saying that if your ecommerce scheme was the last website on earth, I wouldn't risk my many years of hard earned reputation with my list for your schmucky product wrapped in your terrible approach that's a turn off at best.)

    "Well, if you ever run across a retail customer that would want ecommerce we do PPC, SEO, web development, etc..."

    "Okay thanks."

    "Check out this other link of stuff we did...."

    {click} ... up comes this terrible page of adsense links for an obviously shelved domain in a completely random consumer market...

    "Okay thanks"

    "You could make commissions by...."


    {CLICK}

    That was the sound of me blocking the contact.


    Comeon. Quit trolling like bottom feeders.

    I'm not one of those who complains about being marketed to... I'm a freaking marketer... it's all good!

    But dayummm!!! Don't be a total herb when you do it.
    Love the post! In the UK I am forever getting calls for seo !! " would you like to be on the first page of Google/".I usuallt reply I am in 6 spots actually. The sad thing is this normally goes straight over their head.

    Oh Dear!!

    Cheers

    Denise
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  • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
    I already removed my Skype info from my profile. Facebook is next. I can see why civilians say we marketers ruin things like Twitter, Facebook, and Skype. Clueless dopes like the guy who contacted you gives us all a bad rep.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ilya Feynberg
    Yo hey Mike, I gots an idea I wants to runs by yous....

    No really though, well said man...well said. It's an almost daily part of life for me. I let them know that they're simply making themselves look like a used car salesman and that usually gets the message across to them.

    These people will typically never make it very far in their attempt...and it starts at the core...they have no idea why they're doing something.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    A fine rant indeed! Michael, that's exactly why I don't put my Skype ID out there for the general public. I've deleted various Instant Message ID's or programs over the years. Some get spammed even though I've never given my ID to anyone but family. Spam dammers anyway!

    Although I do admit, before I got on the no call list, I used to have fun playing with telemarketer's minds. Like the time a Kirby salesman called and I asked if it could get blood out. "Blood?" he asked. "Yeah," I said, "there's blood everywhere. Can you come right over?"

    LOL - that guy couldn't get off the phone fast enough! I was waiting for the police to come over but they never did. I never got another call from Kirby either. I wonder why?
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Michael,

    Here's one for the list: Come in on your first day, and send a PM for your offer to every one of the dozen or so members you're allowed to private message before you hit the threshhold.


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    • Profile picture of the author CC
      Micheal, thank you so much for this post ..I never had so much fun reading a thread as I did this one....I'm still laughing.

      Thanks to everyone who replied too...This made my day to see the lighter side of IM.

      Connie
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  • Profile picture of the author James Sol Radina
    Is that were all these random Facebook requests are coming from>!!! Hmmm. Sneaky.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    AMEN to that brother Michael, I can feel your pain!

    I had my Skype info on this forum for all of one week. Some of my favs were (yep, these were all real)....

    ...."wanna make some money?"

    ...."fellow Warrior here."

    ...."we're having a Quixtar presentation in your city"

    ...."what's your best method for getting traffic?" (Yes, that was their first message to me).

    ...."can I borrow fifty bucks?"

    Need I say more?

    RoD
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    • Profile picture of the author Hanz
      I got a Skype contact request once:

      "Yo dude...Sup??? Add me!"

      :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    Well the unintended consequences of my post has been fielding people razzing me all day long.

    WARRIOR FORUM!!!

    lol

    I'm a good sport and there are some really great people that love a good laugh... which is one of the things that makes them great people.
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