Advice on a directory site

by liban
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This past week we had a meeting with a group of individuals that has spent a great amount of money developing a directory site for local businesses. Local businesses pay $250 per month for a premium ad, and a lead forwarding service.

The site that was developed for them is poorly designed, not user friendly unattractive, and totally, unbelievably unfriendly for search engines. The group called us in for advice on how to proceed. They already realize that they are getting no traffic, and their advertisers are getting no clicks or leads. They have considered using Adwords. They are seriously looking for direction - and they've asked me for help. And they will pay.

But, I'm at a loss. Their website is horrible, their business model is flawed, their competition is fierce. They're not only competing with the local newspaper's popular directory, but they're up against Google and Yelp and some other local directories. We're not talking about a huge directory - they'll only have about 10,000 listings.

We have a few ideas - but are also toying with the idea of telling them to chuck it. We'd love to work with these guys - but not if it is a project that isn't going to make them money.

Any suggestions?
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  • Profile picture of the author Damien Roche
    This is sketchy and will likely split a crowd. The thing is, imagine a ghost writer turns down work because they don't believe the client's 'ebook' will make any money?

    You really have to approach this like a business. If it were me, I would, without a doubt, express my concerns. I'd tell them exactly what you've just told them. Chances are, they realize it themselves.

    At least then, you don't feel bad. If they insist on work being done, then do your best. That's all you can do but you're not running a charity.

    ..and I don't think it's wise to be in the business of losing business
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  • Profile picture of the author Mukul Verma
    Damien right.

    Also to add, $250 for a single website, thats a lot these days. The business model has to be changed.

    I would believe websites like this, have to first go with a free approach before they generate revenue. I know a local guy who is getting 200 visitors a day using the free approach and Jan 2011 will start charging. I think thats a better business model. Back to $250, I dont know many business's that would pay that unless you are a SUPER start website, I think yellow pages is cheaper.

    Cheers,
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  • Profile picture of the author Will Cole
    Hi Kayla,

    From the looks of it they need a lot of improvements, but that just means more business for you, right?

    Do you know what kind of success they have had in selling their spots thus far? You mentioned they have sold some, but not sure how successful they have been. If they have had difficulty selling spots they should consider giving one free 6-month listing in each business category. For example, get one auto body shop to sign up for the free 6-month listing. Then they should use that to sell to the other body shops. "Look, Joe's Body Shop is already listed with us. If you don't want to get left behind, you'll want to jump on this."

    As for the web design and SEO perspectives, I don't think the web design is too important. I've seen and worked on many local directories that have been absolutely hideous yet have been very successful. The content is going to matter much more. They should focus on having local content that isn't anywhere else, or at least compile all the local content from everywhere. People need a reason to go to the directory, use it, and come back.

    For traffic, they may want to start a PPC campaign and run it for a week. During that week they should revamp their pages to be SEO-friendly. Do some keyword research for them and help them optimize on-page. Throw a few links in there and they should start to rank for many of their terms. Even if they're getting traffic for un-competitive terms, people will start to use the website and check out the more competitive ones too. For example, someone may find the site looking for a florist, but then also check out the real estate section if they're looking to move. Real estate keywords are more difficult than the florist keywords to rank for, but because they're all on the same site it's fine for now (and you can rank for the more difficult ones over time).

    That's what I got off the top of my head right now, hope something in there helps you.

    Will
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  • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
    Originally Posted by liban View Post

    . Local businesses pay $250 per month for a premium ad, and a lead forwarding service.

    The site that was developed for them is poorly designed, not user friendly unattractive, and totally, unbelievably unfriendly for search engines. The group called us in for advice on how to proceed. They already realize that they are getting no traffic, and their advertisers are getting no clicks or leads

    Any suggestions?
    tell them they are dreaming
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  • Profile picture of the author liban
    We're going to be very honest with them about the odds, and then refer them to others if they want to continue. So - who's the best SEO team - that offers a referral program, of course!
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