Psychology Lessons From The "Pickup Artist"

I think they are colleagues because they worked with each other a lot.

A lot of dating and seduction tips have foundations in sales/marketing concepts (ie. The Yes Ladder)

It's all related... marketing, sales, pick-up, NLP...

We are always selling/marketing even if we don't realize it... when you're trying to convince a girl to go out with you, you have to sell yourself... some people go overboard with hard-selling (hey look at my gold watch!) which turns people off... some do it more subtly... like telling stories of exotic vacations (and this leads them to visualize going on such trips with you... recalling previous vacations they had and generally creating positive anchors)

Ya sure...when you are trying to impress any person, it mins exactly you are selling yourself.The main thing is that ,how confident you are with your lines.

Had no idea pick-up "gurus" are now into Internet Marketing. Actually, I first was into magic, then into the pick-up thing, only now got to IM

It works the other way as well.
Turn your IM game into your club game and you'll not only get a date, but you might sell her something too!

Actually, your confidence is less important than your capacity to read someone else and understand what drives them.

What seduction gurus fail to grasp about women (or pretty much everything, really) and that marketers miss in exactly the same context is that it's not about your ego payoff - it's about THEIRS. As long as you're so caught up in your agenda, how much you score, how much you make, how many more for a quota, what number this one means to your bottom line, you're ignoring the reality there is someone else there paying attention to you, who recognizes there is no natural rapport or synch happening, and who sees through anything you say as transparent BS.

Seduction guys never actually "score" with chicks because they could care less about understanding chicks, or dealing with chicks or what makes chicks tick, or anything about any individual chick they're dealing with...she's a target, she's a hot babe, she's a casualty...they never see HER.

Marketers do the same thing...customers, targets, clicks, $$$...but never see who it is behind the wallet, what drives them, what they're hungry for.

Mystery is a world class idiot without a shred of a clue about anything. He no more understands human nature than a head of lettuce. He needs ploys because he has nothing else to offer. Marketers need gimmicks because they really don't believe in the product's ability to sell itself.

You don't need confidence as much as you'd need a clue about the one with the purse - in both cases

It's all about confidence and how you handle a situation carefully which also applies in marketing.

lol. nice one dude. :-)