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$50,000 per Month vs $100 per day, What Would You Buy?

by apollocreed
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What do you think is more believable to a typical person who wants to start earning online, the promise of;

A) Discover How I Make $50,000 Per Month
or
B) Discover How I Make at Least $100 Per Day

In other words, would somebody trust and hence more likely to buy from an internet marketing course offering A or B?
#$100 #$50 #buy #day #month
  • Profile picture of the author mario3
    The $100 per day product would be more serious for me...and it would be much easier to reach then 50.000 a month
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    • Profile picture of the author apollocreed
      Originally Posted by mario3 View Post

      The $100 per day product would be more serious for me...and it would be much easier to reach then 50.000 a month
      Mario,

      What do you mean by serious?
      So would you not buy the $50K product because you would automatically believe it is too difficult or because you would not think it is real?

      If the same product was by Frank Kern or some other famous guru, would you then more likely buy it or would you still think it is not serious?

      Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
        For me, and this is just me....I don't use a monetary figure at all to hinge the success or failure of a product.

        Survey the WSO forum for a second....why do you think some people don't even take it seriously? $10,000/day? Really? or $100,000/month? and, you are investing a ton of time promoting a $7 eBook, on the WSO forum, because you truly and genuinly 'care' about fellow Warriors?

        ....make your product unique and stand out, beyond monetary figures.
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        • Profile picture of the author apollocreed
          Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

          For me, and this is just me....I don't use a monetary figure at all to hinge the success or failure of a product.

          Survey the WSO forum for a second....why do you think some people don't even take it seriously? $10,000/day? Really? or $100,000/month? and, you are investing a ton of time promoting a $7 eBook, on the WSO forum, because you truly and genuinly 'care' about fellow Warriors?

          ....make your product unique and stand out, beyond monetary figures.
          Perhaps you are unique. I never look at the WSO so I do not know what goes on there, but looking at Clickbank, the best MMO products are the ones with monetary figures.

          Even if you look outside the MMO, the weight loss niche will be about weight figures. Losing 30 Pounds in 30 days etc.

          Odd that the majority of posters on this thread say they would trust the $100 per day figure more, but in reality it seems the $50K per month figure simply sells more.

          I think numbers just speak very clearly.
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          • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
            Originally Posted by apollocreed View Post

            Perhaps you are unique. I never look at the WSO so I do not know what goes on there, but looking at Clickbank, the best MMO products are the ones with monetary figures.

            Even if you look outside the MMO, the weight loss niche will be about weight figures. Losing 30 Pounds in 30 days etc.

            Odd that the majority of posters on this thread say they would trust the $100 per day figure more, but in reality it seems the $50K per month figure simply sells more.

            I think numbers just speak very clearly.
            You have achieved $50,000/month or $100/day?

            I can only assume that, if you are seriously contemplating integrating this into your headline/sales copy (as evidenced by your posting it in the first place), that you have achieved at least one of these. Personally, I would go with the figure that ISN'T a lie.....and, if both are, I wouldn't use either....but, that's just me.

            Put some leg work into things, and come up with something truly unique, beyond monetary figures, that will make your products a compelling sell.
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by apollocreed View Post

        Mario,

        What do you mean by serious?
        So would you not buy the $50K product because you would automatically believe it is too difficult or because you would not think it is real?

        If the same product was by Frank Kern or some other famous guru, would you then more likely buy it or would you still think it is not serious?

        Thanks
        I'm not Mario, but yes, those who are chasing dreams instead of building businesses would believe Frank Kern over Apollo Creed with just a little over 100 posts here.

        I personally don't believe Frank Kern makes money with his systems. He makes money selling systems, just as you are trying to do. You're basically asking us which lie would we believe. I wouldn't believe either one, but if you're going to lie to sell a product, might as well lie big like everyone else who lies to sell products.
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        • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
          Yeah...lying about monetary figures, just to (hopefully) get more sales, is downright low....but, on top of that, it forges unfair competition that is making it increasingly difficult for ethical marketers to stand a chance. No wonder why people are completely turned off from purchasing things online any more.....those marketers have tainted things for everyone.

          (....and, I'm not saying this just because my "products don't sell"...they DO sell....but, lying or inflating figures just isn't cool no matter how you cut it...)
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          • Profile picture of the author apollocreed
            Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

            Yeah...lying about monetary figures, just to (hopefully) get more sales, is downright low....but, on top of that, it forges unfair competition that is making it increasingly difficult for ethical marketers to stand a chance. No wonder why people are completely turned off from purchasing things online any more.....those marketers have tainted things for everyone.

            (....and, I'm not saying this just because my "products don't sell"...they DO sell....but, lying or inflating figures just isn't cool no matter how you cut it...)
            I am not sure why everybody assumes that $50K month is lying. There must a lot of poor WSOs out there. There is a stench of a lot of lost dreams and bitterness in this thread.

            The question has nothing to do with lying. The question in other words is whether a very high headline figure ($50K) would convert better than a low easily attainable one ($100 per day or more).

            You can sell a $50k per month product by saying you are making more than $10, $100, $500, $1000 or $1500 per day.

            I can not relate to all the bitterness profusing in this thread as I personally have come across many very great IM products.
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            • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
              Originally Posted by apollocreed View Post

              I am not sure why everybody assumes that $50K month is lying. There must a lot of poor WSOs out there. There is a stench of a lot of lost dreams and bitterness in this thread.

              The question has nothing to do with lying. The question in other words is whether a very high headline figure ($50K) would convert better than a low easily attainable one ($100 per day or more).

              You can sell a $50k per month product by saying you are making more than $10, $100, $500, $1000 or $1500 per day.

              I can not relate to all the bitterness profusing in this thread as I personally have come across many very great IM products.
              Are you genuinly interested in this just for the sake of knowing it, or are you planning to implement it yourself?

              "I am not sure why everybody assumes that $50K month is lying."

              ....the question is....if you used that figure, in a WSO, would it be a lie or would it not be a lie? I'm not 100% sure why you would ask this question, in a thread, if you had absolutely no intent to implement it yourself.
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            • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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              Originally Posted by apollocreed View Post

              I am not sure why everybody assumes that $50K month is lying. There must a lot of poor WSOs out there. There is a stench of a lot of lost dreams and bitterness in this thread.

              The question has nothing to do with lying. The question in other words is whether a very high headline figure ($50K) would convert better than a low easily attainable one ($100 per day or more).

              You can sell a $50k per month product by saying you are making more than $10, $100, $500, $1000 or $1500 per day.

              I can not relate to all the bitterness profusing in this thread as I personally have come across many very great IM products.
              There is no stench of bitterness in this thread. I am not in the least bit bitter nor am I unsuccessful. I have a couple of thriving businesses that thrive because I do not lie to my customers. You're missing valuable advice, because you are certain your $50,000 income claim product is going to be a big success ... why .. because Frank Kern's gets away with it?

              Whatever. Believe what you want to believe, but like I said, do some reading in this forum and you will find many disillusioned newbies who are completely sick of the BS sales pages that promise the world and leave them with just more digital dust on their hard drives.

              As for your other post addressed to me. Get over it. Has nothing to do with pissing or etiquette. You apparently don't know how a public forum works. Someone posts and anyone who cares to respond ... responds. And if you just happen not to like the advice you are given ... tough.

              On a separate note, do not get too big headed because you have more than 1,000 posts. Some of us have been here since this forum was still in black and white. I will cut you down to size if need be.
              Are you threatening me for posting my opinion in this thread. I don't care when you were a member, although it says 2008 ... perhaps you have multiple accounts. I will post my opinions when I want to and I don't really need your permission to do that.
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              • Profile picture of the author apollocreed
                Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                There is no stench of bitterness in this thread. I am not in the least bit bitter nor am I unsuccessful. I have a couple of thriving businesses that thrive because I do not lie to my customers. You're missing valuable advice, because you are certain your $50,000 income claim product is going to be a big success ... why .. because Frank Kern's gets away with it?

                Whatever. Believe what you want to believe, but like I said, do some reading in this forum and you will find many disillusioned newbies who are completely sick of the BS sales pages that promise the world and leave them with just more digital dust on their hard drives.

                As for your other post addressed to me. Get over it. Has nothing to do with pissing or etiquette. You apparently don't know how a public forum works. Someone posts and anyone who cares to respond ... responds. And if you just happen not to like the advice you are given ... tough.



                Are you threatening me for posting my opinion in this thread. I don't care when you were a member, although it says 2008 ... perhaps you have multiple accounts. I will post my opinions when I want to and I don't really need your permission to do that.
                It is strange the hubris that some people develop after they gain a few thousand posts. They appoint themselves as experts and are ready to dish out free advice and impose their unasked outlook on every post as often as they can. For your information, 3 or 5 years in IM does not make you an expert, you are still a relative newbie with a lot to learn.

                I was not looking for advice on my original post so I have no idea why you feel you need to vehemently provide it.

                Many other normal people managed to give their experience as asked in the original post. That you see, is how forums work.

                You are not supposed to just answer your own questions on different unrelated threads and then critique your own paranoid answers. Psychiatrists have a name for that.

                Nevertheless, thank you for your advice (even though it wasn't asked or required). Just whether you preferred option A or option B would have sufficed.
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        • Profile picture of the author apollocreed
          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          I'm not Mario, but yes, those who are chasing dreams instead of building businesses would believe Frank Kern over Apollo Creed with just a little over 100 posts here.

          I personally don't believe Frank Kern makes money with his systems. He makes money selling systems, just as you are trying to do. You're basically asking us which lie would we believe. I wouldn't believe either one, but if you're going to lie to sell a product, might as well lie big like everyone else who lies to sell products.
          Thank you for your opinion and for sharing in what you believe in, but the question was directed at Mario. That is why I put his name at the beginning of the post.
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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by apollocreed View Post

            Thank you for your opinion and for sharing in what you believe in, but the question was directed at Mario. That is why I put his name at the beginning of the post.
            It is irrelevant who it is directed to. This is a public discussion board and if you don't want to have a public discussion, you should just use pms and email. As such, anyone who reads this and wishes to respond ... can, without permission.
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            • Profile picture of the author apollocreed
              Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

              It is irrelevant who it is directed to. This is a public discussion board and if you don't want to have a public discussion, you should just use pms and email. As such, anyone who reads this and wishes to respond ... can, without permission.
              Yes anyone can respond, but the more civilized will understand common etiquette.

              It is perfectly OK to urinate in your own kitchen sink, but most civilised people just do not do it. Perhaps your family is different.

              Just because you are allowed to do something does not mean you have to do it.

              On a separate note, do not get too big headed because you have more than 1,000 posts. Some of us have been here since this forum was still in black and white. I will cut you down to size if need be.
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              • Profile picture of the author Kelly Verge
                Originally Posted by apollocreed View Post

                On a separate note, do not get too big headed because you have more than 1,000 posts. Some of us have been here since this forum was still in black and white. I will cut you down to size if need be.

                Chill.

                You asked a question and people are answering it. If you don't like their answers, don't listen to the advice.
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                • Profile picture of the author apollocreed
                  Originally Posted by Kelly Verge View Post

                  Chill.

                  You asked a question and people are answering it. If you don't like their answers, don't listen to the advice.
                  I was not asking for advice. Read the OP.

                  I simply have not provided enough information in the OP for anybody with any sense to even attempt to provide advice. How can you give counsel on an issue that you know nothing about?

                  I simply asked whether option A or option B was more likely to make you pull out your wallet. Quite simple really. You must be best friends with sbucciarel as you seem to think alike.
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                  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
                    Originally Posted by apollocreed View Post

                    I was not asking for advice. Read the OP.

                    I simply have not provided enough information in the OP for anybody with any sense to even attempt to provide advice. How can you give counsel on an issue that you know nothing about?

                    I simply asked whether option A or option B was more likely to make you pull out your wallet. Quite simple really. You must be best friends with sbucciarel as you seem to think alike.
                    It doesn't matter what you were asking for. This is a public forum, and if you don't like the responses that you're getting, then the solution is simple - don't post your question.

                    Since I think like Kelly Verge as well, the odd person out thinking-wise seems to be the loudmouth who thinks that the way to sell things is to insult people who take exception to their behavior on a forum. Not exactly good marketing practice there.

                    I'd say that the one who has a lot to learn would be you.
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              • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
                Originally Posted by apollocreed View Post

                Yes anyone can respond, but the more civilized will understand common etiquette.

                It is perfectly OK to urinate in your own kitchen sink, but most civilised people just do not do it. Perhaps your family is different.

                Just because you are allowed to do something does not mean you have to do it.

                On a separate note, do not get too big headed because you have more than 1,000 posts. Some of us have been here since this forum was still in black and white. I will cut you down to size if need be.

                The MOST civilized will understand common rules of the road in an internet discussion forum, and keep their propensity for dickhead in a can when the world doesn't behave in the neatly defined manner they prescribe for it in their self-aggrandizing fashion.
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  • Profile picture of the author Davioli
    The truth
    Nuff said.
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  • Profile picture of the author Albie Mathews
    I will like to learn both of these courses.
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  • Profile picture of the author edwinkoh
    b.)

    Simply because it seems a more approachable target for internet newcomers. Who hasn't made $100 a day outside of the internet?

    On the contrary, most people do not make $50,000 a month...

    That's why I think the $100 a day is easier to relate to and trust.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Neither one since they are both probably lies. I do not buy products based on fake over-inflated income claims.
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  • Profile picture of the author sloanjim
    How about something really novel? Tel lthe truth. so what is the real earnings? $100 per day or $50,000 per month? Or is that mute?
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  • Profile picture of the author Vitaliy K
    $100 is more attractive, because some people see realistic goals ... I would say $100 is a good one :- ))
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  • Profile picture of the author Underground SEO
    I would advise to simply tell the truth. You may in fact get more purchases from people if you just say $20 a day or something, as that sounds believeable. $100 a day and $50,000 a month will just make people think of all the "fake" income claims associated with rubbish products they have purchased in the past.
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  • Profile picture of the author noodle2005
    as people above have said, just tell the truth.

    Having said that, 100 a day is a lot more realistic if you like. 50000 per month would just set of most peoples bull****ometers surely
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  • Profile picture of the author GuerrillaIM
    The answer to "how to make $100 a day" is to stack shelves in my local supermarket.

    I am used to earning a lot more than this so I would be more interested in the $50k one. Although pretty much all of these products are BS.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Actually, the majority on this thread have told you to tell the truth, but you're completing disregarding that advice.

    You do realize that you have just informed the entire Warrior Forum and all of the newbie "potential customers" here that you intend to launch a product and lie about your income in order to sell it. That message has come across loud and clear. I'm not a newbie and wouldn't have bought it anyway, but trust me, there are a lot of WSO seekers here that will read it.
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  • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
    First thing, WHO is typical? That, for me, is problematic. It makes a huge assumption.

    It could be the vast majority of Warriors whom would want to know how to make a CONSISTENT hundred bux a day with a legal and legitimate Auto Pilot system (that is, as often as not, the dream being sold in the WSO). But you don't read WSO even though the people that do are probably THE target market for the 100 bucks a day type product. Hmmm.

    It is a good idea to start with the TARGET market, or some same niche. What common elements does this GROUP OF PEOPLE share?

    As for the 50k a month product, it goes to CRED and how the offer is presented. I would think a sales generating promotion for either product would be crafted for the right audience and doubt if there would be much "crossover".

    Also, it is easier to sell a 100 buck a day product if it is priced "right", that is, if it matches up to what most products in the category are priced, and may very well have a much larger target.

    Then it would depend on WHOM is selling it. And why. I've been involved with both type of products and there needs to be an educational aspect to the larger dollar type product, often of historical nature.

    As "headlines" neither approach offers much, and like most people, it is hard to care about what you did or are doing. Discover how you can make 100 per day, discover how you can make 50,000 per month are both income based promotions which have built in resistance to too large a percentage of the market(s) for me, but it may work for you.

    You may already have something in motion or even completed but I would advise anyone contemplating selling a product to do due diligence and thorough market research, and that should give you the answer.

    What does the market buy now and how are the promotions presented. Basic marketing type stuff.

    Good luck with your project.

    gjabiz

    Originally Posted by apollocreed View Post

    What do you think is more believable to a typical person who wants to start earning online, the promise of;

    A) Discover How I Make $50,000 Per Month
    or
    B) Discover How I Make at Least $100 Per Day

    In other words, would somebody trust and hence more likely to buy from an internet marketing course offering A or B?
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  • Profile picture of the author ericdpangilinan
    B) For most people looking for good IM guides, $100 per day seems much more believable.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    Why do you even ASK whether something is "believable"? It sounds already like a scam in the making..you dont have a earnings number but rather ask "how believable" it is?

    And by the way..i personally would NOT buy the $100/day WSO/book/product since the figure simply doesn't impress me.
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