Being Broken and Hit Rock Bottom is Mandatory to Become Succesful?

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Seems to be the rule for success, I 've seen like a bizillions of sales letters from IM Gurus and all of them have one thing in common... They all hit rock bottom before "become rich".

Seriously almost every Guru out there told you that has a background of missery, countless of sales letters are filled with financial, mental and spirit broke stories, people with no money, no job, no home, a wife pregnant of quintuplets, eating from a trash can... wasted humans beings with no hope...

And then... they find the way up and make millions on internet and after having nothing they now spend their money on fancy cars and mansions, private planes...

Somehow it's kinda make sense, if you hit rock bottom there is no way but up... is like you need to be humilliated, tortured and crucified to resurrect as a supreme being.

That's make me wonder... Do I have to loose everything before make some real money online?
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  • Profile picture of the author Lou Diamond
    Hello,
    I once did this and it helped, I staved for a day and slept on a park bench to see what would happen if did nothing.
    It gave me a whole new lease on life.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Well, in my case, it's true. I lost my job (2000) and was on the verge of
      losing my home. In fact, I almost had a nervous breakdown during the
      period. I was clinically severely depressed.

      Honestly, how I pulled myself out of it and managed to achieve what I
      have is a mystery to me. I think most people would have just folded.

      But I thought of my wife and my daughter and it kept me going.

      Today, I spend more time puttering around in my recording studio than I
      do working on my business.

      But it didn't come easy.
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    • Profile picture of the author butters
      No... Plenty and I mean plenty of highly successful people in the world who came from well off backgrounds, average backgrounds and poor backgrounds. You don't have to hit rock bottom before you do something, plenty of people in the world have nothing and they ain't getting out of it any time soon. Why? It's all to do with mindset, they know their situation isn't good but they ain't willing to take the risk or put in the effort to change it. Maybe they can't change it because of their situation but it has nothing to do with going broke, it is all mindset.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Smale
    No. Bear in mind 95% of sales pages are pure b/s anyway.

    You don't need to hit rock bottom - although it does help to have some kind of motivating factor other than "becoming rich".
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      Originally Posted by Thomas Smale View Post

      No. Bear in mind 95% of sales pages are pure b/s anyway.
      Where did you find that statistic? Who performed the study? How was it conducted?
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      • Profile picture of the author butters
        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

        Where did you find that statistic? Who performed the study? How was it conducted?
        I am guessing you didn't get the memo... Most statistics which people say are made up.
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        • Profile picture of the author radhika
          That's make me wonder... Do I have to loose everything before make some real money online?
          Not necessarily. For a minute close your eyes and make believe those sales letters are true (I don't believe them anyway...). Learn from them.

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        • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
          Originally Posted by butters View Post

          I am guessing you didn't get the memo... Most statistics which people say are made up.
          Only 76.3% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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          • Profile picture of the author George Wright
            Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

            Only 76.3% of statistics are made up on the spot.
            Extensive research indicates that Internet Marketing can kill you.

            99.999% of anyone entering into the IM field will die before they reach their 150th birthday. I've gotta find another job.

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        • Profile picture of the author ozduc
          Learn how a Spoiled Rich Kid, born with a silver spoon in his mouth strikes it rich working from home on the internet while still in his PJ's.

          Doesn't have quite the same ring to it as most sales letters does it? I don't think there would be too many average people who could identify with it.
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          • Profile picture of the author butters
            Originally Posted by ozduc View Post

            Doesn't have quite the same ring to it as most sales letters does it? I don't think there would be too many average people who could identify with it.
            True but it can easily be portrayed as, spoilt rich kids leaves life of riches behind and becomes like you so he could make it on his own without being gifted anything.

            No matter the story, it can sound good if you can word it right. Mine isn't exactly worded right but you get the idea behind it :p.
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            • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
              Originally Posted by butters View Post

              True but it can easily be portrayed as, spoilt rich kids leaves life of riches behind and becomes like you so he could make it on his own without being gifted anything.

              No matter the story, it can sound good if you can word it right. Mine isn't exactly worded right but you get the idea behind it :p.
              Exactly. The important thing is to be truthful. Whatever your story, you can likely find a way to spin it to make it interesting.
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            • Profile picture of the author ozduc
              Originally Posted by butters View Post


              No matter the story, it can sound good if you can word it right. Mine isn't exactly worded right but you get the idea behind it :p.
              Excellent point. People love a good story.
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          • Profile picture of the author Ty Neal
            Originally Posted by ozduc View Post

            Learn how a Spoiled Rich Kid, born with a silver spoon in his mouth strikes it rich working from home on the internet while still in his PJ's.

            Doesn't have quite the same ring to it as most sales letters does it? I don't think there would be too many average people who could identify with it.
            Now if I see a headline like that I may purchase the product just because of the headline LOL, Every person who had success had a down fall in life it part of the process. Why a lot of people cant have success is because they can not handle the down fall or afraid of the downfall.

            But if you seen the headline above will u be motivated Hmmm...
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      • Profile picture of the author Thomas Smale
        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

        Where did you find that statistic? Who performed the study? How was it conducted?
        I made it up.

        My point was that in the vast majority of sales pages the truth is likely to have been bent at least once.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ray Erdmann
        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

        Where did you find that statistic? Who performed the study? How was it conducted?

        You're not going to sit there and tell me the MAJORITY of sales pages, written by some highly qualified 'copywriters', don't BEND THE TRUTH when it comes to what can be done with whatever is being sold, use psychological 'triggers' to PUSH the reader to ordering/subscribing whatever the latest/greatest product is...do you? ;-)
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        • Profile picture of the author Ray Erdmann
          Hitting rock bottom is irrelevant! Having the 'burning desire' to succeed, regardless of your current situation, is what's needed in order to obtain those dreams/goals you seek in life, whether it be short-term gratification or long-term fulfillment.

          Based on my own experiences, I've hit what I feel many would call 'rock bottom' and it was so bad that I've held a loaded gun in my hand, and have attempted to take my own life on more then occasion and the only reason I'm still hear is because somewhere inside of me I knew I was put on this planet to do something good, to help someone else who was or is, in even more need of help or guidance then myself, but those thoughts took many weeks, if not months to resurface after each monumental battle was over.

          And to this day, even after hitting rock bottom, I'm still not at that level of 'success' that I thought I'd have by this stage in my life.

          HOWEVER

          Being the ever 'optimistic' person I am...or should I say 'have become since hitting rock bottom'...I continue pushing ahead, rowing the boat myself when those around me won't, simply because I know 'eventually', something's gotta give.

          So, to recap:

          Is hitting rock bottom mandatory? NO
          But if you do hit rock bottom, then you better hope for a strong positive outlook, fueled by a burning desire to better your current situation and knowledge to keep yourself from hitting the floor again.
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

        Where did you find that statistic? Who performed the study? How was it conducted?
        WHAT? You think it is HIGHER!?!?!? How high do YOU feel it is!?!?!? I have to say, that I have seen a LOT of sales pitches. OK, MOST tell SOMEWHAT the truth about the phone number and address, MAYBE! But most ARE BS!

        HECK, I once called a number on an ad, in a FULL page in computer world, about a new card. They were even shocked when they found out I had the number! They did NOT help me with technical info as they claimed AND I found that almost the whole thing was BS right down to the claim that they provided 132 column in hardware. The company's name? IBM! WOW, I could run a LONG list! SO, are the PURE B/S? Well, WHAT do you consider pure? As to percentage? It is PRETTY HIGH!

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    • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
      Originally Posted by Thomas Smale View Post

      No. Bear in mind 95% of sales pages are pure b/s anyway.

      You don't need to hit rock bottom - although it does help to have some kind of motivating factor other than "becoming rich".
      Are you saying that hitting rock bottom is a motivating factor? Somebody at rock bottom just wants enough to get to the next day. Somebody with a little success wants to have a lot of success. A little success is the best motivating factor of anything. Once you have some, you strive to get more.
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  • Profile picture of the author inter123
    IM is effectively a sales world and in such an environment people are more likely to be economical with the truth then some other fields.

    As human we are all unique and no one size fits everyone. There are many people who as a result of hitting rock bottom have slipped further into another world.

    Sometimes coming from a position of previlage actually help: there is positive references to spur the person on. While someone at the low ebb are full of negativity and fear, are unable to come out of it.

    Personally if you ask me, its better not to hit rock bottom, why go through the suffering and the hell it brings.

    People seem to celebrate ones that have nothing and become something. I would have thought though for each one of those there are thousands who got no where.

    Maybe so called IM gurus or salesmen use such stories as it creates a notion of romance and heroism and the idea is easier to sell.


    Originally Posted by neodarth View Post

    Seems to be the rule for success, I 've seen like a bizillions of sales letters from IM Gurus and all of them have one thing in common... They all hit rock bottom before "become rich".

    Seriously almost every Guru out there told you that has a background of missery, countless of sales letters are filled with financial, mental and spirit broke stories, people with no money, no job, no home, a wife pregnant of quintuplets, eating from a trash can... wasted humans beings with no hope...

    And then... they find the way up and make millions on internet and after having nothing they now spend their money on fancy cars and mansions, private planes...

    Somehow it's kinda make sense, if you hit rock bottom there is no way but up... is like you need to be humilliated, tortured and crucified to resurrect as a supreme being.

    That's make me wonder... Do I have to loose everything before make some real money online?
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    • Profile picture of the author robofx
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      Originally Posted by inter123 View Post

      I would have thought though for each one of those there are thousands who got no where.
      I read a good book called, "Fooled By Randomness," by Nassim Taleb.

      He talks about a fictional professional Russian Roulette player. The champion keeps pulling the trigger and surviving every time, making millions of dollars at the international Russian Roulette championships and being featured on the cover of sports and pop-culture magazines, along with his beautful wife and children and mansions and private jets etc.

      He's interviewed by all the sports world talking heads. They ask him how he does it. He tells them all about how he carefully selects special bullets, pulls the hammer back in his gun just so - his technique for squeezing the trigger.

      Precisely where you have to place the barrel against the temple, how much pressure you must use, etc.

      Somehow the interviewers never manage to visit the cemetery to interview his losing challengers. :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
    I haven't become rich money-wise but I've been working IM full-time since 2007. I had what is considered a good, steady job in corporate America but there was plenty of humiliation and torture working for a huge corporation.

    Probably not as good as not being able to afford food or have a place to live but I don't think you have to hit that low in order to be successful but it makes for a better story in their sales pitch.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
    Originally Posted by neodarth View Post

    Seems to be the rule for success, I 've seen like a bizillions of sales letters from IM Gurus and all of them have one thing in common... They all hit rock bottom before "become rich".

    That's make me wonder... Do I have to loose everything before make some real money online?
    That's complete nonsense. All hitting rock bottom does is give you a great story to tell and maybe some extra motivation.

    All that is really required for success is a good idea and a way to get your idea in front of the people who want it (without spending more than you make).
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    First off ... don't believe everything you read. Not all sales pages tell the truth. And no ... I never really hit rock bottom or was a convict or homeless or was starving to death before I saw success in my business. I've had more and less money at times but never considered myself at rock bottom.

    Work hard, make a plan, make changes when necessary, learn a lot, and sometimes you will even fail, but you will learn something every time you do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Colton
    Hitting rock bottom makes your realize a WHOLE LOT OF THINGS. I think it makes you so much stronger to actually feel what it's like and to tell yourself that you never wanna feel that way again. I think it improves your work ethic and dedication.
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    • Profile picture of the author neodarth
      Is not that I want to hit rock bottom, I don't need that perspective to put some extra effort on my business.

      What I'm talking about, is that seems to be more inspirational and historically popular take the Hero Journey aproach in a sales letter. The poor kid that finds an artifact (magic lamp, gates of hell, R2 Unit, Internet Marketing system), and with the help of a guide (genie, virgil, Obiwan, IM Guru), begins a journey (saving the girl, cross hell purgatory and heaven, fight the empire, work from home) to conquer the world (jazmin princess, Beatrice, destroy de death star, Become multi millionaire).

      The average Joe who identifies with you, who's being broke like you, struggling like you, full of debts like you, with no skills like you, no college like you and becomes a billionaire working on his pijama just like you want to be.

      How many people finish reading the sales letter or watching the video with his last pennies on their credit card in hand screaming YES I WANT TO BE LIKE YOU!

      Powerful stuff...
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  • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
    Hitting rock bottom is not the key to success, if it was why do we have parks full of people who have hit bottom and bummed out ?

    it is more to do with something than can be stirred inside of some people, rock bottom or not, a bit like a fire that you cant put out, I have had enough now i want my share.
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  • Profile picture of the author pheonix44
    I know what it is to be down, a while ago I was so down I had to go to soup kitchens just to get a meal. Now that I have a little dough whenever I go out to eat I savor every last drop. I even take home some of the breaksticks and rolls.
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  • Profile picture of the author Maddi
    I think the most important factor in any kind of success is the Burning Desire.

    Now hitting rock bottom facilitates the Burning Desire but that factor can come from without hitting rock bottom too. As long as you Want it Bad enough, you'll get it.

    I've hit rock bottom a couple of times didn't help

    But yes, it did fuel the already present, Burning desire in me.

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  • Profile picture of the author XFactor
    Originally Posted by neodarth View Post


    Somehow it's kinda make sense, if you hit rock bottom there is no way but up... is like you need to be humilliated, tortured and crucified to resurrect as a supreme being.

    That's make me wonder... Do I have to loose everything before make some real money online?
    I personally hit rock bottom several times over the last 10 years with
    going from business start up to business start up.

    (Edit: Make that 15 years, with 10 years of actually investing money into
    offline businesses).

    I'm not saying people MUST go through it, but looking back - I would not
    have changed a thing.

    It helped me to grow as a person and as a business owner, and gave me
    the fuel and power needed to make a huge success of my efforts online.

    No, it was not fun losing our home or cars due to my hard-headed efforts
    on succeeding on my own, but it was a key ingredient at getting me to
    where I am today.

    This was from off-line business efforts, some bad, some great.

    So when I came online, it was all a breeze.

    - John
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  • Profile picture of the author Charleskidd
    I agree with maddi because everyone wants to be rich. When you have a burning desire it gives a big push. To tell you the truth, I have heard this many times from great books.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris W. Sutton
    Being Broken and Hit Rock Bottom is Mandatory to Become Succesful?
    No, not at all! I know some people who came into the online game, worked hard and became successful.

    Being broken and hitting rock bottom is just what it takes for some people to get motivated enough to do whatever they need to do to become successful.
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  • Profile picture of the author chrisyates
    Sure makes the claim that "anyone can do this" more believable if they did it when they were at rock bottom doesn't it?
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam Nolan
    The reason why people become wealthy is because when they hit rock bottom they make a decisions...

    NEVER AGAIN!

    And it becomes an absolute MUST to succeed. It's that drive and determination that pushes them. Look at the Anthony Robbins story.

    It's true, happens to a lot of people... like me for example.
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      Originally Posted by Maverick_ View Post

      The reason why people become wealthy is because when they hit rock bottom they make a decisions...
      NEVER AGAIN!
      And it becomes an absolute MUST to succeed. It's that drive and determination that pushes them. Look at the Anthony Robbins story.
      It's true, happens to a lot of people... like me for example.
      Mentioned before hitting rock bottom was not the answer as we have parks full of people who have hit rock bottom.

      So I started to think, if it's not rock bottom what is it ? the answer I can see is a persons will power to stand up one more time than he is knocked down and look the world in the eye, and is why some stay in the park and some go onto make a better life.
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  • Profile picture of the author Diana Lane
    It's true that there are a lot of rags to riches stories in IM, but you only have to look at the forum to see that it works both ways and that riches to rags stories are fairly common too. At least, I can't think of another explanation for the regular appearance of posters who'll ask how to make $75 by Friday, despite claiming in their sigs that the product they're pushing made them an overnight millionaire.

    Just because they're not actively mentioning the rocky road to ruin and the fairy tale that led them there, it does not mean that they're not successfully telling the story
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  • Profile picture of the author nasssi
    good thread - maybe they lost all their money trying to get rich quick and then figured out the money is in "teaching others" not doing it =) That is where the money is =)
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  • Profile picture of the author Cezar R Abadiano
    I don't think you really need to hit rock bottom in order to be successful. But as most life "stories" go it is the more inspirational one.

    That being said, any life changing event that changes your perspective in life and that motivates you to do better will work.

    The most important thing is your own personal belief that you want to succeed.

    It doesn't matter if you've hit rock bottom or not - if you don't think and strive to get out of it you never will.
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    • Profile picture of the author sanssecret
      Well, if you have to be homeless, skint, destitute or whatever, before making millions, then that must be the reason I haven't made my millions yet.:p

      Never been there and hopefully never will.
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    The thing I see prevalent in most rags to riches success is this: They had a very Clear vision of what they wanted and they did not waver in the face of adversity. Some of us that have not "paid our dues" (me included) have a harder time because we haven't cut though what we really want from what we wish for.
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  • Profile picture of the author tyroneshum
    I can say even if you've hit the bottom or nearly hitting it or not, these challenges in life only tell us that there are greater results when we strive the hardest, make the right decisions, learn from experiences and then eventually reach our goals in the future. I know there maybe true sales letters and there maybe not but still, what matters is these people are inspiring others to do their jobs --effectively.
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  • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
    Originally Posted by neodarth View Post

    Seems to be the rule for success, I 've seen like a bizillions of sales letters from IM Gurus and all of them have one thing in common... They all hit rock bottom before "become rich".
    Don Lupree is the father of this sales pitch. He started out in his "one bedroom apartment".
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  • Profile picture of the author Gemini9
    Neither is mandatory for success. However I think that finding yourself in either situation has way of opening up the horizons of your mind as to what you can do.

    You could have a great job, good salary but still be dissatisfied - or be the victim of a global economic crisis.

    Hitting rock bottom suddenly pushes you through the door of alternative opportunities a lot faster than you would have in when life is cushy and comfy.

    I guess the important thing is to seek those opportunities before you hit rock bottom, and believe that you will succeed at them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Barber
    it would appear that some people need the motivation of being flat broke before they can get off their butts. It's all so that when you have lost everything and then taking a risk on which is minimal cost makes more sense than when you have a successful job etc. I was interested to watch Mike Filsaime recent video showing just how broke he was before he started making money. What interested me is that in his previous promotions he had implied differently. It's kind of flies in the face of some of the other as obviously didn't want people to know how low it got when he has been promoting Butterfly marketing etc. It's interesting that he's chosen to come clean about his past or has a? I'm sure I read somewhere that it's 85.4% of statistics are made up on the spot unless it's a politician and then it's 98.37%.
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  • Profile picture of the author abbie kye
    Fantastic thread - mindset plays a major role as well the WHY you want to do it! In my case, it's simple. Looking for a home based business to free me up to spend time with the kids. Tired of childcare problems and childminders stories! It has been hard! I guess when I succeed I could also write a sales letter tweaking it a bit 'how a single mum of x, devasted by divorce and no where to turn to, blah, blah..." lol! I don't read sales letters. Just skim through it. I find them too laborious, too long!!

    Imagine having 10 of them in your mailbox! that's the whole day gone!
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  • Profile picture of the author Formulam
    Don't think you have to hit rock bottom, but if you have a job which you can tolerate and a reasonable wage, the motivation to get home from work, help the kids with their homework, cook the dinner, clear it away and then sit down to a few hours hard work on the computer can slip a bit.... until something happens to make you see red, or make you determined enough to do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ray Erdmann
    Originally Posted by Glen McWhorter View Post

    I don't think it's mandatory, but if you've lost your job and are broke or on the verge of being broke, well that's a pretty good motivator.
    That's a very BROAD assumption...and I would say those who are able to 'stay positive' AFTER hitting rock bottom are the MINORITY...however...neither one of us has the 'stats' to back up either of our statements!
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Deegan
    It's pretty classic stuff. Kern taught it as "home town boy makes good". The plot is as old as dirt and it can be spun in multiple ways. In most cases the story is true, but it's told in a certain way to create emotional connections and touch points with the reader or viewer.

    The basic plot does not have to involve money per se, but has to do with overcoming a hardship or pain and making it all good in the end. It's based on loss and redemption. We see it as rags to riches because this is the make money market but you could spin this in others markets as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Hitting rock bottom isn't required for a person to be successful, but my God, what a glorious thing to happen. (Retrospectively, anyway.)
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  • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
    ...the REASON why so many people have to hit bottom first...is they are stubborn and won't listen to common sense.

    Ask the people who are AROUND these people and you'll get a common denominatora; stubborn and doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

    Like it has been noted, NOT everyone hits bottom, but it is a story which can be related to, especially in the Money Making Realm...

    The SECRET is to find a plan that suits a person, then get the roadmap and make adustments.

    Honestly, it shouldn't take ANYONE more than 30 days to start making profits online, but, most would rather chase after the 'dream' (often for months or years) than to FOCUS in on making it happen.

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    Originally Posted by neodarth View Post

    Seems to be the rule for success, I 've seen like a bizillions of sales letters from IM Gurus and all of them have one thing in common... They all hit rock bottom before "become rich".

    Seriously almost every Guru out there told you that has a background of missery, countless of sales letters are filled with financial, mental and spirit broke stories, people with no money, no job, no home, a wife pregnant of quintuplets, eating from a trash can... wasted humans beings with no hope...

    And then... they find the way up and make millions on internet and after having nothing they now spend their money on fancy cars and mansions, private planes...

    Somehow it's kinda make sense, if you hit rock bottom there is no way but up... is like you need to be humilliated, tortured and crucified to resurrect as a supreme being.

    That's make me wonder... Do I have to loose everything before make some real money online?
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  • Profile picture of the author willoh
    I can only speak in my behalf, so NO- you don't need to hit rock bottom but it sure helps because being complacent in a lukewarm life is worst
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    • Profile picture of the author Robert Puddy
      Originally Posted by willoh View Post

      I can only speak in my behalf, so NO- you don't need to hit rock bottom but it sure helps because being complacent in a lukewarm life is worst
      Nothing beats having to succeed or your dead... Your forced to do it right, instead of just dicking around.

      No pain no gain isnt just a phrase for body builders or keep fit people.

      Its a fact most people do things in the "well it doesnt matter if i dont do that bit" zone, when your ass is in a sling and the consequences for not doing it right are dire and truly catastrophic will most people do the things that have to be done.

      Thats why most entrepeuners have been through the pain barrier, and thats why most entrepeuners have failed catastrophically...because they are apt to take bigger risks to win.

      Playing it safe is a sure way to stay as you are
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  • Profile picture of the author andreblamads
    I don't believe it's an absolute that you must hit rock bottom to be rich/successful. We each have our own paths to walk. I know one thing is for certain, we all share at least one thing in common in this life, "Every person has experienced pain and disappointment at some point in their life". It's how you cope with that, that makes the difference between the people that remain homeless and the people who rise above it.
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  • Profile picture of the author scrofford
    I've been homeless. I have had absolutely nothing but the clothes on my back and what was in my bag. It sucked. It was hard and I don't recommend someone going that route in order to make a come back. The thing is though that it happened because of the choices I made. It was nobody elses fault...mine and mine alone.

    You don't have to hit rock bottom to become successful. Hitting rock bottom actually complicates it more and makes it harder for recovery as far as losing everything goes. You have to kick, scratch, and fight your way back out of that situation and it takes a lot of energy. I like rags to riches stories, but I think a lot of them are used for hype. You can start being successful from right where you are!
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  • While that was indeed my case a few years back (totally broke and in serious chances of being kicked out of my apartment for not paying the bills) before I got into IM (which saved my ass by the way), I do NOT think it's necessary at all. Had I taken better decisions in my youth I wouldn't have bottomed out as I did and I could have gone up from the very beginning.

    So no, you don't need to hit the floor in order to bounce back up.
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