Hey, Stop Being A Bunch of Pansies!

by Tom B Banned
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Seriously!

I see I hate this and I hate that threads popping up all the time.

Pretty much the norm in this market which is why I have been thinking of getting out of this market.

I can see why a lot of people stop visiting here. This is a great forum and look at what threads get the most views.

The "I hate" threads normally.

There are so many better threads that will actually help you with your business.

Instead of concentrating on the negative (in your mind that is), why not look for ways of learning?

I know it is far easier for you to comment on a "I hate my big toes" thread.

I had to take a break from this forum just because of all the negativity. I came back refreshed with a great outlook.

I am starting to think I better take another break. I love this forum and it has helped me get the life I always dreamed of.

I made some great friends on this forum...

But, I can see why so many people fail just from reading the negativity on here when it comes to being marketed to, the latest launch, long sales copy, videos with no buttons, pop ups when you try to leave and ugly websites.

Really? Is that all you have to say?

I may go back to reading and let the complainers continue with their onslaught of "I hate" threads while I spend time traveling, spend time with friends, walk my new puppy and just continue to enjoy my life.
#bunch #hey #pansies #stop
  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    So Thomas....are you saying you hate pansies?
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      So Thomas....are you saying you hate pansies?
      Sal, you know how I feel about pansies. It all comes from my childhood and being abused by a group of pansies. Now, when I see a pansy, I get cold sweats and roll up in a fetus position.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

        Sal, you know how I feel about pansies. It all comes from my childhood and being abused by a group of pansies. Now, when I see a pansy, I get cold sweats and roll up in a fetus position.

        Then pwn em, Thomas - plant em or sell the little suckers. The world loves to have pansies lining the walks to their mansions.
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        • Profile picture of the author Woody C
          Thomas, I agree.

          *Beginning of rant

          In the past couple of years, as the WF has grown, I have definitely seen the quality of posts go downhill.

          I'll find an informative, helpful post one time I log on and think "Wow, this is a great thread. I'll keep an eye on this." Then, I log back on a few hours later and it is on page 4. When I go back to page one, I see one of three types of posts:

          1. Whining about someone stole something, this product doesn't work, marketers keep marketing to me, whine, whine, whine.

          2. Threads asking "How can I make money with Adsense", "What do you think of this headline?", etc etc. People obviously don't know that there are sub-forums for these types of questions.

          3. Threads with questions that have been answered numerous times before. I know the search function was taken down for a couple of days, but I think people should have to watch a video on how to use it before being allowed to post.

          4. Posts masking as being helpful (and some are), but they are priming for a WSO that is going to make them millions!!!

          I would like to see the WF become more about quality, like it used to be, rather than quantity, which is where we currently stand.

          *End of rant

          To actually add something to this conversation, here is something useful:

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    • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
      I hate those I hate threads.

      Especially I hate those I hate those I hate threads.

      But what I really hate are those I hate those I hate those I hate threads.

      I think I'd rather have a video pop up without controls from an email I clicked on that said "Bad News, I Sent You the Wrong Link About Your Payment Notification" that focuses on 'why I've never been successful or made my first dollar online even though I've been a subscriber for over three years' than read another rantaroony.

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      • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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        Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

        I hate those I hate threads.

        Especially I hate those I hate those I hate threads.

        But what I really hate are those I hate those I hate those I hate threads.

        I think I'd rather have a video pop up without controls from an email I clicked on that said "Bad New, I Sent You the Wrong LInk About Your Payment Notification" that focuses on 'why I've never been successful or made my first dollar online even though I've been a subscriber for over three years' than read another rantaroony.

        ~Bill
        Bill! This isn't a "I hate" thread. This is a pansy thread. Please move along until you can distinguish the two.
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      • Profile picture of the author AllAboutAction
        Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

        I hate those I hate threads.

        Especially I hate those I hate those I hate threads.

        But what I really hate are those I hate those I hate those I hate threads.

        I think I'd rather have a video pop up without controls from an email I clicked on that said "Bad News, I Sent You the Wrong Link About Your Payment Notification" that focuses on 'why I've never been successful or made my first dollar online even though I've been a subscriber for over three years' than read another rantaroony.

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    • Profile picture of the author scrofford
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      So Thomas....are you saying you hate pansies?
      I think pansies are pretty flowers. :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
    Sal, Can to PM me what OP was about?
    I couldn't read it because of the glare. :p

    All I could see was the Subject Title and by that I believe this topic should be
    moved into Home & Gardening section of the forum.

    Have a Great Day!
    Michael

    PS. Thomas, I Agree!
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Originally Posted by Michael Mayo View Post

      Sal, Can to PM me what OP was about?
      I couldn't read it because of the glare. :p

      All I could see was the Subject Title and by that I believe this topic should be
      moved into Home Gardening section of the forum.

      Have a Great Day!
      Michael

      PS. Thomas, I Agree!
      Says the other chrome dome on the forum.
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by Michael Mayo View Post

      Sal, Can to PM me what OP was about?
      I couldn't read it because of the glare. :p

      All I could see was the Subject Title and by that I believe this topic should be
      moved into Home & Gardening section of the forum.

      Have a Great Day!
      Michael

      PS. Thomas, I Agree!
      Gee Mike - I just figured you got confused because it's all SPELLED right instead of phonetically

      So - let's take a positive look at the whiners and turn this thread around.........
      I LOVE it when people whine in the forum. You see all those little links in people's sig files? Well, whether they realize it or not, a LOT of whiners give away the fact they know sh** from Shinola about the programs and products they are promoting, so the rest of us know automatically that their stuff is a waste of time and money -- the result is we don't lose our money or waste our time on the same type of dookey that they are losing their time and money on...now if we can just get em to start posting lists of the products and services they subscribed to that didn't work for them, too we'd all have quite the blueprint. So I was being metaphorical, but those are the types of people that the rich plant their gardens with.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        Maybe we need a rant of the day thread - where everyone could post their latest hissyfit? That way we'd only have one thread to avoid each day.

        I just ranted IN a thread - about a person who is asking the exact questions he asked one year ago....yet another of those "created in 2007" forum name accounts.

        I don't start a thread complaining about a thread - I just get in their face in their own thread. It's funny to see someone angling to get their signature seen - and not seeming to realize their signature reads "please read the sig rules":p Kind of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?

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        • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          Maybe we need a rant of the day thread - where everyone could post their latest hissyfit?

          kay

          haha I love that you said hissyfit. Maybe we can ask Allen for a hissyfit subforum.
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          • Profile picture of the author WritingMadwoman
            Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

            haha I love that you said hissyfit. Maybe we can ask Allen for a hissyfit subforum.
            Ask him if we can also have a "pansy" button; that would spice things up around here.

            I agree with you on the negative threads Thomas. I try to avoid them as much as I can but now and then my morbid curiosity draws me in. Then I wish I hadn't gone in.

            (For the record, I love pansies. They look like little smiling bearded men.



            Is that why you hate them? :p)


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            • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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              Originally Posted by WritingMadwoman View Post


              (For the record, I love pansies. They look like little smiling bearded men.



              Is that why you hate them? :p)


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              • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                My grandmother and I used to pick out favorite "pansy faces" from her garden. I'll always love pansies from those memories.

                Thomas - you're more like a daffodil....or maybe that's daffydil?
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                • Profile picture of the author HeySal
                  Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                  My grandmother and I used to pick out favorite "pansy faces" from her garden. I'll always love pansies from those memories.

                  Thomas - you're more like a daffodil....or maybe that's daffydil?
                  Hmmm - from the context herein, I would have said snap-dragon.
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                • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
                  Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                  I may go back to reading and let the complainers continue with their onslaught of "I hate" threads while I spend time traveling, spend time with friends, walk my new puppy and just continue to enjoy my life.
                  My puppy is cuter than your puppy. ;p

                  Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

                  You see all those little links in people's sig files? Well, whether they realize it or not, a LOT of whiners give away the fact they know sh** from Shinola about the programs and products they are promoting, so the rest of us know automatically that their stuff is a waste of time and money
                  There goes my little secret.

                  Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                  Thomas - you're more like a daffodil....or maybe that's daffydil?
                  Perhaps a daffydilly, or daffydoozy.
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  • Profile picture of the author awbarton222
    I hate this thread
    I hate Thomas Belknap
    I hate people writing I hate "I hate" threads
    Instead of writing threads complaining about "pansies" , just leave.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Originally Posted by awbarton222 View Post

      I hate this thread
      I hate Thomas Belknap
      I hate people writing I hate "I hate" threads
      Instead of writing threads complaining about "pansies" , just leave.
      Great, the ex wife is posting on here.
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      • Profile picture of the author scrofford
        Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

        Great, the ex wife is posting on here.
        I hate my ex wife! lol!
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          Originally Posted by scrofford View Post

          I hate my ex wife! lol!

          Only one? You're just not trying hard enough.
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  • Profile picture of the author camforbes
    speaking of pansies - has anyone seen the late-night infomercial hocking a "survival seed bank" to plant your own veggies in the end of days?

    WTF is that all about?!

    i was up in the middle of the night feeding the baby and almost pissed myself laughing so hard i woke up my wife and the other kiddos.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Originally Posted by camforbes View Post

      speaking of pansies - has anyone seen the late-night infomercial hocking a "survival seed bank" to plant your own veggies in the end of days?

      WTF is that all about?!

      i was up in the middle of the night feeding the baby and almost pissed myself laughing so hard i woke up my wife and the other kiddos.

      I kind of liked the one where you can grow your vegetables from a hanging contraption.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
      Originally Posted by camforbes View Post

      speaking of pansies - has anyone seen the late-night infomercial hocking a "survival seed bank" to plant your own veggies in the end of days?

      WTF is that all about?!

      i was up in the middle of the night feeding the baby and almost pissed myself laughing so hard i woke up my wife and the other kiddos.

      So, pansies are a survival food. If the day comes where I have to grow pansies to survive, please shoot me!
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  • Profile picture of the author LB
    With all the complaints here, you'd think people hated marketing or something.


    Sadly, I'm not trying to be sarcastic.

    I just keep making lots of money with my "hated" sales letters, video (without a stop button), opt-ins, upsells and backends, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary King
    Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

    I had to take a break from this forum just because of all the negativity. I came back refreshed with a great outlook.
    I posted this yesterday as part of my world-wide effort to reduce negativity emissions.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-good-day.html

    Everyone knows that negativity emissions poison pansies, so let's all join together and save the pansies!

    Seriously Thomas is on track folks. It's OK to rant, but try to share positive things too.

    (FWIW, today is pretty good too! Hope yours is also.)
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  • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
    I'm with you, Thomas.

    I've been spending a little less time here lately.

    Not so much with the negativity, although it has been a factor... but mainly because I stopped selling in this niche and I no longer felt the need to study the actions of people this niche.

    And I stopped selling in this niche, because of all the things that you're talking about here, and many more besides...

    I love this forum (as love for forums goes anyway), so I will never stop coming here, but the niche as a whole is a real killer on your mind, sometimes.

    Take a break, Thomas. Enjoy the fields with your new Pup.... And I look forward to seeing you around. You're always a straight talker, I like that kind of input around here!

    Peace

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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

      I'm with you, Thomas.

      I've been spending a little less time here lately.

      Not so much with the negativity, although it has been a factor... but mainly because I stopped selling in this niche and I no longer felt the need to study the actions of people this niche.

      And I stopped selling in this niche, because of all the things that you're talking about here, and many more besides...

      I love this forum (as love for forums goes anyway), so I will never stop coming here, but the niche as a whole is a real killer on your mind, sometimes.

      Take a break, Thomas. Enjoy the fields with your new Pup.... And I look forward to seeing you around. You're always a straight talker, I like that kind of input around here!

      Peace

      Jay

      You got it Jay. I have seriously been thinking about either getting out of this niche or taking a break.

      The products I created can be used in a lot of other niches which I am working on right now.

      Less drama and whinging...

      I do love the customers I have though. Unfortunately, I have had to fire a few in order to keep my sanity. lol

      It is unfortunate because this IM niche needs as many quality products it can get. Why take the hassles when you can make more money with less problems in other markets.

      Right now I am trying to figure out how big I want to get.

      A semi retired 6 figure income or more work, employees and a 7 figure income. I am leaning towards the semi retired part. hehe
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      • Profile picture of the author AllAboutAction
        Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

        A semi retired 6 figure income or more work, employees and a 7 figure income. I am leaning towards the semi retired part. hehe
        I struggle with this all the time as well. Oh wait, you're counting the commas and the dollar sign too, right?
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  • Profile picture of the author Nahar
    I do wish there was a way to hide the negative threads that don't contribute much (I am not saying all negative threads do so but most definitely do).

    I kind of like the way YouTube takes care of unpopular comments. If a few people click on thumb down, the comment is automatically hidden.

    Perhaps we should start using the RATE THREAD option on top of each thread too.
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    I guess I'll go against the grain and decide to love to hate this thread.

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  • Profile picture of the author NickA
    You're spot on here, Tom. But there are so many haters / negative people in every aspect of life, I just figured out a way to give them 0 attention. Of course its harder online cause they keep opening up the threads as you say... best to ignore it really and not even open them, it can depress even the most optimistic of us.
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  • Profile picture of the author Emily Meeks
    For whatever reason, people respond more to negativity than anything else. Stark example - two threads in Mind Warriors, one says "I hate my life" while the other says "I love my life". Which do you think got more views?

    It's a nasty trend in general, is the problem. Why it's so compelling for people, I couldn't tell you, but it is an energy drain that most are probably not even aware of.
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by moneysoapbox View Post

      For whatever reason, people respond more to negativity than anything else. Stark example - two threads in Mind Warriors, one says "I hate my life" while the other says "I love my life". Which do you think got more views?

      It's a nasty trend in general, is the problem. Why it's so compelling for people, I couldn't tell you, but it is an energy drain that most are probably not even aware of.
      That is because the cognitive connections are positive and neutral - negative is "unusual" and therefore catches attention.
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  • Profile picture of the author MaryT
    sorry i'm french, so i typed "pansies definition" and this is what i got

    "The pansy or pansy violets are a large group of hybrid plants cultivated as garden flowers. Pansies are derived from Viola species Viola tricolor ..."

    strange post,, to claim you hate flowers
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      Originally Posted by MaryT View Post

      sorry i'm french, so i typed "pansies definition" and this is what i got

      "The pansy or pansy violets are a large group of hybrid plants cultivated as garden flowers. Pansies are derived from Viola species Viola tricolor ..."

      strange post,, to claim you hate flowers

      I thought you needed to know.
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      • Profile picture of the author Spot the Ball
        Got to agree,

        Negativity does nothing as far as I can see for the soul.

        I tend to not read these kind of threads anymore.

        Maybe sometimes I,ll click in, scan the first few lines then hit the "back" button if it looks like a "I must be the only person alive who,s had a bad day" type of thread.

        Crap, even posting this is peeing me off!

        I want to be surrounded by positivity, its ok if you have a genuine nark but ....... Im out.
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      • Profile picture of the author Marie Pugh
        I know it is far easier for you to comment on a "I hate my big toes" thread.
        But, I really do hate my big toes - well, all my toes really. I have been told that my toes are longer than many people's fingers.......

        Anyway - I agree. It is draining to read those kinds of threads, but for the most part I don't pay attention to them. There are people I follow around here and when they post, I read the posts. But, when I see a post that looks like it is going to drain me, I normally don't know who the poster is anyway, so don't bother to read it.

        I find that the ones I follow are much easier on my mentality
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by MaryT View Post

      sorry i'm french, so i typed "pansies definition" and this is what i got
      A picture of some French people?

      Oh, come on, someone had to say it.

      And before people accuse me of being anti-French, I love mime and find it a tremendously underrated and misunderstood art form. So there.
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  • Profile picture of the author warriorkay
    A popular quote comes to mind here...

    "There are two wolves fighting in every man's heart.
    One is Love; the other, Hate. Which one wins?
    The one you feed the most."


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    I hate shiny foreheads, mankinis, hamsters, and marketers who hate marketing. 'Nuff said.

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  • Profile picture of the author SilentX
    Hmm, this hasn't been my experience at all on this forum. All I see are positive reinforcing statements and things to keep in mind so that you don't give up. Although I do spend the majority of my time in either the mind warriors section or the war room. Maybe that has something to do with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kella Bella
    I hate everything.
    And everyone.

    I would write a post about what I like...................but can't think of anything.......smirks
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  • Profile picture of the author Nathan Rufus
    I love controversy threads.

    They get almost as much views as th "I hate" threads. ;-)

    No seriously, what Thomas is saying is right.

    But the people who read them and then are put off by all the negativity are never going to make it anyway.

    Maybe I'm just stubborn, but there isn't much I can read on here that is going to put me off of quitting my day job and being able to spend more time with Monsters Inc. (my kids)

    Also, when you come on here, you should know what you're looking for and if you're looking for a "I hate" thread, then by golly you're going to find one.

    There is info in here that will take you wherever you want to be!

    If you want to be in the land of negativity, there's "info" for you in here as well.

    Know what you're looking for, and find it!

    Nice one people

    Reach new heights.

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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    I presume you're referring to my video stop button thread as well as others Thomas.

    I'm surprised you viewed it as being a "negative" thread, I posted it as a topic to invite discussion on the subject, (which it did), and very interesting it was as well. I certainly got a lot out of the replies as I'm sure other people did.

    Maybe I should change my approach in future

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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

      I presume you're referring to my video stop button thread as well as others Thomas.

      I'm surprised you viewed it as being a "negative" thread, I posted it as a topic to invite discussion on the subject, (which it did), and very interesting it was as well. I certainly got a lot out of the replies as I'm sure other people did.

      Maybe I should change my approach in future

      Kim

      Kim, that isn't the first time we seen a thread like that. In fact, we have seen quite a few about the no control video sales letters. You were a little slow on that one.

      It is kind of hard not to view that thread as negative since you called it "another moan".

      I have had sex with enough women to know that moaning is a bad thing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
      Originally Posted by Woody Crenshaw View Post


      I think people should have to watch a video on how to use it before being allowed to post.
      That's given me a great idea:

      How about Allen Says puts up one of those squeeze pages with a video showing how to use the forum, without controls (like everyone hates)...

      ...then when the video is done, a simple javascript function pops up the register link.

      BINGO - those who can't stick around, don't get access. Those that do stick around, show that they can tolerate these things in order to get something they truly want...

      ...and maybe, just maybe, they actually watch the video and learn how to conduct themselves for maximum benefit and enjoyment on this life-changing forum at the same time?

      Just a thought. :p
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  • Profile picture of the author raycowie
    So Thomas, are you saying you hate those hate threads (lol)? Me too, if people want to play they should find somewhere else to do it.

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  • Profile picture of the author KarlWarren
    If enough people are moaning and "hating" stuff - there's an opportunity there to make money.

    So, instead of starting an "I hate.........." thread - how about grabbing a pen and notebook and writing down the following:

    Why do I hate.....
    How many other people hate.....
    What are the alternatives.....
    Can I do better.....
    How much would people pay for an alternative....

    etc.

    Hundreds of millionaires have been made by finding opportunities where others find problems.

    Now, get to work
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