I feel like I am chasing the clouds...

Sorry dude but IM or any other business will not succeed with "I feel I'm not gonna make it" attitude. Whether you think you can or can't, you're right.

Well then you should quit and go get that minimum wage job! Sounds like you will be much happier and hey, we who are working hard to build a business are going to need you minimum wagers who wash dishes, or bus, or work in a hotel to serve us people who have the right attitude and plan on making it for when we go on those vacations, or go out to eat! So yeah go for it! Sounds good to me! Do me a favor though...take the sob story somewhere else! Thanks

I agree with you. You will never succeed at internet marketing. Reading your post that fact is more than obvious. You are so defeated and negative that success could not find you with a search light.

I'll let you in on a little secret. You aren't any different than anyone else. The only thing that is different and unique to yourself is your bad attitude. Beyond that everyone on this forum started at rock bottom and had to learn their trade form the bottom up.

All those gurus you hear about. Do you think they were born gurus? Imagine little gurus running around in diapers! OMG the faces I'm seeing with pacifiers sticking out of their mouths!

Ultimately failure is a state of mind. Every person on this forum has experienced temporary failure, setbacks, and have gone through learning processes that have been painful and frustrating. So you see you're really no different than anyone else except for the manner in which you handle those things and respond to them.

You'd probably be surprised how many successful marketers struggled for months or years before figuring it all out. I know because I've heard the stories and experienced it myself.

I spent 4 years getting a college degree and 3 more for a Masters. That's 7 years. Now I'm an internet marketer. Nothing I learned in college taught me to do what I do now. I had to give myself the equivalent of a second college education to get that information.

And I had no curriculum to follow so I pretty much made it up as I went along, learning a little here and a little there. Guess what. I still haven't graduated. I still deal with frustration and there are times I wish I was more competent.

But I don't cry in my beer or wallow in self-pity.

Pick yourself up and move forward. Success, when it comes can come in a flood. The worst thing you can do is to give up. Nobody said this business of making money online is easy when you're beginning. On the other hand, when it does come you'll find that it's easier than you think.

I know how you feel in regards to it seeming like you're spinning your wheels and getting nowhere fast. I've been at this for over a year and there's really not much of a sign that I'll be able to quit my day job from my affiliate marketing efforts anytime soon.

Luckily though, IM is a hobby that I'm fairly passionate about . . . and I can't stand not having something to do, so it fills the void that would otherwise be used for playing video games or sitting in front of the dumb tube.

Plus, there is a pretty big difference between where I am now and where I was a year ago when I started. Now I have a system in place. Now I realize that internet marketing is a long term plan, not a short term one. And now I actually make money every single day because I never gave up. No, it doesn't replace the income I get from my 9-5 . . . or even come a fraction of an inch close to it. But the fact that I'm farther ahead now than I was before tells me that as long as I keep at it. . . I'll eventually get to where I want to be. The key is to not give up, and look at every little success as a blessing, learn from them, stick to the plan that got you there, and scale up.

If that's the case, then clearly what you're doing isn't working. You need to either 1) Switch to another method, or 2) Go get a job and forget about it.

Or maybe get a "real" job while you figure it out. We often don't make good decisions when we're desperate, and having a job will allow you to focus more on the long-term.

feedtherightwolf,

Let me tell you a little story...

There was a man with two racing dogs. Each weekend he'd have them race against each other and he'd take bets, giving odds that encouraged people to bet on the dog he wanted them to bet on.

One week the black dog would win, and folks seeing this and considering the favorable odds would bet on the black dog the next weekend. But the white dog would win the next race and the man would rake in the cash and move on to the next town.

This was repeated again and again in town after town, earning the man a great fortune.

When he was old and no longer raced dogs he was asked how he knew which dog was going to win the race. He answered that, each week he'd feed the dog he wanted to win a healthy and plentiful diet, and just give the other dog enough to live on. The dog that ate well was always stronger, so it always won the race.

Your mind and attitude are like those dogs. If you feed them a healthy mental diet they grow stronger and more creative. If you feed them negative thoughts and self-pity, they will stagnate and weaken.

What you feed your mind determines where you're going in life. Which dog have you been feeding? Think about this, and think about your forum nickname, and then . . . feed the right wolf.

Hey feedtherightwolf!

I can understand where you are coming from. But always remember that Chasing the clouds is what makes us different compared to all those who are comfortable with a 9 to 5. Don't settle for less my man because the struggle is what makes it worth it in the end..

Feedtherightwolf, just remember that your story, your struggles will one day be able to inspire hundreds if not thousands of people who will be stuck in the same spot you are in. Do not let the grumpsters we have here on the warrior forum get you even more down.

Surround yourself with positive people and good things will always come.. Challenges are there for a reason, to make us better. So we can learn skills that we never knew..

This game is a marathon and perhaps we're always stuck in the last few miles when we're in search of that breakthrough.. But that's why we need to keep pushing until we make it. After you succeed in what you want to do you feel great, but if you quit now, what will you have gained compared to the feeling that you have conquered what most people have not?

Keep pushing my friend and I hope to one day work with you.. See you at the finish line..

-Jared

While some can control emotions as if they have none. Others can't..

And for those who are able to stay focused during down times, I feel it is energy better spent helping others UP with a helping hand and encouraging words..

Helping others with their problems before your own.. that is how you achieve personal greatness..

But then again, not everybody is in pursuit of this and are enough with watching out for themselves..

Another must watch video...

The Power Of Adversity And Adaptation -

A Great dose of inspiration...

We can all do with a little sometimes...

Enjoy...

The Beautiful Aimee Mullins Proves What The Human Spirit Is Capable Of...
The Power Of Adversity And Adaptation ? The Beautiful Aimee Mullins Proves What The Human Spirit Is Capable Of | PhilosophersNotes Blog

Dave

Thanks for your replies everybody it was a much needed feedback.

I am a guy btw. And depression is not a long shot, I am
a veteran and I had problems with PTSD and depresssion before. 1 thing I was told to do is share my feelings. Since my frasration was in regards to IM i figured I would find some people here who would understand, and I did.

I apologize if I brought somebody down with my negativity. I loved the two dogs story, and its funny how apropriate it was, and how I forgot the core concept
that caused me to pick the username that I did.

I see in your sig file that you are trying to sell Pornography addiction help. How has that worked out for you?

Usually, when one fails it is because they either are not getting targeted traffic, or they are not selling something someone wants to buy.

Maybe switch from addiction help to selling sex toys.

Just Watch This Video Carefully and You Will Understand What You Are Missing in Your Life Right Now...




You Will realize what you should focus on in your life more... Watch it Very Very Carefully..

Hey Friend - after 5 years of doing this stuff, I can tell you that there were times along the way that I thought I would never make it too. But you know something? I never gave up: I kept going, learning from my mistakes as well as my little successes; and now I have managed to build a very successful business. And I'll tell you straight - you CAN do it!

After reading and re-reading your post, my feelings are that you don't have a bad attitude at all; you were simply describing what it feels like to be where you are right now. Well, you won't be there forever, so start imagining what it will feel like when you are successful; enjoy reviewing your 'future-history' and don't tie yourself to your past.

One day, in the future, you will be sitting at your computer encouraging someone else to not give-up. You will remember this moment and it will be of great assistance to some other struggling newbie to learn that you struggled - just like everyone else - but you finally made it!

And good luck!

Will

Never give up Wolf...Stay positive, successful people never quit...how long have you been using a particular strategy and what have you been doing?

Wolf....it's perfectly OK to quit.

This isn't for everybody and anyway the number of people actually 'living the dream' is not as great as you may been led to believe.

I know that all the 'keep going...winners never quit' sentiments posted here are well meaning....but I suspect some of the posters are kidding themselves too. The whole arena is littered with people who will chant out the usual 'positive' affirmations and I'm not knocking that ...really I'm not.

You don't need to feel bad about giving it up and getting a low paid job. The problem is, that while the majority still measure success as 'stuff that you own', real success is just 'happiness'.

If I were you I would compliment myself for having given it my best shot....and move on. Get a job you enjoy doing, throw yourself wholeheartedly into it...as you have with your IM thing....and maybe...later...using some of what you've already learned...you can give it another try on a part time basis.

Just my .02c.

BTW before anybody asks......I do around $25-35k a month...all online...and I love it.


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For every one criticizing the dude,etc...why not offer help or advice he might be able to actually use or act upon.

Many people who try starting a business or working for themselves go through this every now and then. The key is getting through the tuff times.

I recommend reading Pyscho-Cybernetics By Maxwell Maltz and following the exercises in the book every day for at least 20-30 minutes (if not more). They work great (from personal experience) in helping to keep a positive attitude and in developing perseverance.

P.S. Also pick a niche or topic you enjoy and have some passion in. This alone can make the world of difference.

Much love,
Daniel D.

just keep on trying...

You just have to keep going you have to have an upbeat attitude about IM or you will probably never make it.

Hey mate,

Here is my advice.

For some reason ever since I left high school I was super obsessed with running my own online business. I had a thing about not working for others, and I felt I was 'losing' if I 'gave in' and got a regular full time job.

So what happened? I've spent a lot of my 20's nearly flat broke working on one big internet 'startup', with not enough money to do the most basic things but often too proud to throw it all in and just get a job. I'd be working crazy hours, while I watched a lot of my friends who just went and worked normal hours do very well for themselves at their jobs. Yes, I did hit on some money throughout my 20's here and there but it was few and far between and I've had many more lean years than good years.

However, after experiencing life with making a decent amount of money from going to a job Monday-Friday, I absolutely 100% refuse to go back to that lifestyle where I can't even afford to do basic things.

So I decided to hit the 'reset' button, and now what I do is I spend a certain amount of time most evenings on internet marketing activities. Personally I chose 90 minutes. I put in this amount of time 4-5 days a week and make sure I carry through.

Now what I am being disciplined enough to do, while I work during the day I'm making internet marketing 'prove itself' financially before I would consider leaving it for my regular income. I think it is absolutely bananas for those people who leave their regularly paying job and jump into IM when they have never made a penny.

Spend a little bit of time each day, learn from your experiments and give yourself a decent runway as far as time goes. It *might* take months, year or so before you can make decent regular money (Do not listen to the get rich quick guys here, easy come easy go! Slow and steady wins the race). I am not saying that I do not believe it is possible to make big bucks online, but you have to work up to it.

But after that time you will have learnt some fundamental skills that you can apply for the rest of your life to make passive income. That is pretty powerful stuff!

And if you are lost as to the next steps, you are in luck! The new 30 Day Challenge renamed to challenge.co is starting. Follow through with it every day and I guarantee you will have added so much value on to your skill set.

Good luck.

Just about everyone has been there at one time or another. It starts to seem as though low wage workers actually earn more than you in the long run. There are times when $10.50 an hour actually seems like pretty decent money, especially when you are just starting out, working harder than people who seem to have success gravitate toward them and getting nothing to show for it. You have to keep at it in some form or fashion, if you have to take the low wage job take it but keep at the internet marketing. Having another source of income could actually help in terms of investing in your business so that perhaps someday you’ll be able to quit your day job and run your business full time. And hopefully you’ll be in a place where you’ll never have to work for someone else or even entertain that possibility again. Hey the low wage job may actually motivate you to work harder in your IM business so you can get the hell out of there.

feedtherightwolf,

"..and still somehow, it's cloud illusions I recall, I really don't know clouds at all." Joni Mitchell- Lyrics from Both Sides Now.

It has to do with UNDERSTANDING the dream. The purpose. The well defined INTENT.

And that is where so many people get lost. They lack a WELL DEFINED INTENT.

They lack Clarity of purpose. Lack of understanding.

And, yet, the "dream" goes on.

Success, even if they won't admit to it, is most often achieved when FOCUS meets FOUNDATION meets FRAMEWORK.

Ask yourself what your FOCUS is? What is the foundation it is built upon? What Framework do you use?

I see people COMPLICATING the steps, trying to start at the top without getting some quick success they can build upon.

Question: Do MOST addicts, of any kind, really want to stop their addictive behavior? At what point does the WANT come into place?

Just my opinion, but your web site is addressing the wrong target audience. UNLESS you have some specific TARGETED traffic generation system in place, and I can tell from your post, you don't.

My best advice is to go back to square one and get your FOCUS, YOUR PURPOSE and a clearly defined outcome...get it WRITTEN down and then go from there.

I suggest you write a "White Paper" on your subject, something you can give away for free, or as an opt in...on how to help people overcome their addiction...targeted toward friends, family and SPOUSES, mainly wives, who are losing their husband to the online supply of stimulation.

You need to RE THINK what you are doing, you've gotten some good advice here, hope you actually USE it. Good luck.

gjabiz

At least with your job, you can put a little money into IM until it becomes big enough for you to finally quit. That's what I plan on doing after 2 months of getting nowhere.

Best of luck to you.

Hang in there and just keep pushing yourself. I've been there myself. I haven't seen big success but I just got my 4th sale today. Just keep the wheel turning, it takes time as I have found out so far.

For just $499 in three easy installations, I can cure you of those problems and give you the millions of dollars and mansion you are dreaming of. Unleash the Secret Slinky - get the video and attend the seminar. Walk on coal. Believe you can do anything.

Success is part skill, hard work, perseverance, attitude and plenty of luck. You can only hope to make yourself able to be in the position to take advantage of good things when they go your way. Everyone has high and low moments. It's a part of nature and the natural cycle.

Don't listen to the highly critical, conceited cyberclowns. Some of them will tell you how rich they are and they are full of it. Some of them are wealthy and think it all revolves just around brains and how easily they forget when they were in a bad position once before and having a difficult time finding the right place.

The best advice I can say is... take a break. Recharge. Think whether this is something you really like doing and feel you can do very well. Are there things you know you can do better? Are there things you enjoy more? Perhaps you should pursue those even if they seem not to make as much money. But if you want to succeed and deep down feel you are capable, then deal with the tough moments, take a break, go on a great invigorating jog, bicycle ride... whatever. Then get back to work plugging away and wait a little longer for that moment when you can jump at when it appears.

Best of luck and give it your all once again to ride that horse.

I'll keep this short, but I know how you feel, I've been there. Tried many ways to make money online at the same time and got burned out.

But I've seen the light, so to speak, and now am on my way to making some serious money by flipping domains.

Just find something that works for you and stick with it, and don't give up!

The phrase “Results May Vary.” definitely applies to this industry. Some people succeed almost effortlessly while other struggle in vain with nothing to show for it. There isn’t really any difference between those struggling and those succeeding. The ones who are struggling often want/need this just as badly if not more than those who are succeeding. The same methods are often employed in the same manner, but the results are different. These days its seems as though trying to “make it.” in this business is like trying to make it in professional sports or in Hollywood. To some people its a dream come true but to others its merely just a dream and will never be anything more.

Like others have said simply find something that works for you and keep at it. It might just be a case of you not pursuing the right opportunity, or using the right methods.

@feedtherightwolf:

We've all been where you feel you are right now, there is no shortcut in the Internet Marketing Industry. It's a lot of strenuous, consistent and well-executed effort.

There are many levels of work you need to do, and quite aggressively, to get your footing right in this market. First and foremost, don't let the "Gurus" influence you into thinking its easy pickings. That's absolute rubbish. These gurus are not all making anything close to the millions they are constantly advertising that they are, only some of them are and that's because they have worked consistently over the years to build their reputation as well as their client lists.

I would advise you to do the following and stick to it religiously:

1. Select a Niche Market for yourself, one that you feel you would enjoy working in. e.g. Health and Fitness, or SEO, or whatever.

2. You need to build yourself a list of prospects by throwing a few products (even if they aren't yours, you can just promote other peoples' products if you like) and optin pages. It is CRUCIAL that you start building a list.

And don't let anyone tell you that list marketing is easy, it isn't. It is quick if you are calculated and use the right strategies and tools to build your list, otherwise it is dreadedly slow.

Keep in touch with your prospects, even if your list has a total of 2 people on it. Just keep in touch with them, make sure you build a relationship with your prospects and as your list grows, you can begin slowly promoting offers, or whatever else you want to send to them.

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Internet Marketing is a tough business, but it is extremely lucrative if you do it right.

I can vouch for that. I've seen the days of $0.00 and days with those zeros at the other end of numbers too. It's taken over 8 years. So I say again, it's not easy, it takes time and relentless effort,

but you do eventually get to a comfortable spot

Hope that helps~

Cheers,
Ange

p.s. Keep Smiling

On the days where it seems like nothing is moving and im spinning my wheels,
I remember the principal of Kaizen--
incremental changes, over time have a great effect in the long run. (From Wikipedia)
Kaizen (Japanese for "improvement" or "change for the better") refers to philosophy or practices that focus upon continuous improvement of processes in manufacturing, engineering, supporting business processes, and management. It has been applied in healthcare, government, banking, and many other industries. When used in the business sense and applied to the workplace, kaizen refers to activities that continually improve all functions, and involves all employees from the CEO to the assembly line workers. It also applies to processes, such as purchasing and logistics, that cross organizational boundaries into the supply chain.[1] By improving standardized activities and processes, kaizen aims to eliminate waste.

If you have a passion for this stuff then go and work for a company, big or small. Get some more experience, work with some seriously good mentors and get stuck in. Once you've gone through that you'll be in a much better position to work on your own.

Head up, keep going!

Allow your set goals to be your guide in making money instead of your feelings. Everyone does have some unfavorable feelings at times. But your dreams should drive you. What is important is to keep on doing what will make you get the money you want. Optimize your IM business and get traffic that will convert to sales of whatever you are selling or promoting. Success is not built in a short space of time. Be patient and do what you need to do. When you are down, just count all your blessings and achievements in life and your feelings will start changing.