The Internet Marketing in nowadays

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Almost one year passed in my internet marketing journey and over %95 of products I tried are scams and in the best case the less than %5 doesn't brinks what that they promises.

Very few gives good ideas. As I understand as not a flat newbie but with 1 year experience only. If you want to become a marketer who makes at least $200 per month , you have a lot of work to do.

Most marketers who sells products that claim , you are able to make $223.320 in 10 days and you will have 30.000 people in your list in one month and others which claim , you will have 700 opt-ins every day and other claim , your website will be ranked in first 3 places in google in 3 days and all of these are crap promises and a LIES. None of them are real.

I am fighting , and I say I am fighting as a warrior I am here in this forum , and I do more work than my daily work. And so far I have done nothing.

I am learning html , I am learning flash , I am learning graphics design , I used to use paintshop pro , so photoshop like programms will be easier to be learnt.

But the truth is , if you want to become a marketer who makes $200 per month and if you manage to reach this level , you will be very happy.

The only thing I manage to do , was one sale , in december of 2009 , because it was christmass , I payed 200 Euros in google adwords and I sell one diet program for $30 I was very happy I manage to sell $30 and I payed $200. After that , I didn't manage , to sell any other product , because my adwords account wiped out. and my campaigns stopped. I tried to fund my account after christmass , and I made no sales , because christmass passed and no people wants to purchase something anymore.

The only truth is , you need to fight as warrior in internet marketing war. And some times the work you have to do , is much more than the work you do , in your 9 to 5 work.

And in most times your 9 to 5 work will give you more money than the internet marketing. So far in my journey , I spend , I spend , I spend....

And my e-mail is spammed , spammed , spammed....

Other fact. If you didn't start in 2001 , now you are late. Most succesful marketers start 10 years ago. Now the market is oversaturated. And the search engines have assimilate the old websites and marketers. So the traffic streams goes to old sharks.
Also , most of clickbank products , already soldout , in fact oversold out , years ago. Already the old sharks have sold products that , you as a newbie try to sell again. Who will purchase , every people here is trying to sell dog training books , how many dogs you will train? Are you going to train all dogs on planet earth? If you train all dogs on this planet , what dog training techers and centers do? If you sell dog training books to trail all the dogs of this planet , then I will be very proud for you , you became a succesful dog trainer.

But we , newbie marketers who we don't have enough money to sustain our campaigns , I will give you an example. Most of you poor internet marketers as me , you have save your last $100 and you didn't feed your children at night to save these last $100 to fund your poor google adwords campaign. You are struggling to create one poor campaign in adwords with Quality score 1 to 4 and with daily budget $5 to $10 to manage to have your poor campaign for 10 to 15 alive. You post your campaign and the Google Boss slap your campaign with 1/10 quality score and you need to bid higher. But your poor budget is only $10 per day so you bid higher , but in the other side the fat cat , with $100.000 in account bids higher against you , so your poor daily budget reach the $10 a day , and your poor campaign stopped.
And the days passed , you take 20 clicks a day , because you can't sustain more , because your daily budget is very small , you have to choose , if $20/day and 5 days or $10/day and 10 days.

In both cases you are doomed. Even if someone click your campaigns , your impressions are very few , your campaign need to get matured , and you need at least 30 days to sustain your campaign , but in the other side your enemy , have bigger weapons than you , you are trying to fight with maces and the enemy hits with nuclear weapons.

Your account have $100 only and the enemy have $100.000 your impressions are less than 10000 but the enemy have more than 10.000.000 and you pay $0.40 for each click and your enemy pays $0.01 for each click. Who will win?

Your campaigns appears once an hour , your enemy compaigns appears every second.

Your campaigns have 2/10 quality score , your enemy campaigns have 9/10 or 10/10.

So my friends , the internet marketing game , is already lost for us the poor ones.

The only one thing which save us and give us a hope , is the market is very deep , but you have a lot of work to do.

One piece of the internet marketing puzzle is , collect ideas from others.

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  • Profile picture of the author alleycatnews
    So in that year how many opt ins have you gotten?
    let me guess? Zero?

    That is one of your issues I can guarantee you that.
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  • Did you seriously not feed your kids so you could save money?

    Ok I'm new to this business, totally green and seeing this post should demotivate me but it doesn't! Why? because of the amount of success stories out there, and recent ones at that! I really struggle to think that this market is saturated in such a short amount of time...I think a lot of people really underestimate the power of the World Wide Web!

    Spend more time on this forum if I were you and do heaps of research before spending any cash. That's what I'm doing and am pumped about what the future could hold for me!

    Try and lift yourself and talk to some people who have made it! Don't give up!
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    • Profile picture of the author takis76
      I was serious about collect money , I don't have kids. But some other people , might have kids and makes saving and feed their kids less.

      Some times , I save money and I avoid to eat some pizza , or drink some cokes and I avoid to go out for clubs and I save my money for all money wasted things.

      I don't go out , I avoid to drink fizzy drinks , I drink water when I am thirsty. I avoid expensies , I stay at home whole week , I don't have cell phone , I don't drink coffee , I am not smaking , all of these are wasted expensies.
      One average people need everyday $30 or Euros , for cigarrets , for drinks , for coffee , for clubs , for junk food , like chips , croissant , I go to my work by on foot , I am walking 4 kilometers a day to go and return from my work.

      Even if you taking the bus , which most times is late , I am arriving to my work sooner as I arrive with bus. Here the bus , delays 35 minutes , I am in my work on foot 25 minutes and I save 2 Euro in bus ticket a day.

      When we eat our tiffin or dinner we drink cokes , fizzy drinks , each can cost 2 Euros.

      If someone smokes , needs 4 Euros in cigarettes , some people smoke very much and need to packets of cigarettes everyday. 8 Euros , If you go out for night clubbing you need at least 10 Euros. If you count all of these you will spend a lots of wasted money and you harming your health.

      2 Bus
      8 Cigarettes
      10 Pizza
      10 Nighclub
      2 Fizzy drinks

      An average people spends every day $30 or Euros these expensies are $900 per month and you are eating and you getting fat. You are not walking and you are not burn your callories , you are smoking and you are in danger to caused by cancer.
      Fizzy drinks and sugar , makes bad teeth , walking everyday is good for heart.
      Pizza and any other snacks you are getting fat.

      So all of these wasted money , you save them and is good for your health , also I don't have the luxury to spend 900 per month , my earnings are only 450 Euros per month , so even I am not smaking and I am not drinking and I don't spend money for buses and taxi , my money are not enough , with 450 Euros , I pay to eat , to pay my old loan , (long story for this) , I don't have rent to pay , thank god.
      But there are other expensies as utilities , power , aircondition , house keeping , groceries.

      Here weather is very hot , 35/Celsius or 95/Fahrenheit , so aircondition is expensive.
      I open my windows , (No windows xp and vista ) house windows or I have a fan.
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  • Profile picture of the author aaron_nimocks
    Sounds to me that you are a patient and hard working person. Which means to me is you should probably ditch whatever you are doing to generate money and move on to something else.

    For you I would recommend picking a niche you know a bunch about (possibly a blog about IM failures and scams) then just to write great articles and content while making backlinks very slowly.

    After a few months and you start to see some traffic then start to do blog posts for IM products that ARENT a scam. If you gain your visitors trust by telling them not to buy some crap then when you do recommend something you will have a good chance at making a bunch of sales.

    So instead of throwing away money on stupid guides and getting nothing in return you can focus on SEO and quality content. I gaurantee after a year if you do what I just wrote you will make more than 1 sale on something.

    Point is, dont buy products. Create your own niche and OWN IT!
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketItAll
    I agree with the whole mindset thing. I always set my mind to "I'm doing it - and I'm not stopping until I do", it works well when you do that.

    You know, some keywords take YEARS to get on the first page for, and there are not many people who will keep plugging away day after day year after year with something like that, but you have to have the mindset of you're going to do it, and not stop until it's done.

    Because eventually you'll get it. You just have to work hard, stay consistent, and stay determined.
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  • Profile picture of the author scrofford
    Originally Posted by takis76 View Post

    Almost one year passed in my internet marketing journey and over %95 of products I tried are scams and in the best case the less than %5 doesn't brinks what that they promises.

    Very few gives good ideas. As I understand as not a flat newbie but with 1 year experience only. If you want to become a marketer who makes at least $200 per month , you have a lot of work to do.

    Most marketers who sells products that claim , you are able to make $223.320 in 10 days and you will have 30.000 people in your list in one month and others which claim , you will have 700 opt-ins every day and other claim , your website will be ranked in first 3 places in google in 3 days and all of these are crap promises and a LIES. None of them are real.

    I am fighting , and I say I am fighting as a warrior I am here in this forum , and I do more work than my daily work. And so far I have done nothing.

    I am learning html , I am learning flash , I am learning graphics design , I used to use paintshop pro , so photoshop like programms will be easier to be learnt.

    But the truth is , if you want to become a marketer who makes $200 per month and if you manage to reach this level , you will be very happy.

    The only thing I manage to do , was one sale , in december of 2009 , because it was christmass , I payed 200 Euros in google adwords and I sell one diet program for $30 I was very happy I manage to sell $30 and I payed $200. After that , I didn't manage , to sell any other product , because my adwords account wiped out. and my campaigns stopped. I tried to fund my account after christmass , and I made no sales , because christmass passed and no people wants to purchase something anymore.

    The only truth is , you need to fight as warrior in internet marketing war. And some times the work you have to do , is much more than the work you do , in your 9 to 5 work.

    And in most times your 9 to 5 work will give you more money than the internet marketing. So far in my journey , I spend , I spend , I spend....

    And my e-mail is spammed , spammed , spammed....

    Other fact. If you didn't start in 2001 , now you are late. Most succesful marketers start 10 years ago. Now the market is oversaturated. And the search engines have assimilate the old websites and marketers. So the traffic streams goes to old sharks.
    Also , most of clickbank products , already soldout , in fact oversold out , years ago. Already the old sharks have sold products that , you as a newbie try to sell again. Who will purchase , every people here is trying to sell dog training books , how many dogs you will train? Are you going to train all dogs on planet earth? If you train all dogs on this planet , what dog training techers and centers do? If you sell dog training books to trail all the dogs of this planet , then I will be very proud for you , you became a succesful dog trainer.

    But we , newbie marketers who we don't have enough money to sustain our campaigns , I will give you an example. Most of you poor internet marketers as me , you have save your last $100 and you didn't feed your children at night to save these last $100 to fund your poor google adwords campaign. You are struggling to create one poor campaign in adwords with Quality score 1 to 4 and with daily budget $5 to $10 to manage to have your poor campaign for 10 to 15 alive. You post your campaign and the Google Boss slap your campaign with 1/10 quality score and you need to bid higher. But your poor budget is only $10 per day so you bid higher , but in the other side the fat cat , with $100.000 in account bids higher against you , so your poor daily budget reach the $10 a day , and your poor campaign stopped.
    And the days passed , you take 20 clicks a day , because you can't sustain more , because your daily budget is very small , you have to choose , if $20/day and 5 days or $10/day and 10 days.

    In both cases you are doomed. Even if someone click your campaigns , your impressions are very few , your campaign need to get matured , and you need at least 30 days to sustain your campaign , but in the other side your enemy , have bigger weapons than you , you are trying to fight with maces and the enemy hits with nuclear weapons.

    Your account have $100 only and the enemy have $100.000 your impressions are less than 10000 but the enemy have more than 10.000.000 and you pay $0.40 for each click and your enemy pays $0.01 for each click. Who will win?

    Your campaigns appears once an hour , your enemy compaigns appears every second.

    Your campaigns have 2/10 quality score , your enemy campaigns have 9/10 or 10/10.

    So my friends , the internet marketing game , is already lost for us the poor ones.

    The only one thing which save us and give us a hope , is the market is very deep , but you have a lot of work to do.

    One piece of the internet marketing puzzle is , collect ideas from others.

    Maybe being an affiliate for CB products isn't your thing, or maybe you should build a list-I think so- or maybe you should actually learn the process of IM and not try to just "go through the motions" if that's what you are doing. Maybe you need a mentor or a course. A good course ( and I am not an affiliate ) is "Insider secrets to marketing your business on the internet"

    Just some food for thought. Always remember if it's not working for you, then it is YOU that needs to find the right way to make it work. That takes educating yourself and trying different things. Pushing CB products for a whole year with no good results is kinda well, silly. If you haven't had results-like only one sale, then you need to take a look at what it is YOU are doing wrong and correct it.

    There are a lot of good CB products out there. They are not all scams. You just need to learn what to look for.
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  • Profile picture of the author bkilela
    Sorry Pal, what you have described unfortunately is what many others have gone through and probably still going through .

    I decided to take it slow and started as an article writter for IM affiliates and am hoping with time I will take the next step and be an IM affiliate myself.

    My advice for now dont give up keep trying or maybe just take a step back and start with what you are good at and build it up towards what you want to end up at
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    • Profile picture of the author scrofford
      Originally Posted by youssefedwardsaber View Post

      internet marketing is good provided that a big effort is performed to sell products
      Wrongo! Internet marketing is good provided you LEARN how to do it properly and not start with looking for products to sell. The big effort as you put it should be in finding a hungry, starving market that has a problem or desire that you can solve or give them. That is where the big effort should be given.

      After you find a hungry, starving crowd with a problem or need, THEN and only then do you look for something to fill that need or solve that problem.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    EDIT: Just so everyone knows, this thread was started in 2010 and the OP is still where he was in 2010.

    OK, I will try my best to not be mean here but I don't think if i'll blow up in the middle of this thread. Let's see:

    Almost one year passed in my internet marketing journey and over %95 of products I tried are scams and in the best case the less than %5 doesn't brinks what that they promises.
    Here's my question to you.....

    How many of these product you bought have you actually followed the advice from?

    Let me guess, none.

    And how long have you used a method shown in one of these products before you bought a new one?

    Let me guess on this one too, less than a month.

    Making money with IM takes consistent focus and action. You have to figure out your plan of action and then STICK with it for a long enough time to be successful.


    Very few gives good ideas. As I understand as not a flat newbie but with 1 year experience only. If you want to become a marketer who makes at least $200 per month , you have a lot of work to do.
    It really depends. As of last month, I totaled around $2800 in affiliate commissions and I only worked for less than 20 hours.

    Why is that?

    Well that is because I have a many systems in place that are constantly working for me and all I need to do is tweak them a bit and they keep making me money and the other thing is that I know what works and I don't goof around looking for new ideas but I STICK to my plans and do what works.

    Most marketers who sells products that claim , you are able to make $223.320 in 10 days and you will have 30.000 people in your list in one month and others which claim , you will have 700 opt-ins every day and other claim , your website will be ranked in first 3 places in google in 3 days and all of these are crap promises and a LIES. None of them are real.
    Let me tell you, I recently did a case study that I haven't published anywhere on the internet and I did a 7 day blitz kind of thing.

    I started from day 1 and without using any of my existing resources (except for webhosting and autoresponder) I had $345.76 in affiliate commissions sitting in my new clickbank account. Now I'm not trying to brag here and also I'm not trying to presell a WSO or anything. I'm just trying to let you know that it is possible for a person to make more than $223.320 in less than 10 days but that person has to take lots of action and get things RIGHT. It was easy for me to do because I have been on the internet for around 2 years now and as I said before I have SYSTEMS that I use to make money online and I know what works so I cut straight to the point and take massive action and achieve the seemingly impossible goal for many.

    Bottomline, it is possible for a person to make $223.32 or more in less than 10 days.

    I am learning html , I am learning flash , I am learning graphics design , I used to use paintshop pro , so photoshop like programms will be easier to be learnt.
    I got one word for you:

    OUTSOURCING

    Seriously bro, you don't have to know all of these programming languages to make money online. You can outsource all of these tasks to other for money. Simple

    But the truth is , if you want to become a marketer who makes $200 per month and if you manage to reach this level , you will be very happy.
    Very true, I cannot explain how happy I was after I reached this level.

    The only thing I manage to do , was one sale , in december of 2009 , because it was christmass , I payed 200 Euros in google adwords and I sell one diet program for $30 I was very happy I manage to sell $30 and I payed $200. After that , I didn't manage , to sell any other product , because my adwords account wiped out. and my campaigns stopped. I tried to fund my account after christmass , and I made no sales , because christmass passed and no people wants to purchase something anymore.
    So did you try and figure out what you did wrong?

    Did you spend time researching new keywords to bid on after Christmas?
    Did you try different landing pages?
    Did you try and see if your keywords were targeted enough?

    Simply put, what did you do different second time?

    Nothing.

    Why? Do you think spending 200 euro and making $30 is good and is that what you really the way you want to make money?

    I know you got a sale but you lost a TON of money and when you worked on it next time you needed to eliminate what you did wrong and repeat more of what you did right.

    Learn from your mistakes and keep moving forward.

    And my e-mail is spammed , spammed , spammed....
    You opted into all of those email lists yourself and you gave all of the marketers permission to send you email promotions.

    Don't like it?

    There is an unsubscribe link on the bottom of every email you receive. Just click on it and you will not be contacted anymore by that person.

    Other fact. If you didn't start in 2001 , now you are late. Most succesful marketers start 10 years ago. Now the market is oversaturated. And the search engines have assimilate the old websites and marketers. So the traffic streams goes to old sharks.
    Not true once again.

    I started 2 years ago and I started making money about 10 months ago and tell you what I am pretty happy with 3k a month average.

    But we , newbie marketers who we don't have enough money to sustain our campaigns , I will give you an example. Most of you poor internet marketers as me , you have save your last $100 and you didn't feed your children at night to save these last $100 to fund your poor google adwords campaign. You are struggling to create one poor campaign in adwords with Quality score 1 to 4 and with daily budget $5 to $10 to manage to have your poor campaign for 10 to 15 alive. You post your campaign and the Google Boss slap your campaign with 1/10 quality score and you need to bid higher. But your poor budget is only $10 per day so you bid higher , but in the other side the fat cat , with $100.000 in account bids higher against you , so your poor daily budget reach the $10 a day , and your poor campaign stopped.
    And the days passed , you take 20 clicks a day , because you can't sustain more , because your daily budget is very small , you have to choose , if $20/day and 5 days or $10/day and 10 days.

    In both cases you are doomed. Even if someone click your campaigns , your impressions are very few , your campaign need to get matured , and you need at least 30 days to sustain your campaign , but in the other side your enemy , have bigger weapons than you , you are trying to fight with maces and the enemy hits with nuclear weapons.

    Your account have $100 only and the enemy have $100.000 your impressions are less than 10000 but the enemy have more than 10.000.000 and you pay $0.40 for each click and your enemy pays $0.01 for each click. Who will win?

    Your campaigns appears once an hour , your enemy compaigns appears every second.

    Your campaigns have 2/10 quality score , your enemy campaigns have 9/10 or 10/10.
    Well, you might want to quit PPC and think out of the box.

    Try other traffic sources or something
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  • Profile picture of the author Rocketguy
    There are a lot of crappy products and services out there. The problem is that you will never know what really works until you start testing. Testing is one of the most important aspects of Internet Marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ofthemix
    Wow, you sound kind of bitter about your failures, no offense.

    You're right though, gurus do lie. Or not so much lie as make it sound a lot easier than it is.

    I've been at this internet marketing thing for a little over a year now, which I can assume is about as long as you. I've spent roughly about a grand on my internet marketing efforts. I've made probably around $300 as an affiliate marketer since I started doing this. That's from Google, Amazon, Clickbank, and a private affiliate program combined. I own, roughly, about 20 websites.

    The blame of my lack of earnings does not go on the oversaturation of the market, it does not go on the products that I have choosen to promote, it does not go on the fact that I don't have tons of money to put in on PPC campaigns. The fault of me not making money is my own. It's lack of focus, not giving campaigns enough time to turn profitable, chasing the rainbows that other more successful internet marketers have set before me with promises of gold at the end.

    I can't count the number of times that I've read threads about why so many newbie internet marketers fail. Despite the fact that I've read these threads from day one of my internet marketing journey, I've followed these people's exact same mistakes because I was stubborn, and impatient, and I followed internet marketing methods that I absolutely hated. I can't even begin to count how many hours I've wasted shifting methods.

    So, why do I still try? Because I know that there is money to be made online. Because I've entered a competitive marketplace and I've succeeded. Because last year I made over $10K on eBay and became a PowerSeller, something that many people aspire to and fail at. It took me 6 months to find a profitable niche. 6 months of wasting money on testing different products before I was able to finally find profitability.

    But internet marketing isn't like eBay, and that's the beauty of it. As much as it can destroy a person in the beginning, there are so many different ways to make money that it's a blessing. One important thing that I've learned in this grueling year of testing is that if you don't love what you do then it's not worth doing. Sure, sometimes you have to do things you don't like just to stay afloat . . . like working a 9 to 5 . . . so go do what you need to do, but make the focus of your business model in your free time that of something you enjoy doing.

    It took me 6 months of trying and failing to find something on eBay that I could sell a lot of and at a 100% profit. That taught me that persistance WILL eventually pay off. It might take 5 years, it might only take another 6 months . . . but if I give up it will never happen.

    I think there are a few tricks to making it as a successful affiliate, aside from picking converting products, doing keyword research, getting traffic and what not. For me, thus far, it has been letting the information overload get the best of me. I've read so much on this forum that 98% of the time when I open a thread I don't learn anything new. I mainly just come here for inspiration now. I think that once you've learned just about all that you can, you start to form your own marketing plan, one that works for you.

    Something else vital in this industry is patience. There are tons of gurus out there that say you can be making X(<-insert large sum here) amount of dollars in so many days (usually a rediculously short amount of time), but I think that's bull**** for most of us. I only find that to be fiesable for those that either already have a list, have an extensive knowledge of social marketing, and/or know exactly when and how to strike trends when they're hot. I think for the rest of us, success largely depends on patience. Unless you know quite a bit about PPC and are promoting high commission products, I don't think you should build a new website and expect the money to be rolling in in any less time than a month. I can usually get money from Google within a few days or weeks of building a site, but for the most part I try not to expect any decent results until at least a month has rolled around. Plus it's important to keep content fresh, which is something else I think a lot of newbies don't do. I've been just as guilty on throwing up a website, doing the initial SEO and traffic building and then just letting it go completely with hopes that it would magically go viral with zero more effort. That's just simply not true in 99% of the cases.

    I apologize for that rant. Just wanted to throw my muttled nonsensical 2 cents in.

    And I know at the beginning of this post I made it sound like I don't make too much online, but I've made a lot more than the $10k from eBay, and the $300 from affiliate marketing. There are lots of different income streams online and I've tapped into quite a few of them. I'd just rather swing my focus towards internet marketing since it's something I actually enjoy doing. And now that I have a system in place, and I like what I'm doing, and I'm doing tons of testing, I'm not too worried about things working out.
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  • Profile picture of the author JimmyS
    I think you should re-evaluate your strategy and spend more time on organic SEO rather than the paid once..... Just a suggestion though.....
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    • Profile picture of the author Ernie Lo
      Wow what a complete load of crap you just posted:rolleyes:

      Look mate I've been trying Internet Marketing for 5 years and only recently have been making regular income and I'll tell you right now why you keep failing.......

      It's because you are focusing on all the wrong things!

      Why are you learning HTML and graphic design? You dont need to! Ever heard of wordpress? Use it! And besides ugly sites sell better, you dont need some fancy website trust me.
      And your attitude sucks big time, you're quick to blame everyone but yourself on all your failures. Its your fault and nobody elses, because your not focusing and probably are being too lazy. Are you sure your not spending half your time on the forum and half of it on Facebook?

      "95% of all gurus products are scams"

      Um nope not even close! Its ALL your fault you didnt do the required work. The first step is to take responsibility for your failures because I tell you right now its damn hard not to make money online if you follow a system properly and do the required work daily and stick at it.

      Niche selection is crucial and the ones you have tried are way too competitive.

      I'm not going to type anymore as I'd be wasting my time with you....either stop crying and accept responsibility and get to work on a real system or go away because there are plenty of dedicated hard working people here who are working their asses off, having little sleep and making real sacrifices trying to make their dreams become a reality.
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  • Profile picture of the author alunmax
    Hi,

    Ernie's post is hard-hitting but I wouldn't disagree with any of it. It's easy to get sucked into thinking you can magic up a fortune overnight, and off you go chasing the next shiny new product. I've done that too. Get your head right, realise that people DO make money at this, because they are doing things that you're not.

    Find a hungry market you can provide value to.
    Set up a blog at Wordpress.org.
    Set up one or more squeeze pages with opt-in form, ethical bribe, and link to Aweber.
    Upload regular, keyword-optimised posts to your blog with links embedded to your squeeze page.
    Submit those posts as articles to the top directories (EZA, Goarticles etc) with a link in resource box back to your blog, using the keywords in the anchor text.
    Add a form box to your blog, configured to your Aweber account.
    Post to other relevant blogs with valuable content and a link back to your blog.
    Participate in relevant forums with a signature link and POSITIVE CONTENT!!!!

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  • Profile picture of the author Evanna Zainal
    I just skip because this kind of post pretty sure will just demotivate me for being success.

    Bye.
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  • Profile picture of the author spear
    Hey i am a newbie and hungry to make loads of money in this field.
    what you need is not to give up soon. Give it another try
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  • Profile picture of the author JackPowers
    If everyone succeeded in everything all the time, then there would be nothing to earn anywhere.

    We all start at different levels in life. If we want to succeed then it's better to worry about YOU than THEM.

    Low entry barriers usually mean a lot of competition.

    You have to better than someone to get what you want in life. Life is competition and very few begin at the top.

    Besides that, I second Mohammed Afaq, it's all about having a system that works even if it's not earning a lot, then you can tweak and test and do it better all the while reinvesting that income.

    Trying to skip ahead by cheating or buying your way into riches will likely fail most of the time.

    Consider this time your education. That's what I do.

    Does someone walk in from Med School and demand to be Chief of Medicine? No, you begin as an intern with crappy wages and long hours, but it's part of your education, so you should be happy to get paid at all.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author schu31
    I believe the market is growing. I also understand your frustrated and feel lost in the system. You mentioned old marketers who are making lots of money. How about following someone who is successful and see what you can learn. This is a learning industry where we are faced with the dynamics of life. Rise above it.
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  • Profile picture of the author thatgirlJ
    Originally Posted by takis76 View Post

    Almost one year passed in my internet marketing journey and over %95 of products I tried are scams and in the best case the less than %5 doesn't brinks what that they promises.

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    This is a shining example of why it's so important to have a good mindset. I've bought many IM products over the years, and not one of them has been a scam. Some have been poor products, sure. However, there has not been a single product that I couldn't pull at least one golden gem out of. Success is what you make it.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    My best advice to you is this. Screw SEO, screw CPA, screw Internet Marketing Courses - screw it all. All this stuff will just bog you down. Focus instead on giving stuff away for free and building a list. If you can get just 40 new optins per day, in one years time you will have 15,000 members and be able to make up to $15,000/month just as an affiliate.

    If you take this advice and become a world class list builder, you will have everything you ever wanted. Focus just on that like a laser. Get started on building a list and a relationship and watch what happens. Forget everything else for now. This information is worth a lot more to you than any Internet Marketing course will ever teach you.
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  • Profile picture of the author jbento
    Well, I can't say I loved your post. You hit some right points but other you fail for far.

    It's true that there are a lot of scams in IM and that the majority of programs, courses and ebooks don't deliver what they promise. After 1 year you should now learn not to buy that kind of stuff, I'm quite sure you already have all the information you need to start building a business.

    Secondly, you may say that you did take action (people will tell you that 95% of newbies fail because they don't take action) but you're missing something: what kind of action? You must take action with a purpose, not just because if you take action you'll succeed.

    You need a plan. You already read some replies about selecting a niche, create content, drive traffic and then monetize. I can tell you it's true. As a person that is around for almost two years without making a cent, since a few months ago I changed my mindset.

    Having not much money to invest, I asked my self: how to do it for free?

    I made a plan. I envisioned what my business would be and made reverse engineering, figuring what I need to learn, what I need to do in a daily basis. You see, I changed from try everything at the same time and never getting results to being focused in my plan and building my way accordingly. And I can tell you that in 30 days I got more traffic, more subscribers and even more money that in the whole two years before.

    Stop blaming gurus, crap e-books and expensive programs. Assume responsibility for your actions and your failures. Analyze what you did in the past year, identify where you failed, what went wrong. Then plan for the future, avoid the same mistakes and stick to the plan.

    And forget the techy stuff. With a little knowledge about how things work you've a lot of free tools and a lot of free help everywhere. Just take a look in this forum, there are always someone ready to help.

    Need a site? Use Wordpress, it's free. Need to create videos? Lots of free tools for non-techy savvy. Plan, work on your plan, and solve the questions when they appear. It's easy, takes a little time, but it's free.

    Cheers

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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Some people are not cut out to be Internet Marketers. You might be one of them. Other than PPC, which you could not afford if you let your children go hungry to run a campaign, you haven't said what exactly you have done in the past year other than spend money.

    Spending money with no particular plan in mind is a waste of ... well, money. You should be familiar enough with many IM methods by now to settle into one and work on that and forget about all the other sales pages out there luring you into some other direction.

    What have you done? How many sites do you have? Landing pages? How big is that list you've been building? How many articles have you submitted? How have you been driving traffic to all of your sites, if you have any?

    I'd rather hear about what you are doing wrong ... what's causing you to fail rather than all the passing the buck and blaming you're doing.

    You alone are responsible for whether or not you fail or succeed in anything you do. If you think you're getting scammed ... wise up and stop believing crap that is too good to be true to start with.

    The sooner you stop trying to "get rich quick" and start building a business, the sooner you might start to see a little success.
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    • Profile picture of the author Vogin
      Giving up and looking for excuses is so much easier, isn't it. Most of what you said is true and I still think I'll succeed, because I'm a capable person. See you on the other side...
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    • Profile picture of the author inter123
      The post does sound somewhat negative.

      Totally disagree with the view "if you didn't start in 2001, its too late". That is so wrong. The market is far from saturated and the opportunities are waiting to be picked up. The Internet is in its infancy to medium level of growth, perhaps in 10 years it will be saturated.

      If you want to become rich with IM, you are at the right place at the right time.

      More and more people are going online and there is a huge market. People are moving away from 'traditional' modes of buying such as shops and doing it on the Internet. Everyday there is a new wave of people using the net and potential customers.

      In my regular off-line job, I see an erosion of customers because they prefer to do business on line rather then face to face. Its given them huge choice, instead of making purchase from just one company, they have the opportunity to make comparisions with thousands of businesses. And buying online often get a better deal.

      The good thing is with IM, there is not just one way of making money, there are many forms. I suppose sometimes, having too many options can confuse people.

      I do reckon the more experience someone has with Computers and the Internet the easier it is. Perhaps you have about 1 years experience with the Internet in general and need a bit more to become more accostomed and experienced.

      Professionally I am a Computer Programmer but it never worked out. 10 years ago I worked for a few years as an Internet Programmer before moving on and this experience does help with the software, understanding of technology and the processes of the Internet.

      Its no point complaining because it does work. As for 'gurus' peddling products, there is a lot of junk but you don't need buy anything. All the information you need is out there for free on the Internet, a case of searching for it. In fact everyting is available on this forum.

      The only thing money needs to be spent potentially on is outsourcing. Though its possible for one person to do everything, its time consuming and will slow progress.

      Forget PPC and try something else.
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  • Profile picture of the author sharpturn
    takis76

    I agree with Ernie's post but I also totally understand your position and can't help but feel for your frustrations. Like many in this thread I started this IM thing over a year age and I had zero knowledge of anything computer related......I didn't even know how to use the internet properly. All I could use was MSN.....dass it!!!!

    Like you, I was in a financial pickle struggling even to get a decent meal in. I am not even out of the situation yet.......but I am moving.

    In the beginning for that first year I had emotional ups and downs as to whether this IM thing really does work. Was I wasting my time?

    No I wasn't. I would feel just how you described in your post for days on end.....but I kept going.

    I worked more hours than the average bear, many times staying up till the early hours. I felt lost......but I kept going.

    I would try all kinds of differnet things and constantly overloaded on information. "I can't do this anymore.....I am not getting anywhere!!" I would say to myself...........but I did keep going.

    Attack...attack...attack.....then suddenly I start to see some results. I start to see some sales coming in. The traffic to my sites build up. I begin to take information in easier......and so the ball keeps rolling.

    I have always planned for the long term slow growing business and so I have always worked with free traffic. I won't even touch PPC until I am financially comfortable.

    Take a break. Step back from what you have worked with the past year and take what you have learned as a positive thing. Look at what didn't work, read through the WF forum for a week and then start something fresh and new.

    You can do it......coz I did it and still am.

    To end, there are three things that are helping me push through and find my success......

    Perseverance
    Patientce
    and a belief in myself that I can do it whatever the odds.


    Tommorrow the sun will rise....get out there and bathe in it!


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  • Profile picture of the author zorus
    1 product 1 offer
    if doesn't work improve offer
    repeat
    in the process get mails for future upsells and affiliates sells
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  • Profile picture of the author justcrowd2010
    You must always look for possibilities and assure that you are having positive results
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    • Profile picture of the author scrofford
      Originally Posted by Guest Poster View Post

      The Internet Marketing Center has been sold. The office has closed, and it's now run from a house in Coquitlam with only a handful of staff working remotely. I for one am surprised that it took so long for it to to closed after Corey's death.

      The new owner is an "investment" firm named Fundamental Technologies II.

      Look under their "portfolios, and IMC is listed first. The COO was done the end of April, word is the main value of the company was based on it's database, not the products it's created over the years.

      Rest in peace Corey. You are still missed.
      Yeah but this company might actually help improve things also. One could only hope. The IMC is awesome, but I have noticed some things lacking like newsletters they have promised etc. I do love the Insider Secrets course though! It has taught me a lot. And yes RIP Corey...I didn't know him, but a friend of mines mother knew him personally.
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  • Profile picture of the author takis76
    I remember I have post this , 3 years ago.
    I am still in the same level as 3 years ago I had this post , posted here.

    In the 1st years , I used only dog niche and diet niche and google adwords.

    Fast Forward today I have tried everything and I am in worst place. I spent even more money that 3 years ago , I purchased more systems than 3 years , I did more things ago and the same conclusion waste your money moron making Americans rich.

    I am laughing with myself giving and advices

    One piece of the internet marketing puzzle is , collect ideas from others
    Collect outdated ideas and B U L L S H I T S from others.

    There are no puzzles , just naive people and morons waste their money to snakeoil marketers hopping for a place to the Sun and today I am in the same condition and worst than I was 3 years ago and the conclusion is they delete my posts.

    Forget it is not working , rich people are criminals and your money is stolen.
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    • Profile picture of the author takis76
      I remember I have post this , 3 years ago.
      I am still in the same level as 3 years ago I had this post , posted here.

      In the 1st year , I used only dog niche and diet niche and google adwords.

      Fast Forward today I have tried everything and I now things are worst. I spent even more money that 3 years ago , I purchased more systems than 3 years ago, I did more things that I did 3 years ago and the same conclusion waste money you moron making Americans rich.

      Did you seriously not feed your kids so you could save money?
      Hehe , I don't have kids and no one is starving to save my money for crap products , this was an example I saw it now after a long time and I answer you now.

      So in that year how many opt ins have you gotten?
      let me guess? Zero?

      That is one of your issues I can guarantee you that.
      I am not an asshole who captures innocent people's e-mails and bombard them everyday with B U L L S H I T S as all of you are already making every day.
      I am not stealing money YOU STEALING MONEY from innocent people in YOUR lists.





      I am laughing with myself giving and advices

      Collect outdated ideas and B U L L S H I T S from others.
      There are no puzzles , just naive people and morons waste their money to snakeoil marketers hopping for a place to the Sun and today I am in the same condition and worst than I was 3 years ago and the conclusion is they delete my posts.

      Forget it is not working , rich people are criminals and your money is stolen.

      Its a human behavior. Humans believes in dreams and purchase stories and hopes.

      They purchase because they believe they will lose weight , they purchase because they believe they become rich , they purchase because you have washed their brains and they believe they are happy and their problems have solved. (You insult the intelligence of your customers selling a diet and re selling another diet a day after and your customer not yet tried the first diet). Greedy marketers , there is not value to your customers. Pretend you are giving value to your customers , you are bombarding your customers 7 times until convince them to purchase this is the truth.

      Welcome to internet marketing Utopia. If you want to succeed pretend you are a friend , pretend you will help , say lies to make sales and the vicious brainwashed circle continues and the victims are happy because they seems to be happy.

      I am awaken , I will not purchase your products , I will not pretend I am your friend , I will not capture your e-mails , I will not sell you B U L L S H I T S.
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    • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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      Originally Posted by takis76 View Post

      I remember I have post this , 3 years ago.
      I am still in the same level as 3 years ago I had this post , posted here.

      In the 1st years , I used only dog niche and diet niche and google adwords.

      Fast Forward today I have tried everything and I am in worst place. I spent even more money that 3 years ago , I purchased more systems than 3 years , I did more things ago and the same conclusion waste your money moron making Americans rich.

      I am laughing with myself giving and advices



      Collect outdated ideas and B U L L S H I T S from others.

      There are no puzzles , just naive people and morons waste their money to snakeoil marketers hopping for a place to the Sun and today I am in the same condition and worst than I was 3 years ago and the conclusion is they delete my posts.

      Forget it is not working , rich people are criminals and your money is stolen.
      So, according to your own words, you're a moron. Maybe that's why you haven't succeeded in three years.
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  • Profile picture of the author therichb
    IM has become truly advanced & people are now using viral mode of bringing traffic to their sites.

    I am really surprised how people get so massive traffic with these core concepts which seems to be easy in learning but really complex to apply.
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  • Profile picture of the author anthonysong
    "Forget it is not working , rich people are criminals and your money is stolen."

    I think it's because of this belief you have that you are not succeeding in life
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    • Profile picture of the author cjreynolds
      Originally Posted by anthonysong View Post

      "Forget it is not working , rich people are criminals and your money is stolen."

      I think it's because of this belief you have that you are not succeeding in life
      OK, I did it again - didn't read the entire thread before replying, didn't notice the thread was 2 years old...

      But it looks like takis76 resurrected this thread, not sure why... guess he wants to rebuke us all for being stupid.

      Anthony, I think you hit on the core of the problem - if he's going at this with an attitude like that, it doesn't matter what strategy he chooses. he'll fail because he wants to fail. He has decided he hates IM, and so to succeed at it will only prove that he is wrong, so that's not going to happen. His subconscious mind won't let him - it will throw up roadblocks to his success.

      The only winners in this world are people who want to be winners. Those who don't want to be winners will be, well... Losers.
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  • Profile picture of the author cjreynolds
    Originally Posted by takis76 View Post

    Almost one year passed in my internet marketing journey and over %95 of products I tried are scams and in the best case the less than %5 doesn't brinks what that they promises.

    Very few gives good ideas. As I understand as not a flat newbie but with 1 year experience only. If you want to become a marketer who makes at least $200 per month , you have a lot of work to do.

    Most marketers who sells products that claim , you are able to make $223.320 in 10 days and you will have 30.000 people in your list in one month and others which claim , you will have 700 opt-ins every day and other claim , your website will be ranked in first 3 places in google in 3 days and all of these are crap promises and a LIES. None of them are real.

    I am fighting , and I say I am fighting as a warrior I am here in this forum , and I do more work than my daily work. And so far I have done nothing.

    I am learning html , I am learning flash , I am learning graphics design , I used to use paintshop pro , so photoshop like programms will be easier to be learnt.

    But the truth is , if you want to become a marketer who makes $200 per month and if you manage to reach this level , you will be very happy.

    The only thing I manage to do , was one sale , in december of 2009 , because it was christmass , I payed 200 Euros in google adwords and I sell one diet program for $30 I was very happy I manage to sell $30 and I payed $200. After that , I didn't manage , to sell any other product , because my adwords account wiped out. and my campaigns stopped. I tried to fund my account after christmass , and I made no sales , because christmass passed and no people wants to purchase something anymore.

    The only truth is , you need to fight as warrior in internet marketing war. And some times the work you have to do , is much more than the work you do , in your 9 to 5 work.

    And in most times your 9 to 5 work will give you more money than the internet marketing. So far in my journey , I spend , I spend , I spend....

    And my e-mail is spammed , spammed , spammed....

    Other fact. If you didn't start in 2001 , now you are late. Most succesful marketers start 10 years ago. Now the market is oversaturated. And the search engines have assimilate the old websites and marketers. So the traffic streams goes to old sharks.
    Also , most of clickbank products , already soldout , in fact oversold out , years ago. Already the old sharks have sold products that , you as a newbie try to sell again. Who will purchase , every people here is trying to sell dog training books , how many dogs you will train? Are you going to train all dogs on planet earth? If you train all dogs on this planet , what dog training techers and centers do? If you sell dog training books to trail all the dogs of this planet , then I will be very proud for you , you became a succesful dog trainer.

    But we , newbie marketers who we don't have enough money to sustain our campaigns , I will give you an example. Most of you poor internet marketers as me , you have save your last $100 and you didn't feed your children at night to save these last $100 to fund your poor google adwords campaign. You are struggling to create one poor campaign in adwords with Quality score 1 to 4 and with daily budget $5 to $10 to manage to have your poor campaign for 10 to 15 alive. You post your campaign and the Google Boss slap your campaign with 1/10 quality score and you need to bid higher. But your poor budget is only $10 per day so you bid higher , but in the other side the fat cat , with $100.000 in account bids higher against you , so your poor daily budget reach the $10 a day , and your poor campaign stopped.
    And the days passed , you take 20 clicks a day , because you can't sustain more , because your daily budget is very small , you have to choose , if $20/day and 5 days or $10/day and 10 days.

    In both cases you are doomed. Even if someone click your campaigns , your impressions are very few , your campaign need to get matured , and you need at least 30 days to sustain your campaign , but in the other side your enemy , have bigger weapons than you , you are trying to fight with maces and the enemy hits with nuclear weapons.

    Your account have $100 only and the enemy have $100.000 your impressions are less than 10000 but the enemy have more than 10.000.000 and you pay $0.40 for each click and your enemy pays $0.01 for each click. Who will win?

    Your campaigns appears once an hour , your enemy compaigns appears every second.

    Your campaigns have 2/10 quality score , your enemy campaigns have 9/10 or 10/10.

    So my friends , the internet marketing game , is already lost for us the poor ones.

    The only one thing which save us and give us a hope , is the market is very deep , but you have a lot of work to do.

    One piece of the internet marketing puzzle is , collect ideas from others.

    OMG! I'm so depressed! I think I'll quit IM and slash my wrists!

    Is this really how you see it? Dude, take a prozac and step back for a minute! It's really not that bad...

    Sounds like your luck hasn't been great so far, but many people have done the same things you're talking about (lately) and made good money. I can see how you could get pretty skeptical about this, if you've tried all these things and haven't seen any success.

    But I've seen too many other successes to be skeptical - people who are making a living at this right now, and didn't start ten years ago, either. I know it's hard to believe when nothing seems to work for you, but it is possible!

    You've probably heard this 100 times before, but Thomas Edison tried literally thousands of designs before he came up with a viable light bulb - tried over 6,000 different types of plant matter to supply the filament.

    You have a great advantage over Edison. You have lots of people here who have already done what you're trying to do. Stick with it, and stick with the WF - you'll get there!

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  • Profile picture of the author AceofSpades0
    While most of what you said is true, not all of it is. you have to be willing enough to learn on your own and not take every1's words and think they are gonna bring you thousands. never believe those make xx in 10 days, there all bologne. this is old news.
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