So who is the big offline guru?

JayXtreme

14 years ago

Andrew Cavanagh?.....
Maria Gudelis?

I think these two names have been mentioned in the offline arena before

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Tom B Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by JayXtreme

Andrew Cavanagh?.....
Maria Gudelis?

I think these two names have been mentioned in the offline arena before

Jay

Thanks Jay. I know of David Preston as well but thought he was done teaching.

Anyone else? Bueller, Bueller...
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Loren Woirhaye

14 years ago

Well, let's break down the issue:

Q: If you already know how to market online, do you need an
"offline guru" to teach you how to do that?

A: probably not.

Q: what then would you want to know from an "offline guru"?

A: probably how to sell services to businesses.

Q: Like how to sell consulting services?

A: yes, probably.

You might look at Alan Weiss and other author/gurus who specialize
in selling the concept of making a 7-figure income as a consultant.

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Bill Farnham

14 years ago

Jay Abraham?
Clayton Makepeice?
Ferris Bueller?

Are you talking about folks that have produced millions in sales for their offline customers, or who just want to "help set up" an online presence?

Big diff...

~Bill

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Mohammad Afaq

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Bill Farnham

Jay Abraham?
Clayton Makepeice?
Ferris Bueller?

Are you talking about folks that have produced millions in sales for their offline customers, or who just want to "help set up" an online presence?

Big diff...

~Bill

Really big

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Tom B Banned 14 years ago

Thanks everyone.

I am not looking to learn from them. I am working on something else.
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- Bill Farnham 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap
  
  Thanks everyone.
  
  I am not looking to learn from them. I am working on something else.
  
  Oh, then we should include Dr. L. Lee Bosley in that case...:p
  
  ~Bill
  
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  Tom B Banned 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Bill Farnham
  
  Oh, then we should include Dr. L. Lee Bosley in that case...:p
  
  ~Bill
  
  Bill, it takes time for the seeds to grow.
  
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- sdentrepreneur 14 years ago
  
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- Tina Williams 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap
  
  Thanks everyone.
  
  I am not looking to learn from them. I am working on something else.
  
  Hey Thomas--my vote is Maria but besides for that, depending on what type of project you are working on you may want to talk to Maria Gudelis about some of her students. Many of them are out there really doing some amazing things with their Offline Businesses but aren't in the business of teaching online. They often share real "in the trenches" guru tactics on her Success calls. Just a thought. Hope it helps!
  
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  psresearch 14 years ago
  
  Edward Nash's Direct Marketing: Strategy, Planning, and Execution is a great primer to offline marketing (while his section on online marketing even for year 2000 is pretty bad).
  
  Amazon.com: Direct Marketing: Strategy, Planning,...
  It's been recommended by Martin Edelston of Boardroom, Inc. along with many of the
  other big offline direct marketers.
  
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Winson Ng

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Bill Farnham

Jay Abraham?
Clayton Makepeice?
Ferris Bueller?

Are you talking about folks that have produced millions in sales for their offline customers, or who just want to "help set up" an online presence?

Big diff...

~Bill

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Jagged

14 years ago

Are you looking for the biggest....or the best? Like most niches, there usually is a difference....
Are you looking for over all biggest / best, (like a Dan Kennedy or Dan Hollings type) or the biggest / best on the WF?
What aspect of offline marketing are you looking to learn? A to Z or just certain parts like local seo or presenting local seminars? Are you looking for best consulting practice...or hands-on, do it yourself info?

I ask because some excell in certain areas more than other areas....

Beside Andrew Cavanaugh & Maria Gudelis...who are well rounded in all aspects of offline....there is Andrew Patrick (AP)
For more targeted portions of offline there is Scott Gallagher, who excells in local seminars & local seo techniques.....or if your looking for consulting techniques...I'd look up michael hiles...
What are you looking for?

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Fox30

14 years ago

I would say Bob Serling...although his products focus on licensing.

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MichaelHiles

14 years ago

Are we talking mega guys that do corporate-level stuff? Jack Trout?

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Jim Cockrum

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap

I am wondering if anyone knows who is the biggest offline instructor.

The head honcho, the big cheese, the green giant of offline...

Thanks,

Andrew Cavanagh and I are co-founders of OfflineBiz.com - as far as I know it's the largest community of "offline biz" members. We have 6,000 with id's and passwords to our forum and a mailing list of nearly 10,000. There may be bigger out there, but those are our stats.

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Andyhenry

14 years ago

Hey Thomas,

I'm interviewing warriors who work with offline businesses right now.

I have about 12 warriors speaking to me that do this, so there are quite a few around here.

Obviously I do this myself too and have been working with offline businesses for over 7 years, but I wouldn't call myself the big dog or anything so self-centered.

Andrew and Jim do have a great paid membership site and are definitely worth speaking to about this subject (unfortunately Andrew didn't want to be interviewed with the other people I asked as his information is mainly available only to paying customers so he's not included in current research into what people are doing)

Andy

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tyroneshum

14 years ago

How about Scot Chatron? You could look through his profile here:

Scot Chatron

It's great to know these big people.

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Tom B Banned 14 years ago

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Imran Naseem

Banned 14 years ago

Jamie "Gogetta" Garside, his offline products are amazing.

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André Silverspoon

14 years ago

Chris Attwood, Dane Carlson, Brian Keith Voiles? E Joseph Cossman? Dave Del Dotto?

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JayXtreme

14 years ago

ooo....

I just remembered.

Keith Boisvert?

I'm sure he has an offline forum, (localbizbuilder.com..I think?)

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Tom B Banned 14 years ago

Great list guys. Thanks a heaps.
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Steve Peters Benn

14 years ago

Hey Andy,

Pity about Andrew. Would Jay Abraham count?

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owenian1

12 years ago

That is a loaded question
What are you really asking?
Who has posted the most WSO or who gives the best training that help the most people succeed?

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tpw 12 years ago

Originally Posted by owenian1

That is a loaded question
What are you really asking?
Who has posted the most WSO or who gives the best training that help the most people succeed?

LOL

He was asking who teaches offline marketing that he should pay attention to and learn from...

And he was asking that question 18 months ago.
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- Tom B Banned 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by tpw
  
  LOL
  
  He was asking who teaches offline marketing that he should pay attention to and learn from...
  
  And he was asking that question 18 months ago.
  
  It only took him 18 months to figure me out.
  
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- Kal Sallam 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by tpw
  
  LOL
  
  He was asking who teaches offline marketing that he should pay attention to and learn from...
  
  And he was asking that question 18 months ago.
  
  Wow 18 months Lol..Thanks for the laugh!
  
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linebelowdigital

12 years ago

I don't know about the whole Guru thing but Mario Brown from the WF teaches pretty simple, actionable material that I myself have seen great results from.

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Brendan Vraibel

12 years ago

Not sure if this is still relevant or not but I've learned a lot from WillR who I believe works mostly in mobile marketing. Also John Durham is known in the offline section as the go to guy for telemarketing.

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mattlaclear

12 years ago

I think Stephan Schiffman is the man when it comes to drumming up offline business. He's probably the number one cold call trainer in the world.

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bretski 12 years ago

I can't believe that nobody has mentioned Tim Castleman! WTF!

He might not be multimillion etc but his stuff is pretty clever and he's real.

I also like Jamie Garside...

And anyone that says "but these guys are small potatoes compared to Blah Blahblahblahblah", I say, "yeah but my guy still remembers what it was like to be poor".

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sensei majid

12 years ago

Dan kennedy hands down he started as a top notch sales men off line first...He's a grand master of B2B Sales business to business.

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