Is This OTO System Even Possible?

14 years ago

Hey Steven,

I don't know what script you're using BUT some scripts do what you need.

It must exist a interaction between the opt-in (to check date/time) and the script (to mark a 24 hours period on *that* link).

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petelta

14 years ago

Have you talked with any script programmers? I have dabbled with programming scripts and the way I would see best to do it would every single opt in would be assigned a random generated id#. Then the 24 hour rules would apply to that id#. You could set up the id# to be per IP too.

I know I've seen something similar to this before. Give me a little bit to go through my affiliates pages and see if it's one of them that offers this.

Travis

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Floyd Fisher

14 years ago

Originally Posted by petelta

Have you talked with any script programmers? I have dabbled with programming scripts and the way I would see best to do it would every single opt in would be assigned a random generated id#. Then the 24 hour rules would apply to that id#. You could set up the id# to be per IP too.

I know I've seen something similar to this before. Give me a little bit to go through my affiliates pages and see if it's one of them that offers this.

Travis

Travis:

What is to stop a person from signing on with a different email address, and getting back to the OTO discount?

Such a system needs to be cookie based. All you need is a cookie placed on the visiting computer with a timestamp imprinted in it that never expires. When the visitor returns, the timestamp is checked against the local time on the server. If the difference between the timestamp and the server time exceeds 24 hours, you are taken to a different page.

If someone can create that script (with a twist so I can set for myself how long the offer lasts), I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

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Zach Booker

14 years ago

Yeah, bro. I have something similar (but not quite the same).

Go to oDesk and open up a job explaining, just like you did above, what you need.

You'll get 50+ people all wanting the job within a few hours.

I'm about as tech savvy as you so can't give you an exact cost. But make the budget of your project a hundred or two and you'll get some US, Canadaian or UK people bidding on your project.

Interview a few, pick someone, and it'll be done in a few hours to a few days.

If no one domestic bids I have my best luck, with programmers, from Eastern Europe and the Philipeans. Both usually know English very well and are easy to communicate your goals with.

I actually just put up a job there yesterday (expecting it to cost $300) and got a guy from Cali who whipped it up in PHP in a few hours and it's better than I could've ever expected and it cost $80.

Good luck,

Zach

EDIT: if you want any more info, or want the programmer I used yesterday who is a great guy, just PM me. :-)

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JayXtreme

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

As you know, I am a technical dunce, so trying to figure out this stuff is
like brain surgery for me.

Anyway, here is what I want to do.

Subscriber joins my list through whatever free report I'm giving away.

In the first welcome email I send, I include a link where they can get a
certain product at a discount and it will only be good for 24 hours. If they
don't purchase within the time the subscribe and open that email, the link
in the email goes dead.

Now, this is hard enough for me to even comprehend for one person. But
this chain goes on forever as I keep getting opt ins every single day.

And everybody gets the same link.

So is this possible or am I out of luck?

I've tried to think of every way possible to pull this off but I'm coming
up empty.

Any suggestions of should I just pack this one in?

It is definitely possible..

Find a coder, and they'll do this no problem. The script we use is in-house, so I don't know if anything is out on the market right now... but it's an easy code.

Jay

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jjpmarketing

14 years ago

I believe Butterfly Marketing, DLGuard, Delavo, AMember, Nanacast, etc. all offer some variation of the expiring download link. However, I do not know if any of them offer an expiring OTO link.

You may also want to look into Memberspeed.

Your best option is to get a custom programmer to write you a script that manages all of these expiring OTO's for you. Better yet, since Butterfly Marketing is now open source, you might want to get someone to just tweak that script a little to implement a plugin for the script that adds this functionality.

Hope that helps.

Dennis

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Josh Anderson

14 years ago

Since you were not sure in your reply (quoted below) whether you could accomplish it with Nanacast I wanted to clarify and say Yes, in fact you can.

The methodology would not be done via our upsell function though it would be accomplished using a combination of expiring thank you pages or bonus thank you pages and/or expiring episode pages to achieve exactly what the OP is seeking.

Originally Posted by jjpmarketing

I believe Butterfly Marketing, DLGuard, Delavo, AMember, Nanacast, etc. all offer some variation of the expiring download link. However, I do not know if any of them offer an expiring OTO link.

You may also want to look into Memberspeed.

Your best option is to get a custom programmer to write you a script that manages all of these expiring OTO's for you. Better yet, since Butterfly Marketing is now open source, you might want to get someone to just tweak that script a little to implement a plugin for the script that adds this functionality.

Hope that helps.

Dennis

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Johnny

14 years ago

>>> In the first welcome email I send, I include a link where they can get a
certain product at a discount and it will only be good for 24 hours. If they
don't purchase within the time the subscribe and open that email, the link
in the email goes dead.

Technically, the easiest way to track is using cookie. This will not be 100 percent accuracy as some users do not turn on browser cookie, but frankly this is not so critical

This is very simple to implement. Less than an hour work for programmer.

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jjpmarketing 14 years ago

@Loren

Thanks. I had forgotten all about that feature. Just started using it a couple of weeks ago. Very powerful script.

Dennis
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Cass Tyson

14 years ago

I'd lay odds that if you're talking about a non-IM niche, you can just say it expires and nobody will ever check. Why spend the money on a script when just saying it exists will be enough?

And if someone DOES come back after 24 hours and click the link, and they get to your OTO page, they'll think they've gamed the system. So if they buy, they'll feel like like they've gotten over on you, and they'll never ask for a refund for fear they'll be found out.

Sounds like a win-win to me. You save money on the script on the front end. Most people will never question you, but if/when one does, you still make the sale. PLUS you've got a stickier than usual customer on your list.

You're welcome.

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Emily Meeks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by cassman

I'd lay odds that if you're talking about a non-IM niche, you can just say it expires and nobody will ever check. Why spend the money on a script when just saying it exists will be enough?

And if someone DOES come back after 24 hours and click the link, and they get to your OTO page, they'll think they've gamed the system. So if they buy, they'll feel like like they've gotten over on you, and they'll never ask for a refund for fear they'll be found out.

Sounds like a win-win to me. You save money on the script on the front end. Most people will never question you, but if/when one does, you still make the sale. PLUS you've got a stickier than usual customer on your list.

You're welcome.

Yes, and all one has to do is put a cheap little script that reflects whatever today's date is and say, "This discount is available only TODAY, Tuesday, May 25, 2010", then the person comes back a month later and finds that only the date has changed...

How cheap is that? If your customers ever decide to test it, do you really want someone to think you're "cheap"?

NO thank you.

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tresfavian

14 years ago

Here you go Steve, this website gives a free basic OTO script then a better advanced OTO script for $7. I have no affiliate connection to this.
Free One-Time Offer Script
The advanced uses the person's ISP and has a built in timer you set the countdown. Hope this helps.

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Steve Ranger

14 years ago

Originally Posted by tresfavian

Here you go Steve, this website gives a free basic OTO script then a better advanced OTO script for $7. I have no affiliate connection to this.
Free One-Time Offer Script
The advanced uses the person's ISP and has a built in timer you set the countdown. Hope this helps.

The advanced one is free as well - you just need to enter your e-mail address. That works on IP addresses though, and just lets the viewer see the page once and once only, rather than numerous times over 24 hours.

The one he wants is this one: http://products.djt-engineer.co.uk/l...-offer-script/

Which is $27 and looks like it does everything (including the countdown feature). And, of course, it's that price for 24 hours! Typical!