Why did we get NO Response? ;(

by TheVCF
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Dear Fellow Warriors,

Why did we get NO Response to our Warrior Special Offer (WSO)? Posted (and now expired) at:

http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...andidates.html

We were previously advised herein that we could not Ask about what was wrong with this WSO until after it was expired/done, which it now is, so ...

What is wrong with this WSO?

... Such that we got No Responses to it

Do None of our Fellow Warriors have Any Jobs (/Job Ads) to Post?

Are you Posting Your Job Ads somewhere else / better?
And if so, where?

Or is it just that the "sales copy" for this WSO not sufficiently convey the Benefits of this WSO and/or why this WSO was a Great Deal for you all?

Please let us know:
1)If a Job Board / Posting WSO is even Worth Posting herein or Not?
2)If so, how may we improve the "sales copy" for this WSO so that it sufficiently convey the Benefits of this WSO and Why this is a Great Deal for you all?
Ok?

Thank you all for all of your participation and help! and Have a Great Day!

- Michael S. DeVries
#job ads #jobs #jobs board #response #warrior special offer #wso
  • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
    Originally Posted by TheVCF View Post

    Do None of our Fellow Warriors have Any Jobs (/Job Ads) to Post?

    Are you Posting Your Job Ads somewhere else / better?
    And if so, where?

    If I could give any solid advice, it would be to reverse your offering, in other words, if you were looking for any type of response from the WF, I would ask for people looking to post their resume to GET work, not to GIVE work away to someone else...

    I think most Warriors already work for themselves, have their own jobs, therefore have no need to hire employees...

    Most of us do most everything ourselves... if there is something we can't do, we ask a fellow warrior for help.

    I don't think it has anything to do with your sales copy, you are just trying to sell ice to eskimos with your offer here.

    Hope that makes sense to you.

    - Jared
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    • Profile picture of the author ildarius
      No clue, but I have bookmarked it, looks like a good service
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    • Profile picture of the author Darth Executor
      Originally Posted by webdesignhq View Post

      If I could give any solid advice, it would be to reverse your offering, in other words, if you were looking for any type of response from the WF, I would ask for people looking to post their resume to GET work, not to GIVE work away to someone else...
      I agree with the rest of your post, but not this. You're about as likely to find someone who wants a job on the WFs as you are to find someone who wants to get a job in a welfare line. Most people here want to LEAVE their job, not get another one.

      To give some advice to the TC: Focus on stuff IMs need. Copywriting/article writing/web design/digital art are a few examples. Then you might find people at least somewhat interested in hiring such people to do specific jobs. Market's a bit saturated on this though so...
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      • Profile picture of the author TheVCF
        Thank you, Jared, ildarius, and Darth, for your prompt responses!

        Jared - Yes, that was one of the things we were concerned about, namely that perhaps Warriors did not (perceive the Benefits) in Posting Job Ads here

        Although you all may see that this is "advertised" as a "JOBS Board" ...

        and ...

        We can understand that Many Fellow Warriors don't "hire salaried / hourly employees", which we don't want either! ...

        You may also see that ALL the Jobs we Post for ourselves there are for Contract / Consultant / Commission-based "Jobs" ...

        and NOT your 'typical salaried / hourly employees', you see?

        and Many of the other Jobs Boards and sites, including Craig's List either Don't Allow or "frown upon" such "results / commission based jobs postings", you know?

        However, since we just can't and don't want to try and be "All Things" and/or try to do everything ourselves ...

        We seek to "hire" / delegate to others as much as we are able to determine a Mutually Beneficial and Profitable Compensation 'Package' to Offer, you know?

        So ... sorry for the longer than intended response/diatribe, but ...

        Are we the only ones here that Post such Job Ads for Help with their (IM / online) businesses?

        .... in which case it is Pointless to (re-)offer this kind of WSO, Right?!

        Or ...

        Again, is it just that our WSO sales copy does not communicate these Benefits / Reasons sufficiently?

        And if so, How may we Improve this WSO sales copy does not communicate these Benefits / Reasons Better?

        so that we get the desired responses.

        Thank you all again for your prompt responses, for your participation and help! and Have a Great Day!

        - Michael S. DeVries
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        • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
          Originally Posted by TheVCF View Post


          Are we the only ones here that Post such Job Ads for Help with their (IM / online) businesses?

          .... in which case it is Pointless to (re-)offer this kind of WSO, Right?!

          Or ...

          Again, is it just that our WSO sales copy does not communicate these Benefits / Reasons sufficiently?

          And if so, How may we Improve this WSO sales copy does not communicate these Benefits / Reasons Better?

          so that we get the desired responses.

          Thank you all again for your prompt responses, for your participation and help! and Have a Great Day!

          - Michael S. DeVries
          It has nothing to do with your sales copy whatsoever... it's a matter of not selling the right product to the right audience.

          The thing you need to do is find the right audience that is eager and hungry to eat up your sales pitch.

          The way you are selling it does not fit well within this community. Once again, it's like selling ice to eskimos.

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      • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
        Originally Posted by Darth Executor View Post

        I agree with the rest of your post, but not this. You're about as likely to find someone who wants a job on the WFs as you are to find someone who wants to get a job in a welfare line. Most people here want to LEAVE their job, not get another one.
        I totally disagree with your statement, but let me explain why... Warriors are looking for 'freelance work', not a typical 'job' as you might think... True warriors work for themselves, but 'work' can mean many different things, from having a service based business to a product based biz...

        Can anyone help me justify this statement???

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        • Profile picture of the author Darth Executor
          Originally Posted by webdesignhq View Post

          I totally disagree with your statement, but let me explain why... Warriors are looking for 'freelance work', not a typical 'job' as you might think...
          Read the WSO. It looks exactly like a typical job directory and appears to be for regular jobs. Freelance work isn't what I have in mind when I think of "job".
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Hi Michael,

    First, let me say I have had WSOs that didn't sell a single copy. It's frustrating, especially when you know the value of what you're offering. Anyway...

    I think there is another element at play here.

    Want to know what I think of any time I see phrases like "80+ Million"? I know this has nothing to do with yuor offer, but I think of those email lists people sell. The number is so big, and the price so low that it may shut some people down without giving you a fair chance.

    Don't get me wrong, I know that;s not fair, but I'm willing to bet some people felt that way when they saw your WSO.

    Wishing you every success,
    Michael Oksa
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  • Profile picture of the author Asher
    Hi Michael,

    There's a sticky in the WSO forum about how to get your WSO sold
    under "Whatever You Do - Get This Book!!" that should be able to
    answer you and how to use WSO effectively.

    That said, I think your WSO can be used as a little case study so
    that you can further improve any future WSO (if you don't mind).

    On first impression, I see a lot of links that are pointing to one
    website. You have lots of different words which are linked to the
    website and even though your intention is good, it comes off (at
    least to me) as spammish.

    Having too many links like that is like reading a post made by a
    new blogger on "Wow! I made money (link) using this product (link)!
    You should check it out (link) because it made me money (link).
    If you don't believe me, go here (link) and check it out yourself!"

    So it comes off as very advertorial and pushy. Some people might
    click it out of curiousity but to buy from it would really depend on
    the product sales page itself. You've not given a good impression
    from there.

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  • Profile picture of the author Lance K
    Originally Posted by TheVCF View Post

    What is wrong with this WSO?
    Inadequate message to market match.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheVCF
      Thank You All, for your helpful feedback!

      Your recommendations for improvement to the sales copy will be helpful in the other places we are advertising these types of job posting offers, Thank You again for those! ...

      As it appears, as I had thought might be part of the problem, that this / the WF really isn't a good market for job postings, huh?

      Even though I guess I am surprised that at least some other IMers don't seek Help, even if not "traditional employees", to whom to delegate work as they Grow and Succeed, :confused:, but ...

      Perhaps, something more like an elance-style freelance "project" board might be better for this market / the WF, huh? ...

      So ...

      Maybe the WF / Allan, might consider adding some kind of freelance "project" board / Help Wanted Forum herein?

      And ...

      Iff any of you all / our Fellow Warriors are interested in Posting their Job Ads there, Please Contact Us directly and we will set you up with the Discount from this WSO, and/or a special package deal, if you have multiple jobs to post, as the Discount Code in that original WSO is now expired and won't work any longer, ok?

      ... as a Token of our Appreciation for all of your responses and help!

      Thank You All, again, for All of your helpful feedback regarding this WSO! and Have a Great Day!

      - Michael
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      • Profile picture of the author Mark McWilliams
        Originally Posted by TheVCF View Post

        Maybe the WF / Allan, might consider adding some kind of freelance "project" board / Help Wanted Forum herein?
        I'd say there was already a section for this!...

        Warrior Support Forums

        Allen created it not long ago!
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        • Profile picture of the author wordsandthings
          Good to know!
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          • Profile picture of the author sylviad
            This might already have been suggested... I only read about half way through your responses.

            Many recommendations/questions I've seen on the Forum are Warriors who are looking for someone for short-term work or freelance work - one-project type jobs. While there are some who have asked for more permanent workers, short jobs seem more the norm.

            The majority of time, they are referred to freelance sites like elance to find help. If you were offering something similar - if you had specific contacts or outlets where the right type of providers would see the ads, then you'd have something.

            I'd say you probably wouldn't find enough Warriors looking for long-term helpers.

            You might have better luck on business-related forums, rather than IM forums. Or advertising in newsletters that go to business operators.

            Just my 2 cents.

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