Will 500 more articles help?

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Hi Everyone,

I have about 400 articles on my site. I'm trying to get more traffic. My conversion rate is pretty good but I would like it to be better.

My question is...will adding another 500 articles to my site improve my traffic that much more? My niche is quite competitive. Is adding more the answer or is it beating a dead horse?

I feel that I am entering the stage of 'diminished returns'.

Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeannie Crabtree
    You did not mention the age of your site. But more importantly...

    You did not mention backlinks. That is very important. Not only to your index page, but to your inner pages. This will move you up the ranks in the search engines. And you have to continue getting backlinks if you are in a competitive niche.

    If you write articles, or have them written, why not use more articles to submit to the article directories. This will bring more traffic and also get you more backlinks. It is a winner both ways.

    Jeannie Crabtree




    Originally Posted by theteach View Post

    Hi Everyone,

    I have about 400 articles on my site. I'm trying to get more traffic. My conversion rate is pretty good but I would like it to be better.

    My question is...will adding another 500 articles to my site improve my traffic that much more? My niche is quite competitive. Is adding more the answer or is it beating a dead horse?

    I feel that I am entering the stage of 'diminished returns'.

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author theteach
    Thanks Jeannie,

    I am adding backlinks to my inner pages on a regular basis.

    At this time, I prefer to build myself as an expert by keeping my articles on my own site as opposed to lending my 'expert' status to ezines or hubpages. I want to build my own house, not someone elses. Perhaps this is my mistake.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andrew_Wardle
      Originally Posted by theteach View Post

      I want to build my own house, not someone elses. Perhaps this is my mistake.
      Sometimes you can build your own house better by directing people to it from other well-trafficked houses.

      A few high quality articles on EZA and Buzzle certainly wouldn't do any harm. Hubpages and Squidoo are pretty much useless now.

      Andrew
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    • Profile picture of the author mr2monster
      Originally Posted by theteach View Post

      Thanks Jeannie,

      I am adding backlinks to my inner pages on a regular basis.

      At this time, I prefer to build myself as an expert by keeping my articles on my own site as opposed to lending my 'expert' status to ezines or hubpages. I want to build my own house, not someone elses. Perhaps this is my mistake.


      Building your house is great and all... but it gets kinda lonely if no one ever walks through the door...




      In other news, you can actually take articles that you already have on your site and are indexed for and submit them to the article directories. This expands your "reach" by putting content out there for people to find you with... leading them back to your house... and allowing them to find more of your great content on your site.
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    • Profile picture of the author thetruth23
      Originally Posted by theteach View Post

      Thanks Jeannie,

      I am adding backlinks to my inner pages on a regular basis.

      At this time, I prefer to build myself as an expert by keeping my articles on my own site as opposed to lending my 'expert' status to ezines or hubpages. I want to build my own house, not someone elses. Perhaps this is my mistake.

      You don't have to post all of your articles there...even 5% of your next 500 would suffice.

      I wouldn't worry about building their house...their house is already built. But they can be very helpful in helping other people building their own houses as they welcome you to come and use their resources.

      Just like Andrew said 'Sometimes you can build your own house better by directing people to it from other well-trafficked houses.'
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  • Profile picture of the author jennypitts
    I agree with both Jeannie and Andrew. It is quite OK to build your expert status on your site, but I see NOTHING wrong with building your expert status in another site, in this case directory sites. I think you should change strategies and try to shift a little more towards letting the "world" find your expertise elsewhere and give them the option to visit your site for MORE information and expert advise.
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  • Profile picture of the author thetruth23
    I agree with Jeannie, use some of the article directories to post your articles to, to create backlinks to your site.

    Google loves ezine, so articles posted there are more usually likely to naturally rank higher than the same article posted on your own website!
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  • Profile picture of the author mr2monster
    Another thing to mention is that you should be putting your BEST content on your site, and distributing teaser type content to other sites.

    So, maybe you write a killer 1500 word article on a subject you know a lot about and you post that to your site... then, you write 3-5 short articles introducing people to the concept and spread those articles out to get some traffic.

    Once people find your GREAT content, they link to it too... and that's how you get people to do the work for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author butters
      I do like these questions... Is adding more content to your site worth it, do you seriously need us to answer that? You already have 400 articles so you know it works...
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      • Profile picture of the author Neil V
        From my experience for what it is worth i see this traffic mistake being made all the time.


        Tactics (writing 400 articles ) without the right strategy = lot of hard work without the expected return.


        You have done all the hard work i.e. writing 400 articles. i would even go so far to say that most marketers would never even get close to 400 articles so you are in the top minority


        But is seems that you are heading west looking for the sun- rise.


        Here is what i recommend from a strategy perspective


        What are the keywords you are after? do you have the time and resources to compete on it. Say you going after a keyword that has 50k searches a month.

        Set 1- you need to determine what's your strategy to get traffic from that keyword

        if it has 300 indexed pages and 10000 links then you need to figure out whether you can go after this or whether it is long term or short term

        step 2: does this keyword convert to sales. i previously spent 6 months going after a keyword only to find out that it had poor conversion. i would spend about $50 on ppc to see if you can get conversions


        step 3 - once you have an idea as to the number of pages, the pr you need to get to, the number of links and type of links then you have a good strategy to make the decision whether you should invest more time and effort

        Unfortunately writing more pages may not be the answer. Maybe structuring your site well and getting more links may be it. I am speculating here.

        I hope this helps

        Good luck
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        • Profile picture of the author dougp
          This is where analytics become crucial to the success of your website. First, check which articles are doing the best, and then find out why. Start adding a couple of more articles using a similar template as your successful articles and see how much your traffic improves. if it does, then keep peppering your website with more of those types of articles and rinse and repeat.
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  • Profile picture of the author petelta
    Originally Posted by theteach View Post

    Hi Everyone,

    I have about 400 articles on my site. I'm trying to get more traffic. My conversion rate is pretty good but I would like it to be better.

    My question is...will adding another 500 articles to my site improve my traffic that much more? My niche is quite competitive. Is adding more the answer or is it beating a dead horse?

    I feel that I am entering the stage of 'diminished returns'.

    Thanks
    If you are using those articles to not only build the size of your site content, but also add extra avenues for people to find your site then it will increase your traffic.

    Now, this is also dependent on the niche you are involved in and the amount of actual traffic that searches the niche. Every niche has a ceiling. Some of those you will never reach, but the more narrow niches you can only get so much traffic.


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  • Profile picture of the author theteach
    Wow..thanks everyone. This is great advice. Yes, I will submit my articles to sites like ezine. Teaser articles and using my analytics to utilize my best articles are great suggestions as well.

    Thanks everyone!
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  • Profile picture of the author betsyanne
    Thanks for the good question and great answers, everyone. There was one thing I was going to ask though.

    In a reply to this question, Andrew_Wardle said,
    A few high quality articles on EZA and Buzzle certainly wouldn't do any harm. Hubpages and Squidoo are pretty much useless now.
    I did find Buzzle, but could not find EZA. Does anyone have the web address for it?

    Also, I had not heard anyone say Hubpages and Squidoo are useless before now. That doesn't mean that the information is wrong at all.

    But to speak on the good side, I have made some good contacts on Squidoo and it is fun hanging out there. They have some good "how to" articles there and more.

    But to be honest, I don't see a lot of people jumping to my sites from there. One reason might be that lensmasters are encouraged not to be spammy there.

    As far as Hubpages goes, (for me anyhow) Hubpages does send me traffic sometimes even though I only have one article there. (so far...) :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author va_mom
    I have not tried Buzzle yet, but i do hear a lot of good things about this site. I am just worried because i have read that it is hard to post the same article (another is spun) to both Buzzle and EZA. How do you guys do it? Or is it just one or the other?

    And for Hubpages and Squidoo, it still give me results but not as good as before.
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  • Profile picture of the author m100k
    What you want to do is to increase the roi of the work you have already done. Try to have tracking in place to see what type of content is giving you the results that you want.

    Tracking what works and replicating it is much easier than throwing a bunch of stuff at the wall until something sticks. Use your articles to gather data so that you can work more efficiently.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shannon Herod
    Building more quality content on your site is always a great idea.

    But, you need to make sure that content is optimized and built for the search engines.

    Just because you have content on your site does not necessarily mean that it's going to drawl search engine traffic.

    But, if you write the content with the purpose of controlling search engine traffic your odds are much better.

    Plus, after you get the content on your site you need to do a little off-site work to get that piece of content indexed and then ranking well.

    Personally, I only write about 20% of my posts for the search engines. Most of the time I write for humans. But, most of my sites are fairly well aged and I rank well for long tail keywords. So, it's not a big deal for me. I get traffic regardless.

    But, when you're first starting out I would say write at least 50% of your posts targeting search engine traffic. But remember to keep in mind that you're not just writing for search engines, people are actually going to be reading these posts.

    Shannon
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    • Profile picture of the author PaulBaranowski
      hey,

      here's just one thing that might give you a bump in google rankings and traffic:

      -Go to the analytics and see an average time a visitor spends on your site.
      -Find the pages that keep your visitor the longest - this is your gold that feeds you google rankings as google rewards the sites for giving the visitors the best possible experience that retains them on the site
      -Now,analyze the pages that your visitors leave quickly - this is the kind of content that might damage your rankings. How? If google sees that many people leave your pages within seconds,google may penalize you - it may not actually,but you better lessen that rick by knowing what kind of content you shouldn't publish.i'd personally delete the content that has a lot of 5-10 sec views.
      - think about the content variety - if you mainly use articles only,think twice - google will reward you for using more pictures and videos.
      -Last but not least,the medium that boasts the best viewer retentions is video.Try to add more quality video to your pages and you'll get longer page views.

      I deliberately haven't mentioned about the backlinks - its obvious you need them,but 5000 backlinks with 5-15 sec page views will give you worse results than 500 backlinks and 60 sec page views - and that's a new google seo algo not so many talk about.

      Have success,
      Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    Your website gets a better ranking in the search results when you add more valuable content. Each article must have a separate page (and link) so that it may be noticed by the search engines.

    Of course you should submit many articles to the main article directories, but you should also add more content to your website if you can. This is very good too. Google pays attention to your improvements, and if you have more content, you certainly attract more readers.
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