Watch out there's a thief about!

by tomw
26 replies
Hi guys,

When I checked some of our email accounts this morning there was at least thirty copies of exactly the same email sent by various affiliates. It was a promo for a new product called "Hack ANY Ebook!"

The product teaches people how to "legally hack" your products!

All of you Warriors that have not taken the trouble to, or indeed don't know how to, protect your products I would suggest that you seek out Sam Stephens and his product DL Guard. You really should do this anyway, and at the very least, ensure that your products are protected.

The email is as follows...

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Stop Buying Ebooks.
Hack them Ethically!!


Dear Friend,

In just 5-8 minutes from now, you will be able to get ANY
Ebook or Software that you lay your eyes on....
for FREE.

Do yourself a favor and read on.. - because if you take action
now, this will be the last sales letter you will read -E V E R!

Is It Legal: Blame it on Google and Yahoo! We have full right
to search anyword , anything , anyway on search engines and
use the results for our favours.

Most of the ebooks out there are full of promises to know that
they are crap and you'll just feel cheated.

Now You can Get Access To Hundreds Of Clickbank,
PayDotCom, 1stShopping Cart Ebooks & Products
Within 5-10 of Minutes Using Google,Yahoo And Some other
Search Engines. Ethically Of course!

Get this REPORT now and save thousands of dollars.

Take me to the sales page now!!!

LINK REMOVED AS REQUESTED BY THE EVER DILIGENT ALEXA!

My only purpose here is to share with you this report to help
You save on your ebook purchases. If you wish to unsubscribe,
put remove in the subject line HERE. Thank you for your time.
PS. Removal will take 24 hours from our system.

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http://www.warriorforum.com/attachme...1&d=1224498305

So...hey, be careful out there

Thomas

P.S. If anyone could tell me how to add images directly into the post, that would be great! Doh!
#thief #watch
  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    • Profile picture of the author tomw
      Originally Posted by alexa_s View Post

      Interesting ... but did you have to leave the link in it, to help them to promote it? :confused:
      Well done for spotting my deliberate mistake

      Thanks Alexa! Link REMOVED!

      Thomas
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  • Profile picture of the author Fendi Salim
    Yes Tom,

    You can unlink any URL on your posts by unchecking the "Automatically parse links in text" under Additional Options before submitting or editing...

    Back to topic... perhaps Sam will be doing another WSO on DLGuard soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hamish Jones
    I would be interested to hear arguments on how you can 'ethically' steal something.
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    • Profile picture of the author AskJesusLeon
      Originally Posted by Hamish Jones View Post

      I would be interested to hear arguments on how you can 'ethically' steal something.
      I would be interested in hearing the argument as well...
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    • Profile picture of the author wildbird
      Originally Posted by Hamish Jones View Post

      I would be interested to hear arguments on how you can 'ethically' steal something.

      Taxes

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        • Profile picture of the author Clark
          Originally Posted by mrsleep99 View Post

          It's a good day to be the creator of DL Guard.
          That is one example of an initial safeguard at point of sale however, once the paying customer has the unprotected product safely located on their hard drive then it's impossible to stop the spread of it virally from those who intend to spread it.

          2 things to consider:

          - Unprotected download area
          - Unprotected product
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
            Originally Posted by Clark View Post

            That is one example of an initial safeguard at point of sale however, once the paying customer has the unprotected product safely located on their hard drive then it's impossible to stop the spread of it virally from those who intend to spread it.

            2 things to consider:

            - Unprotected download area
            - Unprotected product
            The Download area is protected by limiting the number of downloads and limiting the time in which they have to download.

            Unprotected products... I think you will never be able to achieve a totally secure product unless you have NO customers. Even a password protected PDF file can be distributed easily, etc...

            So I think they only way you will have a 100% secure product is if you never sell it in the first place and keep it locked tight on a CD in your desk. (LOL)

            On the other hand I never worry about what could or probably does happen I just think about what will happen if I don't worry myself with all that and keep pushing forward creating products, coaching my clients, and making lots of money.

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      • Profile picture of the author DKjaw12
        Originally Posted by wildbird View Post

        Taxes

        Gene
        No, that would be 'legally' not 'ethically'
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    • Profile picture of the author Angela V. Edwards
      Originally Posted by Hamish Jones View Post

      I would be interested to hear arguments on how you can 'ethically' steal something.
      Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too.
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  • Profile picture of the author gimmick
    This is how bad internet can get, people steal music, software etc. If you find a way - just do it, its not real hardware (so it can't be real theft - can it?), and its virtual, digital stuff, so nobody loses anything...

    No wonder the economics fall
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Bestel
    Re your image question..

    Simply click the image icon (yellow one with a mountain image) and insert the url of the picture.



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  • Profile picture of the author tomw
    Thanks Peter,

    After much head scratching, feeling like I was completely blind or stupid, I began to grow a little paranoid that I was not a full member or just not cool enough to get a full interface

    After further investigation I discovered that (for anyone else having the same problem) I needed to:

    Click "User CP" in the top left in the WF Menu Bar
    Scroll down to "Edit Options"
    Scroll down to the very bottom of the page to "Miscellaneous Options"
    Choose "Enhanced Interface - Full WYSIWYG Editing"

    Now that I finally see the yellow mountain icon I'm off to purchase a pair of Tom Ford's

    Thomas
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  • Profile picture of the author sparrow
    There's whole forums out there promoting this to their members,

    seems the only way to protect yourself is to put everything behind expiring password protected download pages

    Ed
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    • Profile picture of the author Fendi Salim
      Originally Posted by sparrow View Post

      There's whole forums out there promoting this to their members,

      seems the only way to protect yourself is to put everything behind expiring password protected download pages

      Ed
      Ed, when there's whole forums out there... basically they don't even need the download pages... just one buyer is enough to get your stuff circulated.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
    I give up. I've tried to help quite a few marketers who had products "in the clear" that anyone could download. Most of them simply said "oh thanks" but did nothing about it. Some wouldn't even reply to me.

    If they don't care, then I don't care. I'll look out for my own stuff.

    Perhaps they are focused on the next project and really don't care too much that people are stealing. Those people probably would not be customers in the first place. Just a guess, who really knows.
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  • Profile picture of the author Denise Hall
    Hmmmmm... this sounds a lot like a post here a couple of months ago, where some kid was claiming that "everything on Google is free." That post caused quite a bit of debate, and I think the OP eventually got banned from the forum.

    I guess anyone who has the same idea - that if you can find it on Google it must be free - would consider it "ethically hacking" when they steal products.

    But hacking is hacking and stealing is stealing, in my book.

    After all, if you walked into a bank and someone dropped a $100 bill on the floor, would you think it was yours just because you saw it before they could pick it up and put it securely in their wallet?

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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Ayres
    This is old news and happens all the time i dont know why people worry about it so much.

    forget about it and move on
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    • Profile picture of the author WebVanity
      If by "Hacking" you mean extracting the text then thats pretty easy - but I think I completely missed the point:rolleyes:.
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    • Profile picture of the author sylviad
      Originally Posted by SpudDS View Post

      This is old news and happens all the time i dont know why people worry about it so much.

      forget about it and move on
      You mean people stealing... or people selling products telling you how to steal? Either one is something to worry about. It's one thing for people to go around trying to figure out how they can get stuff with a price for free. But now we have some idiot telling people what they need to know to do so. And what's worse, they're passing it of as being a 'legal' method.

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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Ayres
        Originally Posted by sylviad View Post

        You mean people stealing... or people selling products telling you how to steal? Either one is something to worry about. It's one thing for people to go around trying to figure out how they can get stuff with a price for free. But now we have some idiot telling people what they need to know to do so. And what's worse, they're passing it of as being a 'legal' method.

        Sylvia
        My point is you are never going to stop people sharing your products so why not just do what you can ie use something like DLGuard and then forget about it move on and make the next product that will make you more money.
        no point in worrying about people getting your product for free that would probably never have bought it anyway
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    • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
      There was a thread about this just a couple of days ago. I said that one of the techniques was obvious - just search for a well known phrase that CB require on their thank you page. I see that search in my website stats.

      I'm not interested (read too lazy) in putting lots of protection in place, but I have just removed that required text from all my thank you pages. I've replaced it with a screenshot of the required text. The customer still sees what they need to see, but the search engines wont find it once the page has been reindexed.

      Guess that's all obvious to experienced Warriors, but it might help a few of us less experienced ones.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnWilliams
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    Originally Posted by Hamish Jones
    I would be interested to hear arguments on how you can 'ethically' steal something.

    I've heard them - you haven't missed anything sensible or interesting.

    John Williams
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  • Profile picture of the author Hugh
    wildbird,

    Hamish said ethically.

    Taxes??????

    Hugh
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  • Profile picture of the author Andres
    What sucks even more is that there are vidoes that show how to do this as well.

    There are so many sites out there with full versions of software all you need is 1 guy to post a vid showing you the exact steps.

    I totally recommend that you protect your DL pages.
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