by Mr Ex
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Hello Everyone,

If .com was taken for a domain name would you choose .net or .org ?

I think .org sounds more Authoritative.

Everyones thoughts are appreciated.

Thank You,
Mr Ex
#net #org
  • Profile picture of the author blackcat123
    My preference is .com, .net and .org

    I think there is no harm in choosing either .net or .org prior to the other one. It won't make any significant differences.
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  • Profile picture of the author Louise Green
    .org is usually for non profit websites.

    But there's no law against it.. so why not.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gravc
    A couple of weeks ago I attended a webinar about building websites for google and have been told that google loves .org over .net and even .com!!!!

    The guy who told us this definately knows his stuff and makes a lot of money from seo and free marketing
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    • Profile picture of the author iSoftware
      Originally Posted by Gravc View Post

      A couple of weeks ago I attended a webinar about building websites for google and have been told that google loves .org over .net and even .com!!!!

      The guy who told us this definately knows his stuff and makes a lot of money from seo and free marketing
      whoever this guy is didn't know what he was talking about......google matt cutt's interview at the recent domain investment conference he spoke at for some insight....
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      • Profile picture of the author joetheseo
        Everyone loves to make assumptions, but do you want the real truth?

        A study was recently performed by a very wise marketer (Steve Clayton) that you might like.

        He took an average of what extensions were in the top 10 of the SERPS for any given keyword.

        The results came to something like this (sorry, don't remember the exact statistics)


        .com = 80% (mainly from old domains that have been around forever)

        .org = 7%

        .net = 4%

        .info = 2%

        I know that some people will say "well that's only statistics" yada yada whatever.

        To answer your question, I never use .net domains anymore .
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        • Profile picture of the author kchui1028
          always strive for .COM extension, or find a different domain name.. otherwise, you'd be losing a ton of direct traffic thru Viral Marketing (word of mouth) because most people would search for .com first or only.

          Originally Posted by joecrupie View Post

          Everyone loves to make assumptions, but do you want the real truth?

          A study was recently performed by a very wise marketer (Steve Clayton) that you might like.

          He took an average of what extensions were in the top 10 of the SERPS for any given keyword.

          The results came to something like this (sorry, don't remember the exact statistics)


          .com = 80% (mainly from old domains that have been around forever)

          .org = 7%

          .net = 4%

          .info = 2%

          I know that some people will say "well that's only statistics" yada yada whatever.

          To answer your question, I never use .net domains anymore .
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        • Originally Posted by joecrupie View Post

          Everyone loves to make assumptions, but do you want the real truth?

          A study was recently performed by a very wise marketer (Steve Clayton) that you might like.

          He took an average of what extensions were in the top 10 of the SERPS for any given keyword.

          The results came to something like this (sorry, don't remember the exact statistics)


          .com = 80% (mainly from old domains that have been around forever)

          .org = 7%

          .net = 4%

          .info = 2%

          I know that some people will say "well that's only statistics" yada yada whatever.

          To answer your question, I never use .net domains anymore .
          Never trust stats. You dont know how accurate they are. .com's are so popular because they were the first commercially used extension.

          OP, if you are looking for keyword domains and .com is taken, get the .org. If you just want a brandable domain, keep playing till you come up with a good .com. But for keyword purposes, I do not even look for .com's - only .org's.
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          • Profile picture of the author joetheseo
            Originally Posted by Charles Montgomery View Post

            Never trust stats. You dont know how accurate they are. .com's are so popular because they were the first commercially used extension.

            OP, if you are looking for keyword domains and .com is taken, get the .org. If you just want a brandable domain, keep playing till you come up with a good .com. But for keyword purposes, I do not even look for .com's - only .org's.
            Well I already knew someone was going to say that.

            Basically you just told me that stats don't matter although you're doing exactly what the stats say to do.

            Therefore, stats matter.

            Problem solved. Use .com or .org -- If there's an EXACT match .net - Well, maybe do your own testing?
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          • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
            Originally Posted by Charles Montgomery View Post

            Never trust stats. You dont know how accurate they are. .com's are so popular because they were the first commercially used extension.
            But, but, but THEY said it and I believe them. The cargo planes will land at my remote village if I take action and build a crooked landing strip and fashion a microphone out of bamboo. And Google will reward me if I only buy .com domains.

            The fact is that the domain extension itself makes no difference for SEO purposes. It does matter somewhat for branding purposes.
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            • Profile picture of the author joetheseo
              Originally Posted by bgmacaw View Post

              But, but, but THEY said it and I believe them. The cargo planes will land at my remote village if I take action and build a crooked landing strip and fashion a microphone out of bamboo. And Google will reward me if I only buy .com domains.

              The fact is that the domain extension itself makes no difference for SEO purposes. It does matter somewhat for branding purposes.

              Matt Cutts says it doesn't matter about the extension, so it MUST be true!? :confused:

              The truth is that .org will rank slightly faster, but BGMACAW is right, if you're SEO efforts are poor, then you're going to be POOR! hehe..
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        • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
          Originally Posted by joecrupie View Post

          Everyone loves to make assumptions, but do you want the real truth?

          A study was recently performed by a very wise marketer (Steve Clayton) that you might like.

          He took an average of what extensions were in the top 10 of the SERPS for any given keyword.

          The results came to something like this (sorry, don't remember the exact statistics)


          .com = 80% (mainly from old domains that have been around forever)

          .org = 7%

          .net = 4%

          .info = 2%

          I know that some people will say "well that's only statistics" yada yada whatever.

          To answer your question, I never use .net domains anymore .

          If you looked at all of the sites on the internet - wouldn't it come out be something like:

          .com = 80%

          .org = 7%

          .net = 4%

          .info = 2%

          ...in which case, I would be led to believe that it doesn't matter what tld you get.

          I am currently using com, net and org on very similar sites - and I don't see much difference as far as which rank better.

          When it comes to Google, I don't think they care what extension is used, I think they care more about the content on the site, the user experience and the authority links leading to it.

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        • Profile picture of the author iSoftware
          Originally Posted by joecrupie View Post

          Everyone loves to make assumptions, but do you want the real truth?

          A study was recently performed by a very wise marketer (Steve Clayton) that you might like.

          He took an average of what extensions were in the top 10 of the SERPS for any given keyword.

          The results came to something like this (sorry, don't remember the exact statistics)


          .com = 80% (mainly from old domains that have been around forever)

          .org = 7%

          .net = 4%

          .info = 2%

          I know that some people will say "well that's only statistics" yada yada whatever.

          To answer your question, I never use .net domains anymore .
          Correlation does not equal causation.....
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  • Profile picture of the author derekhac
    I don't think theres any major difference between .net and .org. I use .net on omy own site
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  • Profile picture of the author iSoftware
    You should understand that if you are considering building an authority site, you will be GIVING TRAFFIC AWAY TO THE .COM owner if you buy the .NET!

    Seriously - this is an established understanding in professional domain investing circles.

    If you are buying a niche site and you only want the seo advantages of an exact match domain, then fine, you may get the .net.

    In certain verticals/niches .orgs can be quite good - ex. education or some kind of review site even. There's the psychological attachment to the .org, i.e. it was ORIGINALLY for nonprofits so sometimes people still do believe that.

    Funnily, quite a few edu .org's actually get substantial direct navigation traffic (i.e. "type-in" traffic).

    To be honest, I'd stay away from both the extensions if you are thinking of building an authority site and go with another domain......

    Somethings to know regarding what makes a good domain"

    -20 or less characters
    -no odd characters or numbers (or less highly relevant)
    -dictionary domain - you know those cutesy sounding domains? They only sound cute to the people who think them up - not to any investors (and why create something someone wouldn't want to buy one day?) - make sure it's a dictionary word(s)
    -use google adwords tool on exact match (not just broad match) to get a better sense of the exact match searches per month
    -ask 5 non IM people what they think the site is about just from the name - if they know exactly what it's about you're on to something....

    of course there are a good dozen or so other metrics one could use but this should help...good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jusiam
    Finding a good .com is always very tough. Most of the time we are left with the choice of selecting either .org or .net. I think .org has a slight edge over .net. I don't know the reason why, but i guess .org looks more authoritive and .net looks more spammy in the eyes of the search engine! Most of my .org sites rank higher than . nets.
    Any warrior with similar experieces?
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  • Here is an example of one of mine.
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    www.yogurtmachine.org 
    Hardly any SEO, on page or off page, with almost no unique content. Yet, it ranks on the 1st page of google with the .com nowhere to be found. That is only one of hundreds that I have like that.

    Those stats are worthless.
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  • Profile picture of the author metabinltd
    It doesn't matter - i've got .net's ranking highly for competitive terms, i would rather have a .info with my targetted keywords than a .com without when ranking quickly with SEO.

    Anyway, isn't everyone on twitter and facebook these days?
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  • Profile picture of the author coach
    >>If .com was taken for a domain name would you choose .net or .org ?<<

    No. Pick another name in .com
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    • Originally Posted by coach View Post

      >>If .com was taken for a domain name would you choose .net or .org ?<<

      No. Pick another name in .com
      Wow. After all the info in this thread, you come in and say that?

      No one take this advice!
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  • If the .com is taken, should you buy the .net or the .org?

    If you plan to invest your blood, sweat, and tears into the development of a website, why not buy both (if they are both available)? Domains cost about eight bucks and some change (without bulk purchases).

    Develop one and redirect the other.

    Which one should you develop -- the .net or .org? Well, it depends on your niche market. For example, if you target academic, government, non-profit, or health-related markets, the .org is probably your best bet. Not necessarily because of search engine rankings, but because prospects are programmed to associate that particular top-level domain extension with authoritative, impartial, and trustworthy information. In other words, it doesn't come off as commercial.

    Let me give you a quick example...

    My eight-year-old son has a medical condition. Whenever I see a domain name related to that condition with a .com extension, I feel severe aversion toward the individual or company. My first thought is "what snake oil does this person peddle?"

    However, when I see a .org domain related to the condition, even if blazes banner ads and "buy now" buttons down the page, I'm much more receptive to their message. Crazy, huh?

    Does this mean you should pick the .org?

    Not at all. What I'm telling you is...

    Get inside the mind of your target market and let them decide which domain you should buy and develop.

    In the end, your target market must be the compass that directs every decision you make (even something as "trivial" as which domain name you choose -- trust me, it isn't trivial).

    Build your foundation on anything other than your target market's inner thoughts, desires, and prejudices, and you build your business upon quicksand.
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  • Profile picture of the author prtt75
    I prefer .com, .org, then .net .
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