Good Niche To Build List In?

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Hi,

Im wondering what is the best niche besides money making, acne and weight loss to build a list in?

im also wondering if the gardening niche is worth building a email list in or not. Im thinking besides gardening ebooks and products I could sale my list green related products too right?

But im wondering if I should be building a list in a different niche or is this one just as good as any. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonB
    Originally Posted by coreytucker View Post

    Hi,

    im wondering if the gardening niche is worth building a email list in or not. Im thinking besides gardening ebooks and products I could sale my list green related products too right?

    But im wondering if I should be building a list in a different niche or is this one just as good as any. Thanks

    I don't know if its worth building a list for, but I think I'm going to put together a video for this...

    I just might have found the niche I was looking for to create that funny ace video of me gardening....
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  • Profile picture of the author mario3
    If you can sell them more than just one product, why not?
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  • Profile picture of the author coreytucker
    well it seems like a profitable niche. But not as profitable as weight loss maybe?
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    I have a gardening list.

    They don't buy a darn thing.

    The visitors that get to my site via organic search buy a ton of gardening tools so I know people that are interested in buying gardening stuff, just not from an email and they don't seem to be at all interested in ebooks.

    But, that's just my experience - I'm probably going about it all wrong or something.

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    • Profile picture of the author la dominatrix
      Originally Posted by cashcow View Post

      I have a gardening list.

      They don't buy a darn thing.

      The visitors that get to my site via organic search buy a ton of gardening tools so I know people that are interested in buying gardening stuff, just not from an email and they don't seem to be at all interested in ebooks.

      But, that's just my experience - I'm probably going about it all wrong or something.

      Lee
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      Can you sell them physical products gardeners are doers not readers, and there is so much free info anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Ranger
    See if there are competitors in this niche building a list.

    The only way to find out is by checking out competition or by jumping in and testing.

    I would of thought there was a nice scope for products.. organic related growing, start your own veg patch, growing tomatoes etc..
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  • Profile picture of the author coreytucker
    hmm...interesting. Well maybe I should ask then what is a profitable niche to build a list in. I do not want to build a make money list, weight loss, or acne list. Anyone have a profitable niche to build a list in? Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    I had a pretty successful gardening tools site, but it was Adsense and affiliate commissions. I never got the feeling it would do well with a list, but I say try it. You'll know with relatively few subscribers if there's potential in it.

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author coreytucker
    I know the gardening niche is profitable for sure....but is building a list in it profitable?
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  • Profile picture of the author coreytucker
    Im eager to build a list I just do not want to waste my time with a unprofitable niche
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    Hmm... well I'm no expert but I tend to think that those niches with desperate buyers might be best.

    The reason I say that is that I tend to do a lot of hobby type niches - gardening, home decorating, fish tanks etc... and I have lists in all those but the people on the lists don't really buy stuff. Of course, I should add that I don't try really hard either.

    I've had better luck selling stuff to people on my lists in weight loss and quit smoking, but building up those lists isn't easy as those areas are rather competitive.

    I think the thing about my gardening/home decor niches is that all the info people want can be found for free on the web so my ebooks are not that useful to them.

    But if you could add value in one of those niches with something that wasn't readily available for free and that people wanted .....
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    • Profile picture of the author xatsmann
      Originally Posted by cashcow View Post

      The reason I say that is that I tend to do a lot of hobby type niches - gardening, home decorating, fish tanks etc... and I have lists in all those but the people on the lists don't really buy stuff. Of course, I should add that I don't try really hard either.

      I've had better luck selling stuff to people on my lists in weight loss and quit smoking, but building up those lists isn't easy as those areas are rather competitive.

      I think the thing about my gardening/home decor niches is that all the info people want can be found for free on the web so my ebooks are not that useful to them.

      But if you could add value in one of those niches with something that wasn't readily available for free and that people wanted .....
      Interesting that you say that since what I have been reading is that you should start with a hobby that interests you so that it is easier to develop a site. I have had the sneaking suspicion that I would run into the problem that you're having, viz., would people want to spend that much money on a "hobby" site. Can you build a sucessful hobby site, either with info products or as an affiliate? If so, does anyone have one they can show me?

      I also have a follow up question aboutyour problem with your e-books: is it possible to sell a profitable e-book that is not primarily directed to IMers? I'd love to see one just to get an idea of what the landing page and marketing letters look like. Right now all I can find are people selling "how to" to other people wanting to sell--seems like a tautological proof to me, e.g., I sell my book of how to sell to you as proof that I can sell.
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    • Profile picture of the author mycityconnect
      Originally Posted by cashcow View Post

      Hmm... well I'm no expert but I tend to think that those niches with desperate buyers might be best.

      The reason I say that is that I tend to do a lot of hobby type niches - gardening, home decorating, fish tanks etc... and I have lists in all those but the people on the lists don't really buy stuff. Of course, I should add that I don't try really hard either.

      I've had better luck selling stuff to people on my lists in weight loss and quit smoking, but building up those lists isn't easy as those areas are rather competitive.

      I think the thing about my gardening/home decor niches is that all the info people want can be found for free on the web so my ebooks are not that useful to them.

      But if you could add value in one of those niches with something that wasn't readily available for free and that people wanted .....

      To add a bit to the above...

      I would suggest an approach where you can regularly send your list "targeted" and "time sensitive" messaging.

      I have never marketed in this area, so I am going to make a few assumptions on their buying habits.
      - 5%-20% are hyper-active gardeners who are fanatical, I mean they really live for it (to the point where other people might think are a bit odd or lonely). They know the products and supplies they like to use but are open minded to finding better ones and are also going to be very open minded to learning some new tricks to make their tomatoes the size of a bowling ball. These super gardeners are not afraid to spend money on their craft.
      -80% are active garders at a minimum, (otherwise why would you EVER opt-in to a gardening site?) These guys are new gardeners or old pros that enjoy it, but aren't complete loons about it.
      - Tradionally, garden supplies is a product purchased locally, but like any other product, if a value/convenience proposition can be made to buying online, I am sure more and more is sold each year online. Some niche or speciality products may be difficult to purchase locally.
      - They are online to learn more about some gardening tips and are decently happy with the info they get. They probably would find it odd to pay money for info.

      OK, now what would I do with the above assumptions?
      1. Every email would include with one fantastic, timely gardening tip.
      " It's June 10th, and the top carnation growers in the North East are prepping their soil to get ready for the upcoming planting season. Ms. Nora Tulipolis, 3x world champion carnation grower recommends an organic soil prepper mix consisting of beagle poo and CARNATION PRO SOIL PREP.
      This will position your site as an source of expert info and later a source of expert purchase opportunites.

      2. If possible provide an offer that solves the TIP, (and todays special deal!!!: (wait for it.....) 11 Top Beagle poo collection secrets Ebook (which is awesome, I got sucked in and bought it) and 10% Off CARNATION PRO SOIL PREP.

      3. If not, provide an offer that is relevent to the planting season or has a special discount or limited time coupon or discount....u need to find something to create urgency (don't miss this money saving deal) or timliness (don't be late for carnation season) or something else (obviously I know nothing about gardening).

      4. Info (ebook) would need to be info that you cannot easily find on your site or other gardening resources and AGAIN, targeted as possible. How to grow tropical plants will not sell well in Michigan.

      4. When you create your opt-in list consider adding some targeting capabilities such as location, favorite gardening types, etc. You could segment your list and market very specific deals based on location (Liek in the cold weather, the seasons play a factor)

      That's my 2 cents...but I personally would not be hesitant to dabble in an area, if you have some basic expertise (or are willing to learn and study it). In fact, imo, 70% of this game is becoming proficient in understanding the consumer and how they react. A niche area can provide you with "barrier to entry protection" from competitors who do not possess your unique knowledge. It's a bit easier to come up with marketing ideas for health products, and other crowed areas. I would also guess that the agrdening supply and ancillary businesses is a multi-billion dollar business and bigger than you think.

      Hope this helps and welcome additional thoughts..
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  • Profile picture of the author humbledmarket
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    Originally Posted by coreytucker View Post

    Hi,

    Im wondering what is the best niche besides money making, acne and weight loss to build a list in?

    im also wondering if the gardening niche is worth building a email list in or not. Im thinking besides gardening ebooks and products I could sale my list green related products too right?

    But im wondering if I should be building a list in a different niche or is this one just as good as any. Thanks
    While personally I'd only stick with IM but if you could find a desperate list where you can constantly market to you might want to give it a try as well.

    Weight loss seems to be a good niche as well as possibly make up and skin such as acne pimples and eating healthy.

    Those are only my own opinion and suggestion I cannot guarantee it'll be worth your effort however the reason is people in those niches might be willing to spend money as they would spend on a manicure or facial cream and you might be able to have constant promotions to them.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
      You can build a list in virtually any niche that has advertisers. Also think about niches where people are hungry for information. You can further divide those people into:

      1. People who need answers NOW (health-related, breaking up, stopping divorce, etc.).

      2. People who need information in order to solve a problem

      Now go forth and prosper......

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  • Profile picture of the author coreytucker
    thanks for the advice guys However, im confused still a bit. Lets say I build a list in the "breaking up niche" but these people get back together with their ex's and now what?

    I have already started building my gardening niche and only have 11 double opt in's so far. I just don't want to waste time if the niche is no good for list building. But the desperate niches seem good for organic traffic and sales, but it seems like when they fix a problem then what?
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    • Profile picture of the author Easy_Money
      Originally Posted by coreytucker View Post

      thanks for the advice guys However, im confused still a bit. Lets say I build a list in the "breaking up niche" but these people get back together with their ex's and now what?

      I have already started building my gardening niche and only have 11 double opt in's so far. I just don't want to waste time if the niche is no good for list building. But the desperate niches seem good for organic traffic and sales, but it seems like when they fix a problem then what?
      Perhaps with a subject like "breaking up" you could look at other issues that these individuals might be interested in. Maybe they need to rebuild trust. Maybe they need to learn how to get over their jealousy issue. Is there a product out there for that? Maybe a book on amazon? Could you make a product?

      Same for weight loss. Just because they got skinny again doesn't mean that they don't have a cellulite problem. If you sell impotency products don't assume they are happy because that issue went away. Sell them a product to be a better lover.

      Find other issues that they may have as well. Sell them gardening tools through a dropshipper, then give them tips on gardening and sell them the ultimate secrets to getting the biggest, juiciest, tastiest, brightest, prize-winning tomatoes.

      Connect related problems and issues. Until you tell them, they might not even realize that they have the problem that you are offering the solution for.
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  • Profile picture of the author coreytucker
    yea the dating niche sounds good. Anyone have any advice on this if it works? It is saturated but it seems like just writing a ton of ezinearticles would add a lot of subscribers to my list right?
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  • Profile picture of the author coreytucker
    Hmm.....im thinkining the dating niche is good actually. Lots of products. I could promote the dating list other products like keeping your girlfriend happy etc right?
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  • Profile picture of the author filiks
    hi

    getting people to opt in to your list and making some money out of them [especially if you are into the niche you mentioned "gardening"] shouldn't be that difficult

    im saying this not because im in that niche but because i know that such hobby niche could at times be very profitable

    all you need to do is to find how they will need to improve their gardening experience

    you can write a free report to gauge their pulse and see how they respond

    there is no niche that does not have its problems you just have to find a solution to such problem.

    check out where most of them hang out to discuss gardening issues and im sure you will be able to see what most of them will long to have to improve these experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author brieat
    I honestly not sure if you want to build a list on gardening tips, doesn't seem like a big money maker. Stick to industry with known buyers -- health, wealth and relationships niche. No need to reinvent the wheel or find tiny niches -- just sell in a big market since there are so many buyers.
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    • Profile picture of the author madzseo
      Betting maybe a good niche to do listbuilding for - you could sell them a lot of stuff. There are several types of online betting - horse racing, poker, casino, blackjack etc. Those who are interested in betting may also be interested in dating and adult entertainment and when they're out of money from too much betting send them an email about how a 20-something bankrupt guy went from 0 to millions in a week
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  • Profile picture of the author fletd09
    It's best to pick a Niche where you can promote a range of products to you list, keep your options opened.
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  • Profile picture of the author ishboo
    Hey Corey,

    To answer your question straight. The answer is absolutely YES!

    I know because of a very successful Warrior who Allen Says himself has written about in some of his past posts that may no longer be available. The marketer I am speaking is Mike McGroarty and his website is right here:

    Really Cool Gardening site, free gardening Ebook, free potting bench plans, grow your own plants for free.

    He makes a LOT of money online JUST from this niche. So don't let anybody tell you any different. Also, notice one thing, his site is NOT all fancy and graphically enhanced like so many of the sites you see in our niche. That's because this type of site works BEST with his market.

    So, study his site, and remember to study your market. Think like them. Get their demographics, psycographics, and define their socioeconomic status. It will tell you what they like. Hope this helps
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  • Profile picture of the author filiks
    i know there must be somebody making money out of this!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Murphy
    I'd say that niches that are good candidates to build lists in are the ones with a pain or problem to solve or a high degree of passion.

    Weightloss, fitness, golf, debt, relationships/dating, most hobbies that people spend crazy amounts of money on.

    Ones to avoid are the ones that may attract buyers but not necessarily people you'd like to interact with. Yeast infection sufferers, reverse cell phone site users, any trial offer found on the CPA networks where they are put into forced continuity or an auto re-bill situation like Hoodia, resveratrol etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author coreytucker
    thanks so much guys!!! LOL.....looks like the gardening niche could work But im thinking a safer bet would be the relationship niche as in how to get girls. Im sure this would be a profitable niche to build right?

    I suppose I could build a list in the gardening niche and the relationship niche right? Test them out and see which one works best! This sounds like an idea.....after all why limit myself to one list right?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    You can build a list in any niche in which people buy and YES it is a
    good idea to build a list
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  • Profile picture of the author juansaldivar
    I think the right formula is knowing if the niche has a) high passion with rabid buyers or a niche that wants a desperate solution to a big problem b) they spend money on the niche (and great if they have big pockets) and c) the niche has a possibility of a backend opportunity. So you can sell them over and over again. That may help.

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  • Profile picture of the author SeanIM
    Niches with money to spend and/or urgent needs.

    eg; investors > how to get my kid out of jail
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  • Profile picture of the author Igor Kheifets
    As long as the niche you're in is filled with people who
    are ready to pay money-you're going to be just fine.

    Just make sure to choose a niche where people have some
    kind of a irrational passion about the topic-so they're definitely
    going to spend money on it.

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  • Profile picture of the author Big Al
    : ) I think you're thinking too much!

    Pick one that other people are building a list in and has lots of affiliate products to promote.

    One where people already spend money repeatedly, congregate online (eg. forums) and has lots of obvious affiliates.

    Personally I've spent weeks trying to decide and should have just choosen one and got it up and in place quick. Ask yourself "Are other people building a list and making money".

    Then give yourself an hour to find several and pick the one with the best gut feel.
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  • Profile picture of the author DrGUID
    Omg B2C lists are done to death. Why not target B2B. Use your previous day jobs for ideas.
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  • Profile picture of the author coreytucker
    thanks guys. I know people are building list in the gardening niche and having success. I think im going to give the gardening niche and the relationship niche a go and see what happens. Im going to give thanks to everyone who helped Anymore feedback would be appreciated too
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  • Profile picture of the author Vanquish
    Make sure you have multiple products to sell and the market is desperate but not overly desperate.

    Example someone who is looking to make money may hold off for a few days before purchasing products but someone with a yeast infection does not want to be put in a list because he or she needs a solution to their problems right NOW!
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  • Profile picture of the author JayPeete
    Originally Posted by coreytucker View Post

    im also wondering if the gardening niche is worth building a email list in or not. Im thinking besides gardening ebooks and products I could sale my list green related products too right
    That niche will be seasonal but it is a profitable one.

    I also think that you could sell them green related products as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author gkutz1
    Built a list of Farmville players but dont seem interested in buying anything. Suppose they play the game for free so cant expect them to buy much (in hindsight)
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  • Profile picture of the author raffebahanudin
    Was sold as a product and can collect a list....


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  • Profile picture of the author CrocGena
    Originally Posted by coreytucker View Post

    Hi,
    Im wondering what is the best niche besides money making, acne and weight loss to build a list in?
    You've forgotten Anti-aging - this niche is always hot.
    Also all sexual health-related for men and beauty-related things for women - this is not only about acne.
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