A Newcomer/Newbie with a dream... but needs help!

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Dear Warriors,

In the past several years, my wife and I have spent a pretty penny on different programs, products, etc... all in the effort to find our niche in the IM world. However, all we ended up discovering is that there are soooo many choices, and soooo much info, that we became overwhelmed and realized that all we were doing was heading into the "buy the next best thing" mentality.

When we realized that our money was just being spent on this product, or that service, etc. we put a complete halt to our efforts and took some much needed time off in order to reflect. During this time we bought our first house (right before the market crash), and have been dealing with the after-effects of that.

We've finally reached a point in our lives where we are stable and secure, as we both have very stable 9-5ers. However, we are not satisfied working for "the man" as I'm sure many people aren't. Thus, we have begun to feel as though we would like to try out luck in the IM world again! But this time, we want to do it right!

And so, for us, we have reached a conclusion that we want to approach this thing as COMPLETE and UTTER newcomers/newbies to this great world of Internet Marketing! And what that means to us is that we don't want to go out spending money on "the next best thing" (the next best program or service that will guarantee our success)... Instead, we want to find a true legitimate MENTOR!

But, of course, the question came up... "Knowing there is just soooo many choices and soooo much info out there, where do we even begin to look?" And the first thing that popped into my head was The Warrior Forum! (And I tend to trust my instincts.) I've lurked here a few times in the past, but never became involved. So, now is the time for change!

Currently my wife and I bring in about $115k annually from our brick-n-mortar careers. My wife works in a hospital, and I work for a company that deals with construction/labor laws. We both have annual raises, and great benefits. So, as I said, we are both stable as it stands. However, my wife actually works night shifts from 7pm-7am (3-4days a week), while I work 8am-4pm (Mon.-Fri.) So our current schedules make it so that we are constantly working opposite hours from each other, which affords us only a few hours a day together. This is what we want to work hard in order to change!

Now, I realize everything I've written thus far is just a brief history, and doesn't get to the meat and potatoes of why I am posting here today, so let me dive right into my wife's and my dream.....

Right now, our dream is to, at the VERY minimum, supplement our income and get us both working AT HOME! This is our initial goal, and is what we have every intention on doing whatever it takes in order to achieve! Then, once that goal is reached, the sky will be the limit!

But this is where we HOPE the Warrior forum has been the right choice in coming to for help! As I said a second ago, we want to approach the IM world basically as COMPLETE newbies! And what I mean by this is that while both my wife and I DO have quite a bit of IM info/research under our belts, most of that research came about several years ago, and it didn't amount to much (mostly just spending/losing some money here and there). We're not upset by this, but we know we can do better!

So our goal by coming onto this forum is to approach the "IM gurus" out there (and we consider you a guru if you have achieved a self-sufficient lifestyle, where you work from home and can maintain that easily!), and to ask ANY one of you... to ask ALL of you... this question::

Where do we begin?

We are of the mindset that if need-be, we would rather find someone we could pay as our MENTOR, so that we could be taught the "ropes" of the trade from someone who has done it and is successful with it! I mean, in the beginning we were trying to do everything on our own, and we found that all we were doing was overwhelming ourselves with information and choices. Thus, now we want to find someone that can actually, in a sense, take us by the hand and teach us properly. We've always heard that its best to not reinvent the wheel, but to copy someone who has already done it and achieved success!

So that is our stance currently! This is our first post here in the warrior forum, and we hope we aren't given too much of a hard time for posting this. We understand that we aren't alone in what we seek; that there are plenty of others out there exactly like us... but we feel that just taking this initial step in letting the IM world know our desires, HOPEFULLY it manifests some responses that can lead us further into our journey!

Anyways, I will end here, and just say that... if YOU, personally, are someone that feels you can offer us a type of mentor-ship, or anything of that type of nature, we would LOVE to hear from you! Any further details would be worked out as we progress... so as it stands we're just throwing out a line and seeing what we catch (so to speak).

Please also note, that at this time we're not all that interested in hearing about "this product" or "this service" that will teach us the tricks of the trade, but that we are in search for REAL people that would actually be willing to work with us on a personal level of some sort!

Thank you ALL for your time! And much love to you all!
~G&T
#dream #newcomer or newbie
  • Profile picture of the author DannyCee
    Hi, first of all you need to read around the forums for advice and tips. If I was new to the internet marketing game, I would head over to the WSO section and find a couple with very good reviews, read them then actually DO what they tell you.

    You won't make money by just reading, you must not become lazy and just read around, you have to take action.

    You need to find a method that is proven to work, implement it, do it again and again and keep motivated!

    Good Luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Grable
    Originally Posted by TheCosmicChameleon View Post


    ...COMPLETE newbies!
    Well... okay... but... After your previous foray into IM do you have any residual resources remaining? No... not money! I'm thinking more about domain names, inactive websites, hosting accounts, tools.... (autoresponders, keyword analysis programs, graphics editing apps, etc...) Know what I mean?

    Also, it might be helpful if you told us what kind of skills you have... Are either of you writers? Artists? Web developers, etc... at any level of experience?

    Cheers,
    chris
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    • Originally Posted by Chris Grable View Post

      Well... okay... but... After your previous foray into IM do you have any residual resources remaining? No... not money! I'm thinking more about domain names, inactive websites, hosting accounts, tools.... (autoresponders, keyword analysis programs, graphics editing apps, etc...) Know what I mean?

      Also, it might be helpful if you told us what kind of skills you have... Are either of you writers? Artists? Web developers, etc... at any level of experience?

      Cheers,
      chris
      Hey Chris,

      I would say that we have a LOT of programs we bought into, and so all that information is "sitting on the shelf" so to speak; and there is quite a bit of it (I'd just have to go thru it all and see what we have aquired over the years). And we also have a domain name that we haven't done anything with, as well as a business license in our town, which have not done anything with either.

      As for skills... I'd have to say not so much. I mean, we both come from a musical background, but that's about it. We were both singers and played instruments. I also do some DJing as a hobby. But that isn't really a skill to be applied to an IM venture, so to speak.

      So that is why we consider ourselves newbies again.
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      • Profile picture of the author wookiejazz
        you may have a "How to DJ...effectively" eBook hidden inside you. Think outside the box, Maybe do a tried and tested list of skills and things you already feel a level of expertise in. Boring, I know but it might help. I've been at it for a good few months proper now, but things are starting to gel into place. Best of luck for your second visit down the IM rabbit-hole.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jamian
    Finding a good mentor is hard but I know some good mentors if you're serious i can arrange a meeting between you guys.

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    • Originally Posted by Jamian View Post

      Finding a good mentor is hard but I know some good mentors if you're serious i can range a meeting between you guys.

      Jamian.
      Yes, we are very serious. If you know mentors that might be willing to speak with us and give us a run down on what they could offer us, so that we can make an educated decision on what they offer and if it's the path we'd like to proceed down... then please PM me, as I'd love to set something up!
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      • Profile picture of the author ChrisGuthrie
        I don't think you should pay for a mentor. There is plenty of free information around on the internet and on this forum.

        Personally, I'm really good at earning money with Amazon's affiliate program (see thread in my signature) ask questions about Amazon there if you have any. I answer them once a day (as there seem to be a lot).

        I have done this by building websites that people want to visit and learn information from / help decide on which product to buy.

        It sounds to me based on reading your story that you're looking for a magic bullet and having been in your shoes before (minus buying products) I have tried to make money in a variety of different ways until coming across what I do now (Amazon).

        I think the point I'm trying to make is that if you really want to make money online you should take one of the passions that either of you have and develop a website around that passion. Obviously this helps if your passion happens to be in a high paying niche (I don't recommend starting a website on butterfly observation).
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        • Originally Posted by ChrisGuthrie View Post

          "It sounds to me based on reading your story that you're looking for a magic bullet..."
          Not necessarily. We understand that there is no magic bullet, but we also realize that there is soooo much information out there and soooo many different ways to make money, that we don't really want to have to choose a way of our own...

          I mean you said...

          Originally Posted by ChrisGuthrie View Post

          I think the point I'm trying to make is that if you really want to make money online you should take one of the passions that either of you have and develop a website around that passion. Obviously this helps if your passion happens to be in a high paying niche (I don't recommend starting a website on butterfly observation).
          And that's just the thing, our passion is watching movies, playing video games, and for me spinning trance records (as a hobby). These are not passions that translate all that well into the IM world (that I am aware of). So as far as passion is concerned, we are wide open to where we could place our passion within the IM world...

          And what better way, than to find someone who knows what they are doing, love what they are doing, is successful at what they are doing, who would actually be interested in helping someone else get to the point they are at?

          Going out and reading information got us no where in the past. There is just so much of it that we want to do it all! And that's not feasible. So, we'd rather find someone who does one, maybe two, things WELL and follow in their footsteps...

          We're just wondering if there is anyone out there that fits that description, who is actually willing to spend some of their time with us in teaching us their methods...?

          So no, we're not looking for a magic bullet, per say. But in a sense we are! I mean, you said that your magic bullet is Amazon. And while you may have reached your current point of success with it COMPLETELY on your own, by doing research... what is so wrong with being the type that wants a "teacher" as opposed to just getting the reading material and doing it self-taught?

          Isn't that what schools are? A way for people to learn new skills by being taught by someone who already knows the info/skills? ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    IM is a huge field. You didn't say what you are interested in learning. Do you want to develop and sell your own products? Do you want to market affiliate products? Start a membership site? You really need to narrow down what you are interested in before finding a mentor. For example, if you want to learn PPC, getting a mentor whose expertise is in site flipping isn't the best match.
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    • Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      IM is a huge field. You didn't say what you are interested in learning. Do you want to develop and sell your own products? Do you want to market affiliate products? Start a membership site? You really need to narrow down what you are interested in before finding a mentor. For example, if you want to learn PPC, getting a mentor whose expertise is in site flipping isn't the best match.
      And this is why I wanted to first start out with the basic post, so that others would come in a chime in, and the details would begin to be whittled down... so thank you for bringing this up, because you are quite correct!

      As it stands currently, my wife and I have interests in three distinct things... Ebay selling / Affiliate Product Selling / and Selling our own products (thru ebay or our own site).

      As it stands for Ebay selling, we feel that this may be something we begin at the point when we can get out of our normal jobs, as we see that it could, in and of itself, take a lot of work. Thus, unless someone knows how to build a lucrative ebay business that can run decently semi-automatically, then we may hold off on this idea until further notice. But if someone DOES have the expertise in this, please contact us!

      As for selling products... Right now we do not have a product of our own. As a hobby of mine is DJing, I could in time start recording mixes and selling them on CDs. But I don't have anything recorded right now.... Thus, that would come down to selling affiliate products.

      We tried PPC a while back, but found that that is just too much work and too much "math" (so to speak) for us. So, we feel that affiliate marketing seems to be an easier route to take, at least for beginners like us... would you all agree?

      And so, to get right down to it... we could say we're quite interested in Affiliate Marketing! Unless any of you feel there is a better/faster/more lucrative IM venture that would be suited for us (being newbies).

      :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author AwesomePossum
    Build an information business...find a mentor....even if he doesn't coach you personally.

    My mentors are Frank Kern & Eben Pagan...I haven't met either one of them but they set up their products in a way that delivers...monthly courses, etc..

    Also...there's this guy I'm interested in but he just doesn't fit right into my business...I'll just be growing too fast for it to work this year...next year I'm going to set up outsourcing around this guy's business structure...

    GreatInternetMarketingTraining.com

    And I'm building a blog for fun...Yaro Starak makes six digits off of blogging at a few hours a day...once I understand the ins and outs of blogging like him...I'll be completely outsourcing these 100K/year blogs...OH!

    That brings into mind...outsourcing. Honestly...you have enough money to do this!!

    OK, I recommend outsourcing to you guys...you don't need to learn how to build a business..you can hire people to do it...

    Check out Jeff Mills...John Reese has a product that was just launched and knowing John it's goo...I'm not sure if it's sold out or not though.

    Other than that...like you mentioned. Buy one product, go all the way through it and APPLY all the things you learned...actually get out there and do it.

    If you don't implement you have no choice but to fail. It's law. ; )

    Aaryn
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    • Originally Posted by AwesomePossum View Post

      ......Other than that...like you mentioned. Buy one product, go all the way through it and APPLY all the things you learned...actually get out there and do it.

      If you don't implement you have no choice but to fail. It's law. ; )

      Aaryn
      Thanks Aaryn! All your info is appreciated!

      Now, one question I would have is this... You have a method that is all your own, I'm sure. Something that is working for you... yes? And if so, is it lucrative? Is it working?

      And if yes to all these... would you teach it to someone like us? And if so, how much might you charge?

      These are the types of things we're interested in. I understand getting a product and going all the way thru it. But I'd much rather find the person behind the product and have them teach me personally... Or if I can't get these top-name guys, then finding someone who has already done so, and achieved success to teach me the ins and outs... that way, some of the guess work is already taken out of the equation.

      So, we're curious to meet someone like you, who is already successful with what they are doing... and IN A SENSE, copying you. Now I say "in a sense" because I know it would not be letter-for-letter/word-for-word type of copying... but just getting a run down and lessons from those already successful. :-)
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      • Profile picture of the author AwesomePossum
        Originally Posted by TheCosmicChameleon View Post

        Thanks Aaryn! All your info is appreciated!

        Now, one question I would have is this... You have a method that is all your own, I'm sure. Something that is working for you... yes? And if so, is it lucrative? Is it working?

        And if yes to all these... would you teach it to someone like us? And if so, how much might you charge?

        These are the types of things we're interested in. I understand getting a product and going all the way thru it. But I'd much rather find the person behind the product and have them teach me personally... Or if I can't get these top-name guys, then finding someone who has already done so, and achieved success to teach me the ins and outs... that way, some of the guess work is already taken out of the equation.

        So, we're curious to meet someone like you, who is already successful with what they are doing... and IN A SENSE, copying you. Now I say "in a sense" because I know it would not be letter-for-letter/word-for-word type of copying... but just getting a run down and lessons from those already successful. :-)
        This is an incredibly interesting situation...can you PM? If not we can talk it out over the forum.
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        • Originally Posted by AwesomePossum View Post

          This is an incredibly interesting situation...can you PM? If not we can talk it out over the forum.
          I can't PM in here yet... I'm probably going to pay for the membership though! But until then, I could give you my email address, and we could talk thru email?

          [Deleted]

          I'll just delete my email from the post (for privacy reasons) when/if you email me.

          Would this work? :-)
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          • Profile picture of the author AwesomePossum
            Originally Posted by TheCosmicChameleon View Post

            I can't PM in here yet... I'm probably going to pay for the membership though! But until then, I could give you my email address, and we could talk thru email?

            TheCosmicChameleon [at] Gmail

            I'll just delete my email from the post (for privacy reasons) when/if you email me.

            Would this work? :-)
            Yeah Definitely...I just stored you in my gmail...

            Just One quesiton...

            Are you willing to learn material from other people?

            That's the way I'll be teaching you...you'll see how cool this is later. But you have to be willing to go through other products at a certain pace...we'll be working out the details according to your schedule...but we have to keep a certain pace or I won't be interested...

            You won't be "copying" all of my methods exactly though...just a warning. My way's way more entertaining and it works better than copying.
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            • Originally Posted by AwesomePossum View Post

              Yeah Definitely...I just stored you in my gmail...

              Just One quesiton...

              Are you willing to learn material from other people?

              That's the way I'll be teaching you...you'll see how cool this is later. But you have to be willing to go through other products at a certain pace...we'll be working out the details according to your schedule...but we have to keep a certain pace or I won't be interested...

              You won't be "copying" all of my methods exactly though...just a warning. My way's way more entertaining and it works better than copying.
              Will reply to your email! ;-)
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  • I should add that i DO understand how it may SEEM that I am trying to skip out on working hard, or that I am trying to find that "magic bullet." In fact, I understand that where we're coming from is not at all different from most people who are just starting out...

    But, that is not at all what we're about here. We understand that even if we found the perfect mentor/teacher (which we hope to do) that they are not going to do everything for us... In fact, we don't want that in the slightest bit! We WANT to do the work, so that in the end we are equip with the knowledge and know-how to do it again and again! But what we don't want is some of that guess-work that can go into getting to that point of doing it again and again. And we feel that a knowledgeable individual willing to teach us, is the best way to get rid of some of that trail and error. Am I not correct in this?


    Oh and Aaryn brought up a great point when he said...
    Originally Posted by AwesomePossum View Post

    That brings into mind...outsourcing. Honestly...you have enough money to do this!!

    OK, I recommend outsourcing to you guys...you don't need to learn how to build a business..you can hire people to do it...
    We know all about WHAT outsourcing is, and in fact, this might be the type of thing we'd want to start doing. Outsourcing everything. Building a IM business that is, in a sense, built by others! (i.e. by outsourcing everything!)

    But then, we'd need to know where to spend our money, what to outsource, etc. And that is where, we'd hope, a mentor could help.

    As you can see, we have ideas about what we would like to start heading into. But it's just the "where do we start" that stops us, because there IS truly sooooo many possible starting points.

    So, who will be willing to sit down with us and show us THEIR idea of a good starting point? Thats what we're interested in! ;-)
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