Where do you find good article marketers for less than $5 per article?

by BJ Min
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Hi,

I was wondering where do you find the best
article writers & submitters for less than $5 per article?

I currently pay $5 per article writing & submission
and was open to see if anyone here does it for less
or same type of price...

...thanks
BJ
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  • Profile picture of the author NinjaReports
    If you go to digitalpoint forums content creation forums, you'll find plenty of people that can go below $5/article. Cyberhubonline.com does it for only $3/article (they get most of their clients from digitalpoint) and believe it or not the quality is decent even at that price.
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    • Profile picture of the author timpears
      Well if this Cyberhubonline.com outfit is that good, their support is crap. I have tried to ask them a question on more than one occasion and not one reply. I never bought anything from them as I figured that if their response to a simple question was too much for them, filling an order for ten or twenty articles would be way too much for them to handle.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nathan Hangen
      Originally Posted by NinjaReports View Post

      If you go to digitalpoint forums content creation forums, you'll find plenty of people that can go below $5/article. Cyberhubonline.com does it for only $3/article (they get most of their clients from digitalpoint) and believe it or not the quality is decent even at that price.

      Are you kidding me? I gave them some of the easiest topics in the world and they were barely legible.
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      • Profile picture of the author my_addict_mind
        in this arena, to each his own i must say.

        what is insulting to one writer may not necessarily apply to another. in the open internet market, economics plays a big part. so telling people that writers should be paid this or that will not make any sense because all our circumstances are different, cost of living, rents, salaries, exchange rates, etc.

        and this is very normal even in the offline world. buy a car in the u.s., the cost is different here in asia. it is always market forces and economics.

        buy a mcdonalds hamburger and coke in new york and compare the cost in the philippines or hk. you will see the big discrepancy.

        the same applies to writers. and there is nothing we can do. someone's standards are always different from another.

        let the market forces play and recognize the opportunities where you can make big profits.
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  • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
    Cyberhub is good if you have weeks to wait and don't mind fixing the English. That was my experience, maybe others had better ones. And DP is a forum full of cheap people so you can check there for cheap writers. Probably won't find a whole lot to write $5 articles here unless they are short articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author lakerk
    5 dollars an article?

    Your click through rate will be terrible. Absolute rubbish is all you can purchase for five dollars.
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    • Profile picture of the author Hamida Harland
      Originally Posted by lakerk View Post

      5 dollars an article?

      Your click through rate will be terrible. Absolute rubbish is all you can purchase for five dollars.
      Not true, I had a fantastic writer I found at DP who wrote for $4 per 400 word article. $4 is worth alot more in some countries than it is in the US or UK.
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    • Profile picture of the author ScottByers
      Originally Posted by lakerk View Post

      5 dollars an article?

      Your click through rate will be terrible. Absolute rubbish is all you can purchase for five dollars.
      I'm not sure what you consider a "good" CTR, but most of the articles I've paid $3 for are getting 25-35% CTR on the bio boxes. That's good enough to suit my needs
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  • Profile picture of the author blokh
    I have tried $2, $3, $5, $10 and now I have a team of writers who charge me $15 ... I have my own control panel to do business with them, I throw out my articles and they grab em, and submit them as soon as they could for more business. Most writers are graduates with not only great vocab, but also great at doing online researches before they write and the content is great. Rich in keywords, properly organized, with headlines where required, they try and use multiple variations of each keyword like - keyword, search term, search phrase, to get ~keyword match of search engines.

    And the more they work with me, the better they become. Plus I don't have to work with different people at different times, they all know what I need, I know what they can deliver and it just works out great. WebWritersPro.com is the site I am planning to use to allow some members (clients) share this team with me. The only problem is that if I try to make profit, the articles become even more expensive for the client, so I think I could only accomodate a few people who value quality and keep the writers busy (for now) ...

    Anyhow, good luck with your search, but I would say, if you are happy with what you are getting for 5 bucks, stick to it ... don't compromise on quality ... unless you could really find good writers for less than that. I went there, but came back with a bad taste in my mouth ...
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  • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
    I just looked at dp out of curiosity and sure enough, someone is offering $2 articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
    I'm not saying there aren't people out there who would be prepared to sell articles at less than $5..

    But..

    Would you be confident paying that and expect to get quality content?.... I just would not be happy.

    I much prefer writers that are:

    Reassuringly expensive

    Although I do outsource some to a forum member here for around $10+.. he does a lot of work for me and I trust him.. my $200 a week to him makes him rich to his friends.. we have had a long business relationship and I can trust him.. I wouldn't be confident looking for other sources at this price..

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    • Profile picture of the author Ryan Dodson
      Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

      I'm not saying there aren't people out there who would be prepared to sell articles at less than $5..

      But..

      Would you be confident paying that and expect to get quality content?.... I just would not be happy.

      I much prefer writers that are:

      Reassuringly expensive

      Although I do outsource some to a forum member here for around $10+.. he does a lot of work for me and I trust him.. my $200 a week to him makes him rich to his friends.. we have had a long business relationship and I can trust him.. I wouldn't be confident looking for other sources at this price..

      Peace

      Jay
      I totally agree with you.

      High-end writers tend to attract high-end results.
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  • Profile picture of the author DavidO
    I have had nothing but rubbish at $5, even at $10 with very rare exceptions. Articles for that kind of money have to be either:
    1. Machine rewrites of published material. It's rubbish. It will take you as long to rewrite it as it would to write a whole new article.
    2. Non-native English writers. It's rubbish. You will have to rewrite it. I don't mean to insult the abilities of all non-native English speakers. There are many who can write very good articles... but at this level they're not charging $5.
    If anybody can show me consistenly good articles (not just a one-off) at $5 each I'll eat my words... as long as you give me the contact details!
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    • Originally Posted by DavidO View Post

      If anybody can show me consistenly good articles (not just a one-off) at $5 each I'll eat my words... as long as you give me the contact details!
      /me waves at David

      Kindly CLICK to contact.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vyliss
    Not really true DavidO... there are definitely non-native english speakers who can write even BETTER than the native ones. Yes I found a gem of one myself, but anyway, they are rare but if you're patient, you can find a few and don't tell anyone else about them when you do lol.

    Look on elance.com, guru.com, odesk.com, do a search and go through the list. Find ones from the phillipnes or thailand and then email them personally and see if you can get them to do < $5 an article, if you make a good offer, it's likely they'll go for it.
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    • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
      Originally Posted by Vyliss View Post

      Not really true DavidO... there are definitely non-native english speakers who can write even BETTER than the native ones. Yes I found a gem of one myself, but anyway, they are rare but if you're patient, you can find a few and don't tell anyone else about them when you do lol.

      Look on elance.com, guru.com, odesk.com, do a search and go through the list. Find ones from the phillipnes or thailand and then email them personally and see if you can get them to do < $5 an article, if you make a good offer, it's likely they'll go for it.
      VERY true.. english native speaking does NOT qualify that you can write coherent english..

      Outsourcing to no-native english speakers can definitely work.. but I'd be looking at the reassuringly expensive ones, they know the value of their work
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    • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
      Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

      The key is to find someone who can write reasonably well, consistently and is willing to have a long-term relationship with you. Over time, the quality will improve if it's not great already as they come to really understand your needs and goals.

      Yes, you can find decent content writers for $5 a pop and some for less. By the same token, you can pay a lot more and receive total crap too. Or vice-versa. You really cannot and should not assume that price has anything to do with the quality you'll receive.

      And for you cheap *******s out there - if you've got a pretty good content writer now, take care of him or her, would ya? If you're making money of their efforts, then give them something more. They'll stick around longer and strive to improve even more if you give them a reason to.
      Bless you, Big Mike.

      Good God, $5 articles. How depressing. I charge $25 an article, I get it regularly, and my clients love me. Here's the thing with super cheap articles: I know that you can find desperate people in third world countries who are willing to work for really pitiful amounts like $2, and some of them will do a decent job. However, you are going to have to work a lot harder and go through a lot of people to find someone who can provide decent articles. If you are willing to pay more like $15-$25, and you get someone with testimonials and good samples, I sincerely believe you have a much better chance of getting good results.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
        Originally Posted by Dana_W View Post

        Bless you, Big Mike.

        Good God, $5 articles. How depressing. I charge $25 an article, I get it regularly, and my clients love me. Here's the thing with super cheap articles: I know that you can find desperate people in third world countries who are willing to work for really pitiful amounts like $2, and some of them will do a decent job. However, you are going to have to work a lot harder and go through a lot of people to find someone who can provide decent articles. If you are willing to pay more like $15-$25, and you get someone with testimonials and good samples, I sincerely believe you have a much better chance of getting good results.
        Hey Danna...I am with you.

        At the end of the day ....How do you find GOOD Article Marketers for $5.00?

        YOU DONT!

        And those who sell their services for that $ or less HAVE TO BE putting out garbage or all software generated articles.

        I will not even consider "Looking" at an article project for less than $10.00 and that is really pushing the envelope. ...and would only be for some of my clients who give me consistent business.

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        • Profile picture of the author ShayB
          I am sure you can find people who would write reasonably well for under $5 an article.

          I am not one of those people, but I am sure they are out there.

          I have been willing to charge only $6 or $7 an article in order to get some references (which I have gotten - WOO HOOOO!), but that is as low as I would go.

          It is possible to find someone who will do a great job for little money, but it is not often the case, and it is usually under special circumstsnces (such as someone just starting out).

          It would be better to go with someone more expensive with good references, IMHO.

          And I agree with others here - if you find a writer you like, take good care of him or her!
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        • Originally Posted by The IM Reporter View Post

          Hey Danna...I am with you.

          At the end of the day ....How do you find GOOD Article Marketers for $5.00?

          YOU DONT!

          And those who sell their services for that $ or less HAVE TO BE putting out garbage or all software generated articles.
          Hi Sean.

          As a content writer who fulfills orders for $5 a pop, and lower for bulk requests, I hope you'd understand if I got offended by what you have posted.

          I have been in the content writing business for close to 5 years now, and this industry has been very good to me. I have worked with established personalities in the field. I have also worked with relative beginners. I have cherished every opportunity they have provided for me, and I gave my best for every project they entrusted to me. In 5 years, I have never received any complaints about my work. I am quite proud of my job and I haven't done anything to cheat anyone of their hard-earned money.

          To be labeled as someone who cannot provide quality work, and even to be subjected to a sweeping statement that implies that I produce software-generated deliverables is - I'm sorry to say - quite insulting.

          I understand that yours is an opinion.

          If, by some chance, your opinion is empirical, it is nonetheless a hasty generalization, fallacious in nature and hardly conclusive. You may have had bad experiences with $5 writers, but such doesn't mean that every $5 writer on the internet is just as incompetent.

          I am just like you, Sean. I'm working hard to give my family a good life. You may think that my rates are ridiculously cheap, but that's the price point that works for me and that's the price point that has given me good business.

          $5 an article may not make me as rich as you, but that doesn't give you the right to label my work, albeit indirectly, as "garbage" and "software-generated."

          We're all comrades in this forum... family even. I hope we can be careful with the words we share.

          Thanks for your time.


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          Originally Posted by The IM Reporter View Post


          At the end of the day ....How do you find GOOD Article Marketers for $5.00?

          YOU DONT!

          And those who sell their services for that $ or less HAVE TO BE putting out garbage or all software generated articles.
          Sean,

          Making such a blanket statement is just not fair on those who are writing great articles at these prices. They may have just started and are looking for building relationships. And then there are those for whom a dollar is more valuable in their respective countries than in US or Europe.
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          • Profile picture of the author timpears
            Originally Posted by davebo View Post

            Judging the product just based on price is so incredibly stupid. I sell an ecommerce product through my sites for $30 and the same EXACT product on ebay for $14. I do it because I make money on both and I have the resources to fufill the orders. I'd expect article writing teams to be no different.
            How can you possibly believe such a thing? First off, your product, unless I am misunderstanding you, is a digital download or possibly a disk that is mailed. So your inventory cost is minimal at best.

            People that will work for the rate they need to, to be able to generate articles for less than $5 is typically going to be someone that has little knowledge with the English language. Therefore, you will get very poor quality and sometimes absolutly unreadable. Seldom will you get a top notch article, but you might get lucky.

            You can't mass produce the article product. They have to be generated individually and specifically to order. They don't lend themselves to mass production. They are each hand made, so to speak.

            Sorry, but your argument just doesn't hold water.
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        Originally Posted by Dana_W View Post

        Bless you, Big Mike.

        Here's the thing with super cheap articles: I know that you can find desperate people in third world countries who are willing to work for really pitiful amounts like $2, and some of them will do a decent job.
        Hello Dana,

        I hope you would know that there is a Purchasing Power Parity factor when it comes to comparing a dollar with the currency of some so-called 'third world countries'. I agree $2 or even $5 is too low but it certainly is not a pitiful amount for some of them/us.
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  • Profile picture of the author Heman Patel
    Within your niche, just browse through forums and ask people if they are willing to write few articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author KevinDU
    $5 articles are garbage! You need to pay at least 3 cents/word for copy that converts into sales.
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    • Profile picture of the author anonymous123567
      "5 dollars an article?

      Your click through rate will be terrible. Absolute rubbish is all you can purchase for five dollars."





      Yeah must say I've been really happy with the services offered by my current writer, he's a great guy and offers fantastic content, i've got a 20% to 25% click through at $5 a piece.

      Hey I can see however that the guys offering the $25 per article content could provide a better result, more time spent and more experience is priceless, I wouldn't count the cheaper guys out though!

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    • Profile picture of the author ScottByers
      Originally Posted by KevinDU View Post

      $5 articles are garbage! You need to pay at least 3 cents/word for copy that converts into sales.
      I must be the exception, because the articles I'm paying 1 cent/word for are converting
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    • Profile picture of the author TheAtHomeCouple
      Originally Posted by KevinDU View Post

      $5 articles are garbage! You need to pay at least 3 cents/word for copy that converts into sales.
      Not true at all.

      My guy is $6 per article.. and I don't even need to check keyword density, copyscape, none of that.. and I'm getting crazy conversions and crazy clicks...

      It's all the luck of the draw..
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  • Profile picture of the author SistersTalk
    A $5 article marketer? Are you kidding? Any self-respecting article writer would never low ball themselves like that!

    Bloggers are charging $25 - $50 per post. Lower prices are meant for non-SEO-purpose blog postings. I can't imagine someone writing for less than $25 per article.
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  • Profile picture of the author Siti Neimann
    Hi BJ,

    I use need-an-article.com. They will write quality articles for $5.52 and have them completed within 2 - 3 days! Awesome turn around time! I've been impressed and happy with their service.
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    • Profile picture of the author MaskedMarketer
      Originally Posted by Dana_W View Post

      I know that you can find desperate people in third world countries who are willing to work for really pitiful amounts like $2
      There is nothing pitiful about making a living.

      Originally Posted by kumar View Post

      I hope you would know that there is a Purchasing Power Parity factor when it comes to comparing a dollar with the currency of some so-called 'third world countries'. I agree $2 or even $5 is too low but it certainly is not a pitiful amount for some of them/us.
      Originally Posted by kumar View Post

      Making such a blanket statement is just not fair on those who are writing great articles at these prices. They may have just started and are looking for building relationships. And then there are those for whom a dollar is more valuable in their respective countries than in US or Europe.
      Its said that by 2010 India will become the number one English speaking country.
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Ayres
    As usual as soon as one of these discussions starts you get all the idiots doing the blanket assumptions that anything less than X must be rubbish.
    I have an excellent Writer from USA who writes me brilliant 400 word articles for $4 each and they are all 100% unique, no errors and very interesting.

    I have also just started using another person that charges $2 an article and again they are absolutely fine for the job.

    I wish people wouldn't do all this unless you are paying $100 for an article you wont make money.
    I am making some very nice money with the articles that are being written for me and i but approx 200-300 articles a month and i don't pay anymore than $4 each.

    Please don't all assume that cheap articles MUST BE rubbish because this is not necessarily so
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    • Profile picture of the author Jenni Mac
      It is very possible to find writers who will work for $5 and I see nothing wrong in paying a writer that fee. I currently have a writer who is superb and delivers quality work with a CTR I'm happy with.

      I mean it's all well and good being able to afford to pay a writer $15 - $20 per article, but when you're just starting out and you need to outsource to continue growing your business and moving forward, it's not always possible to outsource to a writer charging those fees. Hats off to those further along in their business, but rather than over extend myself financially, I'll stick to my $5 guy for now!

      Try www.odesk.com that's where I found mine!
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris_King
    I've heard good stuff about articlez.com (no aff) but have not used them myself. I've been using need-an-article.com (no aff) and its a good service, but they don't do article submissions, they just write them.
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    • Profile picture of the author my_addict_mind
      generalizing based on what you pay the writer does not make any sense.

      before i hired a filipino writer for $2 per 500 word article and she produced good/excellent copy.

      and i once hired a uk guy for $15 per article and i got disastrous results, lots of grammatical errors, no coherence between sentences/paragraphs, misspellings, etc.

      just because one is a native english speaker automatically makes one a better writer than the non-native speaker. go to odesk.com. you will find there many asian providers who excel in english-related exams much better than american/british providers.

      internet marketing is a business. the less you spend, the more you improve your bottomline. if you insist on taking a hard stance based on your preconceived caste-like beliefs that whites are always better writers, the more money you are letting down the drain.
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      • Profile picture of the author Scott Million
        Originally Posted by my_addict_mind View Post

        generalizing based on what you pay the writer does not make any sense.

        before i hired a filipino writer for $2 per 500 word article and she produced good/excellent copy.

        and i once hired a uk guy for $15 per article and i got disastrous results, lots of grammatical errors, no coherence between sentences/paragraphs, misspellings, etc.

        just because one is a native english speaker automatically makes one a better writer than the non-native speaker. go to odesk.com. you will find there many asian providers who excel in english-related exams much better than american/british providers.

        internet marketing is a business. the less you spend, the more you improve your bottomline. if you insist on taking a hard stance based on your preconceived caste-like beliefs that whites are always better writers, the more money you are letting down the drain.
        Agree 100%...High quality article writers might be easier to find at higher price points, but that does not mean you can't get the same quality paying $2 - $4 / article in addition to peace of mind, trust etc.

        I have American writers who write 400 word product review pages and capture a 250x250 product image for $4.25. This also includes them finding 3 testimonials from sites outside of the merchant domain.

        No, I'm not sharing my source...sorry, info-article writers are a dime a dozen. Just keep testing new writers until you get the lowest price for the highest quality content.

        That's just smart business...and I do know a few article writers who have a great business sense. They manage to market their services for a premium and outsource the writing of the articles. They take a quick peak before sending the work over and they're able to do 10x more business without writing anything...

        "But I love to write" - great, then outsource the writing of your clients and write for yourself. Obviously others are making money off you...why shouldn't you be bringing in cheese?
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  • Profile picture of the author Gunter Eibl
    Many people don't have the time to test through dozens of writers just to find one good one. On the other hand it makes no sense to write the articles yourself, unless you're promoting yourself and your own products. Writing yourself is a waste of your time. As an Internet Marketer you should spend time on promoting your stuff and not on writing articles or setting sites up etc.

    So once you've reached a certain level, the next step is outsourcing. Either take the time to find some writers yourself or outsource to someone who has done the testing and has a team of good writers already that you can use without having to bother with the details. It's just a question how valuable your time is.

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  • Profile picture of the author mick535
    I have hired several writers from GetAFreelancer.com who varied in skill. Eventually I found one who is an excellent writer with great English and Internet Marketing know how.

    He has a team of writers and I can normally get 100% re-writes done at $50 for 25 articles and new articles at $4 per.
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    • Profile picture of the author adamv
      Originally Posted by Premium Web Content View Post

      Hi Sean.

      As a content writer who fulfills orders for $5 a pop, and lower for bulk requests, I hope you'd understand if I got offended by what you have posted.

      I have been in the content writing business for close to 5 years now, and this industry has been very good to me. I have worked with established personalities in the field. I have also worked with relative beginners. I have cherished every opportunity they have provided for me, and I gave my best for every project they entrusted to me. In 5 years, I have never received any complaints about my work. I am quite proud of my job and I haven't done anything to cheat anyone of their hard-earned money.

      To be labeled as someone who cannot provide quality work, and even to be subjected to a sweeping statement that implies that I produce software-generated deliverables is - I'm sorry to say - quite insulting.

      I understand that yours is an opinion.

      If, by some chance, your opinion is empirical, it is nonetheless a hasty generalization, fallacious in nature and hardly conclusive. You may have had bad experiences with $5 writers, but such doesn't mean that every $5 writer on the internet is just as incompetent.

      I am just like you, Sean. I'm working hard to give my family a good life. You may think that my rates are ridiculously cheap, but that's the price point that works for me and that's the price point that has given me good business.

      $5 an article may not make me as rich as you, but that doesn't give you the right to label my work, albeit indirectly, as "garbage" and "software-generated."

      We're all comrades in this forum... family even. I hope we can be careful with the words we share.

      Thanks for your time.


      - Johnny
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  • Profile picture of the author Sagar Mehta
    BIG Mike hit the nail hard: You have to be ready for everything. Crappy writers are out there - for all kinds of prices from 'sky high' to 'low below the ground' prices.

    I've written for $5. I've written for $10. I've written for $15.

    I was lucky to START with $15 - the guy who hired me loved me so much before I even wrote for him

    With writers, as with everything else, one can't make blanket statements. I hadn't heard what a "spinner" was unless I joined this forum. It was one year after I started out ghostwriting online. That was when I was writing for $5-$10. When I DID come to know of spinners, I kept as far from them as one can be.

    All writers have their standards some charge a premium price, some don't. And the age old economics of demand and supply still work. If you can get quality articles for $5 and you know you're paying a handsome amount to the writer in HIS currency, it makes business sense to stick with it.

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  • Profile picture of the author Johnathan
    Having been on the other side of the coin, it surprises me that some people actually tried to get articles written for a dollar per article. And, in some of the cases the length of the article requested is so ridiculously long, that to do a good job, you would literally be working for one to two dollars an hour. And, there is not really any way to speed that up, partially because in some cases they also want you to do all the research. I've also come across people that not only want you to do research, write a number of articles, literally for peanuts, but they also want you to do all the work in terms of promoting their site is well.

    From what I've seen, and people I've spoken with, in most cases if you try to squeeze too hard, you get crap. There's nothing wrong with making a buck, but if you're being so utterly cheap to try and squeeze every last penny out of someone, then chances are if that writer does do work for you, and they are good, they may not be writing for you too long.

    So, I think it is important to pay your writers fairly, especially if they are worth it.
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    • Profile picture of the author my_addict_mind
      i agree with johnathan in his post. but in the face of the global internet economy, being fair is very relative. $5 is very fair in the philippines where the minimum daily rate is less than $10 (i guess) while $15-20 is the norm in the U.S.A or maybe even more.

      there are a lot of market forces and factors that influence how much you pay your writers. i for one is based in the philippines and i can easily access good/excellent university-level writers at rates most of you won't even think possible. most of these students, they are just too happy to get some part-time work to supplement their allowances aside from having the opportunity to launch their online writing careers.

      in most cases, when they graduate, they become less interested in what i am offering especially when they obtain full-time jobs. but there is an endless supply of writers here and i can easily get one if i need to. even if out of 10 recruits, only 1 stands out, i will still profit from it because of the cheap price and that is how i conduct my business.

      it may be a waste of my time to find good writers out there. but i find that i am getting roi 100 times the effort and time invested in finding the gems out there. why? because i charge my clients $$$ at US level pay rates and i pay in peso. i guess that is how you call labor arbitrage. but i don't mind. it is always business. many multinational companies are doing it (call centers, bpos, etc.) so i am just capitalizing on this trend.


      Originally Posted by Johnathan View Post

      Having been on the other side of the coin, it surprises me that some people actually tried to get articles written for a dollar per article. And, in some of the cases the length of the article requested is so ridiculously long, that to do a good job, you would literally be working for one to two dollars an hour. And, there is not really any way to speed that up, partially because in some cases they also want you to do all the research. I've also come across people that not only want you to do research, write a number of articles, literally for peanuts, but they also want you to do all the work in terms of promoting their site is well.

      From what I've seen, and people I've spoken with, in most cases if you try to squeeze too hard, you get crap. There's nothing wrong with making a buck, but if you're being so utterly cheap to try and squeeze every last penny out of someone, then chances are if that writer does do work for you, and they are good, they may not be writing for you too long.

      So, I think it is important to pay your writers fairly, especially if they are worth it.
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  • Profile picture of the author tess47
    I believe you get what you pay for. I charge $10 per article for 400 words or less, and I have many clients that I write for on an ongoing basis. If I am going to write good quality articles that are optimized for keywords, and do the research in most cases, I am not going to do it for $5!

    My time is more valuable than that. If you can find good writers for that amount, you better make sure you keep them!

    In fact, $10 is really too low for the work I do, but I think once I become more established I will raise my rates to what the norm is - around $15 per article. It's well worth it for good content.

    Just my opinion - good luck
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
      The thought that the price you pay for an article correlates directly with the conversion rate of that article borders on the lines of insanity.

      Writers crack me up, seriously. They jump up and down shouting that they are getting $30 an article, great! Good for you! However, there are people out there that are charging between $3 and $5 an article and produce quality work.

      I've paid $20 for an article and I've paid $2. I've yet to see a really clear distinction between the two, other than the fact that one of the $20 articles that I paid for was way over the readers in my niches head.

      If someone wants to charge $5 for an article, let them. Hell, if they can write two an hour or three an hour, they are making ten to fifteen bucks an hour. That is a hell of a lot better than many people do in the "real world".

      People should really stop getting so offended because someone doesn't want to shell out the $100 for 400 words that some people think they are worth.

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      • Profile picture of the author Dean Martin
        Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

        I've paid $20 for an article and I've paid $2. I've yet to see a really clear distinction between the two, other than the fact that one of the $20 articles that I paid for was way over the readers in my niches head.

        -cut-

        People should really stop getting so offended because someone doesn't want to shell out the $100 for 400 words that some people think they are worth.

        Jeremy
        a bit harsh Jeremy - don't you think.

        Personally, I don't understand why anyone buys $2, $3 or $5 articles - I can set up an autoblog to pull better content in for free.

        The beauty of the free market system is that you get what you pay for - people buying $1 per hundred articles will soon find that nobody reads them and they don't convert so they soon look around for something better.

        Would I pay $100 for 400 words? Absolutely - if those 400 words can make me $100 a month I've made that back in 4 months and the rest is profit...

        Writers - provide more value than what you charge and you'll always have customers.
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  • Profile picture of the author timarmite
    It all depends where your writer is located. For example I am a DP user and have recently joined this forum. I am forced to charge $1 per 100 words because...Paypal is not available in my country.
    I charge this amount so that people can open an account with Moneybookers or use Western Union.
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  • Profile picture of the author jhongren
    I am wondering beside just charging a price for each article, what are the ways an article writer can build up their backends?

    What about charging a package or providing other complementary service?

    Would love to hear from article writers out there.

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  • Profile picture of the author Christie Love
    Please stop insulting writers like this. You want people to pay high prices for your products, right? So, why would you want to belittle someone by paying them scraps that will barely feed one person let alone a family. That's just not right

    When I first started writing, I put out a $5 WSO for 50 articles. Even though I had a bit of help, it nearly killed me to make pennies. My hands were bruised, swollen, and cramped. I vowed to never do that again.

    I seriously feel bad for writers who charge so little.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jenni Mac
      I really don't see anything wrong in paying a writer $5 to write an article, if that is the rate they will accept.

      I myself am a published writer (offline) with many publications to my name, so I do know more than some, the worth of a writer and the hells of a writer.

      However, for people to just think there should be a blanket charge that EVERY writer should be paid is just wrong.
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Ayres
      Originally Posted by Christie Love View Post

      Please stop insulting writers like this. You want people to pay high prices for your products, right? So, why would you want to belittle someone by paying them scraps that will barely feed one person let alone a family. That's just not right

      When I first started writing, I put out a $5 WSO for 50 articles. Even though I had a bit of help, it nearly killed me to make pennies. My hands were bruised, swollen, and cramped. I vowed to never do that again.

      I seriously feel bad for writers who charge so little.
      Maybe you should stop telling people what they can and cant earn.
      If people are happy getting $2 per article who are you to tell people they cant, also to some people this is a lot of money so why should you tell them they cant earn a living if they want to.
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  • Profile picture of the author tptrillion
    Hi...

    you go get a freelance article writer to help you in writing your articles. And don't forget it has to be a seasoned writer who will be able to write a unique article for you. You could outsource for a competent article writer on gofreelance And to submit your articles, you could visit articlesubmitter. You could google both. I'm sure they will help

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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    Why does everyone and their dog think they should dictate what a writer is paid.

    I have spent time digging into the niche and have come out with lots of different reason why people chose to pay what they do. There are also lots of reasons why people charge what they do.

    The bottom line is let the writer chose their own business model. If someone wants to write for $1 let them, it is their business, they have their own business model. If someone wants to write for $1,000 an article (yes there are websites charging that rate for a 400 word article) let them because that is their model.

    As I said in my course, it is like saying all restaurants should be 5 star, there is nothing wrong with a fast food restuarant because it meets the needs of their target market.

    John in answer to your question there are lots of ways a writer can earn more from the backend.
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    • Profile picture of the author MaskedMarketer
      Originally Posted by Christie Love View Post

      Please stop insulting writers like this. You want people to pay high prices for your products, right? So, why would you want to belittle someone by paying them scraps that will barely feed one person let alone a family. That's just not right

      When I first started writing, I put out a $5 WSO for 50 articles. Even though I had a bit of help, it nearly killed me to make pennies. My hands were bruised, swollen, and cramped. I vowed to never do that again.

      I seriously feel bad for writers who charge so little.
      Do you understand what an exchange rate is?

      Why not take that into consideration?

      Content writers are a dime a dozen and can easily be replaced.

      Plenty of hungry writers out there that would appreciate steady work.

      Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

      Why does everyone and their dog think they should dictate what a writer is paid.
      Maybe because there is nothing special about content writing and they can easily be replaced by cheaper, quality, writers?

      Before getting into any business model, one should ask themselves "Can someone overseas do it cheaper? "

      If the answer is yes, you may want to rethink your business model and strategy!
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      • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
        Originally Posted by MaskedMarketer View Post

        Do you understand what an exchange rate is?

        Why not take that into consideration?

        Content writers are a dime a dozen and can easily be replaced.

        Plenty of hungry writers out there that would appreciate steady work.



        Maybe because there is nothing special about content writing and they can easily be replaced by cheaper, quality, writers?

        Before getting into any business model, one should ask themselves "Can someone overseas do it cheaper? "

        If the answer is yes, you may want to rethink your business model and strategy!
        Did you read what I wrote or did you just decide to rant on over the one sentence?

        I said let people choose their own business model.

        Maybe we should just price fix writers because they are not special or anything thing else.

        Why not just make people do their offline/online for $1 an hour because there are plenty of people who could do what they do.

        Why not just work online for $1 an hour because nobody is special and they can all be replaced by cheaper workers in a third world country.

        Why just pick on writers why not demand everything to be done cheap, and not just the outsourcing, but whatever people sell. Stop people trying to make a lot of money online, because they could also be replaced by cheap workers.
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        • Profile picture of the author MaskedMarketer
          Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

          Did you read what I wrote or did you just decide to rant on over the one sentence?

          I said let people choose their own business model.
          Yup, you made a nice looking post.

          And I never told anyone what business model to choose. Content writing can be a good model, but for the average person to succeed it can be harder as competition is willing to do it for cheaper. It can be harder because competition is willing to do it cheaper.

          That doesn't make sense to you?

          Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

          Why not just work online for $1 an hour because nobody is special and they can all be replaced by cheaper workers in a third world country.
          So you do get it. That's the point. Competition is willing to work for cheaper and content writers are replacable. The average content writer online will eventually be effected by cheaper,oversea workers. If they aren't effected already.

          Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

          Why just pick on writers why not demand everything to be done cheap, and not just the outsourcing, but whatever people sell. Stop people trying to make a lot of money online, because they could also be replaced by cheap workers.
          You actually think i'm "picking on" writers?

          This is a thread about writers, why would I talk about anything else?

          The point is... if someone overseas can do it cheaper than me, imo that's not the best model to get into for long term.
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          • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
            These post really crack me up! How many times is there going to be a thread about prices for articles?

            Bottom line is what ever works for you, that is what you do!

            If your comfortable paying $100.00 an article and that works for you then great.

            If you pay $2.00 for an article and that works for you then thats great to!

            There is no set fee for any service. Even off line, you have businesses competing that will lower or raise their prices at certain times. This is no different, it's just business!

            I will say though, I have found some article writers that write great articles for $2.00, and the click through rates have been over 30%. I paid $10.00 for an article once and it SUCKED!

            These arguments are nothing more than people's opinions and that is never going to change no matter how many times it goes back and forth.

            Some say $2.00 are going to be garbage, others disagree. But so what. It all boils down to what works for YOU and what puts money in YOUR pocket. It doesn't matter how you get there, it's the results that matter.

            Here's an idea that works really well (for me anyway). Get a writer to write articles for cheap prices, but offer them bonus incentives on how their articles do. If it makes you money then you give them a little bonus. You will be suprised at the dedication people will give you if they know they may get a little more if their article produces even though they price they wrote them for is way cheaper than others.

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  • Profile picture of the author Debbie Allen
    When I first began writing for others I charged very low rates. That was done intentionally in order to establish my name as a writer. But writing does take time and effort.

    Over time I gradually increased my rates because I found that I was spending many hours a day researching and writing and there was little time left for other business ventures. But as time went on I was also learning even more about writing and researching which meant that I was producing higher quality products (articles, ebooks, autoresponder series, etc.).

    My writing is a major part of my online business and I want to treat it as a business. My rates are competitive and I strive to provide products that are pleasing to my clients. I will go out of my way to create a personalized product for a client.

    I did the same thing before I established myself as a writer - because I was not known I felt I had to offer low rates to get testimonials and an initial client or two.

    There are bargain shoppers everywhere. I myself look for low rates on numerous services and products. However, I also know that there are some things that are worth spending more on. Doing business with a trusted and reliable source provides a peace of mind and sense that you will be taken care of properly and your needs will be attended to. If you can find that at a low rate then by all means, it should be a wise investment of your money.

    We each have to decide on a business model - including whether it will include being the bargain shopper's dream stop or a place that provides quality work for competitive rates. The Wal-Marts in my location do a booming business but that does not seem to take away from many of the stores that charge much higher prices for the same or similar items. There seems to be room for all types of businesses and shoppers.
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  • Profile picture of the author michaelpotter
    I have tried 1 Spinner and found it useless, i basically had to re write and check the grammer.

    I have used a fellow warrior and found her reliable and fast with great articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author emigre
    If you are a new customer of cyberhub, you will probably get acceptable articles the first time round, after that, it's all crap, even with their rewrites.
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  • Profile picture of the author amber1210
    Honestly, getafreelancer.com is a good place to go to find article writers. Though some of the writers are really flakey. There are many great writers there. And, a lot of the people posting projects there are wanting to pay the writers only 1.25 or so per 500 word article. The providers don't pay much, and they get quality articles written. Though, it would be nice to pay the article writers a little more if they prove that they are reliable and produce quality work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
    I think it is up to the individual person, if they can make $50 an article, and are happy with it, then good for them. If they make $2 and article and the client and the writer are happy with the work done and payment received, then who is anyone else to say it is right or wrong. As long as both parties in the writing contract are happy with the pay received and work completed who else really needs to care?

    Just my 2 cents.
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