Are You Afraid To Launch Your Stuff?

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I have been working with a lot of marketers for years now and one thing that has jumped out at me is that people in this business spend years learning how to make money online. I think many learn for years before they take action and implement anything.

For example, one dude I was talking to recently said he's been spending all of his time learning for the past year. I asked him what he was learning and he said, "different formulas".

Well, if he was learning the basic fundamentals of direct response marketing, that would be fine to learn for a year I guess, but formulas?

If you spend a year learning different formulas... and wait a year to finally implement those formulas... then what you learned a year ago might not work anymore. I mean, the Internet changes fast and things I did a year ago have changed drastically.

... Not the fundamentals, but formulas often do.

Besides, why would you learn for a year or more before taking any action or implementing anything? The more I think about it, the more I think it's best to just simply implement.

Maybe spend 10 or 15% of your time learning... maybe 25% max... but the rest of your time should be implementing stuff you learned. I brought this up recently in a group session and asked questions. I mean, some have been at this forever and still dont implement things.

Basically, the type of answers I got were:

-- I dont feel I'm ready

-- I dont know what I'm doing yet

-- People will not believe me

-- I'm not an expert

-- I have not been able to connect all the dots fully

And so on.

One person answered and I know for a fact, she has created a lot of stuff. She's showed me and asked me to look over her copy, etc. Therefore, I've come to some conclusions...

I think tons of people work... and perhaps work hard... on their online businesses. But, those ideas and busineses are stuck on their computers lacking any kind of promotion whatsoever. Heck, I even have products and ideas sitting on my computer not fully finished. Some are years old.

Why do you think YOU... or others out there... dont launch things? Why do they not put themselves out there? Why do they not actively promote their stuff to earn money? Or, why do they not implement things?

I'll hang up and listen.

Eric Louviere
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  • Profile picture of the author activetrader
    I can't speak for others but personally for me the reason I don't always launch new stuff is becuase I become lazy and comfortable with the passive income that keeps me comfortably afloat...

    However, whenever I experience a need to raise a substantial amount of money fast (unexpected emergencies, major medical bills, etc.) I get off of my but and put together a new product.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOFocused
    i c that all the time where people are just "not ready" for no reason. while there are lots to learn, why not learn and earn at at the same time? get your project launched and keep learning, at the same time experiment with your site on what you learn.

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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Lee
    I think once they get something near done they realise that it is not worth selling or not good enough in their mind. I know I have done this many times. I normally just give it away instead putting up for sale because of that.

    Maybe they just keep thinking of things they would like to add to the product and never finish. I think some of this comes from not having an outline of what they want in the product.

    Also, they may not feel like they are truely an expert even though they wrote the thing. You can write some stuff just from research but are you truely an expert? You need to feel real confident that what you are selling is going to be of value to the customer so you can really market it.

    Putting a product together and putting websites together to sale them is not easy if you make things hard and complicated. It is all a matter of how you go about things.

    Sometimes I think it is better to put out a bare bones site then work on improving it as you go. But I know some people try to get everything set up and working with a funnel and list before starting to try to sale it. So that is a good reason it can be a lot of work to get a full system up and running to sale a product.
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    • Profile picture of the author sanssecret
      Herein lies the answer imo.

      Originally Posted by Rob Lee View Post

      I think once they get something near done they realise that it is not worth selling or not good enough in their mind.
      Honestly, in my mind, I have a need for perfection. Always been that way unfortunately. So putting something out there that I don't think is good enough is just not going to happen. Doesn't matter if others might think it's the best thing since sliced bread.

      If I could wave a magic wand for fellow IM'ers, it would be to give their confidence a boost just long enough to see a project through to completion. That really is what separates a lot of successful marketers from all the rest. Nothing more than that.

      John
      John, feel free to start waving
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      • Profile picture of the author Gary_The_Ace
        Originally Posted by sanssecret View Post

        Herein lies the answer imo.



        Honestly, in my mind, I have a need for perfection. Always been that way unfortunately. So putting something out there that I don't think is good enough is just not going to happen. Doesn't matter if others might think it's the best thing since sliced bread.

        John, feel free to start waving
        You might as well quit now. I know that if Eric, or Justin, or I had you on the phone in a one-on-one environment we'd say something like ...

        "You have 30 days, either your product is launched, or you quit this field and go get a job. It's time to stop being a sissy, stop dreaming, and make a decision. You're either in, or you're out. So, you have 30 days ... If it takes any longer than that, and you're still "not ready" yet, you're wasting your time, my time, and your money."

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        • Profile picture of the author Eric Louviere
          Originally Posted by Gary_The_Ace View Post

          You might as well quit now. I know that if Eric, or Justin, or I had you on the phone in a one-on-one environment we'd say something like ...

          "You have 30 days, either your product is launched, or you quit this field and go get a job. It's time to stop being a sissy, stop dreaming, and make a decision. You're either in, or you're out. So, you have 30 days ... If it takes any longer than that, and you're still "not ready" yet, you're wasting your time, my time, and your money."

          - G
          Hey man, I'm looking forward to your next "thing". I'm all over it and will give it my all for you man. Thanks for everything dooooooooooode.

          I owe you a lot and shall deliver the goods.

          Eric
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        • Profile picture of the author sanssecret
          Ouch!
          Originally Posted by Gary_The_Ace View Post

          You might as well quit now. I know that if Eric, or Justin, or I had you on the phone in a one-on-one environment we'd say something like ...

          "You have 30 days, either your product is launched, or you quit this field and go get a job. It's time to stop being a sissy, stop dreaming, and make a decision. You're either in, or you're out. So, you have 30 days ... If it takes any longer than that, and you're still "not ready" yet, you're wasting your time, my time, and your money."

          - G
          Good stuff though. Actually, I have a few products 'out' as it were, so I do eventually get round to facing the fact that they will never be perfect and just letting someone else decide.

          But I don't find it gets any easier. Just because I've put one up that I think "oh, if I only added this it might be better", doesn't mean I think it's ok to do it with the next one. Does that make sense?

          However, I take your point and from now on, 30 days is my time limit. Copied and pasted your reply and set on my desktop.
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          • Profile picture of the author Gary_The_Ace
            Originally Posted by sanssecret View Post

            Ouch!

            Good stuff though. Actually, I have a few products 'out' as it were, so I do eventually get round to facing the fact that they will never be perfect and just letting someone else decide.

            But I don't find it gets any easier. Just because I've put one up that I think "oh, if I only added this it might be better", doesn't mean I think it's ok to do it with the next one. Does that make sense?

            However, I take your point and from now on, 30 days is my time limit. Copied and pasted your reply and set on my desktop.
            The one thing that struck me about your original post was your line about ... it doesn't matter if they customers think it's the best thing ever, or something like that. I couldn't get that out of my mind.

            Who are you creating the products for? You, or yourself?

            Anyone else what to chime-in on this one?

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        • Profile picture of the author agrajtech11
          I was really afraid due to the reason you told. But your article has made me confident. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    Eric, you know you and I are on the same page (John Zeus from FNC here) about this one. It kills me to see so many smart folks - many of them here on this forum - who wring their hands and overthink for months and months. When all along, they had one really good idea that was valuable and could have been making them money all along.

    If I could wave a magic wand for fellow IM'ers, it would be to give their confidence a boost just long enough to see a project through to completion. That really is what separates a lot of successful marketers from all the rest. Nothing more than that.

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Louviere
      Originally Posted by Zeus66 View Post

      Eric, you know you and I are on the same page (John Zeus from FNC here) about this one. It kills me to see so many smart folks - many of them here on this forum - who wring their hands and overthink for months and months. When all along, they had one really good idea that was valuable and could have been making them money all along.

      If I could wave a magic wand for fellow IM'ers, it would be to give their confidence a boost just long enough to see a project through to completion. That really is what separates a lot of successful marketers from all the rest. Nothing more than that.

      John
      Hey man,

      What's FNC?

      Well, it's funny you posted, because we talked about this very thing on the chat the other night too. And, it's mentioned here already by someone who said fear of failure, fear of success.

      I mentioned another type of fear on that chat.

      Fear of ridicule.

      People are afraid of what others think. This is why they want it perfect, a lot of times, before they put themselves/products out there. And, it was mentioned here already - just like in the chat, that life is short. Indeed!

      What I said to that on the chat was:

      The average amount of people who will cry at your funneral (on average) is 10 people. You live your entire life, meet and get to know so many people, and on average, only 10 cry.

      AND

      The number one determining factor to how many people show up at your funeral is the weather. AND, if it rains, you can cut your funneral attendance in half!

      on average.

      Therefore, why do we all care so much about what other people think??

      Fear of ridicule prevents us from:

      -- doing videos that others will see
      -- putting our pictures on our sites, or getting in front of the camera
      -- speaking
      -- doing webinars or tele-seminars
      -- asking people to promote (jv affiliates)
      -- launching our stuff

      But then, we are still lazy at times too... and complacent... already mentioned here too. Why do we do that? Newbies who are not experts still dont have an excuse, because they can interview experts. Presto! You got a product without being an expert. In any niche.

      But yet, why the lack of launching stuff?

      Why do we hold ourselves back? Self-Confidence? Courage?

      I think this is a facinating topic myself.

      I think answering this for yourself, and fixing it, catapults everything for you!

      Just sayin'

      ~Eric
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Thorsett
    Oddly enough, (and not a direct answer to your question), I finally decided to get off my duff today and create a launch page for a product I've been working on.

    My reasons for not launching prior to this were essentially fear of failure and fear of success. My reason for actually doing something today is that I realized you only live once, and if you don't take action today, WHEN WILL YOU??

    And I feel so much better.
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  • Profile picture of the author Takroc
    I have absolutely no problem creating products and launching them. In fact I put my product up a little while ago, (after some feedback from you Eric). My problem is not lack of enthusiasm or drive or getting in front of a video camera, it's lack of knowledge on how to drive traffic to my product. Eric you did say you were still willing to help me......


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  • Profile picture of the author Dietriffic
    Yep, I've had that problem.

    I've overcome the fear now, and the product is almost ready to launch. I'm just going to wait until after my holiday.

    As the above poster though, I still have a real fear of getting in front of a video camera. That kinda bugs me, but it's true.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Product creators go through all sorts of stages as to why they don't
      release products.

      When I started, sure, it was fear...fear of it not selling.

      Now...having released maybe 50 to 100 products over the course of just
      4 years since I created my first product, it's laziness.

      Will the product make me enough money to justify creating it?
      Will it take too much time...time I'm not willing to put in?
      Will I get bored with it half way through because it's not my fav subject?

      I only release about 2 products a month now. And while I could do a lot
      more, I don't out of laziness and overanalyzing profit return.

      And I'm sure people who have products out there that are truly evergreen
      and making a mint each month probably go through this one...

      "Why should I bust my ass doing anything else when this one product is
      going to freaking sell forever and make me more money than I'll ever need?"

      Once the fear is gone, it is usually replaced by complacency, at least to
      some extent.

      For those who are so hungry for more and more, I actually envy them.

      I don't know how they do it.
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      • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        I don't know how they do it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Eric Louviere
          Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

          Caffeine, lots of it
          That might have been a joke, but there's more power in that statement than it seems at first glance.

          I remember when Jordan Hall spoke at an event. He said he wanted to provide the audience with the secret to his success. He then had an assistant pass out cans of red bull. "That's the secret to my success"... he said.

          IMO, anything that gets you to have even 10% more aggresiveness can change everything. I know one marketer (I heard) gets almost drunk before he does his videos. The reason is he get's more aggressive, it removes the edge, and removes fears... for some people.

          ...not that i'm telling you all to go get smashed or anything.

          But, to be clean here... maybe working out... jamming to some music... or even reading here... listening to some audios... or talking to an inspiring person. Anything to get yourself a little more aggressive than you are used to being normally can catapult you.

          10% more aggressive is magic.

          They say the ugliest guy in town can stand on the corner and ask every girl who walks by on a date, and get more dates than the best looking stud in town. And, Playboy had an article years ago (I do not read that, just heard about this article)... that said the best way to pick up more dates (for single dudes) is to be just a little more aggressive than everyone else. Makes sense.

          ~Eric
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          • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
            Originally Posted by Eric Louviere View Post

            That might have been a joke, but there's more power in that statement than it seems at first glance.

            I remember when Jordan Hall spoke at an event. He said he wanted to provide the audience with the secret to his success. He then had an assistant pass out cans of red bull. "That's the secret to my success"... he said.

            IMO, anything that gets you to have even 10% more aggresiveness can change everything. I know one marketer (I heard) gets almost drunk before he does his videos. The reason is he get's more aggressive, it removes the edge, and removes fears... for some people.

            ...not that i'm telling you all to go get smashed or anything.

            But, to be clean here... maybe working out... jamming to some music... or even reading here... listening to some audios... or talking to an inspiring person. Anything to get yourself a little more aggressive than you are used to being normally can catapult you.

            10% more aggressive is magic.

            They say the ugliest guy in town can stand on the corner and ask every girl who walks by on a date, and get more dates than the best looking stud in town. And, Playboy had an article years ago (I do not read that, just heard about this article)... that said the best way to pick up more dates (for single dudes) is to be just a little more aggressive than everyone else. Makes sense.

            ~Eric
            That was, and wasn't a joke...

            As I sit here right now.

            It's 11:45 pm... closing in on midnight. With 2 monitors, all tabs open, a laptop, and a stack of stuff still on my to-do list.. the one thing I always have is:

            RedBull or Coffee

            Of course, a little Brandy will follow it, once I get finished

            Jay
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            • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
              Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

              RedBull or Coffee
              Piker.

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      • Profile picture of the author butters
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        I don't know how they do it.
        They probably outsource a fair part of it, well thats my take on it anyway.
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          Originally Posted by butters View Post

          They probably outsource a fair part of it, well thats my take on it anyway.

          I know this is going to come off as very elitist of me, but if you're not
          actually creating a product yourself and just paying somebody some money
          to do it for you, you're not a product creator. You're just somebody with
          money hiring somebody else to do a job for you.

          When I said, I don't know how they do it, I meant literally, how do they
          have the strength and desire to create more products when they already
          have more money than they already know what to do with? What drives
          them to want even more?

          If there's no effort involved in the process (outsourcing) then there is
          no issue because they have nothing at risk other than a few bucks,
          which they don't freaking need anyway.

          But when they have to actually get up in the morning and put in the
          time and effort, when they're already richer than anybody, I don't know
          what drives these people.

          Anybody can toss money at a problem and make it go away.

          But to actually work at that problem when you don't need to...that takes
          dedication.

          And THAT is what I envy.
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          • Profile picture of the author butters
            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            And THAT is what I envy.
            Ah got yah , yeah I envy that to , I try to change, it just doesn't happen.
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          • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            I know this is going to come off as very elitist of me, but if you're not
            actually creating a product yourself and just paying somebody some money
            to do it for you, you're not a product creator. You're just somebody with
            money hiring somebody else to do a job for you.

            What about hiring software developers to create the product you designed and spec'd out?

            Surely you are still a product creator even if you don't do the software programming.
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          • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            I know this is going to come off as very elitist of me, but if you're not
            actually creating a product yourself and just paying somebody some money
            to do it for you, you're not a product creator. You're just somebody with
            money hiring somebody else to do a job for you.
            That's not elitist... In fact, it's quite the opposite

            I don't find success in making products, I find success in selling products!

            The very notion that you need to personally write/create each product yourself is almost alien to me.

            As I developed my father's business, we moved from a 50 product line, to over 9,000 different products.. do you think he created every single one himself??

            It's ludicrous to claim that not personally creating the products is somehow insincere.

            Do you think it takes no work to release, and sell products, even if you aren't actually creating them?

            If so, then you have a very close minded view of the world. Just because you outsource a great portion of any business, does not mean you are "just throwing money at a problem"..

            And outsourcing product creation does not make you " just somebody with
            money hiring somebody else to do a job for you"

            Again...

            I don't find success in making products, I find it in selling them

            Jay
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            • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
              Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

              I don't find success in making products, I find it in selling them

              Jay
              You don't have to create products to sell them. That's what affiliate
              marketing is all about. If I'm not going to roll up my sleeves and get my
              hands dirty to actually put my blood and sweat into creating a product, I
              might as well just pull something off the shelf that somebody created and
              promote it as an affiliate.

              Why even bother paying the outsourcing costs to have that product
              created when there are so many existing products out there that you can
              sell?

              I'm not saying your way of looking at it is wrong or my way is right. We
              just look at this process differently, and that's cool.

              I guess for me, it's more about the knowledge that I put this thing
              together with my own two hands with no help from anybody else.

              Ego? Maybe. But it's what works for me and simply saying to somebody
              "This is the product I want created...create it for me" just doesn't do it
              for me.

              Everybody is different as to what motivates them.
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              • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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                Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

                You don't have to create products to sell them. That's what affiliate
                marketing is all about. If I'm not going to roll up my sleeves and get my
                hands dirty to actually put my blood and sweat into creating a product, I
                might as well just pull something off the shelf that somebody created and
                promote it as an affiliate.

                Why even bother paying the outsourcing costs to have that product
                created when there are so many existing products out there that you can
                sell?

                I'm not saying your way of looking at it is wrong or my way is right. We
                just look at this process differently, and that's cool.

                I guess for me, it's more about the knowledge that I put this thing
                together with my own two hands with no help from anybody else.

                Ego? Maybe. But it's what works for me and simply saying to somebody
                "This is the product I want created...create it for me" just doesn't do it
                for me.

                Everybody is different as to what motivates them.

                Same reason for manually creating your own products...

                You make more money then just selling affiliate products. Even when you add in the outsourcing costs.
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                • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
                  Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                  Same reason for manually creating your own products...

                  You make more money then just selling affiliate products. Even when you add in the outsourcing costs.
                  Yeah, but that's not a given. You can create a product that's a total
                  turkey and doesn't sell for beans. Believe me, I know...I've made them.

                  Kind of like saying every product creator makes more money than any
                  affiliate marketer.

                  I am sure there are plenty of affiliate marketers out there that make a hell
                  of a lot more money than many product creators.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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                    Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

                    Yeah, but that's not a given. You can create a product that's a total
                    turkey and doesn't sell for beans. Believe me, I know...I've made them.

                    Kind of like saying every product creator makes more money than any
                    affiliate marketer.

                    I am sure there are plenty of affiliate marketers out there that make a hell
                    of a lot more money than many product creators.
                    By your logic, Steven, there shouldn't be any product creation at all. It takes time to create your own products when you could be pursuing affiliate marketing.


                    Time is far more valuable then outsourcing fees.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
                      Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                      By your logic, Steven, there shouldn't be any product creation at all. It takes time to create your own products when you could be pursuing affiliate marketing.


                      Time is far more valuable then outsourcing fees.
                      Well, actually, that's my point. As I said, my reason (and this is just me)
                      for creating products is pride and nothing else. It's not about how much
                      money I can or can't make. It's putting something together that somebody
                      says, "Hey, that's really good."

                      As I said, these are just my feelings on the matter and not meant to be
                      an either right or wrong thing.

                      If I were in this just for the money, trust me, I'd find better ways to do
                      it than I'm doing it now.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Eric Louviere
                        IMO, you can make more as a product owner than an affiliate of a product.

                        Depends on all sorts of things, and that debate can go deep, but as a product owner, you have some clear advantages. For one, you control the sales process... the up-sells and down-sells... where there's tons of profits.

                        For example, I was an affiliate marketer for CB products and used to send traffic through my link to the CB salesletter. It was a challenge to profit versus PPC costs.

                        Then, I sent the traffic to my own squeeze page, then funneled them to the CB salesletter (and hit them with other aff offers). Then, I started making money.... more profits.

                        Then, I had another problem. If I spent $100 today on PPC and made $100 in profits, I had to wait and wait for the check to come it so I could reinvest that money into more traffic.

                        Then, I started my own little ebook product, sold it for $5 via paypal button. I made instant income daily. Then, I hit them with other similar offers in the backend (other $5 or $10 ebooks). My income went up even more.

                        Then, later, I figured out that upsells (yeah, the one's most people here complain about) made even more profits! Then, I figured out that affiliates selling for my stuff was as cool as the other side of the pillow for profits!

                        Being an affiliate is fine and dandy, and a very good way to make money. I do it all the time, but products and sites that sell those products, can also be SOLD for good money (sell the site/business).

                        Anyway... to each his own

                        ~Eric
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                        • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
                          fear of failure is one thing, but another problem that has happened to some of us and that is there is so much c**p happening in their lifes that they are simply overwhelmed and too darned tired to complete projects. But they have incredible ideas, if only they would just chill and take baby steps if they have to, to just finish one project right!

                          does that sound familiar to anyone?
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                      • Profile picture of the author Robert Puddy
                        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

                        Well, actually, that's my point. As I said, my reason (and this is just me)
                        for creating products is pride and nothing else. It's not about how much
                        money I can or can't make. It's putting something together that somebody
                        says, "Hey, that's really good."

                        As I said, these are just my feelings on the matter and not meant to be
                        an either right or wrong thing.

                        If I were in this just for the money, trust me, I'd find better ways to do
                        it than I'm doing it now.
                        Even if i outsource everything...

                        its still something i put together that somebody will say hey thats really good.

                        out sourcers follow my plan, my instructions and create whats in my head. they did the time consuming physical labour but i created it.

                        Its my blood and my sweat on it

                        Robert
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                          I pray newbies are reading this thread because this is one of the best threads I've seen in a long time on the forum. It's stuff like this that keeps people coming back. It doesn't happen that often when you get a thread with meaty content like this but when it does you never forget it. Just hit the bookmark button.
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        • Profile picture of the author Sara Young
          I was really afraid before I launched my first product.

          It was about 8 months ago. Until then I was only doing affiliate marketing.

          I remember being afraid the launch. I had to push myself through to actually get it done, and the thought of canceling it in the last minute crossed my mind many times.

          What was I afraid of? That it wouldn't be good enough? That it wouldn't sell? I can't even remember the exact reason. Just the fear...

          That was only with the first product, though. Now I really enjoy launching new things and look forward to it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Eric Louviere
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        Product creators go through all sorts of stages as to why they don't
        release products.

        When I started, sure, it was fear...fear of it not selling.

        Now...having released maybe 50 to 100 products over the course of just
        4 years since I created my first product, it's laziness.

        Will the product make me enough money to justify creating it?
        Will it take too much time...time I'm not willing to put in?
        Will I get bored with it half way through because it's not my fav subject?

        I only release about 2 products a month now. And while I could do a lot
        more, I don't out of laziness and overanalyzing profit return.

        And I'm sure people who have products out there that are truly evergreen
        and making a mint each month probably go through this one...

        "Why should I bust my ass doing anything else when this one product is
        going to freaking sell forever and make me more money than I'll ever need?"

        Once the fear is gone, it is usually replaced by complacency, at least to
        some extent.

        For those who are so hungry for more and more, I actually envy them.

        I don't know how they do it.
        Hey Wags,

        I hear you. I hear you indeed.

        This is something I've thought about a lot too. One thing about laziness or complacency is the elephant story... about in India how they train Elephants with ropes. They train them as young elephants with ropes, and they pull them around all over the place with a rope. The elephants get used to that rope and eventually give up fighting the power of that damn rope.

        Then, later on when they are huge and powerful elephants, you can still pull them around all over the place with just a tiny rope. We do the same to ourselves, and limit ourselves, and put caps on what we can accmoplish all the time.

        We are equipped (each of us) to be great... but through conditioning (ropes)... we continue to limit ourselves to higher levels. Sure, sometimes it's just good old fashioned laziness... other times it's good ole fashioned self inflicted "limits" -- elephant ropes!

        May our elephant ropes be gone!

        ~Eric

        PS - I just realized IE does not have spell check when I post. That's not good. for me.
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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        "Why should I bust my ass doing anything else when this one product is going to freaking sell forever and make me more money than I'll ever need?"
        Because it's not about the money or the sales.

        It's about the principle of the thing.

        Here's my basic goal, right here. I want three products out there.

        I want one that anyone with an internet-connected computer could use to make $100 in two hours without spending a dime of his own money.

        I want another one that same guy can use to make $1,000 in a week without spending more than $50.

        And I want another one that same guy can use to make $10,000 a month without spending more than $500.

        That's what I want. I want those three products, right there. I'll sell the first one for $5, the second for $50, and the third for $500.

        So if you've got $5 in your pocket and an internet-connected computer, you can start right now and quit your job within 90 days.

        Why 90? Because it will be at least 38 days before you can prove it works for you. And then you'll need another 30 days to prove you can do it again. And then you'll need to turn in your two weeks notice, so that's 82 days. And let's add in another week to read and digest and understand the material.

        So no matter when you may read this, however many years it's been: if I haven't accomplished that, I'm not done. That's the finish line. If I'm not there, I'm still running.

        And if I am, track me down and ask where the finish line is now. I don't know how to function without one. If I get there, I'll find another.
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        • Profile picture of the author Hanz
          Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

          Because it's not about the money or the sales.

          It's about the principle of the thing.

          Here's my basic goal, right here. I want three products out there.

          I want one that anyone with an internet-connected computer could use to make $100 in two hours without spending a dime of his own money.

          I want another one that same guy can use to make $1,000 in a week without spending more than $50.

          And I want another one that same guy can use to make $10,000 a month without spending more than $500.


          That's what I want. I want those three products, right there. I'll sell the first one for $5, the second for $50, and the third for $500.

          So if you've got $5 in your pocket and an internet-connected computer, you can start right now and quit your job within 90 days.

          Why 90? Because it will be at least 38 days before you can prove it works for you. And then you'll need another 30 days to prove you can do it again. And then you'll need to turn in your two weeks notice, so that's 82 days. And let's add in another week to read and digest and understand the material.

          So no matter when you may read this, however many years it's been: if I haven't accomplished that, I'm not done. That's the finish line. If I'm not there, I'm still running.

          And if I am, track me down and ask where the finish line is now. I don't know how to function without one. If I get there, I'll find another.
          When will these products be ready for launch, CDarklock?
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          • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
            Originally Posted by Hanz View Post

            When will these products be ready for launch, CDarklock?
            When they're done.
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            • Profile picture of the author Gary_The_Ace
              Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

              When they're done.
              There's your issue. Set a date, announce it PUBLICLY, and make it happen ...

              Just release the first one. If you can't get it done in 30 days, you're never going to make it happen ... stop dreaming.

              You're not planning, you're failing. How's that feel? Like it or not, it's the truth ...

              -G
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      • Profile picture of the author Ashley Gable
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post


        For those who are so hungry for more and more, I actually envy them.
        See I dont feel that way. I pity them. Imagine living a life where you are never content. Where you always want more.

        I have a friend who about 5 years ago bought a restaurant. It does really good and he makes a lot of money.

        Instead of enjoying all the free/family time that money brings in (which mind you is a lot, I am not talking about a normal income), he goes and buys another restaurant, and then another, and another.

        So now he owns 4 of 8 restaurants in our small town.

        As you said, he has more money than he could possibly ever spend.

        And I just think, 1 restaurant was enough to give him all he wanted, why not let 3 other people own those other restaurants?


        I mean look at Ted Turner, he owns CNN and TNT and countless other businesses...

        Yet he also owns a barbecue chain of restaurants?? 55 of them last I heard.

        Why? He doesnt need the money. Unless he is some sort of barbecue aficionado there is no other point then greed, ignorance or extreme passion - the last ones alright though


        And I know, there is nothing stopping him. It just amazes me.

        So I dont envy them.
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by Eric Louviere View Post

    Why do you think YOU... or others out there... dont launch things?
    Fear of failure.

    Full stop.

    I can't release a product without feeling on some level that this is going to go out there and everyone is going to hate it. It will not sell more than three or four copies. Everyone who buys it will demand a refund. Then they will leave a bad review and nobody else will buy it.

    Then, for the rest of my life, whenever I release a product - people will immediately respond with links to this product and all its bad reviews. I will be written up in trade magazines as the biggest loser ever to enter the IM field, and this product I am releasing will be the laughing stock of the entire industry. It will be shown in seminars as an example of how not to make a product.

    There will be a Wikipedia entry on it filled with minute description of just how appallingly bad it is, and how stupid I was to release it. There will even be an entry on me, limited to a few lines of stub that say "Author of the worst piece of crap product ever made, and an abject failure by all measures."

    Later, my children will pretend they don't know me and change their names so nobody knows we're related.

    And after all that goes through my head, I release the product anyway.
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    • Profile picture of the author Hanz
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      Fear of failure.

      Full stop.

      I can't release a product without feeling on some level that this is going to go out there and everyone is going to hate it. It will not sell more than three or four copies. Everyone who buys it will demand a refund. Then they will leave a bad review and nobody else will buy it.

      Then, for the rest of my life, whenever I release a product - people will immediately respond with links to this product and all its bad reviews. I will be written up in trade magazines as the biggest loser ever to enter the IM field, and this product I am releasing will be the laughing stock of the entire industry. It will be shown in seminars as an example of how not to make a product.

      There will be a Wikipedia entry on it filled with minute description of just how appallingly bad it is, and how stupid I was to release it. There will even be an entry on me, limited to a few lines of stub that say "Author of the worst piece of crap product ever made, and an abject failure by all measures."

      Later, my children will pretend they don't know me and change their names so nobody knows we're related.

      And after all that goes through my head, I release the product anyway.
      Agreed! Fear of failure definitely and the possible repercussions!
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  • Profile picture of the author JustinBrooke
    More heart-wrenching than people not taking action
    is that the ones who need to be commenting here
    won't because they are afraid of pointing themselves
    out instead of getting help from their peers.

    I think about what Eric has brought up a lot so that I
    can find new ways to help my subscribers.

    There are a few answers rolling around in my head...

    1.) To some the whole "IM Industry" is like a weird form
    of entertainment for where the guru's are like soap opera
    stars and launches like new episodes in the series.

    These people aren't serious yet, they are doing just enough
    to lie to themselves that they are really trying. They will
    eventually wake up though and start getting serious.

    2.) Some people have just never been told they are done learning.

    Society teaches us that we need to "graduate" before we can
    move on to applying what we have learned. But it's bad business
    for a guru to say "you're done, you have everything you need, you
    don't need to buy any more products."

    3.) We are entrepreneurs and entrepreneurs are mountain climbers
    not settlers. When we climb a mountain we don't think "Ok great now
    let me stay here." Instead entrepreneurs think "Oh look another mountain
    to climb right over there."

    What the newbies need to do is...

    Get rid of their mental garbage piles that are limiting them like fear
    of ridicule, striving for perfection, and fear of feailure.

    Then they need to give themselves a diploma so they can move
    on from learning and start doing.

    Finally they need to find a good support group whether it be a
    paid access forum or mastermind and make a plan of continuing
    education that coincides with their current direction to stay
    abreast of changing tactics/technologies.

    Whew, that was a mouthful... I been wanting to get that off
    my chest for awhile now!
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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Louviere
      Originally Posted by JustinBrooke View Post


      1.) To some the whole "IM Industry" is like a weird form
      of entertainment for where the guru's are like soap opera
      stars and launches like new episodes in the series.

      These people aren't serious yet, they are doing just enough
      to lie to themselves that they are really trying. They will
      eventually wake up though and start getting serious.
      What's up Justin? How ya doin'

      Hey, this is interesting man. I wonder what percentage of the market falls into that category. I agree with you too.

      ~Eric
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      • Profile picture of the author JustinBrooke
        Originally Posted by Eric Louviere View Post

        What's up Justin? How ya doin'

        Hey, this is interesting man. I wonder what percentage of the market falls into that category. I agree with you too.

        ~Eric
        Chillin bro, heard from Brian McElroy that you might be in Florida
        in the next couple weeks or somethin'.

        Don't pop in here too much but when I saw your name and the
        title of this thread I got hooked ;-)

        Hit up McElroy and see if you can make it to his mastermind
        thingy, I'll be out there one of the days. Would like to meet
        you finally.

        Later (back to work)
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        • Profile picture of the author Eric Louviere
          yeah, I'm in Naples for the entire month of June. Might even stay for 4th of July and then head home to Austin. I'd love to stop by and meet you all there in Miami. Would like to meet you too! I dont get out to IM stuff much anymore, but miss it.

          Yeah, I have not posted here in a while (too scared of Exrat) but it feels good. Go Warriors!

          ~Eric

          PS - just kidding Exrat
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          • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
            Originally Posted by Eric Louviere View Post

            yeah, I'm in Naples for the entire month of June. Might even stay for 4th of July and then head home to Austin. I'd love to stop by and meet you all there in Miami. Would like to meet you too! I dont get out to IM stuff much anymore, but miss it.

            Yeah, I have not posted here in a while (too scared of Exrat) but it feels good. Go Warriors!

            ~Eric

            PS - just kidding Exrat
            I'm scared of him too! Actually I respect him because he doesn't hold back and says things the way he sees them without sugar coating it. He reminds me so much of Simon Cowell.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    I like to remind people I coach or mentor that you must never forget that newbies are always coming along. It's like a river flowing. The same current carries you ahead of them. So you just find one thing that really helped you when you were back where they are now, and you make it simple to understand. Put it out there for them to benefit from. There's your info product. And it'll sell forever (if you market it), because the flow of new blood never ends. Then, you move farther down that river and you put out another product helping people take the next step. Or, you come out with another product that targets another thing that helped you back at the first level. As you progress in your own development, the number of possible products you can put out increases and expands out like branches on a tree.

    Remember: you already know at least one really important thing that someone newer than you does not yet know. Be the one to show them. They get helped and you make money. What could be better? Just do it. It doesn't have to be perfect or mind blowing. It just has to really, genuinely help someone newer than you.

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Benjamin
    Originally Posted by Eric Louviere View Post

    I have been working with a lot of marketers for years now and one thing that has jumped out at me is that people in this business spend years learning how to make money online. I think many learn for years before they take action and implement anything.

    For example, one dude I was talking to recently said he's been spending all of his time learning for the past year. I asked him what he was learning and he said, "different formulas".

    Well, if he was learning the basic fundamentals of direct response marketing, that would be fine to learn for a year I guess, but formulas?

    If you spend a year learning different formulas... and wait a year to finally implement those formulas... then what you learned a year ago might not work anymore. I mean, the Internet changes fast and things I did a year ago have changed drastically.

    ... Not the fundamentals, but formulas often do.

    Besides, why would you learn for a year or more before taking any action or implementing anything? The more I think about it, the more I think it's best to just simply implement.

    Maybe spend 10 or 15% of your time learning... maybe 25% max... but the rest of your time should be implementing stuff you learned. I brought this up recently in a group session and asked questions. I mean, some have been at this forever and still dont implement things.

    Basically, the type of answers I got were:

    -- I dont feel I'm ready

    -- I dont know what I'm doing yet

    -- People will not believe me

    -- I'm not an expert

    -- I have not been able to connect all the dots fully

    And so on.

    One person answered and I know for a fact, she has created a lot of stuff. She's showed me and asked me to look over her copy, etc. Therefore, I've come to some conclusions...

    I think tons of people work... and perhaps work hard... on their online businesses. But, those ideas and busineses are stuck on their computers lacking any kind of promotion whatsoever. Heck, I even have products and ideas sitting on my computer not fully finished. Some are years old.

    Why do you think YOU... or others out there... dont launch things? Why do they not put themselves out there? Why do they not actively promote their stuff to earn money? Or, why do they not implement things?

    I'll hang up and listen.

    Eric Louviere
    Trippy.

    Why do I think people don't launch their products and promote
    their products? Two reasons...

    Very, very little confidence in what they created which in turn
    leads to not wanting to promote what they created.

    It's a double whammy situation when you look at it. People who
    DON'T actively promote, market and sell are NOT confident in
    what they have to offer to promote, market, sell.

    It's impossible.

    You can have the greatest invention since the light bulb, but
    if YOU don't market it because you don't feel it's "good enough",
    it's game over.

    Why do they not actively promote to make money?

    For me it was definitely a fear of success type of deal. A "What
    will happen if I DO succeed" kinda deal. Again, comes back to
    not feeling deserving of the success one WILL achieve with a
    good promotional campagin.

    Why do people not implement?

    It feels good to dream and imagine the possiblities of success
    than it is to actually go through the PROCESS of getting success.

    It feels soooo much better to mind f**k yourself into thinking
    you ARE a success by associating yourself with knowledge that
    COULD make you rich instead of doing what WILL make you rich.

    Strangely, I know people who get's a thrill out of "possibilities",
    but hates doing the work to get there.

    Strange huh?
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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Louviere
      Originally Posted by WhoIsBenjamin View Post

      Trippy.

      Why do I think people don't launch their products and promote
      their products? Two reasons...

      Very, very little confidence in what they created which in turn
      leads to not wanting to promote what they created.

      It's a double whammy situation when you look at it. People who
      DON'T actively promote, market and sell are NOT confident in
      what they have to offer to promote, market, sell.

      It's impossible.

      You can have the greatest invention since the light bulb, but
      if YOU don't market it because you don't feel it's "good enough",
      it's game over.

      Why do they not actively promote to make money?

      For me it was definitely a fear of success type of deal. A "What
      will happen if I DO succeed" kinda deal. Again, comes back to
      not feeling deserving of the success one WILL achieve with a
      good promotional campagin.

      Why do people not implement?

      It feels good to dream and imagine the possiblities of success
      than it is to actually go through the PROCESS of getting success.

      It feels soooo much better to mind f**k yourself into thinking
      you ARE a success by associating yourself with knowledge that
      COULD make you rich instead of doing what WILL make you rich.

      Strangely, I know people who get's a thrill out of "possibilities",
      but hates doing the work to get there.

      Strange huh?
      Damn, that's a very good post. Thanks for sharing that. I think you nailed something I've been thinking about. People really do buy (maybe even addicted to) buying hope and dreams. It's kinda like seeing a bunch of people at the store scratching off lottery tickets. That dollar sure was worth that moment of "what if".

      A guy told me once he never hires anyone part time. He said part time employees dont "need" the job to feed themselves. Full timers NEED the job to eat so they do a better job and are worth the extra money.

      Many newbies prolly fall into a similar boat. It's not their food money, so it's not paramount to do it... where full timers MUST implement, or they may not eat.

      How does a newbie who does not NEED to implement, implement? I guess it's all about desire and commitment, dedication and self confidence, being very serious about this business and not just treating this business as a hobby, or pipe-dream, or lottery ticket, or just entertainment.

      Good stuff

      ~Eric
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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by Eric Louviere View Post

        It's kinda like seeing a bunch of people at the store scratching off lottery tickets. That dollar sure was worth that moment of "what if".
        Bryan Caplan's recipe for happiness on a dollar a day.

        Every day, buy a lottery ticket, take it home... and burn it.

        When your numbers don't come up, you will be so happy!

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      • Profile picture of the author Joe Benjamin
        Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

        That's not elitist... In fact, it's quite the opposite

        I don't find success in making products, I find success in selling products!

        The very notion that you need to personally write/create each product yourself is almost alien to me.

        As I developed my father's business, we moved from a 50 product line, to over 9,000 different products.. do you think he created every single one himself??

        It's ludicrous to claim that not personally creating the products is somehow insincere.

        Do you think it takes no work to release, and sell products, even if you aren't actually creating them?

        If so, then you have a very close minded view of the world. Just because you outsource a great portion of any business, does not mean you are "just throwing money at a problem"..

        And outsourcing product creation does not make you " just somebody with
        money hiring somebody else to do a job for you"

        Again...

        I don't find success in making products, I find it in selling them

        Jay
        This was educational. What I love to do is purchase products
        that already work and that's high-quality that I believe in and
        charge a premium for it. But as you said, it's still work...

        In most cases, I have to create a completely new salespage
        (work), create a squeeze page (work), create the messages
        (work), purchase domain name (work), set up hosting (work),
        set up payment processor and create a webpage for people
        to navigate and get their paid product (work), test everything
        before promotion (work).

        But not having to create the product sure as hell makes my
        life 100x easier. If I had to create the product, I would I hate
        it.

        I don't have anything to prove by being creative except in
        ways that are related to making money. Creating products
        just to have my personal stamp on it is meaningless to me.


        Originally Posted by Eric Louviere View Post

        Damn, that's a very good post. Thanks for sharing that. I think you nailed something I've been thinking about. People really do buy (maybe even addicted to) buying hope and dreams. It's kinda like seeing a bunch of people at the store scratching off lottery tickets. That dollar sure was worth that moment of "what if".

        A guy told me once he never hires anyone part time. He said part time employees dont "need" the job to feed themselves. Full timers NEED the job to eat so they do a better job and are worth the extra money.

        Many newbies prolly fall into a similar boat. It's not their food money, so it's not paramount to do it... where full timers MUST implement, or they may not eat.

        How does a newbie who does not NEED to implement, implement? I guess it's all about desire and commitment, dedication and self confidence, being very serious about this business and not just treating this business as a hobby, or pipe-dream, or lottery ticket, or just entertainment.

        Good stuff

        ~Eric
        I'm humbled you have commented on what I wrote. Normally,
        I don't expect people to comment or respond to anything I
        write, especially from someone who I know (for yeeeears) has
        been in the game.

        I STILL remember the old-school products you have out there
        (red and blue box art coverings). You were the inspiration for
        me to get me to where I am today.

        I looked at your videos in the bahamas or someplace beautiful
        and would dream of being there...you had videos about having
        financial freedom...and I would dream. And take action, and
        now I'm on course to my first low 6-figure year.

        Anyways, way off topic

        How does a newbie who doesn't need to implement, implement?

        I can't speak for every one there is, but I can say for myself
        personally it was just determination and commitment. I'm a bit
        of a adventure junkie wanting to do everything from jumping
        out of planes, scuba-diving, baha racing, weight lifting, hang-
        gliding...etc.

        I'm not one of those people who is destitute or could be a bum
        any minute. I'm very blessed in that, I have plenty of family
        members who I know would take me in even if I were kicked
        out of my current place for any reason.

        These people live in really great homes and apartments, and I
        get along with most everyone...so I would never be the person
        who rose from the ashes from hell...but I have desires that
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
    Fear of ridicule is a big one. I remember having written a few things, getting them reviewed, and was shocked to find my writing style was disjointed and confusing. To me it made sense. Maybe my mind works backwards, don't know.

    It sure slows down the enthusiasm when you are a perfectionist to start with, then find out your stuff is not up to par. You don't want to sell it to anyone for fear of giving them junk for their money.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    You have brought up a good point Eric. You're in Naples? Going to Rome and on up to Volterra next week for some rest and relaxation.

    One thing that can be done is to combine product development with affiliate marketing. I've developed a number of great little products in several niches that realistically I could never build a major product launch around. Nonetheless they are great products. I'm talking about ebooks in the 30-80 page range.

    I developed them specifically to use as bonuses in affiliate marketing campaigns. For example, when competing affiliate marketers in the IM niche get in on a product launch, most use some kind of PLR ebooks as bonuses.

    When I throw up a pre-sell page I promote the fact that the bonuses I offer are all unique and cannot be obtained elsewhere. I often give potential buyers a choice of any 2-3 bonuses I list. I have made more money from affiliate sales of products using my bonuses to entice sales than I would have ever made trying to launch them on their own.

    There is so much junk being given away as bonus material, that if you come along with some really great mini-products of your own--you can pull many more affiliate sales than many of the much bigger marketers out there.

    I guess what I am saying is that product creation doesn't necessarily have to lead to product launching. There are a lot of ways to leverage products you develop into income without launching them.

    Here are just a few examples of how you might do this.

    1. Use your products as bonuses for affiliate sales.

    2. Use them as opt-in bonuses to your list.

    3. Use them on occasion as free downloads to your list to build a good relationship with your subscribers. If you do this on occasion your open rates on your emails will increase as subscribers never know when they will get some goodies.

    4. Put an ad for one of your best products at the end of your product (ebook). Contact high profile bloggers in your niche and offer to let them offer your ebook as a free download to their visitors. This could get you a lot of downloads and each one puts your ad in front of a prospective buyer.

    5. You can also approach ezine publishers in your niche and offer the publisher to offer your product as a free download--again with and ad or two for your bigger products at the end.

    6. You can watch product launch forums (if you're in the IM niche) and contact product vendors with an upcoming launch to use your product as a bonus with their upcoming product--again, have an ad at the end for more of your products.

    7. Find successful vendors or bloggers with substantial lists in your niche and offer to let them offer your product to their list subscribers. This gives them good content to offer their subscribers--thus helping them with relationship building, and--it gets your product and the ads at the end to large numbers of potential buyers.

    8. You can search article directories for authors with larger number of articles published in your niche. They likely have good sized lists. Offer to let them offer your product to their list as a free download. Again, have ads for some of your bigger products at the end of the product you offer them.

    I once convinced one of EZA most prolific authors to do this and it resulted in a sizable number of sales within 48 hours.

    What I am really talking about is leveraging the assets of those bigger than you to your advantage. Those assets are generally either traffic or lists. You can leverage your small mini-product with the help and cooperation of the big guys to your advantage.

    Just some thoughts--my head is empty now --Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author envyusbrandon
    You shouldn't be afraid. Just get the general areas covered and have a good solid game plan and hit the ground going, adjustments can be make along the way.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    LOL - - Heysal from FNC here. (Hi John).

    Ya know -- I started in IM just about the time I figured out how to post in a forum - it was this one.

    I make products...good ones. I write my own copy. I can put up some backlinks, write and submit articles, yadda, yadda.........but when it comes to technology I couldn't be any denser if my head was made of wood. I just tried to read a thread by Michael Hiles about a launch and had no idea what the hell he was talking about - it was all about some sort of software or program of some sort from what I could tell. So much for that huh?

    So as far as why aren't people launching their products..........sometimes it's just don't know enough yet. Hell, if I had to figure out everything from scratch I'd be sitting in a corner drooling with a bunch of neat products sitting on "my documents".

    I think that's where a lot of people are right now. They know a lot about one thing, a little about a few things, and nothing about something that is loaded to the hilt with "have to know if you are going to do anything".

    All I have to say about that one is the most important skill in this game is the one that most people seem to overlook. Networking. You have to be able to network to get those products out. I'd have had no bat's chance in hell of ever getting a website online without being able to do JVs.

    With all the excuses that can come up.......I never hear anyone say that "I just don't know how to network." Which is kind of sad because I think that is a major problem for most people, and exactly what this forum is FOR, yet they don't seem to "get it".

    I've hit crisis points on all of my projects that I'd never have gotten past if it weren't for networking. I would assume that what puts the stop on a lot of people is not fear or lack of confidence. It is the idea that they have to be able to figure everything out themselves and hitting crisis points that they are not able to overcome because they aren't networked properly to get past them.
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  • Profile picture of the author webdollarz
    i am sure this thread/discussion is helping a lot of readers do a self-discovery ..

    as somebody rightly said, "you can find 100 excuses for not doing something when you only need 1 to do it"
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  • Profile picture of the author jdwfg4
    I think it takes a lot of creativity and focus to launch a product. I've launched a couple, and really its relatively simple, but you have to get creative and work hard because products don't launch themselves. Learning about things is much easier than actually doing them. I could read about running marathons all day and know everything to the T, but running one is a different game.
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    I used to be apprehensive about launching, because I am a bit of a perfectionist and I put so much effort into my products/sites that I view poor conversions/feedback very personally.

    But I get more and more confident now that I am providing quality products and services, so I really look forward to the buzz of each launch. got a new site in the works and I cannot wait to get that one out there!
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  • Profile picture of the author theultimate1
    Originally Posted by Eric Louviere View Post

    -- People will not believe me

    -- I'm not an expert
    Eric, first off... Thanks for bringing up this thread.

    As for the two lines in quote here, I am at the same line. And, here's why I think people answered that way:

    Let's assume I'm interested in selling ebooks/videos on dog training because there's a big market for it. However, I've never even touched my friend's dog, let alone having one in my Home and training it. I might be a good marketer and I can talk to people in a language they, as pet owners/friends, will understand best. But I haven't the slightest clue about dog training. I could write a good ebook by referring to a hundred articles in the public domain. But what about my sales letter? I need to tell the people why they should buy from me... and with a product like dog training material, they would want to take/buy advice from someone who's been there done that. What about producing videos? I need to produce original videos.

    You might, at this point, suggest a JV; but good JV deals don't usually happen for the new guys. How do you suggest we launch a product with only so much knowledge and material (minus experience) at hand?

    I'd really love to hear your thoughts, as your answer to this question might as well hold the key to riches for me. I'm earnestly waiting for your reply on this one.

    Thanks,
    SooRAJ

    P.S.: In fact, I think I've learned so much about IM in the last 3 years (yes, you read it right... not 1 year, but 3 years) that I could as well teach IM to people. But, do I have real world experience?! NO. And that's what's holding me back from entering the IM niche. :p
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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Louviere
      Originally Posted by theultimate1 View Post

      Eric, first off... Thanks for bringing up this thread.

      As for the two lines in quote here, I am at the same line. And, here's why I think people answered that way:

      Let's assume I'm interested in selling ebooks/videos on dog training because there's a big market for it. However, I've never even touched my friend's dog, let alone having one in my Home and training it. I might be a good marketer and I can talk to people in a language they, as pet owners/friends, will understand best. But I haven't the slightest clue about dog training. I could write a good ebook by referring to a hundred articles in the public domain. But what about my sales letter? I need to tell the people why they should buy from me... and with a product like dog training material, they would want to take/buy advice from someone who's been there done that. What about producing videos? I need to produce original videos.

      You might, at this point, suggest a JV; but good JV deals don't usually happen for the new guys. How do you suggest we launch a product with only so much knowledge and material (minus experience) at hand?

      I'd really love to hear your thoughts, as your answer to this question might as well hold the key to riches for me. I'm earnestly waiting for your reply on this one.

      Thanks,
      SooRAJ

      P.S.: In fact, I think I've learned so much about IM in the last 3 years (yes, you read it right... not 1 year, but 3 years) that I could as well teach IM to people. But, do I have real world experience?! NO. And that's what's holding me back from entering the IM niche. :p
      Good post and I can see this as a problem for many-many people. Lets answer it.

      You said you knew a lot about IM and could teach it from 3 years of learning it. But, that you have no real world experience. So, how could you enter the IM niche?

      Well, lets say you asked John Reese for an interview and he agreed. Then, since you had JR, you asked Mike Filsaime... and others. Some agreed, some didnt. You end up with a bunch of million dollar earners who DO have real world experience and results.

      Package up the product and sell it.

      On your salesletter, you would say, "I was on a mission and went out and got these studs to provide me answers. These answers are now yours for just $27". NOW, you have results yourself... real world results... and you'd even be perceived as an expert, regardless if you think you are or not.

      So, if you look at the above scenerio, and create some kind of excuse for not doing that... say you think... "yeah, but I did not do anything online myself... or people are still buying them... not me..." or other excuses, then this may not be your cup of tea.

      Marketing is sales.

      Marketing is selling stuff.

      SALES

      If I sold VOIP telephone service to businesses, so they only pay $35 per month for unlimited long distance, do I need to know how VOIP works in order to sell it? Nope.

      I have no idea how a radio works, or the GPS on my SUV. But, I could sell it.

      Or, what about affiliate programs? You're just selling someone else's stuff. When I say, afraid to launch your stuff, I mean launch anything... even affiliate offers.

      If I went to my local tax attorney and asked him for an interview, or to partner wiht me on an online product and he agreed, do I need to know jack-sh$% about taxes in order to sell the stuff?

      No way!

      Remove all obstacles and stop creating obstacles IMO. To me, there are no excuses for not launching your stuff. There's only the fake mental limits we toss up as road blocks because of fears. It's all fears. Regardless if we perceive it as fears, or admit to ourselves it's fears, it's fears.

      If you have been learning IM for 3 years, then you probably know more about IM than 99.999999999% of the population of this planet. It's up to you how you play your cards though, and how you utilize your assets and resources. It's up to you to see those 3 years as an asset/resource or tool to make money.

      And... how you perceive things in your own mind will dictate all of that. You could either say, "Eric is an ego maniac and think's he's the man, and look at him acting all high and mighty. Who does he think he is, damn punk". Or, you could look at it another way. Up to you.

      Answer this:

      "Why are you not launching things and selling things online? Why are you not making any money after 3 years of learning?"

      Write down all the answers you can think of to that above. Try it. Do it. 95% of them will be excuses. The same excuses we all have, just some of us overcome those excuses and do it anyway.

      Be the guy who does it anyway. NOt the judgemental, I'm so righteous, I'm a good person, I'm not like those evil gurus, I'm an honest stand up, perfect, guy.

      In Spider Man, peter parkers uncle said, "We might not be rich, but at least we are honest". If that's not conditioning to think rich=bad, I dont know what is. It's all over the news, the commercials, tv shows, movies, radio, friends, family, and even forums.

      You will not lose your integrity if you have integrity, just dont let excuses or fears get in your way. That's not the same thing, and dont mistake it for being the same thing.

      Eric
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      • Profile picture of the author theultimate1
        Originally Posted by Eric Louviere View Post

        Good post and I can see this as a problem for many-many people. Lets answer it.

        You said you knew a lot about IM and could teach it from 3 years of learning it. But, that you have no real world experience. So, how could you enter the IM niche?

        Well, lets say you asked John Reese for an interview and he agreed. Then, since you had JR, you asked Mike Filsaime... and others. Some agreed, some didnt. You end up with a bunch of million dollar earners who DO have real world experience and results.

        Package up the product and sell it.

        On your salesletter, you would say, "I was on a mission and went out and got these studs to provide me answers. These answers are now yours for just $27". NOW, you have results yourself... real world results... and you'd even be perceived as an expert, regardless if you think you are or not.

        So, if you look at the above scenerio, and create some kind of excuse for not doing that... say you think... "yeah, but I did not do anything online myself... or people are still buying them... not me..." or other excuses, then this may not be your cup of tea.

        Marketing is sales.

        Marketing is selling stuff.

        SALES

        If I sold VOIP telephone service to businesses, so they only pay $35 per month for unlimited long distance, do I need to know how VOIP works in order to sell it? Nope.

        I have no idea how a radio works, or the GPS on my SUV. But, I could sell it.

        Or, what about affiliate programs? You're just selling someone else's stuff. When I say, afraid to launch your stuff, I mean launch anything... even affiliate offers.

        If I went to my local tax attorney and asked him for an interview, or to partner wiht me on an online product and he agreed, do I need to know jack-sh$% about taxes in order to sell the stuff?

        No way!

        Remove all obstacles and stop creating obstacles IMO. To me, there are no excuses for not launching your stuff. There's only the fake mental limits we toss up as road blocks because of fears. It's all fears. Regardless if we perceive it as fears, or admit to ourselves it's fears, it's fears.

        If you have been learning IM for 3 years, then you probably know more about IM than 99.999999999% of the population of this planet. It's up to you how you play your cards though, and how you utilize your assets and resources. It's up to you to see those 3 years as an asset/resource or tool to make money.

        And... how you perceive things in your own mind will dictate all of that. You could either say, "Eric is an ego maniac and think's he's the man, and look at him acting all high and mighty. Who does he think he is, damn punk". Or, you could look at it another way. Up to you.

        Answer this:

        "Why are you not launching things and selling things online? Why are you not making any money after 3 years of learning?"

        Write down all the answers you can think of to that above. Try it. Do it. 95% of them will be excuses. The same excuses we all have, just some of us overcome those excuses and do it anyway.

        Be the guy who does it anyway. NOt the judgemental, I'm so righteous, I'm a good person, I'm not like those evil gurus, I'm an honest stand up, perfect, guy.

        In Spider Man, peter parkers uncle said, "We might not be rich, but at least we are honest". If that's not conditioning to think rich=bad, I dont know what is. It's all over the news, the commercials, tv shows, movies, radio, friends, family, and even forums.

        You will not lose your integrity if you have integrity, just dont let excuses or fears get in your way. That's not the same thing, and dont mistake it for being the same thing.

        Eric
        Pre-Script: Hey punk (sorry, just kidding... that's not what I thought about you, after reading your post).

        Here we start the post...

        Thanks Eric, your post was a re-assurance in many ways and an eye-opener, if I may. I see your point. I'm not going to make an excuse in this post, but face a trouble (related to integrity) that I'm facing, and I'm sure there are answers to that question here.

        Let's say I want to launch a weight loss product (e-book). I'm myself a lean person, so weight gain has always been my target, not the other way around. [Sure I could sell weight gain stuff, but let's just say I'm looking at selling a weight loss ebook.] So, I have no experience with a weight loss regime, what do you suggest I tell my site visitors in such a situation? Maybe my ebook is worth its weight in gold for them because the ways I'll write about in the ebook will be based on a lot of research. However, to connect with them, I need to tell them a story... a real story, most likely involving me. Now, I don't want to lie to them saying I lost XX kilos in X days. This is the "I'm not an expert" problem most of us have. We want to do it but we also want to be honest. Any solution to this and I'm ready to kick-start, this very minute.

        JVs are a good thing, but most new guys won't be welcomed. I've tried writing e-mails to marketers that I subscribe via e-mail to. Hardly anybody responds. Nothing wrong with that... they have too many e-mails, pretty busy lives/schedules. But, let's face it... It's all pretty commercial out there with most guys. Let's talk about an AdSwap and match the number of click-throughs, then we'll talk about other things. I'm not targeting anyone in particular here, just the general view. So, for most new entrants, JV is out of the question, I guess.
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        • Profile picture of the author Eric Louviere
          Originally Posted by theultimate1 View Post

          Pre-Script: Hey punk (sorry, just kidding... that's not what I thought about you, after reading your post).

          Here we start the post...

          Thanks Eric, your post was a re-assurance in many ways and an eye-opener, if I may. I see your point. I'm not going to make an excuse in this post, but face a trouble (related to integrity) that I'm facing, and I'm sure there are answers to that question here.

          Let's say I want to launch a weight loss product (e-book). I'm myself a lean person, so weight gain has always been my target, not the other way around. [Sure I could sell weight gain stuff, but let's just say I'm looking at selling a weight loss ebook.] So, I have no experience with a weight loss regime, what do you suggest I tell my site visitors in such a situation? Maybe my ebook is worth its weight in gold for them because the ways I'll write about in the ebook will be based on a lot of research. However, to connect with them, I need to tell them a story... a real story, most likely involving me. Now, I don't want to lie to them saying I lost XX kilos in X days. This is the "I'm not an expert" problem most of us have. We want to do it but we also want to be honest. Any solution to this and I'm ready to kick-start, this very minute.

          JVs are a good thing, but most new guys won't be welcomed. I've tried writing e-mails to marketers that I subscribe via e-mail to. Hardly anybody responds. Nothing wrong with that... they have too many e-mails, pretty busy lives/schedules. But, let's face it... It's all pretty commercial out there with most guys. Let's talk about an AdSwap and match the number of click-throughs, then we'll talk about other things. I'm not targeting anyone in particular here, just the general view. So, for most new entrants, JV is out of the question, I guess.
          I could drop some pounds. My doctor told me I should start thinking of eating a little healthier since in a couple years I'll be in my 40's. He said it would extend my life, especially since heart problems run in my family. I sure took his words of advice too.

          He was very compelling.

          Plus, the damn doctor was skinny and fit. lol

          Point being, it's all about conversions. So, a stud copywriter would have no problem selling your ebook even if you yourself are thin and have never had a personal story of weight problems. Sure, stories work well, but stories of YOU are not needed to sell. Your customer's stories can do some selling. Plus, stories are not necessarily a necessesity to converstions. They help, but it's not a prerequisite to conversions.

          You want to speak to the minds of your prospects/customers. Hit on the feelings and emotions they have. Hit on their pain. Show them a solution. Build proof. The number one reason people will not buy from you is becuase they dont believe you. Get them to believe you. Do that with proof. Give your product away to people who want to lose weight and survey them, keep up with them.

          Plus, you have something going for you more than I do. You see, you can put your skinny picture of yourself on your site and people will see you're not FAT! Me, not so much.

          lol

          Those dudes at the gym who are ripped serve as a bit of motivation when I see them. There's all sorts of ways to sell and market your ebook without creating those obstacles. Plenty of skinny people sell weight loss products. Why not you?

          I know you're not a doctor, so build credibility in other ways.... proof, case studies... etc.

          Also, give some stuff away free. Turn them on to you. Get them wanting more. IF they get what I call a "teaser" report from you and love you... there's no more convincing needed, the sale has been made. Warm people up to you, then sell them. Plus it will be their idea to buy from you, not your idea to sell to them.

          On JV's, read my post again. I did not know those gurus. I sacrificed something of extreme value to get their attention and get my foot in the door. Copywriting. You should build leverage for yourself first. Leverage:

          --- contacts
          --- copywriting & conversion skills and knowledge
          --- ability to drive a lot of traffic
          --- programming
          --- design
          --- a glowing personality
          --- a big shot on the warrior forum (respect and contacts and a following)
          --- a list (that's just traffic and conversions)
          --- etc

          If you contacted a potential JV partner and said, "Hey guru-stud, I'm a badd ass programmer and I would like to create something killer and partner with someone who has reach in the marketplace (like you). I'll do all the work and you just help me promote. How's that sound mr guru-expert-stud?"

          slam, bam, thank you for playing... you're in!

          ~Eric
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          • Profile picture of the author theultimate1
            Originally Posted by Eric Louviere View Post

            I could drop some pounds. My doctor told me I should start thinking of eating a little healthier since in a couple years I'll be in my 40's. He said it would extend my life, especially since heart problems run in my family. I sure took his words of advice too.

            He was very compelling.

            Plus, the damn doctor was skinny and fit. lol

            Point being, it's all about conversions. So, a stud copywriter would have no problem selling your ebook even if you yourself are thin and have never had a personal story of weight problems. Sure, stories work well, but stories of YOU are not needed to sell. Your customer's stories can do some selling. Plus, stories are not necessarily a necessesity to converstions. They help, but it's not a prerequisite to conversions.

            You want to speak to the minds of your prospects/customers. Hit on the feelings and emotions they have. Hit on their pain. Show them a solution. Build proof. The number one reason people will not buy from you is becuase they dont believe you. Get them to believe you. Do that with proof. Give your product away to people who want to lose weight and survey them, keep up with them.

            Plus, you have something going for you more than I do. You see, you can put your skinny picture of yourself on your site and people will see you're not FAT! Me, not so much.

            lol

            Those dudes at the gym who are ripped serve as a bit of motivation when I see them. There's all sorts of ways to sell and market your ebook without creating those obstacles. Plenty of skinny people sell weight loss products. Why not you?

            I know you're not a doctor, so build credibility in other ways.... proof, case studies... etc.

            Also, give some stuff away free. Turn them on to you. Get them wanting more. IF they get what I call a "teaser" report from you and love you... there's no more convincing needed, the sale has been made. Warm people up to you, then sell them. Plus it will be their idea to buy from you, not your idea to sell to them.

            On JV's, read my post again. I did not know those gurus. I sacrificed something of extreme value to get their attention and get my foot in the door. Copywriting. You should build leverage for yourself first. Leverage:

            --- contacts
            --- copywriting & conversion skills and knowledge
            --- ability to drive a lot of traffic
            --- programming
            --- design
            --- a glowing personality
            --- a big shot on the warrior forum (respect and contacts and a following)
            --- a list (that's just traffic and conversions)
            --- etc

            If you contacted a potential JV partner and said, "Hey guru-stud, I'm a badd ass programmer and I would like to create something killer and partner with someone who has reach in the marketplace (like you). I'll do all the work and you just help me promote. How's that sound mr guru-expert-stud?"

            slam, bam, thank you for playing... you're in!

            ~Eric
            I'm IN, and how!

            Thanks Eric... I'll be in touch with you on my progress. I'm a content writer at the moment, and I'm going to finish a few projects on hand. Then, I'm going to start with blogging - Amazon, AdSense, etc. I'll be offering blog design services. I'll try my hands at site flipping. I'll be learning Copywriting in the mean time and will offer to write a few sales letters for marketers with sizeable lists, just to see if I'm any good. Then, I'll start with product creation, will need to learn how to build great launches and see how it goes; after which I'll be running a few membership sites. That's my plan as of now. Oh and yes, not to forget... E-commerce and SaaS is what I'll be getting into, over the longer term.

            So there we are... I'm totally exposed. Call me stupid if any of you will, but that's my plan. If you read it carefully, you'll see it's building the base ground up. From a 30,000 aerial-view level, this is what I've learnt in IM.

            The next BIG gun (:p) is getting launched. Thanks again Eric, thanks all Warriors out here. Thanks to a few friends on my gmail list, thanks to a few guys on DP Forum. From now on, we're just getting started.

            Regards,
            theultimate1

            P.S.: Eric, it's a bright Sunday morning out here for me; and you've made my day already man. Please let me know if I could be of any help. I write content really well and I could write a few articles/reviews for free, for you... for making my day.
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            • Profile picture of the author Eric Louviere
              Your plan is solid. It's a "REAL" business and not some pie-in-the-sky or magic button. A good plan is important. But a good plan is only good if your implement it. Dont get distracted.

              Months from now, if you find yourself frustrated, or wondering why you just have not been able to make it big yet... I hope you remember your post. Because if you find yourself frustrated, it's only because you did not implement that plan. period.

              If you do implement it, I think you'll be the next success story to post here on the WF.

              Do it! No mercy and no excuses. Make your plan your slave to your determination.

              ~Eric
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              • Profile picture of the author Damien Roche
                Ya know, I've been 'around' internet marketing for a good 5 years now. I KNOW what works, I KNOW what you have to do to build a sustainable, passive income..but guess what? I don't live that dream. I am simply aware of it.

                Hell, I studied high level internet marketing techniques for 2 years almost non-stop. I'm talking 6 hours a day study, like I was at some casual college or something. I could have written a 100 VALUABLE how to guides by now and sold for $7 each. I mean, after your first successful product - you can now write a product about how to create successful products.. madness.

                I worked with people earning well over $10k a month - built website which generate that FOR THEM, seen exactly what it takes to run a business like this from the inside...

                ..and DESPITE all that - where am I? NOWHERE. I've barely implemented a damn thing I've learned. I never buy information products any more - I buy domains. But they just fill the need to progress in some way or another.

                I have what, like, 18 domains all focused on random ideas I've had - I want to build affiliate offer pages, I want to build a list, I want to build software products, I want to build a web development business, I want to write an ebook, I want I want I want everything to happen at the same time. My mind is all over the place and I'd safely say that's down to something bigger than information overload:

                TOO MANY OPPORTUNITIES.

                That's a huge problem.

                I am currently working on 2 things in my online business - web development and ONE product. But opportunities are distractions and I've lost all focus.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    People can't be afraid of doing it. Otherwise, they'll never have the experience to go a step further.

    Do it once. Next one will be better. And the experience acquired is priceless.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Deegan
    I hear ya Eric. I have ran into this issue my self. BUT on the flip side, we have people who put out incomplete bullsh*t or stuff that is just crap because of this "getter done" mindset.

    To many times have I seen people recommend the "just put it out there and fix it as you go along" way of doing things in IM. But you know what that to me is also a mistake. You end up putting out an incomplete product or stuff thats junk and end up damaging your reputation.

    For example there are people who sell products and then don't begin creating the products actual content till after they sell the dam thing. I understand that this may not always be a bad idea in it self but I think marketers who do this should state that they will be doing the course live, etc. (like Eben Pagen)

    Many times the vendor will promote the product in the sales letter as if it's all done and ready to go and then that turns out to not be the case...

    Now for those who may have good products but they are not pretty or polished...thats just fine and can work to your advantage with a little positioning.


    You can do what Bill Myers does, and tell people upfront that your product is not professionally done, it's abit in the ruff but that your goal is to give them the content they want and not win a presentation award.

    The point I'm trying to make in my rambling is that...Yes taking action is good. Getting over your fear of releasing a product is GOOD. Perfection is BAD...

    But for crying out loud, have some standards when you create and release a product. Ask your self how would you feel if you bought and paid xx amount of dollars for this? Put your self in your customers shoes and answer honestly.

    There's my 2 pence...

    P.S. Quick tip for those who set to HIGH standards for themselves. Work in stages get a first or second draft done and then have 3 people you trust evaluate your product (the main thing is choosing the right people). Get feedback from them. After you get good feedback from all 3 people, go ahead and launch even if you still want it perfect.

    Your want or need is to get it perfect and thats fine and you can do that over time. But your primary and first goal should be to help your customer and deliver the result your promising. When you do that in a clear, concise and complete way then move to the "getter done" mindset and put that shi*t i out there and HELP people...(assuming thats your REAL goal)
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  • Profile picture of the author jinsheng1993
    Thanks pal!
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Al
    Personally I'll go with the fear of failure / self-confidence thing. I've got two products out there and it took a while to get them out because they're was always that quesion in my mind "Will it be good enough ..." which leads to "... will have to do tons of customer support and give refunds .."

    Before you know it the negative spiral has put you off.

    It is very much - feel the fear and do it anyway. So far ... no refunds so it was a whole lot of worry over nothing.

    And that's how you gain confidence. Doing the things that make you feel uncomforable.

    Have I 'cracked it yet'? Nope ... I'll have that same fear again in the future - I just have to have the right self-talk to kick it out and get over it.

    P.S. Not too long ago I fought someone .. I had to fight someone much better than me. Was s***ing it and thought I was going to get banged out. So just to finish the fight and lose on points would've been a good result for me! Turns out I stopped him.

    Fear is a funny thing that keeps you awake, highlights danges -- but don't let it hold you back.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      You know what Eric. I now have a better understanding of why people don't
      do things.

      This understanding has come from my venturing into an area of affiliate
      marketing I've never gone into before...selling supplements.

      Man, you have no idea all the red tape and BS you have to go through
      with some of these companies just to get approval to sell their stuff.

      They have to approve your site.
      They have to approve your marketing methods.

      And on and on.

      And then, just trying to get this sh*t setup.

      I haven't done this much work in 4 freaking years.

      And it's mostly because it's an unknown area of marketing for me.

      So I can understand when somebody ventures into something new how
      it can totally blow their mind. I can only imagine what some of the
      affiliate programs out there are like to get started with.

      And forget about finding stuff.

      Sometimes it's impossible.

      News flash...one affiliate program finder, or whatever you want to call
      them, is so outdated that the first 2 programs I found through it, no
      longer exist.

      And yet, this site ranks number 1 at Google for whatever term I used to
      find it.

      So yeah, combine the hassle of just trying to find stuff with the fear of
      screwing it all up and it's no wonder people don't take action. I'm almost
      thinking of just chucking this whole idea simply because I don't want to
      have to bust my ass for something that may not even pan out anyway.

      Not when I already have a steady income coming in.

      You could probably find a dozen reasons, if not more, why people never
      get off the pot.

      This maze of "where the frick is this sh*t?" is just one of many.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary_The_Ace
    Hey All,

    In all my years working with "permanent newbies" I've discovered that the issue isn't fear of failure, or fear of success ...

    I haven't come up with the best way to explain it yet, but I hope this makes sense ...

    Most of us have dreams as children. Some want to be rock stars, some what to be famous athletes, whatever it is ... those dreams don't last much past childhood in most cases.

    Becoming a millionaire online is the grown-up version of wanting to be a rockstar, or famous athlete, but it's more realistically achievable for just about everyone on the planet than what most of us dream of when we're young.

    If you're a "guru" in your space, you have some level of fame (you're famous), you have more money (you're rich), and you have a lot more freedom (you're always on vacation in exotic locations).

    I'm not sure if I'm doing a good job of explaining this, but as long as you haven't "launched" yet, the dream is still alive ... it's still possible, and you can still do it.

    By the time you're an adult, you've realized you're not going to be a rockstar, athlete, or actor ... but, you could still be rich, famous, and live the good life.

    Not launching isn't about fear, it's about protecting the dream ...

    Like I said, I haven't figured out how to explain this properly, but I hope this makes at least a little sense ...

    -G
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by Gary_The_Ace View Post

      By the time you're an adult, you've realized you're not going to be a rockstar
      Wait, what? Are you serious? What do you mean I'm not going to be a rock star?
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  • Profile picture of the author Hesaidblissfully
    I think people hold back due to a fear of making mistakes. They want to learn the "perfect" way to do things, so they spend time learning everything they can about a subject before they take any real action on it. Once they actually launch the project, they have to deal with the very real possibility of failure, but any plan can look good as long as it's just an idea in your head.

    The truth is that learning without any empirical evidence (even in the form of failure that shows you how NOT to do something) is a very limited kind of learning. If you really want to learn something, you have to do it.
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    • Profile picture of the author toodlepipfornow
      Hi Guys,

      This is an absolutely fantastic thread and the majority of the comments here have struck a lot of chords with me. Thank you Eric for starting it.

      I got involved with IM quite recently - after my husband became interested, I wanted to see what all the fuss was about. I got hooked pretty quickly and now we´re working together, but there are a few areas that we clash on.

      In a nutshell - he wants to put stuff out there RIGHT NOW just to get it out there, but (because I´m afraid for all the reasons you´ve already gone over) I want stuff to be perfect before we do anything with it.

      The result? Not much gets done with regard to product launches.

      This thread has encouraged me and gone a huge way to allay a lot of my fears - it couldn´t have come at a better time!

      Thanks to all

      Sherrie
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    My approach was always to just go ahead and take a leap in and try everything that I was interested in and even some things that I wasn't because of advice and things that I had learned.

    I think experience is the best teacher. You can read all day, but actually doing something, failing, tweaking, seeing improvement, tweaking again is a much better teacher than just reading.

    You also learn a lot when you do instead of just read. You acquire skills that'll be useful throughout your marketing career. Why be afraid to take the leap? Just do it and learn from it. It's not the end of the world if it doesn't work out and you've learned something valuable in the process.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dean Jackson
    Thank you for this awesome post... I've needed to get my ass in gear and launch already!

    That creeping feeling always comes back like... oh no, I gotta do this, no wait, it's already been done, etc.

    But this post was just what I needed. Thanks again,

    Dean
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