Niches w/low competition and minimal searches

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I'm curious to know your thoughts. I've found several specific nitches, as I research the keywords I see a couple of basic things. The typical local searches range between 3-10k, and the competition is low w/less than 100k in google results.

Is it a wise idea to use junk PLR in specific nitches, and use the "zombie blogging method" as a means of generating clicks and sales?

Thoughts
#competition #keywords #minimal #minimal yield #niches #searches #w or low
  • Profile picture of the author joetheseo
    3-10k....... daily or monthly?
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    • Profile picture of the author Curtez Riggs
      That is per month.
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      • Profile picture of the author joetheseo
        Eh... Well I mean it depends on comp. intitle comp... How easy can you penetrate the market? Can you get an exact domain?

        What we call a "super sniper" is something like 30k comp and around that around of searches.

        If you can get on top in like a week or so, then ya do it ... But otherwise probably not even worth testing at this point.

        If you want me to help you more, what's the comp and intitle comp on the keyword in question?
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        • Profile picture of the author butters
          Originally Posted by joecrupie View Post

          What we call a "super sniper" is something like 30k comp
          Same again, stop offering this advice, it is frickin worthless and miss guides newbies.
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          • Profile picture of the author joetheseo
            Originally Posted by butters View Post

            Same again, stop offering this advice, it is frickin worthless and miss guides newbies.
            I really hope you're joking... An exact domain with a 30k comp keyword is going to rank in only days with almost 0 links.

            I've made plenty of sales from these sites... I'm sorry, don't use my advice.. So I can keep making money from it.

            The truth is either you're going for a BIG keyword and hoping it's going to produce results, or you're going to be working a lot making little sites.

            EITHER way the outcome is EVENTUALLY the same.
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            • Profile picture of the author butters
              Originally Posted by joecrupie View Post

              I really hope you're joking... An exact domain with a 30k comp keyword is going to rank in only days with almost 0 links.

              I've made plenty of sales from these sites... I'm sorry, don't use my advice.. So I can keep making money from it.

              The truth is either you're going for a BIG keyword and hoping it's going to produce results, or you're going to be working a lot making little sites.

              EITHER way the outcome is EVENTUALLY the same.
              Look, do what you want to do but don't give advice which doesn't work... If you want to go into any niche, you look at what makes a site rank so well, so the on page SEO, off page SEO, domain age etc... Not how many sites are in there search engine...
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              • Profile picture of the author joetheseo
                Originally Posted by butters View Post

                Look, do what you want to do but don't give advice which doesn't work... If you want to go into any niche, you look at what makes a site rank so well, so the on page SEO, off page SEO, domain age etc... Not how many sites are in there search engine...
                We both know that there's a variable for almost EVERY situation in SEO. The truth is that it depends on HOW GOOD YOU ARE at SEO , both on page and off page to have true success.

                Regardless of the keyword, it's YOUR setup that will make the difference.
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                • Profile picture of the author butters
                  Originally Posted by joecrupie View Post

                  We both know that there's a variable for almost EVERY situation in SEO. The truth is that it depends on HOW GOOD YOU ARE at SEO , both on page and off page to have true success.

                  Regardless of the keyword, it's YOUR setup that will make the difference.
                  I agree but google search results isn't part of that set up... It is a worthless number.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Curtez Riggs
                    ty guys for the responses. Here's a example.... Hard to find one without giving away the exact one im considering....

                    Navy discharge....
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                  • Profile picture of the author joetheseo
                    Originally Posted by butters View Post

                    I agree but google search results isn't part of that set up... It is a worthless number.

                    The VERY first filter my keywords go through is the Google Comp and Intitle numbers....

                    So last week for example,

                    we setup an exact domain on a

                    60,000 comp
                    30,000 intitle keyword

                    and also an exact domain with

                    37,000 comp
                    6,000 intitle keyword

                    Ok, without even LOOKING at the competition on these keywords, we quickly put them up.

                    The exact domain on the 37,000 , 6,000 intitle keyword was RANKED 1 within only 3 days of being up, before EVEN 1 LINK was counted!

                    The 60,000 comp domain still struggles to get on top even after link building.

                    Both sites have proper on page SEO.

                    As they say, the proof is in the pudding.

                    P.S. Of course larger searched, larger competition keywords need to be analyzed with all tools available before going for them...
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                    • Profile picture of the author butters
                      Originally Posted by joecrupie View Post

                      As they say, the proof is in the pudding.
                      You clearly don't understand keyword research... Google search results have 0 do with ranking or knowing if a keyword is good or not. The search results are normally wrong for a start and normally give a number of 50k when really there is only 900, thats how accurate they are. How can a figure which isn't even accurate be accurate for ranking, it can't.

                      You said the results of 2 sites, different niches for a start or atleast different keywords. That means the competition was completely different for each keyword and one could of easily been an untapped market and on could of been highly competitive.

                      It is a fact that you don't look at the competition results because your not competing against 100000 or 10000000, you are competing against the first page of google and that is why you do relevant keyword research and not look at how many sites used the word randomly, even though the site has nothing to do with the actual niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author butters
    Originally Posted by soldierscredit View Post

    and the competition is low w/less than 100k in google results.
    I don't know where this miss conception comes from but google results mean NOTHING, they are actually worthless... This is not an accurate way to judge if a niche is competitive or not. I have found great keywords, 20k results but the competition was insane, please don't ever use that as a way to tell if a niche is competitive or not.
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    • Profile picture of the author joetheseo
      ... All keywords have to be passed through the proper filter.

      But let's not make this harder then it has to be...

      It's very easy to tell if you can penetrate a market or not.
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      • Profile picture of the author butters
        Originally Posted by joecrupie View Post

        ... All keywords have to be passed through the proper filter.

        But let's not make this harder then it has to be...

        It's very easy to tell if you can penetrate a market or not.
        Dude, all keywords have to be passed through a filter which works... Google results doesn't work, fact...
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        • Profile picture of the author joetheseo
          Originally Posted by butters View Post

          Dude, all keywords have to be passed through a filter which works... Google results doesn't work, fact...
          Really? I've seen PR0 exact domains rank over PR3+ sites very fast in under 30k comp and low intitle.

          I agree that you should check your competitors backlinks or at least run the term through FREE Traffic Travis, but honestly.... If you can afford the domains, just go for it.

          Other things to look for...

          In title
          Description
          Exact domain in top 10?
          H1 with Keyword on their site?

          It's really easy to see all these things by simply going to your competitor's site and using the "Chrome SEO" extension that can be downloaded for free.
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    You both make some good arguments...

    Not trying to be neutral, but I have seen both cases...

    However, my results really rely on having the exact match keyword. Without it, I agree with butters, in some cases, just using google results doesn't work, but then again, I agree with joe, cause recently, I crumbled a 8,000 searched per month, 120,000 competing results, beat Macy's, Sears, and other high ranked sites....

    I had exact keyword match in the domain name.
    146 backlinks
    High Page Rank Inbound Links

    I outsourced the backlinking, bought the links, --- cost $150

    The "one" site makes me, $160 per month.

    However, the market I'm in buys, the keyword I own happens to be a buying mentality keyword, so everything is just working right in this case. I'm converting low... which I think has to do with the copy.

    but it's not terrible advice
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