Is Traffic Generation Difficult or are People Just Lazy?

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It seems that no matter where I hangout online a few people (not all) are searching for "magical" methods to get traffic to their websites or blogs. It really amazes me how many people are searching for ways to drive traffic, and yet there are tons of viable methods right in front of them!

I have contributed traffic generation ideas to this forum, because I feel that people need to be reminded of the basics. However, eventually it gets to the point where people just need to stick with known methods to generate traffic, and learn how to implement these methods correctly.

Obviously I am not talking about everyone on this forum, in fact I know there are a ton of people here that work harder and smarter than I do, and I respect that and aim to work more efficiently each and every day.

However: Are some people who can't get any traffic just lazy?:confused:


I know for a fact that I can take a brand new website or blog and have it generating at least 1,500 visitors per month in the first 30 days. Now, I know that is not the high volume traffic numbers that a lot of internet marketers talk about, but if you have a sound business model in place, and focus on actually networking with other marketers then you can accelerate your traffic, list-building (and thus income) rather quickly.

Driving 1,500 visitors per month to a squeeze page for 2 months will get you 3,000 visitors. With a squeeze page that converts at 40%, you can then have 1,200 subscribers in just 2 months, and that does not even include ad swapping or recruiting JV partners!

I am not going to go into any in-depth traffic generation strategies here, because I know that if you use the search feature you will find a ton of great content with regards to traffic generation. However, here is a rough outline of particular methods you may want to research:

Article marketing:
(Post to your blog, article directories, document sharing sites, etc.)

Content syndication:
(Basically the same as article marketing, but try to network with marketers to get your content featured on high traffic blogs.)

Forum marketing:
(You can get a ton of traffic from niche forums.)

Classified ads:
(Put a picture in your ad, and have a strong call to action.)

Social Networks:
(Twitter and Facebook can be great traffic sources, but don't spam your "friends" or "followers" with affiliate offers please.)

None of these methods are groundbreaking, but they do work, and I am using them on a daily basis to drive traffic to many of my niche websites.

So next time you are looking for ways to drive more traffic, focus on the basics, analyze your own analytics, and see where you can tweak your current campaigns to increase traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author phoenixx9000
    Not that its difficult - rather that it is just plain BORING.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Lazy.....

    I must have posted traffic generation methods here hundreds of times.

    The only reasons anyone should have trouble getting traffic are:

    1 - They didn't research their market properly and are focusing on the wrong keyword/phrases

    2 - They're not doing the things that get links and traffic.

    Many people come here and complain that they're not getting traffic and when you ask them what they've done - it's never enough to actually expect any traffic.

    Some complete newbies think getting a dozen links should be enough and don't realise that with a few accounts at the right places (article directories, social bookmarking sites etc.) anyone can get thousands of links easily.

    I've put out challenges here before asking for people who can't get traffic and challenge me to increase their traffic - and I've never been unable to do it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
      People will come to me and think one article to EZA and a bookmark posted on Digg should have them rolling in dough.

      Others think 2000 visitors a month will let them retire young .

      When I show them what I do to get traffic .. they think I am lying but ... if the traffic is not there .. neither is the money .

      And yes .. the gentleman I have quoted has given me several great ideas for traffic in his various post



      Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

      Lazy.....

      I must have posted traffic generation methods here hundreds of times.

      The only reasons anyone should have trouble getting traffic are:

      1 - They didn't research their market properly and are focusing on the wrong keyword/phrases

      2 - They're not doing the things that get links and traffic.

      Many people come here and complain that they're not getting traffic and when you ask them what they've done - it's never enough to actually expect any traffic.

      Some complete newbies think getting a dozen links should be enough and don't realise that with a few accounts at the right places (article directories, social bookmarking sites etc.) anyone can get thousands of links easily.

      I've put out challenges here before asking for people who can't get traffic and challenge me to increase their traffic - and I've never been unable to do it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Robert Puddy
      Actually I think that most people are really good at driving traffic, the problem is they have no idea how to convert that traffic once it reaches its destination.

      That results in none or little sales

      then then wrongly presume they need to drive more traffic...

      Its a downward spiralling scenario from there
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  • Profile picture of the author khanhdom
    most people want to make money and a lot of money online, but most will not want to put in the effort to do so
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by khanhdom View Post

      most people want to make money and a lot of money online, but most will not want to put in the effort to do so
      Yes, with everyone and their brother trying to make money online, there is an even greater need, nowadays, to set yourself apart and differentiate yourself from the crowd....

      Plus, unfortunately, people have fallen into this mentality of instant gratification...

      "If I write one article, and nothing happens, I just quite and move on to the next course or product..."
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      • Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

        Lazy.....

        I must have posted traffic generation methods here hundreds of times.

        The only reasons anyone should have trouble getting traffic are:

        1 - They didn't research their market properly and are focusing on the wrong keyword/phrases

        2 - They're not doing the things that get links and traffic.

        Many people come here and complain that they're not getting traffic and when you ask them what they've done - it's never enough to actually expect any traffic.

        Some complete newbies think getting a dozen links should be enough and don't realise that with a few accounts at the right places (article directories, social bookmarking sites etc.) anyone can get thousands of links easily.

        I've put out challenges here before asking for people who can't get traffic and challenge me to increase their traffic - and I've never been unable to do it.
        Lazy is definitely the way to describe those people. I would even go a step further and say they are IDEALISTIC. They dream too much about what the ideal traffic would be and fail to implement the RIGHT method for their particular site/niche. Most IMers do not understand that not all marketing methods work exactly the same for every business or niche. What works for some does not necessarily work for all.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Excellent advice.

    Focusing on the basics creates successful results. Taking shortcuts creates failures.

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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
    Comprehension problems.


    While there are quite a lot of lazy people, I also believe that a bigger problem now is that people do not understand what they are reading.
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  • Profile picture of the author NicoleBeckett
    Is traffic generation difficult? Not if you're willing to work at it and understand that it's not an overnight thing. Maybe tedious is a better word.

    Are people lazy? Absolutely, especially when it comes to IM. There are way too many people who think they can sit back and become a millionaire by next Tuesday.
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  • Profile picture of the author TrueLifeWealth
    I think for those who are not internet savvy or who are new to online marketing it can seem like a brick wall. Many are simply looking for a power solution in which they either get a link on a high traffic site or search engine and watch their hit counter shoot up over night.

    However, achieving this is not very likely unless your product or website is something of an overnight sensation type deal.
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  • Profile picture of the author H.Miller
    I think most people are just lazy. They want a way to drive traffic and make money that doesn't require them to do any work. So they search all around looking for that "magic" solution and in the process waste time and money. Then they turn around and say this whole make money online thing doesn't work but it reality it was them that didn't work. They didn't do anything so they got nothing in return.
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  • Profile picture of the author mlord10
    This is exactly what I figured. So many people get caught up in generating thousands of visitors each day to their websites that they see 50-100 per day as a failure. You can make a pretty good living off of that amount of traffic if it is laser targeted, and you know what to do with it.

    Do I have automated traffic sources? Yes I do. However, I also spend part of each and every day generating traffic to my business. I think the problem is that many people have unrealistic expectations when it comes to traffic numbers.

    Most of the time heaps of traffic just does not come overnight. Get featured on a high traffic blog or in a high traffic newsletter and it certainly can, but this usually does not happen for the majority of marketers (at least not often).
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  • Profile picture of the author abednego
    I think its a combination of lazyness... and not thinking outside of the box. I don't think people are creative enough. Or if they are, they don't value their own opinion as much as they should - and would rather trust a self-claimed guru over the internet...

    Visitors are abundant on the internet; you just have to write or create something of high quality and unique content to pull them in. From my own personal experience, if you're able to have an idea, story, or process... that hasn't been re-hashed from the same old PLR content, then it would almost be impossible to STOP the traffic!
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  • Profile picture of the author freemen14
    It's interesting how this thread is filled with people complaining about the posts of newbies yet when you go to the wso section many of them are making a killing marketing to them specifically. just saying.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
      Originally Posted by freemen14 View Post

      It's interesting how this thread is filled with people complaining about the posts of newbies yet when you go to the wso section many of them are making a killing marketing to them specifically. just saying.
      I have a clear conscience but I am interested in who you're talking about - I'm gonna go check everyone's signature links
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    LOL... People are NOT Lazy... They are CHEAP...

    When you are not willing to spend money to make money, getting traffic is difficult and time consuming...

    However, once you learn that you can pay for services that help you to get the traffic and you are willing to do so, then getting traffic is as easy as getting out of bed in the morning...

    Almost without fail, those who make the most money online buy traffic, or pay for services that help them to acquire traffic...

    Those who sit on their wallets starve... They are like the guy who starved to death, because you hid his welfare check under his work boots... He would not take the action that would have enabled him to survive and thrive...
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    • Profile picture of the author theemperor
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      LOL... People are NOT Lazy... They are CHEAP...

      When you are not willing to spend money to make money, getting traffic is difficult and time consuming...

      However, once you learn that you can pay for services that help you to get the traffic and you are willing to do so, then getting traffic is as easy as getting out of bed in the morning...

      Almost without fail, those who make the most money online buy traffic, or pay for services that help them to acquire traffic...

      Those who sit on their wallets starve... They are like the guy who starved to death, because you hid his welfare check under his work boots... He would not take the action that would have enabled him to survive and thrive...
      Touche!

      I think it is good to sit in the trenches and learn how to create traffic yourself. But why do that forever - outsourcing is critical at some point - be it getting people to write you articles and submit them, or paying for a solo-spot on a mailing list, or PPC. (Although PPC seems to require all the manual effort AND you have to pay - but it is pretty effective when you get it working )

      However as a counter to this - if you are a beginner it is 'safer' to create your own traffic from free sources rather than pay, because all you risk is failure, and even if you fail you learn and can carry on. But burning up your savings or getting into debt is a risk for beginners who pay for traffic.

      I started out by paying for traffic and converting $10 into $200. Nice! But I didn't understand why it worked, and was too scared to invest more money as it seemed like a bet that paid off rather than a business plan.

      So learn the ropes in the beginning, and pay someone else to ring the bells later on!
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  • Profile picture of the author mbacchi
    In my opinion people are lazy. They go to these types of seminars where people talk that make money is easy, how they make thousands of dollars with a push button strategy but they do not mention the hardwork behind all of it. Internet Marketing requires a lot of dedication, hardwork, psycology, etc...
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  • Profile picture of the author mlord10
    I can see cheapness as a factor, but I think laziness is that real issue. I didn't have ANY money when I started marketing online. I wrote my own articles (still do for the most part), wrote my own classified ads, and did a lot of other things myself.

    I still don't love the idea of paying for traffic, but I have done it. However, having a lot of articles ranking in the search engines is a nice way to pull in some free traffic day after day, and this is actually a big part of my traffic generation strategy.

    I think one of the main reasons people can't get traffic is because they write a couple of ads, submit an article or two, and expect to get 1,000 visitors instantly. It typically does not happen (Unless you syndicate your content effectively.)
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  • Profile picture of the author BigDaddys101
    @mlord10

    I read a lot of forums and posts everyday, and I gotta admit this is a good post. I run into people everyday looking for a NEW and EASIER way to do something they simply forget what it really takes.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Atkins
    Well, it's not that easy 'free' traffic. It requires some work, and
    some patience, but it's not that difficult. Most people are just lazy...
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    • Profile picture of the author Shaunman
      Yes building traffic isn't a difficult process, you just do the basics.

      But people don't succeed because of lazyness, they want it now and don't want to take the slow and steady road, or they think that there is some "secret" out there that all successful people know.

      Plus I don't know about you, but I've had a lot of failures too. It's easier to look for some "secret Guru system" then it is to take a step back and figure out what exactly you have done wrong, what did you do right, and how can you do more of the right thing.
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      • Profile picture of the author mlord10
        Originally Posted by Shaunman View Post

        Yes building traffic isn't a difficult process, you just do the basics.

        But people don't succeed because of lazyness, they want it now and don't want to take the slow and steady road, or they think that there is some "secret" out there that all successful people know.

        Plus I don't know about you, but I've had a lot of failures too. It's easier to look for some "secret Guru system" then it is to take a step back and figure out what exactly you have done wrong, what did you do right, and how can you do more of the right thing.
        This is very true, and believe me I have had my share of failures! As you say, the key really is to learn from them.

        I actually went through my analytics account in detail to analyze which traffic strategies were performing well, and which ones were not. I have now slightly revamped my traffic strategy, which I feel will be more effective in driving more targeted traffic to my website on a daily basis.

        As you say, a lot of people do just buy the latest course on traffic generation, and think they will find some magic button that leads to thousands of visitors on a daily basis.

        In reality, you need to read what trustworthy, experienced warriors are teaching about traffic, implement a few strategies, and see which ones work best for you. Different people will have different results, and some people will prefer certain traffic methods to others.

        The real key is to find a time tested method to drive traffic, tweak it to where it performs at maximum efficiency, and execute it!

        traffic generation is a lot like golf, you can get really good at it but there is always room for improvement.
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  • Profile picture of the author NikkiS
    As a total newbie, with very limited technical skills (though expanding every day) I have to say that laziness is absolutely not in my vocabulary. I am currently on a break from my day job and have been fortunate enough to be able to spend unlimited time devoted to trying to build my online business, and have been putting in 17 hour days.

    A couple of weeks ago I didn't know my SEO from my ftp and have had to learn every single thing from scratch. A GREAT character building thing I have to say.

    Now that I am focusing on traffic generation, I am faced with loads of options, ideas, dos and don'ts etc. I got 54 unique visitors yesterday and I was beside myself with joy, until I realised they were all spiders and robots - maybe this is good, I don't know.

    So for me, laziness is definitely not an issue - just inexperience. But I AM learning thanks to the good folks at Warrior Forum.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
      Originally Posted by NikkiS View Post

      A couple of weeks ago I didn't know my SEO from my ftp and have had to learn every single thing from scratch. A GREAT character building thing I have to say.

      Now that I am focusing on traffic generation, I am faced with loads of options, ideas, dos and don'ts etc. I got 54 unique visitors yesterday and I was beside myself with joy, until I realised they were all spiders and robots - maybe this is good, I don't know.

      So for me, laziness is definitely not an issue - just inexperience. But I AM learning thanks to the good folks at Warrior Forum.
      So you're an exception - you don't know enough to be guilty of the laziness you just don't know what you should be doing yet or what results to expect.

      Here's a tip - ignore 'visitor' numbers and watch 'Sales'. If you get no sales it doesn't matter how many visitors you had.

      If you don't have at least 1000 links pointing to your site then there's more you can do.

      There are so many places and ways to get links that you should be able to keep busy 24/7 for a year and still not have exhausted all the options.

      You'll see people come here and say "I got 12 links to my site and I'm still not making money - how do I get more traffic" and they don't realise they may need 500 links (or more) to be visible in their niche.

      Testing your ability to get links is important because it's the way you end up being able to gauge whether you can compete when you're doing your research in the first place.
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    • Profile picture of the author The_Archer
      Combination of a few things... first of all, from what I gathered, new IM'ers just see the dollars signs. One thing is for sure, you only get rich instantly, in three ways:

      1-)Win the lottery
      2-)Marry someone rich
      3-)Inheritance

      I'm lazy but invested in the right products although not all of them worked. Paying for cheap traffic isn't a solution. You cut corners, you end up in the ditch.

      Laziness, well, most of us are guilty of it. I think the problem is the wrong state of mind and believing that the miracle cure is out there. I was on another forum, digital point. Once dude was asking why he wasn't getting any sales, well, upon reviewing his website, he had absolutely no backlinks point to his site. Traffic just doesn't appear out of nowhere.

      Another factor I see is that people think that because it's an online business that it doesn't require any investment. Ok, don't invest anything, sure, but will take years instead of months to see results. I mean, it's a business, not a hobby. Sure, the online world has TONS of free products all over, therefore, someone won't be willing to pay $67 per month for a backlink building tool that they will never get for free. An effective backlink building software? Hell no! Cable upgrade, hell yeah!

      Nothing wrong with lazy, but thee's something wrong with being lazy AND cheap.
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  • Profile picture of the author shaban
    Difficult for bigginers only.
    After a while you will be a saller.
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  • Profile picture of the author odlanor9
    I don't necessarily think its an issue of laziness (although that does play a role), it's more of a lack of commitment. They try forum marketing, for example, and don't get the results they want in a couple days so inherently they think it doesn't work.

    They think somehow people are conspiring to hide some secret money making strategy when really it just takes commitment and persistence.

    The key to success is not jumping from opportunity to opportunity, or from strategy to strategy - its picking 2-3 known profitable strategies and sticking with them until they work for you.

    So yes, I do think there are people who want the work to just get done for them, but the more detrimental issue is the access to information that causes people to search for something easier.

    The grass is not always greener on the other side...

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  • Profile picture of the author trytolearnmore
    Getting traffic is all about staying motivated... sadly, no one told us how to remain in that state.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenwrites
    People equate online work or working at home as sitting around in my jammies and watching the money roll in. That is the whole perception of this business that honestly, a lot of the "sales" pages on the Internet pitch.

    Maybe it's a combination of both: laziness and perception.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mukul Verma
    It is a lot of work to get traffic. More work then other things, however it is very important work in order to succeed.

    Traffic generation is a plan. It is not posting videos, articles, etc... you need to make a plan and constantly be working on it or have others work on it.

    My personal rule is that one full time person minimum has to be working on traffic generation at all times (right now I got 4). It is critical for the business to survive that once you grow make sure generating traffic always done.

    It is easy, but a lot of work

    Cheers,
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        Sometimes I think you have to try not to get traffic. I'm serious.

        Last week, I put up a brand new blog in a non IM niche.

        The next day...yes, the next day...I started getting traffic to it.

        I didn't even do anything yet. Just put a few articles on it.

        I mean for crying out loud, if you can't get traffic to your site, you must
        be doing something terribly, terribly wrong.
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        • Profile picture of the author mlord10
          Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

          Sometimes I think you have to try not to get traffic. I'm serious.

          Last week, I put up a brand new blog in a non IM niche.

          The next day...yes, the next day...I started getting traffic to it.

          I didn't even do anything yet. Just put a few articles on it.

          I mean for crying out loud, if you can't get traffic to your site, you must
          be doing something terribly, terribly wrong.
          Completely agree. I just wonder what people are actually doing who say that they can't get traffic (perhaps they are doing nothing:confused. I think a lot of people just have unrealistic expectations, and expect a lot of traffic for a little work.

          I have put up several blogger blogs in niche markets, wrote some content, submitted a few articles, made a few forum posts, built a few links, and I have traffic.

          I couldn't turn the traffic off to my websites if I tried, and that is not me bragging. It is just a fact that when you set up quality traffic streams, you can get traffic on demand (and fairly quickly).
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          • Profile picture of the author Claudiu Baciu
            Of course the majority is lazy but i think Robert is right, even if you succeed to bring traffic on the website and even if that traffic is targeted and you do not manage to transform that traffic in money and subscribers...then you create without realising the idea that you have little traffic for a decent income...
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            • Profile picture of the author mlord10
              Originally Posted by Claudiu Baciu View Post

              Of course the majority is lazy but i think Robert is right, even if you succeed to bring traffic on the website and even if that traffic is targeted and you do not manage to transform that traffic in money and subscribers...then you create without realising the idea that you have little traffic for a decent income...
              I think I know what you are trying to say... Most people are too dang lazy to try and generate traffic, and then when they do get some traffic they do not know what to do with it.

              Some people are too lazy to get traffic, and then other people focus so much on traffic generation that they do not have a good business model in place to maximize revenues from the traffic they generate.

              You should always have a solid business model in place before driving traffic, that way you can maximize your earnings from the traffic that you do receive.

              I still believe that you can make a very good living online with less than 50-100 visitors a day, if you have a solid business model in place to begin with.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jamie Stewart
    Traffic is of course essential.
    Targeted traffic (i.e. people who are actively
    interested in what you're offering) is where visitors
    become buying customers.

    Ultimately the bottom line for any business is profit from sales
    and one essential for that is having targeted traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author nongnut36
    Really good advice. Got to put the groundwork in first and keep doing what works and trying to improve your sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mrs S
    Generating traffic just takes a little time and effort. If you can set aside 30 minutes to an hour (2 is even better) and make it a habit to just carry out some traffic generating activities then you'll have more traffic than you know what to do with!
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    • Profile picture of the author mlord10
      Originally Posted by Mrs S View Post

      Generating traffic just takes a little time and effort. If you can set aside 30 minutes to an hour (2 is even better) and make it a habit to just carry out some traffic generating activities then you'll have more traffic than you know what to do with!
      Exactly! You hit the nail on the head. Folks who are struggling for traffic need to understand that you have to devote time to generating traffic. It may be writing articles, posting ads, tweaking PPC campaigns, etc. You could outsource these things of course, but that takes money as well!

      Devise a specific strategy that you are going to used based on your strengths. Stick to that strategy for a period of time, and I guarantee that you will see results.

      Don't get frustrated. Just realize that traffic takes a little work, but it is quite easily to generate targeted traffic to any website or blog!
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  • Profile picture of the author mm1
    you're right most people are just plain lazy but we all have our moments also traffic generation can be a real grind depending on the method you use
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    People are lazy. period

    traffic generation is not difficult if you put in some work.
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  • Profile picture of the author BethHewitt
    I don't get it either...there is really no need to pay for traffic, it has never been so easy. It takes time and effort, but its super simple and easy!!

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