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Hello,

Is there a legal way for a non us resident to open a us bank account without being there in person?
Anyone offering such a service or is just impossible ?

I don't know if this is the right forum to post this if not please move yo the appropriate forum
#account #bank #us bank account
  • Profile picture of the author Dan Bainbridge
    This took me a YEAR to figure out!

    I got rejected for a personal bank account, rejected for a business bank account with HSBC (even though I am in good standing with them and do my banking with them in the UK), got told upfront NO by others before even starting any of the application.

    Eventually I got one - it wass with Chase Bank - their team there were excellent, you could talk to the people who approve and reject you directly so they can give you a really good idea of what they need and if you will get it or not.
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    • Profile picture of the author scrofford
      Originally Posted by submp3s View Post

      This took me a YEAR to figure out!

      I got rejected for a personal bank account, rejected for a business bank account with HSBC (even though I am in good standing with them and do my banking with them in the UK), got told upfront NO by others before even starting any of the application.

      Eventually I got one - it wass with Chase Bank - their team there were excellent, you could talk to the people who approve and reject you directly so they can give you a really good idea of what they need and if you will get it or not.
      Yeah but in the end watch out! Chase Bank will screw ya! I have seen it happen to a lot of people.
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      • Profile picture of the author bigbrian
        Originally Posted by scrofford View Post

        Yeah but in the end watch out! Chase Bank will screw ya! I have seen it happen to a lot of people.
        Curious... How did Chase bank screw a lot of people? They are one of the largest financial institutions around.

        Brian
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        • Profile picture of the author davewebsmith
          Originally Posted by EnvyusBrian View Post

          Curious... How did Chase bank screw a lot of people? They are one of the largest financial institutions around.

          Brian
          All banks screw ppl mate ..

          Don't buy ebooks and info on the matter ... Pay for a ticket ... fly to the US use your passport and open an account

          I have one with BofA - opened in 30 min in Texas with my UK address
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      • Profile picture of the author gautam42
        Scrafford -Chase bank will screw u for what?
        Scafford it seems you love leaving remarks like this, scare people a bit...


        Chase , Wachovia , Citi - will all help you open an account but you need to keep calling & get the right person online. Then KYC norms (Know your customer norms can be fulfilled by attesting your documents form the local Us embassy) SO keep calling & have patience.

        All these banks insure your money via FDIC to $100,000.

        Many on this forum have got their accounts opened in this manner.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt.Lake
    I've heard good things about this: myUScompany.com
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    • Profile picture of the author Rukshan
      Originally Posted by Matt.Lake View Post

      I've heard good things about this: myUScompany.com
      Link is not working.
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  • Profile picture of the author mike.leembruggen
    Interesting... I have been thinking about this for a while. It would be much easier to have a US bank account. Australia is so far behind the times and I'm sick of paying high tax rates when most of my income is made in US dollars anyway.

    but... it sorta borders on money laundering.

    How does Chase bank screw ya?
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    • Profile picture of the author PaulaC
      Originally Posted by mike.leembruggen View Post

      Interesting... I have been thinking about this for a while. It would be much easier to have a US bank account. Australia is so far behind the times and I'm sick of paying high tax rates when most of my income is made in US dollars anyway.

      but... it sorta borders on money laundering.

      How does Chase bank screw ya?

      I don't think having a US bank account will stop you from paying tax in Australia.
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    • Profile picture of the author WillR
      Originally Posted by mike.leembruggen View Post

      I'm sick of paying high tax rates when most of my income is made in US dollars anyway.
      Why would you think that because your income is made predominantly in U.S dollars you should not have to pay the same tax as every other Australian? You still use our hospitals, roads, transport, right?

      If you don't want to pay the taxes of Australia then don't look at hiding your money in overseas bank accounts - move overseas.
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  • Profile picture of the author Janice Sperry
    You might want to check out EverBank. It is a U.S. totally online bank with zero brick and mortar buildings. You can apply online but you can also download an application. I couldn't find any info about non-U.S. residents but it is on the application. It has a place to fill out your country and passport number. You could call or email their customer service with questions. They are a multi-billion dollar bank that has been around for many years.

    Here is a link to the application if you just want to look it over...
    http://www.everbank.com/documents/ap...pplication.pdf

    If it is what you are looking for and it works out (or if you find another solution) would you com back and let us know? I get this question from time to time from people out of the country but I never know the best wat to direct them. It would be nice to here from someone that has had success.
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    • Profile picture of the author WPblogmatic
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      Incorporate in Delaware, then find a friend in the US who can be appointed a Director for a short period and get them to open the bank account.

      Then remove them and put yourself back as a Director.
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    • Profile picture of the author davewebsmith
      Originally Posted by JMS View Post

      You might want to check out EverBank. It is a U.S. totally online bank with zero brick and mortar buildings. You can apply online but you can also download an application. I couldn't find any info about non-U.S. residents but it is on the application. It has a place to fill out your country and passport number. You could call or email their customer service with questions. They are a multi-billion dollar bank that has been around for many years.

      Here is a link to the application if you just want to look it over...
      http://www.everbank.com/documents/ap...pplication.pdf

      If it is what you are looking for and it works out (or if you find another solution) would you com back and let us know? I get this question from time to time from people out of the country but I never know the best wat to direct them. It would be nice to here from someone that has had success.
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      Non -U.S. Citizen (non -resident alien )
      • If I (we) am (are) a non-resident alien, I (we) am (are) required to provide a complete applicable IRS Form W-8, a copy of my (our) valid
      passport, proof of residence, and a bank reference letter mailed directly from my (our) bank to EverBank with this application to certify
      my (our) foreign status. I (we) understand that I (we) am (are) not under penalty of perjury certifying the above information.
      • I (we) certify under penalties of perjury that (a) I (we) am (are) not a resident alien of the United States and am (are) not engaged in a trade
      or business in the United States; (b) I (we) do not have, nor am (are) I (we) required to have, a Social Security Number. Should my (our) status
      change, I (we) will promptly notify you of such a change.
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  • Profile picture of the author soup4one
    Anybody has experience with myuscompany?

    If you go with everbank you will have to deposit a minimal of $1500 that's what's written in the pdf application.
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    • Profile picture of the author jbpatlanta
      I have been wondering about this recently myself. Does anyone know how hard it is for a US citizen to open an account without being there in person.

      I don't live in the US anymore and don't want to wait until I make it back to open an account.

      This is a little off topic but anyone know the best place to find info on incorporating?

      Thanks

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  • Profile picture of the author soup4one
    Also how do you go about opening a chase bank and why do you say that they will screw ya ?
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    • I can't speak for the original commenter who said Chase will screw ya but I can say that almost all large conglomerate US banks will bend you over one way or the other. It's the cost of doing business with them, no need to fear just be aware and read every TOS and disclosure. Nickel and diming their customers is how they make money.

      Also with the new financial regulation over hauls that are being ironed out in US Congress, you're going to see a great deal of the old loop holes closed (never fear there will always be new one though).

      That said, most US banks do not care where their customer lives as long as they have some form of US tax identification number. Either a Social security number (SSN), an employee identification number (EIN) or a individual tax identification number (ITIN). Most of the problems a non-resident has with opening a US bank account is the lack of one of these numbers.

      Ever since the 9/11/2001 the US has taken a harder stance with non-US citizens opening accounts. It can be done but it's easier if you have a trust worthy person in the states to handle it for you. Like an attorney or someone with comparable skills. If you must make a go on your own, do it right. The last thing you want to do is become a "person of interest" and have the accounts frozen. You do NOT want to be transacting financial business in the US without one of these numbers.

      For this posting I'm going to assume that the applicant is NOT a US citizen.

      Non-US citizens can obtain a ITIN by filling out form W-7 (I think) but it will take some research and a few weeks. irs.gov


      Step one: Open a mailbox in the state you want to incorporate in. Check to make sure they offer remailing services to international customers. (I say Nevada but others may prefer Delaware). The [whatever state you want to incorporate in] Secretary of State website should have all the information you need regarding incorporation.

      Step two: Go to irs.gov and find out how to obtain a ITIN. Some countries have acceptance agents located nearby but you may have to mail the form in.

      Step three: Once you have that number you can either use it to obtain a EIN for your corporation or use it as an individual to open the bank account and you can use any bank you want. I suggest the business route.

      I'm sure there are quicker and less involved ways of doing this but I don't advise it. It's better to go about it the right way upfront, as I said the last thing you want to do is end up on some type of "watch list" or be earmarked as a "person of interest" Hope I was helpful.

      ...mmm maybe I'll write an ebook about this.
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      • Profile picture of the author bigbrian
        Originally Posted by ingeniousaffiliate View Post

        I can't speak for the original commenter who said Chase will screw ya but I can say that almost all large conglomerate US banks will bend you over one way or the other. It's the cost of doing business with them, no need to fear just be aware and read every TOS and disclosure. Nickel and diming their customers is how they make money.
        You hit it right on the money here man. I have all my personal bank accounts at a smaller local community bank. They know me by name when I walk in there, they are very courteous, and they always go the extra mile to help me out. There are no unrealistic nickel and dime fees and it's just good ol' fashioned banking the way it should be.

        For my corporate accounts I have them with BOFA just because they have all the latest and greatest technology and it's very easy to distribute payments, complete transactions, and have a nice dashboard view of my account activity anytime I want. They sure do bend me over and nickel and dime me with fees though - it's all about fees.

        So really... You just need to choose a bank that suits your needs. I know I went off on a tangent - sorry.

        Brian
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      • Profile picture of the author Don Brigante
        Originally Posted by ingeniousaffiliate View Post

        I can't speak for the original commenter who said Chase will screw ya but I can say that almost all large conglomerate US banks will bend you over one way or the other. It's the cost of doing business with them, no need to fear just be aware and read every TOS and disclosure. Nickel and diming their customers is how they make money.

        Also with the new financial regulation over hauls that are being ironed out in US Congress, you're going to see a great deal of the old loop holes closed (never fear there will always be new one though).

        That said, most US banks do not care where their customer lives as long as they have some form of US tax identification number. Either a Social security number (SSN), an employee identification number (EIN) or a individual tax identification number (ITIN). Most of the problems a non-resident has with opening a US bank account is the lack of one of these numbers.

        Ever since the 9/11/2001 the US has taken a harder stance with non-US citizens opening accounts. It can be done but it's easier if you have a trust worthy person in the states to handle it for you. Like an attorney or someone with comparable skills. If you must make a go on your own, do it right. The last thing you want to do is become a "person of interest" and have the accounts frozen. You do NOT want to be transacting financial business in the US without one of these numbers.

        For this posting I'm going to assume that the applicant is NOT a US citizen.

        Non-US citizens can obtain a ITIN by filling out form W-7 (I think) but it will take some research and a few weeks. irs.gov


        Step one: Open a mailbox in the state you want to incorporate in. Check to make sure they offer remailing services to international customers. (I say Nevada but others may prefer Delaware). The [whatever state you want to incorporate in] Secretary of State website should have all the information you need regarding incorporation.

        Step two: Go to irs.gov and find out how to obtain a ITIN. Some countries have acceptance agents located nearby but you may have to mail the form in.

        Step three: Once you have that number you can either use it to obtain a EIN for your corporation or use it as an individual to open the bank account and you can use any bank you want. I suggest the business route.

        I'm sure there are quicker and less involved ways of doing this but I don't advise it. It's better to go about it the right way upfront, as I said the last thing you want to do is end up on some type of "watch list" or be earmarked as a "person of interest" Hope I was helpful.

        ...mmm maybe I'll write an ebook about this.
        Great info! Please PM me when you have finished the book.
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  • Profile picture of the author gautam42
    @soup4one try Introduction Group Offices - OCRA Worldwide
    For setting a LLC in USA, 30years in the biz, best of the breed.
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  • Profile picture of the author badboy_Nick
    Originally Posted by soup4one View Post

    Hello,

    Is there a legal way for a non us resident to open a us bank account without being there in person?
    Anyone offering such a service or is just impossible ?

    I don't know if this is the right forum to post this if not please move yo the appropriate forum
    Yep, you can do this if you setup your own LLC or INC corporation. Just Google "incorporate" and theres loads of services who are more than happy to do all that for ya.

    Any questions just let me know
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  • Profile picture of the author Hugh
    If you are physically in the U.S., look up USAA Bank on the
    internet. Been with them for many years. Great people to
    deal with. They are currently advertising to increase their
    banking division. Yes federally insured.

    Hugh
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    • Profile picture of the author soup4one
      Originally Posted by Hugh View Post

      If you are physically in the U.S., look up USAA Bank on the
      internet. Been with them for many years. Great people to
      deal with. They are currently advertising to increase their
      banking division. Yes federally insured.

      Hugh
      If you are physically in the U.S why not walk straight to bank of America to open an account.
      All you'll need is a scan of your passport .i am just looking for a way to verify my paypal account and that can be done with a us bank account .
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  • Profile picture of the author gautam42
    EIN | VALIS International


    good incorporating company
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  • Profile picture of the author gautam42
    Got a good response from Wachovia (sent documents to be filled by courier to my country & citibank also.
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  • Profile picture of the author michealcdz
    Use western union or 2co ....
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  • Profile picture of the author michealcdz
    i mean why do u need a us bank account if you can get your cash through these services
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  • Profile picture of the author gautam42
    That pg 6 referred above is sent by all banks.....citibank, wachovia...
    It is part of standard documents for foreign aliens.

    @michaelcdz:In the longer run, if you are serious on online business, you need to cut down the time of the payment transaction so then banking online with a Citibank or Wachovia in the usa is the solution>
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  • Profile picture of the author gautam42
    @ davewebsmit that pg 6 you are referring to is W8 Ben, by the US government.
    It is for tax purposes to avoid the bank retaining interest as direct deduction for tax, as you are an foreign alien. ( not the ufo kinds obviously
    You require to give tha same form to any USA organization you deal with Affiliate networks, CPA networks..... so that they don't deduct the tax amount at source.
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