by dave11
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Hello,

I am new to affiliate marketing and have recently bought the Rapid Mass Traffic course. Following this course I set up an account with Leadimpact for my paid 'Contextual' traffic and began promoting a product from Clickbank. In two days the product produced over 7000 hits. The problem is that it has not produced one sale.

I targeted my market by the use of keywords specific to the product. I checked that my affiliate link was copied correctly.

Could it be that Clickbank products do not accept Contextual traffic?

Can anyone comment on why I have not received any sales?

Thanks,
Dave
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  • Profile picture of the author EvcRo
    Probably poor traffic quality. 7000 hits is a lot, and also probably cheap, so the quality is nill hence no sales.
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    • Profile picture of the author LeadImpact
      Originally Posted by EvcRo View Post

      Probably poor traffic quality. 7000 hits is a lot, and also probably cheap, so the quality is nill hence no sales.
      The quality is good when utilized correctly. Conversions are based on keyword/ad combination. Advertisers need to remember that they are delivering a user directly to a website, so if you are delivering that to the merchant site then the keywords better be relevant. A lot of people are now making their own landing pages to control the messaging better and this in turn can make the keyword/ad combination better.
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  • Profile picture of the author WilliamL
    You are probably not alone with your "problem". If it would be so easy to make money, everyone would do it. For real: Have you built a landing page for the product? If not, there may be a tracking problem from the ClickBank Affiliate system. Can I ask what product you are promoting?

    If you receive 7000 hits in two days, the traffic can't be targeted unless you spend hundreds of dollars. I haven't bought Traffic Ultimatum but I think that George Brown is producing quality instructions.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
      Originally Posted by WilliamL View Post

      You are probably not alone with your "problem". If it would be so easy to make money, everyone would do it. For real: Have you built a landing page for the product? If not, there may be a tracking problem from the ClickBank Affiliate system. Can I ask what product you are promoting?

      If you receive 7000 hits in two days, the traffic can't be targeted unless you spend hundreds of dollars. I haven't bought Traffic Ultimatum but I think that George Brown is producing quality instructions.
      Rapid Mass Traffic isn't the same as traffic ultimatum
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      • Profile picture of the author WilliamL
        Originally Posted by Mohammad Afaq View Post

        Rapid Mass Traffic isn't the same as traffic ultimatum
        I'm sorry, my failure- was not concentrated enough
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    • Profile picture of the author dave11
      Thanks guys. I do direct linking without a web page. The product I was promoting was World of Warcraft guide.

      I am keen to do this full time and do away with my full time 8-5 job, so will take any advice seriously.
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  • Profile picture of the author donmccobb
    Join the club. What is supposed to be targeted traffic, isn't always targeted. I'm having the same problem. What we need to do is get real targeted traffic. In other words visitors who are really interested in our products. It's not so easy, but we keep working on it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Wechito
    I don't know how Rapid Mass Traffic works, and I have never use Leadimpact. However, there are some things that can be always applied:
    - You are sending people to the sales page of the vendor. So, that sales page needs to be a good one.
    - Maybe the people you are targeting are not willing to buy, just looking around for information.
    - Only few sales are done immediately (the first time they go to the sales page). a good thing here is to create your mailing list in order to "remember" people that they have not yet bought what they where looking for.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    i have never sold ANYTHING with fake "hits" traffic - that's what it is.

    Traffic of lowest quality from popups/popunders. Work on your SEO or other ways to get traffic.

    And, by the way, it's called "hits" since most of those don't even take a look at the site.

    I wish it were that easy...just buy so called "high quality" (sarcasm...) traffic, like 10.000 hits and then being a few grand richer each time Seriously, forget this kind of traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author winebuddy
    Leadimpact uses popovers and popunders - and that type of ad is annoying to say the least.

    With Adwords or Yahoo Search Marketing, people are SEEKING the information that they are shown - it is not SHOVED into their face and that's a huge difference.

    I have tried several "penny a pop" programs and while they result in thousands of page views, they result in very few sales for the reason mentioned above.

    I also have several of my affiliates on Clickbank using that kind of traffic and they get ZERO order form impressions - hence - no sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author PCRoger
    Originally Posted by cjmo75 View Post

    I've always had the most Clickbank sales from good old keyword optimized articles. Yes, it's a little work and doesn't produce lots of traffic, but the difference is 1 sale per 70 hits to 0 sales per 7000 hits. Sometimes less is more when it comes to traffic. People who click through from an article are looking for specific information, and if your articles provides them with some good info, they'll click your link to find more. My advice - Stay away from those rapid traffic methods as the only person who makes money from them is the vendor.
    Same thing here.

    It's not just traffic, but traffic that has the problem your product or service solves.

    Regards,
    PCRoger.
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  • Profile picture of the author PCRoger
    You might want to grab a copy of my free special report at CBSaleTracker.com

    How To Add Affiliate Links To Your Articles And Lenses
    - Protect your commission and stay on EzineArticles good side!-

    I cover lots of info in there on links and redirecting.

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    • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
      Originally Posted by PCRoger View Post

      You might want to grab a copy of my free special report at CBSaleTracker.com

      How To Add Affiliate Links To Your Articles And Lenses
      - Protect your commission and stay on EzineArticles good side!-

      I cover lots of info in there on links and redirecting.

      Regards,
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      I know you mean well Roger but there is no self promotion in threads allowed a lot of people would be in here over running the site with them
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  • Profile picture of the author DrGUID
    Hi,

    Software vendor and eBook author here. I can tell you that most of my affiliates do absolutely nothing to earn their commission, hence most of them are exceptionally lucky to make a sale from my stuff.

    The affiliates that go the extra mile (make a special offer, write article about how product X solves problem Y), they take most of the commission I pay out to affiliates.
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  • Profile picture of the author WealthCoachPro
    Originally Posted by dave11 View Post

    Hello,



    Could it be that Clickbank products do not accept Contextual traffic?
    Try and target the traffic more, or you will burn thru alot of cash quickly.
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    • Profile picture of the author dave11
      Your right Wealthcoach Pro, my account with LeadImpact went from $200 to zero in three days. Very disapointing. Thanks PC Rodger, will have a look at your report. ImmotnaMarkerting, I did what you suggest and my Clickbank id appears at the bottom of the page.

      My keywords for this product were taken from the landing page so I presume that the traffic generated were targeted buyers looking for this product. That is why I am so puzzled that not one of the 7000 visitors made a purchase. Obviously I have got a lot to learn about this business.

      Thanks for your comments guys.
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      • Profile picture of the author LeadImpact
        Originally Posted by dave11 View Post

        Your right Wealthcoach Pro, my account with LeadImpact went from $200 to zero in three days. Very disapointing. Thanks PC Rodger, will have a look at your report. ImmotnaMarkerting, I did what you suggest and my Clickbank id appears at the bottom of the page.

        My keywords for this product were taken from the landing page so I presume that the traffic generated were targeted buyers looking for this product. That is why I am so puzzled that not one of the 7000 visitors made a purchase. Obviously I have got a lot to learn about this business.

        Thanks for your comments guys.
        Were you tracking everything? What keywords were getting the most hits? Did you turn those off after day one when you realized it wasn't working?

        All of these questions stem from one thing...tracking.

        With any new marketing channel you use, you should be tracking and also starting off with a small test. You can just as easily lose money with other paid traffic, but it sounds like Rapid Mass Traffic has given people an idea that it's super easy to make money online

        Start off small, track everything, and expand on what's working for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author mannawealth
    It's one thing to generate traffic to your website and it's another to turn the traffic into sales. Check that the traffic is quality and also that the sales page of the website you're promoting converts.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Immotna
    There might be some factors that resulted you in no sales for 7000 hits.. Perhaps:
    -you're targeting the wrong audience
    -the salespage is poorly written which results to low conversion
    -or if you're using link cloaker to track your hits, it might have ripped out your CB affiliate link, sending your visitors directly to the salespage but not embedding cookies to the visitors' browsers. (usually happens on
    some stealth cloaking software)

    To get around this, visit the product page using your cloaked link for the CB product, and initiate the order process. If you CB id is shown at the bottom of the order page then no problem with your cloaking software.

    -try utilizing a landing page and capture your visitors emails so that you can follow up on them too..
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  • Profile picture of the author LeadImpact
    Originally Posted by dave11 View Post

    Hello,

    I am new to affiliate marketing and have recently bought the Rapid Mass Traffic course. Following this course I set up an account with Leadimpact for my paid 'Contextual' traffic and began promoting a product from Clickbank. In two days the product produced over 7000 hits. The problem is that it has not produced one sale.

    I targeted my market by the use of keywords specific to the product. I checked that my affiliate link was copied correctly.

    Could it be that Clickbank products do not accept Contextual traffic?

    Can anyone comment on why I have not received any sales?

    Thanks,
    Dave
    Hi, sorry to hear that you didn't make any sales. The problem we see a lot of the time with new advertisers running clickbank offers is that they use EVERY keyword known to man. I haven't specifically read the Rapid Mass Traffic ebook, but it sounds like it's somewhat misleading into how to best utilize our system. On the one hand the ebook is living up to its name and you are getting Rapid Mass Traffic, but with a little tweaking PPV can be good converting traffic.

    I have mentioned this in several posts already, but the key with PPV is to start off with a targeted keyword list and to track everything. New advertisers nowadays are coming in with 5000+ keyword lists that includes every single variation of a keyword where they really need to come in with a super targeted keyword list of 20-50 keywords. Start off with this small list and then expand upon whats working.
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  • Profile picture of the author badboy_Nick
    Originally Posted by dave11 View Post

    Hello,


    I targeted my market by the use of keywords specific to the product. I checked that my affiliate link was copied correctly.

    Could it be that Clickbank products do not accept Contextual traffic?

    Can anyone comment on why I have not received any sales?
    Yes

    The product you are trying to promote just SUCKS. Plain and simple. And before anyone says "Oh, you need to promot eit better" ... its like you having a store and people walk in and nobody buys. Would re-decorating the store really make a difference to how many people buy the stuff you have for sale?

    Send the traffic somewhere else, saves you a lot of hassle

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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Endres
    I don't know if you've downloaded or tried the toolbar that lets you "opt-in" to lead impact's pop-up advertising, but I have and I can see how it could become very annoying for some people. It only took a few pop-ups till I would automatically close the window as soon as it came up on my screen without even looking at the content.

    Because of that, ClickBank products aren't going to sell well enough to be profitable when using this type of advertising. I know the manual says you can do it but how the author really makes his money is on CPA advertising where he can give away free stuff and get paid for the leads. If you are going to continue with Lead Impact, I would try CPA if you can get into a good network.

    The manual also says that you can get into CPA affiliate networks pretty easy but I've found it very difficult. In fact one network that used to be easy to get into, was getting a flood of applications because of Rapid Mass Traffic and are now only accepting experienced CPA experts.

    I'm not trying to discourage you though, I know you can make money doing this if that's how you want to do it. It just takes time, patience and persistence.
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  • Profile picture of the author dave11
    LeadImpact, no I was not tracking anything nor did I test drive the product which in hindsight I should have done. In all honesty I have read the Rapid Mass Traffic course and jumped straight in. This was stupid as you guys have highlited a lot of stuff which I should have considered before even attempting to sell anything. For example, Bad Nick pointed out that I probably had the wrong product. Didn't realise that there was so much to affiliate marketing.

    Thanks for your comments guys.

    Hi Andrew, can you recommend any other traffic sources?
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  • Profile picture of the author The_Archer
    Paying for traffic outside of search engines is just garbage, all of it, unless you know to to leverage it properly. You'd be better off spending more on SEO tools and get organic traffic instead. Direct linking is rather dead now, not as good as it used to be.

    So take the time and join a private community and learn how to run an online business. If you don't want to spend the time to get a high PR then maybe you'd be better off doing Forex, penny stocks or paid surverys which doesn't require any web development, SEO or traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author higginb3
      Originally Posted by The_Archer View Post

      Paying for traffic outside of search engines is just garbage, all of it, unless you know to to leverage it properly. You'd be better off spending more on SEO tools and get organic traffic instead. Direct linking is rather dead now, not as good as it used to be. .
      I agree, I stopped chasing that sort of traffic years ago and have been much better off for doing so. The money is much better spent creating a niche blog complete with content, autoresponder, etc. You can get one up and running quickly if you have the budget. You won't make money immediately, but it is there for the long haul. I always collect emails on any site/blog I do... really helps to drive traffic to my offers or my own websites. You are much better off creating your own traffic, etc. I even have some blogs that are related in subject so it makes it nice to cross promote.
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  • Profile picture of the author nitesh
    Hello Sir,

    Analyse the potential of a product before beginning to market it. Can you provide more details about the product you selected so that I can give some useful advice?

    Thank You
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank_The_Tank
    Originally Posted by dave11 View Post

    Hello,

    I am new to affiliate marketing and have recently bought the Rapid Mass Traffic course. Following this course I set up an account with Leadimpact for my paid 'Contextual' traffic and began promoting a product from Clickbank. In two days the product produced over 7000 hits. The problem is that it has not produced one sale.

    I targeted my market by the use of keywords specific to the product. I checked that my affiliate link was copied correctly.

    Could it be that Clickbank products do not accept Contextual traffic?

    Can anyone comment on why I have not received any sales?

    Thanks,
    Dave
    I'm not sure, but I wouldn't buy into a system like that. I think it all has to do with your website/blog, content, and keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author Benhur
    I receive in my email about Rapid Mass Taffic and I dont want those pop-up. It
    just reinforce my belief that this product is not good thru this thread. Thanks
    guys for sharing this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Davy Norton
    Hey in order to get targeted traffic you have to forum post blog post do articles about your product press releases squiddo pages and some social media like facebook and twitter you get alot of trafic this way to your site which is all targeted hope this helps

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author small forward
    Dave it also sounds like you are counting hits as visitors. This is not what you think it is!
    The home page could have several graphics which when loaded will count as a "hit".
    I am suggesting google analytics-you can download for free. What you want to keep track of is your "CTR" or click thru rate and conversions. A decent CTR is 3%.
    You need to put a cap on the click count when "testing" your campaign.
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  • Profile picture of the author majidmaskat
    yeah there is always the confusion of CTR with visitors. Didnt cross your mind that 7000 visitors
    for a marketer is very nice figure?
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  • Profile picture of the author ConnorMcCreesh
    You will find that your traffic is not nearly targeted enough. For the most targeted traffic available you really need to gather email addresses from people interested in your product or are of products. If you use forum marketing to generate a list of 100 or so people you can start to list swap and other joint venture methods.
    Really the best way to go is with product creation not affiliate marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
    My personal opinion on this subject is this...anytime you hear the words "traffic" and "drive" together in the same sentence you can bet that it will be low to no quality. The only source of true targeted traffic is search engines or lists built using squeeze pages that people find using search engines.

    Additionally, if you perform SEO based around a certain "keyword" that you want to rank for because it has a high number of searches per month, you better make darn sure that what your visitors find your content to be relevant to that keyword and not some keyword remotely related to it. Optimizing for the wrong keywords will also drive non-targeted traffic, but non-targeted traffic from search engines in this case. Your bounce rate goes up and your SERP's drop.

    I have found that there are many, many things you can do wrong when building traffic. Targeted traffic is possible, but you have to know what you are doing and if you are using SEO incorrectly, you will be driving non-targeted traffic and wasting your time just the same.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lutz80
    It is hard to say why exactly you are not getting any sales without knowing all the facts.

    But you can get all the traffic on the internet and get no sales if the traffic is not interested or targeted traffic.

    So you want to be sure you are choosing keywords wisely after doing your research and make sure that the traffic you will get from the keyword is interested in what you have to offer.

    That is why so many people lose so much money they do not know exactly what they are doing they just want to send any traffic and thinks that any traffic is good traffic.

    Make sure you test on a small scale and do plenty of research on what you are doing and how to use it to fit your needs to get the best results possible.

    Anyway good luck to you

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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
    If you are going to use PPV, you should be sending your leads to a squeeze page, not to a sales page, especially Clickbank sales pages, and as "LeadImpact" pointed out, not only must you carefully select your keywords, you must track them as well, I check my states every hour or so to keep myself updated in real time.

    It is exceptionally difficult to convert cold leads, you need to capture your leads email address's so that you can build a relationship and gain their trust, then they will follow your recommendations.

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    • Profile picture of the author moonguy
      Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

      If you are going to use PPV, you should be sending your leads to a squeeze page, not to a sales page, especially Clickbank sales pages, and as "LeadImpact" pointed out, not only must you carefully select your keywords, you must track them as well, I check my states every hour or so to keep myself updated in real time.

      It is exceptionally difficult to convert cold leads, you need to capture your leads email address's so that you can build a relationship and gain their trust, then they will follow your recommendations.

      Chris

      the tough thing is to get their email addresses...but how ?
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