Why My 91% Spun Version of My Article Got Declined???

I agree. Nothing personal here either, to each his own and all that, but spun articles are like litter to me. The sooner the article directories stop allowing it the better. YMMV of course.

Thanks for the response. yeah those were my original articles i've written before. i just want to create different versions out of it,and it's almost 100% unique when I spun it.

I have some articles written by a ghostwriter, but of course I don't want to spend money every time i submit an article. what I did was write my own articles, I sometimes hire ghostwriters, and then once I had 40+ original articles, I rewrote some of them, and use a spinning software to spin my original articles to save tons of time.

The big problem is that too many people confuse "unique" with "original".

First of all, unique to the spinners (and Copyscape for that matter) is only referring to the actual wording.

"I will go to the store this afternoon to buy some eggs."

"Later today, I am going to the market to purchase a dozen eggs."

According to DupeFree Pro, these two sentences are completely unique.

That doesn't make the second an original sentence. Original would actually say something different than the first, not merely repackage the same exact ideas and concepts in a different way.

EZA can tell when you are simply repackaging the same content and they reject it because it adds absolutely no value to their readers.

Tina

Thanks for the constructive criticism, i really appreciate your feedback. I might cancel the software and get my $47 refunded back to me 'cause its not helping me at all. I mean, when i tried to spin one of my articles and fix some errors by myself from the spun version, it took me almost the same amount of time rewriting a new article, so might as well rewrite my existing articles by myself in the future, I just need to make sure to change at least 70% of the content.

thanks for the advice. i might just spend money outsourcing. The reason I'm doing this is to build my subscribers list. once i have enough subscribers, I might decrease my article marketing activity and just do some ad swaps to leverage and multiply my subscribers list.

Also for your own sake, I think Google are picking up on this.

So if you are going to spin content you need to start spinning the HTML of the actual article i.e <p>, <br>

Also you need to spin the sentence about 4 - 5 times.

My personal opinion on spinning content is it takes so long to spin one article without a guaranteed indexing from Google.

For the time it takes me to spin one article i can write about 6 or 7.

I understand what you are saying though and may be the best way for you till you get more used to article writing.

Meanwhile, other people don't realize using a tool doesn't automatically mean crap, nor does it prevent the creation of really good content.

I'll never understand why people need to be told this but apparently they do.

I'm sorry but that is a complete lie and generalisation. So all those people using "the best spinner" and other alternatives are wrong? If they didn't work then why would people buy them. I have the best spinner and it works for me!

I'm using MAR because its a one time fee compare to TBS, but TBS is good its just that i dont need all of their features. Im having my articles accepted now, maybe i was just not familiar with the software the 1st time ive used it.

I would never post anything to an article directory or elsewhere for that matter that was not my own. Original content is always the best way to go, because if you dupe someone with an article and they know you do that, then they may assume you might be willing to dupe them in other things.

On another note about Ezine Articles and their submission/rejection process, I am no longer using thier service, as recently I discovered one of my original articles in their directory under another "authors name" and when I submitted a complaint about it, nobody even bothered to contact me. I've never sold any of my original articles, they were strictly written for my own use. And it was pretty sad when it was even stated within the article body that I was Laurie Rogers and that I co-wrote an ebook with Jimmy D. Brown, how could they accept it?

Makes no sense to me, so on that basis, although I can appreciate their traffic, I am not going to compromise my work for it either and won't be using them any longer.

The "stop words list" has been around for ages and it is not designed for filtering or detecting duplicate content. As a matter of fact, the SWL was around before spinning articles existed or became popular.

Any IM engineer will tell you that the "Stop Words List" was created to speed up search results and to save disk space. All search engines use them.

If they didn't, it would not only decrease the speed of the SEs when you perform a search, it would also increase the need for them to have more disk space, it would also make crawling large sites a nightmare; especially the ones with bad grammar.

(1). The question by the OP was why did her articles get declined?

The answer is, (whether you agree with it or not, whether you like it or not) was because she did not spin them properly.

(2). Stop Words Lists and the reason for its existence is not a theory, mines or anyone else's. I challenge you to perform an unbiased and unslanted research on SWL and then come back and tell us its purpose. And site all of your sources.

(3). We get it! You belong to the society of individuals that despise people who spin articles. That's obvious. You really drive the point home in post #50, when you desrcibe yourself as, "Donald Yerke Advanced Expert Article Writer" Again, we get it! You're the expert and people who spin articles are low life's who should be banished into the abyss of mindless IMers. There they shall remain until they learn how to write 45 articles per day from scratch... on thirteen different niches they know nothing about. We get it!

(4). Your obstinate position against spinners is not going to change the fact that EZA publishes tons of spun articles everyday, again, try and get over it!

(5). FACT: When EZA declines an article, all one has to do to get it accepted is to repackage it. Anyone who has had an EZA for the long haul knows this.

(6). You asserted that EZA is, "...programming up ways to detect hundreds of thousands of PLR articles automatically." This is not new information. EZA has being dong this since the PLR purveyors went bonkers.

This is a verbatim e-mail from Christoper Knight dated 5/12/08
This is the natural evolution of our quality focus. Newbie competitor websites with no market credibility would have to offer lots of active self-serving links to make up for having a very low audience profile. Our high-traffic audience profile is the result of years of raising standards frequently. This is just another one of those standards that the time has come to raise.

It's important to differentiate EzineArticles from spammy looking websites (you know exactly who and the type of sites I'm referring to)

That was two years ago. If you actually read the emails from Chris, it's no secret that he is adamantly against PLR content.

Here is another email from Chris, a few months later.

* Repackaging Existing Articles On Your Website Now and Submitting Them To EzineArticles Does NOT Trigger Our Derivative Content Filters

* Rehashing One Article into Many Versions of the Same Article IS Creating Derivative Content...Something We and Our Users Don't Want

* Continue to Write and Submit High-Quality, Unique, Original Articles

* Your Old Existing Articles that Someone has Not Seen Yet... are New to Them!

(7). Like it or not, agree with it or not, the term "Repackaging" can be replaced with "Spinning"

In the incident with the OP, it is most likely that someone swiped her article from her website and posted it EZA before she did. Or, she bought the original article from a source that copied it and sold it to her.

But all of the hoopla against spun content is not going to stop it from coming. When the standards are raised, programmers will write better programs... get over it.

They have tools to tighten the vise... we tools to loosen the vise.

It's all a game and WE play to win!

Hi jrussell,

Just want to clear things out here. I used the spinning software not to cheat, i used it for me to save tons of time because im really busy with my offline business. I used to rewrite my articles by myself, and I just tried to buy some spinning tool for me to save tons of time. But of course, if some sentences are not readable and doesn't sound natural, i put my own words to it and I still do some rewriting just like what im doing before.

Do share your system! And please tell us if the system will work for those who own a large network of article directories that receives and average of 2200 articles per directory.

I got the part about 400 words. But if I'm hearing you correctly, you believe that you have a system that can quickly detect spun articles that easily pass Copyscape and DupreFreePro and are 100% readable.


Christian, its not the spinners; its the users.

I betcha sites like Textbrokers.com and all of the major content providers would tend to disagree with you jrussell. You see, their writers grab content, spin it, rinse it through Copyscape at $.05 a pop and move on to the next article in 5 to 7 minutes flat. That's how content providers can churn out 150 articles comprised of 500 words each on 15 different subjects they know nothing about in less than 72 hours and they all end up on EZA.

Whether anyone disagrees with their business model is a moot point; their clients are laughing all the way to the bank. The reality is - people vehemently disagreed with Bill Gate's business model. They disagreed with WalMart's business model. They disagreed with 7 Eleven's business model... BUT they couldn't stop them, WHY?

One answer; their customers love them!

If you guys and gals want to get a real laugh on how not to spin, take a look at this article:

Just replace the "xo" with "tt"
hxop://www.articlesbase.com/sexuality-articles/male-enhancement-herb-enhancement-enzyte-smiling-bob-commercial-2191706.html

Also check the date on the article...

Of course, this wouldn't have made it past EZA, but I've seen worse in other top tier directories.

DULY NOTE: This was for laughs only people...

Stepping up their level of sophistication? Please explain and site your sources. EZA uses Copyscape and so does GOA and so do most smart Article Marketers.

I can show you a ton of spun articles in both of those directories. They made it past copyscape with flying colors. I realize that its hard for some people to accept but this form of marketing is not going anywhere no matter how much they despise it.

I'm not condoning it; I'm just saying, it's not going anywhere.

If you love sitting down and banging out articles on the keyboard or if you use Naturally Speaking or some other voice diction software, more power to you! Others may not have the patience, desire, writing skills, research skills or the time to do that.

Still others may be true AIMs Aggressive Internet Marketers who have over one hundred live and active websites in their portfolio. To think they are going to sit down and write articles for one hundred or two hundred or three hundred websites is insanely impractical. They are going to outsource! And they are going to outsource to people using Whitesmoke, spinners and the such.

Look at these stats from today on: EZA Expert EzineArticles Author

Sean R Mize 23,620 Articles

Lance Winslow 20,197 Articles

Do you think Sean and Lance wrote those articles? If you do your homework, you'll find that the bulk of those articles in Mize's case are relatively recent. Please tell me that you don't think Mize wrote those?

As far as Lance goes, here is a verbatim statement he made in third person... :confused: scratching my head wondering why he was speaking about himself but wrote...

At any rate, Aggressive Internet Marketers are pushing those same types if numbers and they are doing no writing!

Ok, so you hire someone and they sell you a spun article that passes copyscape and reads great... do you reject the article because they spun it?

Nah! Nobody would ever do that.

Should you spin? Should you not? The answer depends upon where is it that you want to submit.

Are you looking to submit to EZA? If so, forget spinning - EZA is strict and most of the spin-generated content is going to be captured. And this is what has happened to the OP in this case.

Are you submitting in most other article directories? Go ahead! Spinning would most likely be enough.

So, messaage to the OP - if you want to make your work easier by spinning articles, do so by all means but not for your EZA efforts. If you want to spin then:

1. Submit your original hand-written article to EZA. If you find this too difficult to write for whatever reason then simply outsource. Don't risk your EZA account.
2. Now, spin it.
3. Finally submit your spun version to most other article directories leaving out EZA. There may be one or two article directories that may reject (not too likely to get many rejections because of duplicate article issues though it may still be difficult for you from the grammar point that your spinned may generate) but in general your article will be accepted.

The real question is why are you spinning? I never spin to create content for my own sites, or for directories like EZA. However I DO spin to get backlinks! Obviously a well spun article will provide you a lot more backlinks faster than many well written articles all done by hand!

However, I don't submit garbage spun articles. I am always very careful when spinning that the spun articles make sense to the reader!