Autoresponder/Email Marketing Manager for Adult Industry

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I am working on starting an adult industry newsletter, but just realized that the big-name list hosts (AWeber, GetResponder, iContact, etc.) don't allow anything adult-related.

I know most people just say to self-host, but the hassle of constantly having to keep my domain off blacklists and the risk of getting my list hacked is a big reason for me to not want to go this route if I don't have to. If I was just looking to blast out spam mail, or if I only planned on running a small list, it wouldn't bother me...but the goal is a legitimate newsletter with a very large number of subscribers.

However, I've done a lot of research and I'm starting to think self-hosted may be my only option...but it's worth a shot asking if anyone knows of any list hosts that allow adult-related information (not porn) to be sent.

Thanks,
Jason
#adult #autoresponder or email #industry #manager #marketing
  • Profile picture of the author Lothar Evers
    I have made a very good experience when it comes to price and deliverability with an autoresponder hosted professionally by a member of the warriorforum. I am not sure about adult content and o not want to promote here. If you are interested send me a pm or answer to this thread and I will check it out for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author senderbot
    Hi,

    Have you tried looking at other sites within your niche - competitors etc and seeing if any of them have an email service. If so sign up and see if you can look at links and see who the email service provider is...

    Cheers

    Max
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  • Profile picture of the author Marco Yandun
    If you do not find a good solution but self-hosting, you may think about Infinite Responder.

    Marco
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    • Profile picture of the author uglykidd
      Thank you everyone for the replies.

      Max, your suggestion was so obvious...I have no clue why that never crossed my mind! Most of the sites appear to be self-hosted...but I did I notice a few of the lists I'm on using managed providers where adult sites are against the TOS, like 1ShoppingCart and AWeber.

      I emailed MoonRay Marketing about using their Office Autopilot...if they don't approve of my material I'll just end up self-hosting using AutoResponse Plus or Interspire.

      Thanks again,
      Jason
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  • Profile picture of the author palpatine
    Hello All,

    Hey, uglykidd, curious as to what kind of reply you got from Moonray about the adult content with the autoresponder?

    Actually, I've been looking all over the place (that's how I found this post) trying to find an autoresponder that will approve of adult marketers to no avail.

    I really don't want to self host because I really don't know how to. I'm sure I could learn how but who's gonna teach me? Where am I going to get the time?

    Anyways, if anybody has a good solution for an autoresponder service out there that allows adult content I would really appreciate to hear about it.

    Thanks,
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    • Profile picture of the author resonsivemail
      hey we are a new company that has just set up an adult email marketing and autoresponder site
      please go to "wwwresonsivemailcom" hope we can help
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      • Profile picture of the author Fingertips
        Originally Posted by resonsivemail View Post

        hey we are a new company that has just set up an adult email marketing and autoresponder site
        please go to "wwwresonsivemailcom" hope we can help
        Hi
        I was interested in this post and followed it through. The only company I found was an HTML site called Responsive Email dot com from Amsterdam

        The spelling of resonsivemail.com in the original post looked a bit 'iffy' but I checked it anyway.

        Any thoughts from WF members about this?
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        • Profile picture of the author nwmktc
          You can use Aweber and I have been using it for years with my Adult marketing. They just don't want any Pornographic photos in the emails, but do not care if the links in the emails point to porn as long as the links don't show porn. I have a saved chat session with one of their customer service reps:

          "John K.: As long as the links
          don't show nudity. They can
          direct to nudity but they
          can't be present in our
          messages."

          - This is a rep from Aweber explaining how you can use it for a pornographic mailing list.

          Don't believe me? Start a chat with them and ask them - it is allowed as long as there is no photos of pornographic material in the email itself, but if there is links in the email that point to pornographic material, then there is no problem.
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  • Profile picture of the author DrJale
    That is too bad. I saw some websites using Aweber to promote sexually related material, but it seems that only time matters before they are suspended.

    If someone finds a solution, I'd be interested too...
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  • Profile picture of the author mflorin
    Let me know if you find anything. I am looking for the same thing!
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    • Profile picture of the author retrotheque
      I've been researching Sendblaster.

      I can't find a Terms of Service that prohibits adult content. And the only reference to pornographic materials is in their anti-spam policy.

      So from what I've read so far, they prohibit spam, but not adult content, as long as you comply with the FCC's CAN-SPAM Rules.

      I'm thinking of trying it. If I do, I'll report back here whether my emails were restricted. Keep your fingers crossed for me.

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      • Profile picture of the author oleksiguy
        So, how did it go with Sendblaster? Have anyone found any other adult friendly email marketing solution?
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        • Profile picture of the author jhess56
          doing a bit of resurecting on this semi old post

          any new info as im stumped so far now that aweber and the rest of the biggies have said no way to my various adult related sites both 'soft' and 'hard'

          going to check various competition as noted above to see what services they use but wanted to post here for an update as well

          thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author uglykidd
    Sorry, I forgot all about this thread. I've learned a lot since originally posting this and have since been working with one of the biggest players in the adult industry. In the adult world, most marketers are typically either stuck mailing one of two ways:

    A) Attempting to go "fly by night" using mail hosts like Aweber, etc., knowing that your list could be shut down any minute.
    or
    B) Self-hosting. I mainly use Interpire Email Marketer running on a VPS. Interspire is a great all-around program...it has all the "shiny bells & whistles" you'd expect an expensive list host to give you (autoresponder, list manager, stats, inbox/open/click rates, etc.) and is pretty easy to install on a server. Self-hosting your own mailing list does require some homework, a little extra effort and typically more up-front costs, but it more than pays off in the end knowing you have complete control over your list. Additionally, as your list grows, your mailing expenses won't start to skyrocket like they would using something like Aweber.

    IMO, the biggest downfall to self-hosting is getting high inbox rates. But, if you do your homework you can still do really well. If you're in the adult industry, you're stuck with limited options...unless you have a very large budget. Additionally, self-hosting issues like getting potentially getting blacklisted are problems that can quickly, cheaply and easily be fixed if you're set up right and know what you're doing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Randy Smith
      Originally Posted by uglykidd View Post

      Sorry, I forgot all about this thread. I've learned a lot since originally posting this and have since been working with one of the biggest players in the adult industry. In the adult world, most marketers are typically either stuck mailing one of two ways:

      A) Attempting to go "fly by night" using mail hosts like Aweber, etc., knowing that your list could be shut down any minute.
      or
      B) Self-hosting. I mainly use Interpire Email Marketer running on a VPS. Interspire is a great all-around program...it has all the "shiny bells & whistles" you'd expect an expensive list host to give you (autoresponder, list manager, stats, inbox/open/click rates, etc.) and is pretty easy to install on a server. Self-hosting your own mailing list does require some homework, a little extra effort and typically more up-front costs, but it more than pays off in the end knowing you have complete control over your list. Additionally, as your list grows, your mailing expenses won't start to skyrocket like they would using something like Aweber.

      IMO, the biggest downfall to self-hosting is getting high inbox rates. But, if you do your homework you can still do really well. If you're in the adult industry, you're stuck with limited options...unless you have a very large budget. Additionally, self-hosting issues like getting potentially getting blacklisted are problems that can quickly, cheaply and easily be fixed if you're set up right and know what you're doing.

      I bet a video tutorial of what needs doing, when , where & How - to self host ....

      Would be a popular product!
      Especially with so many not liking the thought of increased fees from the main players!

      Have you considered doing anything along those lines ??

      Randy
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  • Profile picture of the author resonsivemail
    hi there in response to you post in the forum we have just set up a brand new email marketing and auto responder service for the adult industry only.
    You can check us out at resonsivemaildotcom
    i hope you enjoy and it is helpful for you specific needs
    thanks
    resposive mail
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  • Profile picture of the author CED59
    hey, just wanted to bump this thread to see if anyone was successful in finding an email/newsletter service for adult websites
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  • Profile picture of the author uglykidd
    I self-host using Interspire and have had a lot of success in mailing for next to nothing. But for anyone looking for an adult-friendly hosted email service, the best I've found is YNOTmail.com. YNOT is a well-known network in the adult industry and their email service is pretty solid and has been around for awhile. Unless someone has a very small list, pricing is on-par with aWeber and MailChimp. If mass-mailing, pricing is much cheaper.
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  • Profile picture of the author CED59
    Thanks a ton!
    Hey I got a question for you (and anyone else who uses Interspire Email Marketing)
    the $450 for a regular email marketing package is a lifetime flat-rate fee right?

    I know this question may be better served to an Interspire rep, but just wanted to see if you guys knew
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    • Profile picture of the author uglykidd
      The $450 includes one year of free support and upgrades. Once you buy it, it's yours for life...you just won't get the free upgrades or support after a year.
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      • Profile picture of the author FPM Consultancy
        I am looking for such a service and tried to get in touch with responsivemail. If anyone has a solution (including you responsive) please send me a message
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  • Infinite Responder I think would be a good option.
    I am pretty sure they allow adult related emails.
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    • Profile picture of the author FPM Consultancy
      Thanks I looked at it, it seems that there is nothing like an aWeber for "adult" content. Any insight or info on that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sean Earley
    It depends on "how adult" your subject matter is. If you are going full on, then yeah, you better just self host. If it is more informal, educational, you might be able to sneak by with mailchimp, but you always risk the chance that you say say or do the wrong thing and lose your list.

    I've always self hosted my adult lists and never had any issues. I like the Tribulant Newsletter plugin for Wordpress. A very handy and inexpensive solution.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rik Fox
    Originally Posted by uglykidd View Post

    I am working on starting an adult industry newsletter, but just realized that the big-name list hosts (AWeber, GetResponder, iContact, etc.) don't allow anything adult-related.

    I know most people just say to self-host, but the hassle of constantly having to keep my domain off blacklists and the risk of getting my list hacked is a big reason for me to not want to go this route if I don't have to. If I was just looking to blast out spam mail, or if I only planned on running a small list, it wouldn't bother me...but the goal is a legitimate newsletter with a very large number of subscribers.

    However, I've done a lot of research and I'm starting to think self-hosted may be my only option...but it's worth a shot asking if anyone knows of any list hosts that allow adult-related information (not porn) to be sent.

    Thanks,
    Jason
    Hey Jason,

    Check out my autoresponder, I'm just about to launch a FREE version in the Warrior forum, you can access the free version here: FREE Version | Follow up autoresponder and mailing list software script

    Regards

    Andy
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  • Profile picture of the author Phargy
    I've just been looking into this myself, if anyone is still interested I emailed Simplycast and this is their reply.

    "We don't allow any sort of nudity, escort services, or any hateful material.

    We have many Adult clients which sell or promote books, toys, or otherwise. These customers are able to take advantage of the service by ensuring all content is free of any 'illegal' content like pharmaceuticals, nudity, or otherwise."
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  • Profile picture of the author ZerocooI
    Like stated above Self Hosted is the way to go.

    It depends on "how adult" your subject matter is. If you are going full on, then yeah, you better just self host. If it is more informal, educational, you might be able to sneak by with mailchimp, but you always risk the chance that you say say or do the wrong thing and lose your list.

    I've always self hosted my adult lists and never had any issues. I like the Tribulant Newsletter plugin for Wordpress. A very handy and inexpensive solution.
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  • Profile picture of the author AdamPayne
    Don't know if this has been mentioned already but Google Jon Mculloch. He is a top top copywriter based in Ireland and is in the adult industry niche.

    He uses I contact I think... :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author denask
    Hello,

    You should try Mailermax, they allowing adult/gambling projects. http://mailermax.com/
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