I'm A Complete Failure...Or Am I?

14 years ago

I like that, pal. That's the SPIRIT - Never Give Up!

I have said it to more people than I can remember,
I think I should say it here again...

It seems nature/God/the Universe/whatever name
you want to call it, made the world in such a way
that only FEW (if anyone at all) EVER truly
succeeds at the first try. It seems everyone has
to keep on trying again and again before succeeding.

So, even if you did everything right re the sales
copy, the pricing, the delivery, etc, it seems the
same law above is happening to your WSO. So,
instead of thinking you are no good or your WSO
was no good, it just means you should try again
and again until it succeeds. Thankfully you
KNOW you are NOT the problem. That's where
lots of people lose - when they think THEY
are the problem. Such people simply lay down
and play dead - never to release another WSO.

And guess what I noticed again...

Those who REFUSE to give up and who keep on
trying and trying eventually succeed BIG TIME
and keep succeeding again and again and again.

Kingsley

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BrainCopy

14 years ago

Originally Posted by warriorkay

I like that, pal. That's the SPIRIT - Never Give Up!

I have said it to more people than I can remember,
I think I should say it here again...

It seems nature/God/the Universe/whatever name
you want to call it, made the world in such a way
that only FEW (if anyone at all) EVER truly
succeeds at the first try. It seems everyone has
to keep on trying again and again before succeeding.

So, even if you did everything right re the sales
copy, the pricing, the delivery, etc, it seems the
same law above is happening to your WSO. So,
instead of thinking you are no good or your WSO
was no good, it just means you should try again
and again until it succeeds. Thankfully you
KNOW you are NOT the problem. That's where
lots of people lose - when they think THEY
are the problem. Such people simply lay down
and play dead - never to release another WSO.

And guess what I noticed again...

Those who REFUSE to give up and who keep on
trying and trying eventually succeed BIG TIME
and keep succeeding again and again and again.

Kingsley

Thank you for the kind words Kingsley, believe it or not that really
motivated me that much more.

Thank you again,
UFG

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warriorkay

14 years ago

Originally Posted by UFG

Thank you for the kind words Kingsley, believe it or not that really
motivated me that much more.

Thank you again,
UFG

You forgot to click the thanks button,

Kingsley

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BrainCopy

14 years ago

Originally Posted by warriorkay

You forgot to click the thanks button,

Kingsley

How could I forget

Originally Posted by Paul Hooper-Kelly

Hi Guys and Gals,

There's NO such thing as failure.

The correct word is 'FEEDBACK'.

Thinking of it that way is vital, because you won't suffer from 'fear of failure', so you'll keep trying until you succeed.

Remember Thomas Edison had to plow through about a 1,000 different ways of making a light bulb that wouldn't work, until he found the one way it would work.

And I'm sure it won't take you anywhere near 1,000 attempts to make your WSO a rip-roaring success.

So keep on keeping on.

Warmest regards,

Paul

Thank You Paul. I sure hope I don't have to try 1,000 times. I don't have $20k for the listing fee haha.

Thank you once again.

Originally Posted by efwebm

I think your WSO will get some more attention from this thread. I certainly went and checked it out. I'm sure others will too.

Update us when the sales start rolling in

I honestly hope others won't take this thread as "promotional"
It is not that at all.

Best Regards,
UFG

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warriorkay 14 years ago

Originally Posted by UFG

How could I forget

Best Regards,
UFG

Now that feels good,

Kingsley
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Mister Bryan

14 years ago

Hey man,

I think it's too early to call yourself a complete failure.

I too, am in the process of creating a WSO for a product of mine. WOuld you care to share what you think went wrong for your initial WSO?

Good luck with the re-structuring!

Regards
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jeffster

14 years ago

Hi USG, it's not how hard you fall but whether you get back up again that matters. I also produced a WSO that only got 1 sale. Join the club!

Depending on the what the product is but you may be able to use it in other ways if it doesn't come off as a great WSO.

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Mister Bryan

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jeffster

Hi USG, it's not how hard you fall but whether you get back up again that matters. I also produced a WSO that only got 1 sale. Join the club!

Depending on the what the product is but you may be able to use it in other ways if it doesn't come off as a great WSO.

...which brings us to a nice little question of: What kind of niches/products actually do sell on the Warrior Special Offer section? Any ideas/suggestions folks?

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BrainCopy

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jeffster

Hi USG, it's not how hard you fall but whether you get back up again that matters. I also produced a WSO that only got 1 sale. Join the club!

Depending on the what the product is but you may be able to use it in other ways if it doesn't come off as a great WSO.

Hi Jeff, thank you for the motivation. I think we should contact the owner of this forum and have him make us our own section in the forum - (we'll call it the 1 sale club) haha

All we can do is try, then try harder, and when all else fails......we try even harder!

Thank you for the response friend,
UFG

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Paul Hooper-Kelly 14 years ago

Hi Guys and Gals,

There's NO such thing as failure.

The correct word is 'FEEDBACK'.

Thinking of it that way is vital, because you won't suffer from 'fear of failure', so you'll keep trying until you succeed.

Remember Thomas Edison had to plow through about a 1,000 different ways of making a light bulb that wouldn't work, until he found the one way it would work.

And I'm sure it won't take you anywhere near 1,000 attempts to make your WSO a rip-roaring success.

So keep on keeping on.

Warmest regards,

Paul
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Myles Sinclair

14 years ago

Hi Anthony,

I notice on your WSO that you've left off the price of the product. I had to click through to the order page to get this info. I think it would be a good idea to advertise on the sales page what the normal price is, along with the discounted price Warriors can get it for.

Also, I'm not sure that associating the product with the Mob makes it appealing. I know others have done it, but it creates a few negative thoughts. I'm sure your product is totally ethical, but the Mob connection sends out some mixed messages.

Anyway, just my initial thoughts for what they're worth. I hope the re-launch is a big success for you.

Myles

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BrainCopy

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Myles Sinclair

Hi Anthony,

I notice on your WSO that you've left off the price of the product. I had to click through to the order page to get this info. I think it would be a good idea to advertise on the sales page what the normal price is, along with the discounted price Warriors can get it for.

Also, I'm not sure that associating the product with the Mob makes it appealing. I know others have done it, but it creates a few negative thoughts. I'm sure your product is totally ethical, but the Mob connection sends out some mixed messages.

Anyway, just my initial thoughts for what they're worth. I hope the re-launch is a big success for you.

Myles

I actually never thought about it like that. Thank you Myles for the suggestion. It WILL BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

Best Regards,
UFG

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thunderbird

14 years ago

If you never fail, you're a failure. All human advances are the result of learning from failure.

What was your product?

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GeorgR.

14 years ago

I had my days where i made $1000 within a few hours with WSOs, but then also where i made a (supposedly) killer WSO and didnt get one sale

Can happen. I hate to say it, its gotten WAY more difficult in the last two years due to the incredible amount of WSOs going on all the time.

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Hanz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by GeorgR.

I had my days where i made $1000 within a few hours with WSOs, but then also where i made a (supposedly) killer WSO and didnt get one sale

Can happen. I hate to say it, its gotten WAY more difficult in the last two years due to the incredible amount of WSOs going on all the time.

And it's likely going to get harder with the way things are going. Over-saturation of the WSO Forum. Who would've thought it?

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Dana Forsythe 14 years ago

Something to keep in mind is that WSOs are not as popular as they used to be. Almost everyone is doing them now so its saturated and there are a lot of cheap products out there. It used to be that almost every WSO was a quality product but not anymore so now people are more wary about buying.

Don't give up
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Karan Goel

14 years ago

Hey "UFG"(!!???)

Don't get disheartened. The WSO has been up for less than a day. And, I see that you do not have a link to it in your sig. Do this first. Get a sig that screams "CLICK ON ME".

Then, use some bum marketing, free reports etc to drive traffic. Mail to your list, if you have one.

Hopefully, that might help you boost your sales.

Best of luck,
Karan

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BrainCopy

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Karan Goel

Hey "UFG"(!!???)

Don't get disheartened. The WSO has been up for less than a day. And, I see that you do not have a link to it in your sig. Do this first. Get a sig that screams "CLICK ON ME".

Then, use some bum marketing, free reports etc to drive traffic. Mail to your list, if you have one.

Hopefully, that might help you boost your sales.

Best of luck,
Karan

Hi Karan, I actually did have the link in my signature, but had taken it down for obvious reason. I actually plan on putting it back when everything is re-constructed. I am actually thinking about making the course into something so much bigger. I was just releasing the wso as a "basic structure" to see if people were actually finding it useful.

Thank you for the support,
UFG

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xiaophil 14 years ago

I think that's a winning attitude you have there.

Here's an idea for eliminating the word 'failure' completely.

Thinking in terms of 'success' and 'failure' can often be very divisive and only enable two possible outcomes.

Instead, by thinking in terms of 'feedback' then the results you get can be transformed into varying degrees of success, because any feedback is good and useful feedback.

So I think far from being a failure, what you actually experienced with your WSO was some degree of success.

Does that make sense?

Phil

EDIT: I just noticed Paul's similar reply. Thanks Paul, and long live NLP!
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CDarklock 14 years ago

Originally Posted by UFG

Hi Karan, I actually did have the link in my signature, but had taken it down for obvious reason.

You almost had another sale, but "OFFER CLOSED" got in my way.

There is no way to know whether I will ever go look for your WSO again.

Think about that.
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- BrainCopy 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by CDarklock
  
  You almost had another sale, but "OFFER CLOSED" got in my way.
  
  There is no way to know whether I will ever go look for your WSO again.
  
  Think about that.
  
  I did think about that, but I didn't want to make any sales off warriors just because of this thread. I didn't intend on this to be "promoting" my WSO.
  I know my product is good, I just simply didn't deliver that into the copy.
  Thank you though, and I will keep that in mind.
  
  Best Regards,
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- M_Zec 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by CDarklock
  
  You almost had another sale, but "OFFER CLOSED" got in my way.
  
  Same here.
  
  I am very interested in your way of make money.
  
  When WSO go out again i think i will purchase it.
  
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efwebm 14 years ago

I think your WSO will get some more attention from this thread. I certainly went and checked it out. I'm sure others will too.

Update us when the sales start rolling in
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webcreationuk

14 years ago

Hey, you have to hit the walls first to enjoy success later.

Stay positive though!

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MassiveMarketer

14 years ago

Don't call yourself a failure. Think of it as an opportunity for improvement. Try to figure out what you can do to make it better and then try again. That's really cool of you, not giving up! You just got to find the right strategy then you'll get there.

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BonganiS

14 years ago

You are not a failure because you have not given up. Someone who has failed is one who quits after some few attempts. If it happens that you are not successful during the first or second attempt, you have a chance to learn as to where you went wrong. You seek advice and apply it accordingly.

Good luck.

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Buzzin

14 years ago

As long as you never give up, you can't fail.

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theemperor

14 years ago

UFG - I have a new philosophy which helps me when sales are LOW.

It is to realise that you did SELL, that your product can SELL and it's just that the sales volume is low. Even just one sale proves there is demand and you can tweak to get more sales:

Here are some ideas for you:

Where else can you sell?
- Your own site (+article marketing, SEO etc)
- Digital Point
- Other forums
- Build a list using a freebie
- Recruit Affiliates
- JVs (e.g. promote to their list, they promote to yours)
How can you improve the WSO?
- How to get more response to keep it bumped up
- How to improve the copy? E.g. Buy books on sales copy.
- Do a new WSO each month to keep the message coming throguh
- WSO link on your sig + dozens of helpful posts
Can you improve the product
- Market research
  - Get feedback from the one buyer
  - Give samples to other warriors (e.g. friends you have added who you like based on their posts)
  - Look at the competition, why is yours better? Why should I buy yours
  - Look at other WSO's that do well. What do they do . Which WSO's get all of the "I Love You" type responses.

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sbucciarel

Banned 14 years ago

I think WSOs have a far better chance of success if you've taken the time to build up a reputation in the WF first. As a new member, no one really knows you. You haven't built up trust. Perhaps that's why you didn't receive responses to your pms.

I think far too many new people sign on here, don't contribute much to the WF and think they're going to make bank with a WSO. I haven't checked your WSO, so I don't know what it's about. There may be problems there as well, but never underestimate the power of networking and contributing on this forum.

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sohoney

14 years ago

There is something called over-expectation.It is not bad but it can be crunching to the ego.I llike your spirit though.Just do as you said.Improve on it.

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mary_k

14 years ago

you're not a failure dude. i think the only WSOs that do really well are the ones that fill peoples' heads with fluff. my first WSO, which I was really convinced was an awesome one, only sold one copy. but that person also ended up joining my site.

so don't give up. i personally don't understand why people are still going crazy in the WSO section, when most of everything you need can be found in the war room or elsewhere for free.

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Jude.A

14 years ago

Originally Posted by UFG

But then I realized. Am I failure because I didn't make any sales? Am I failure because my WSO didn't turn out to be the best WSO alive!?? and the answer to those questions were NO. I realized that I have achieved something way beyond failure. It was TAKING ACTION - I did something that 80% of new marketers don't do. So this all ties in with one of my favorite quotes on earth.

It is hard to fail, but it is worse never to have tried to succeed.
Theodore Roosevelt

p.s. I am in the middle of re-writing everything and re-releasing the WSO. I'm not going to give up.

That's the spirit my friend. I'm happy you are not giving up.
I find this post very inspiring and i thank you. Infact, I'm gonna hit the 'thanks' button to show you my appreciation.
I wish you success in your re-launch.

Jude.

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BrainCopy

14 years ago

I wasn't expecting this much support from the forum. I must say, that it inspires me to know that I have your guy's support.

So in short I would love to SAY THANK YOU WARRIORS FOR YOUR INSPIRATION AND THE CONFIDENCE YOU HAVE GIVEN ME.

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DeadGuy 14 years ago

I cringe to think of the mountain we would create if all of us threw in our products and ideas that didn't work. Mine alone would be a significant pile.
Forge ahead. You've only identified one concept that didn't work the way you anticipated.
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davidjames42973

14 years ago

I've been told by several successful Warriors that your first product isn't going to be the one that does well. It'll be the 3rd product, the 4th product, etc. Eventually you'll have multiple products that do OK and that will all add up $ wise...

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Hanz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by davidjames42973

I've been told by several successful Warriors that your first product isn't going to be the one that does well. It'll be the 3rd product, the 4th product, etc. Eventually you'll have multiple products that do OK and that will all add up $ wise...

That's quite interesting. My first product did very well and some of the forum's most experienced/established marketers loved it, asking for more. I think it comes down to sales copy and being able to market yourself and your WSO as something really special. First thing though is to establish a reputation and participating in forum discussions.

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Andy Money

14 years ago

Originally Posted by UFG

Okay, long story short. I had recently launched my very first WSO and thought that I would make at least a decent amount of money by doing so. I mean why not? I have a bad ass product that I put my heart an soul into, and I know my system works.

So anyhow, It's Launched!! I'm totally excited and made my first sale in just a few minutes. Well little did I know, that was going to be my only sale

I wrecked my brain trying to figure out what happened. I know it's not the price of my product, there was just too much value for that to be the issue. So it got me thinking, well maybe I didn't deliver it's value in the sales copy, or perhaps it was the sales copy and thread tittle.

Anyhow, I was totally depressed and messaging some of my mentors here on the Warrior Forum & guess what?? - No one replied...these are people that I have actually looked up to, and actually BOUGHT all their products...and I couldn't receive any advice in return.

Now I'm feeling more like a jack a$$ that don't know jack sh#%. But then I realized. Am I failure because I didn't make any sales? Am I failure because my WSO didn't turn out to be the best WSO alive!?? and the answer to those questions were NO. I realized that I have achieved something way beyond failure. It was TAKING ACTION - I did something that 80% of new marketers don't do. So this all ties in with one of my favorite quotes on earth.

It is hard to fail, but it is worse never to have tried to succeed.
Theodore Roosevelt

p.s. I am in the middle of re-writing everything and re-releasing the WSO. I'm not going to give up.

I spent hundreds on posting and bumping WSO's before I "got it"--good luck, you'll get it. Just watch what people are doing and replicate it with your own twist.

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Mukul Verma

14 years ago

Dude, WSO is way too small for your thinking. I have tried it, I thinking like you and the returns were not worth it compared to running a serious, bigger online business, Yes some instant cash, but small. You have the most powerful tool in succeeding online and thats mindset. Most people dont get that far, so congrads on that.

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Russ Emrick

14 years ago

Sorry for being the contrarian in this thread. However after reading the idea "there is no such thing as failure" so many times I had to speak. I understand why we say that to our children and perhaps to ourselves. Children need to be protected. Rationalizing feels really good. However it doesn't win fights or the blood sport called selling, called business.

Time to put our big boy pants on and admit failure. We learn from failure - often more than we do from our successes. Nieche said that which doesn't' kill us makes us stronger. Failure isn't wrong. In fact it is inevitalble. The only people that don't fail are the people who don't do anything.

It is all about what you do after failing that matters. I believe that is what most of what you are saying. However fuzzy words and concepts really don't help IMO. I've never seen a lost sale, a closed business, a failure of any sort that didn't have a large measure of rationalization and willful ignorance involved. Jack Welch said that brutal honesty with yourself and the business is absolutely essential for success. It starts with the fact that in any venture, any sport, any competitive encounter there will be winners and losers, failures and successes. The difference isn't in the event but on what you do afterward.

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lynnw196

14 years ago

Great View To Have! We learn from our mistakes or analyze what we could have done better and employ that the next time around. I would bet 90% of the people on this forum failed at least a couple of times initially.

My greatest place to look when things aren't going right (no personal connection what so ever, just kind neat): They Did Not Give Up

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johnben1444

14 years ago

We are yet to see people who just come on board and start raking in hundreds of dollars. It takes a lot of nerve to hit the nail in the right spot.

But am glad you have adopted a motto. "NEVER GIVE UP" cos you never know how close you are to success.

Truth is, making money online takes time, effort and patience. It's requires lots of skills than most people think.

Keep trying. Maybe you got yourself the wrong mentor.

There is nothing a mentor can teach you that will work, success all depends on you. How to absorb and apply the things you have learnt.

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sylviad 14 years ago

Yup. Know the feeling. It's a good quality product, why isn't anyone buying?

From what i've heard, there are so many things that can cause it, not the least of which is that people just don't get drawn into your copy. Since the gurus keep saying that you have to hit them where it hurts, I've made "emotion" my first goal. Hit them in the emotions - show them the problem and how much it hurts, and then show them the solution and how well and how quickly it makes the hurt go away.

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- mikebrooks 14 years ago
  
  Test, Test and Test.
  
  Don't go changing everything. Of course I say this without looking at it.
  
  But if you feel you've got a good product and good copy, start tweaking and test the results. Don't test too much at once.
  
  You now have a baseline. So go from there and see what happens.
  
  I would also reach out to your buyer for feedback. why did he/she buy? did she like it after buying it?
  
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Igor Kheifets

14 years ago

Originally Posted by UFG

Okay, long story short. I had recently launched my very first WSO and thought that I would make at least a decent amount of money by doing so. I mean why not? I have a bad ass product that I put my heart an soul into, and I know my system works.

So anyhow, It's Launched!! I'm totally excited and made my first sale in just a few minutes. Well little did I know, that was going to be my only sale

I wrecked my brain trying to figure out what happened. I know it's not the price of my product, there was just too much value for that to be the issue. So it got me thinking, well maybe I didn't deliver it's value in the sales copy, or perhaps it was the sales copy and thread tittle.

Anyhow, I was totally depressed and messaging some of my mentors here on the Warrior Forum & guess what?? - No one replied...these are people that I have actually looked up to, and actually BOUGHT all their products...and I couldn't receive any advice in return.

Now I'm feeling more like a jack a$$ that don't know jack sh#%. But then I realized. Am I failure because I didn't make any sales? Am I failure because my WSO didn't turn out to be the best WSO alive!?? and the answer to those questions were NO. I realized that I have achieved something way beyond failure. It was TAKING ACTION - I did something that 80% of new marketers don't do. So this all ties in with one of my favorite quotes on earth.

It is hard to fail, but it is worse never to have tried to succeed.
Theodore Roosevelt

p.s. I am in the middle of re-writing everything and re-releasing the WSO. I'm not going to give up.

Don't give up dude. It's not that anyone who launches
a WSO makes a ton of money.

The WSO I'm running right now in my sig file, although
it has generated quite a response ever since, has totally
failed and generated only 2 sales on launch day.

I too thought it was a bad idea and that I was a total newbie, although
I have been marketing well over 1.5 years...

To create a powerful WSO-you have to gain trust first, that's why
in order to launch a successful WSO that is going to make you
$$$ in 24 hours, you'll have to create couple of products first and
slow but steady gain TRUST of the community.

Don't worry, you'll be just fine, as we all

Igor

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SyndicateMarketing

14 years ago

Don't give up buddy! Everything will be alright

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Jack Duncan

14 years ago

UFG,
Let me see if I can give you some really practical advice for your upcoming launch.

Question #1: How many people visited your WSO?

If you don't have the EXACT number...you're missing one of the most important pieces to the puzzle.

Question #2: Did you try Split Testing your WSO Threadline...It makes a HUGE difference.

Question #3: What time did you post your WSO?

Question #4: How long was your WSO in the first 10 spots?

Question #5: Did you split test your WSO copy?

Question #6: What was your CTR% to the order page?

Question #7: Did you test your price?

A WSO offer is just like any other offer...it takes a lot of testing and tracking to get them to work.

And if we don't test and measure, we cannot improve.

It's funny, I just heard a well known IM'er the other day, talking about a BILLION dollar company that sells info products...and their success rate for products is still only 20%...so, 8 out of every 10 products they release are DUDs...

And they have some of the greatest copywriters and staff in the world...

But they know when/how to cut their losses and improve, because they eat, drink, and sleep testing.

To your next WSO success,
Jack

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Bill Farnham

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jack Duncan

It's funny, I just heard a well known IM'er the other day, talking about a BILLION dollar company that sells info products...and their success rate for products is still only 20%...so, 8 out of every 10 products they release are DUDs...

This is also true of physical products. I spent a good deal of my career working in the Industrial Design field and witnessed approximately this same ratio of success to failure.

And many times the budgets for the projects were in the millions of dollars. The market research said the products would be a hit with consumers, the trade publications praised the products, and yet the marketplace couldn't be moved to buy the products.

Something else I noticed along these lines is that "timing" appears to be a lot more critical in the success of any given product than is generally acknowledged. You may think you have everything constructed properly to ensure the success of the product, but in fact, your timing can be a bit off for any number of reasons.

This could be your tenure on the forum, as has been brought up, or more generally speaking it could be the competition has rendered your product stale in the minds of your target buyers (down trending), or your product is so new a hungry market hasn't had time to form yet, as examples.

One thing to keep in mind is that everytime you see someone touting a 'formula' to follow it is generally something they had success with (not always), and many times they attribute that success to factors they believed they controlled, when if fact their success may have been serendipitous.

Just look at all the failures Google has racked up with some of their products. So you're in good company...

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Sparhawke

14 years ago

Originally Posted by UFG

[CENTER]It is hard to fail, but it is worse never to have tried to succeed.
Theodore Roosevelt[SIZE=3]

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CpaApp

14 years ago

WOW I really like reading all the positive feedback from the members and moral support for UFG. Glad it see it.

The only other thing I could say to UFG is thats it show through in your post that you "know" you product is the best. Write up a few more sales copies and pour that love onto the page, it will come through there too.

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Imran Naseem

Banned 14 years ago

I think people should understand that the WSO marketplace is a place where you can test the market. Of course your aim should be to make a lot of sales but I can remember my first ever 2-3 WSOs flopped....so I rewrote my copy, added more information and gave more value to my WSO..

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Mukul Verma

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Imran Naseem

I think people should understand that the WSO marketplace is a place where you can test the market. Of course your aim should be to make a lot of sales but I can remember my first ever 2-3 WSOs flopped....so I rewrote my copy, added more information and gave more value to my WSO..

Well said Imran.

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BrainCopy

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Imran Naseem

I think people should understand that the WSO marketplace is a place where you can test the market. Of course your aim should be to make a lot of sales but I can remember my first ever 2-3 WSOs flopped....so I rewrote my copy, added more information and gave more value to my WSO..

It's funny that you mentioned that. I actually just finished "re-constructing" everything. It will be back up soon. Thank you for the advice Imran.

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Anthony

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harro1

14 years ago

Reviews and reputation is what makes the difference. People don't care about the product they just see the person selling the product, if he has high reputation than anyone will purchase wso's, even if they are selling s**t products.

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juansaldivar

14 years ago

You are what you think you are, reality is a battle of perceptions.

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M_Zec

14 years ago

Hey Anthony,

is link in your signature course about make money being middleman?

Tnx

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BrainCopy 14 years ago

Originally Posted by M_Zec

Hey Anthony,

is link in your signature course about make money being middleman?

Tnx

Pm me & i'll answer all your questions. I don't want this thread to be "promotional" I'm most likely going to close this thread as well.

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M_Zec

14 years ago

Sorry i cant send Pm, i dont have 50 posts.

Will you be so kind to send me Pm regarding my question?

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Mario

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