Don't Answer My Email Please

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Hey Warriors,

Something on my mind and I Wanted to findout if it was me (maybe personal) or human nature.

I make it a habit to answer every email thats personally address to me (now maybe I am a small guy in this whole online work, so its easier). I use a system that it is cleared from my inbox only after responded too and into a folder.

I am finding more and more people in business, personal, everywhere do not both responding to emails.

I even did a training from a Internet Marketer (most money spent on training), I sent a email with a testimonial and question. The testimonial was used for further promotion I saw later on, but I never got a response to that email. Personal life on things impacting other people. Last week a guy emails me to ask a video marketing question and was shocked I responded.

Anyone seeing this or reasoning why lack of response?

I LOVE competitors who do this, is a huge opportunity.

Cheers,
Mukul
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  • Because of the Pareto Principle: 20% of your efforts will bring 80% of your income... and it's totally true.

    Now a days, I know within the first email or two whether someone is potentially a buyer of my products or whether he is just going to waste my time with random chit chat. I am VERY quick to determine which emails I am to answer and which ones I wont.

    Your time and resources are limited. And, as an entrepreneur, you better filter unproductive ventures out ASAP.
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

      Because of the Pareto Principle: 20% of your efforts will bring 80% of your income... and it's totally true.
      And there's absolutely no way to know which 20% it is.

      See, here's the problem. I frequently ask questions and "waste the vendor's time" when I know I'm going to be putting a lot of effort behind something.

      I've got a membership site launching in a couple months. I'm very frustrated by the number of WP plugins and expensive membership scripts I've got which simply don't do the job. I'm going to be putting a few hundred hours into this site before it makes so much as a dime, and I would really be pissed off if I got halfway through that and found out ONCE AGAIN the system isn't up to the task and I have to throw it all away.

      You put a kick-arse system in my hands, make me feel good about using it, and walk the talk when I get into the meat of it? I will sing your praises from the damn rooftops. Whether I buy your system is the least of your concerns. Chief among them should be that if your competitor does this with a script that isn't as good, you lose a shedload of publicity and promotion that would have put cash in your pocket.

      Because for reasons I don't entirely understand, people listen to me, and think my opinion means something. And since I'm just a big attention whore, I'll take that and run with it.
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      • Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

        And there's absolutely no way to know which 20% it is.
        Absolutely incorrect. I have been doing this for a long time, and I do it rather successfully. And trust me: I KNOW my business, I KNOW my prospects, and I KNOW when someone burps questions mercilessly without any actual intention of buying the product. That's what's called "experience".

        If you don't know where your "power 20%" lies within your business, you have a VERY serious problem to fix my friend.
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        • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
          Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

          trust me: I KNOW my business, I KNOW my prospects, and I KNOW when someone burps questions mercilessly without any actual intention of buying the product.
          What you don't know is whether your payday is coming out of that someone's wallet.

          I build products. I like to give options. I already own two products I like that do the same thing yours does. So I contact you to find out whether your product will do what I need.

          I have absolutely no intention of buying your product, and almost certainly won't. So hey, feel free to blow me off, and I'll put someone else's product in front of my customers.

          Do you suppose that might still cost you money, in the end?
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        • Profile picture of the author la dominatrix
          Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate
          Because of the Pareto Principle: 20% of your efforts will bring 80% of your income... and it's totally true.

          And there's absolutely no way to know which 20% it is.

          Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

          Absolutely incorrect. I have been doing this for a long time, and I do it rather successfully. And trust me: I KNOW my business, I KNOW my prospects, and I KNOW when someone burps questions mercilessly without any actual intention of buying the product. That's what's called "experience".

          If you don't know where your "power 20%" lies within your business, you have a VERY serious problem to fix my friend.

          Well I know which of the two people I would want to do business with, I have forty years experience and it still does not tell me who or what the twenty percent is. However I could have decided that I knew thirty nine years ago and chalked it down to expereience and and lost out
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    • Profile picture of the author KevinYoung
      Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

      Because of the Pareto Principle: 20% of your efforts will bring 80% of your income... and it's totally true.

      Now a days, I know within the first email or two whether someone is potentially a buyer of my products or whether he is just going to waste my time with random chit chat. I am VERY quick to determine which emails I am to answer and which ones I wont.

      Your time and resources are limited. And, as an entrepreneur, you better filter unproductive ventures out ASAP.
      Couldn't have said it better myself, dude. :-)

      I can immediately tell if someone is a serious buyer or just someone with random chit-chat.
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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    I am surprised when a vendor responds to what I think is an important question. Most don't. The ones that do are most refreshing and I remember them and if they have a product that interests me I am more apt to spend the money. Customer service is a very important thing in business, and if you don't have time for it, then I for one will not be so quick to send you my money.
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    • Profile picture of the author hummingbird81
      Originally Posted by timpears View Post

      I am surprised when a vendor responds to what I think is an important question. Most don't. The ones that do are most refreshing and I remember them and if they have a product that interests me I am more apt to spend the money. Customer service is a very important thing in business, and if you don't have time for it, then I for one will not be so quick to send you my money.
      I understand that Gurus don't have time to reply for every email, but if they earn as much as they claim they should hire a person for customer support.

      Internet marketing is all about building relationships with potential buyers.
      If they know you treat they seriously and you really want to help them, they will trust you and they will be more willing to buy anything from you.

      I don't like when people ignore my emails. I don't buy from them.
      But if someone replies I'm so happy that I would buy anything he offers...
      And I would do something more: say about him and his product to everybody around.

      I know it may sound funny but most people make buying decisions under emotions. Our role is to keep the customer in that positive emotion longer to avoid refunds.

      If I buy something and after purchase the vendor ignores me, I ask for refund with pleasure
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      • Profile picture of the author Robert Puddy
        Originally Posted by hummingbird81 View Post

        If I buy something and after purchase the vendor ignores me, I ask for refund with pleasure
        So basicly if you buy something from me for $20 I am at your beck and call forever or you will ask for a refund?
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        • Profile picture of the author theemperor
          Originally Posted by Robert Puddy View Post

          So basicly if you buy something from me for $20 I am at your beck and call forever or you will ask for a refund?
          Nope ... just for 60 days . Now massage my feet ... slave!
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          • Profile picture of the author mcmahanusa
            I'm getting worried. I'm starting to understand CD. Here I was, priding myself on being shallow, and his in-depth thinking is making sense.

            But seriously, folks, I think that you can't go wrong with operating on the "six degrees of separation" principle (okay, six degrees of Kevin Bacon, if you prefer). It really is a small world, and you can bet that how you treat people, whether with courtesy and respect or with disdain, will come back to you, one way or another.
            To the member who "knows" who is just wasting his time, I would suggest getting a little more experience. Sometime the biggest pain in the butt becomes not only your best customer, but the head of your cheering section. If you don't want to waste your own time on these people whom you dismiss so cavalierly, then outsource it. You might be surprised at the long-term results. Assuming that you want positive long-term results rather than a quick buck.
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            • Profile picture of the author eaglechick
              Originally Posted by mcmahanusa View Post

              Sometime the biggest pain in the butt becomes not only your best customer, but the head of your cheering section. If you don't want to waste your own time on these people whom you dismiss so cavalierly, then outsource it. You might be surprised at the long-term results. Assuming that you want positive long-term results rather than a quick buck.
              I rest my case - and who can argue with "Albert Einstein"! You've nailed it!:rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Mukul Verma
    My mindsets more with Tim.

    I am trying to understand how people can have a mindset like AA in business or life. (AA I respect you and there are more that do then dont, this is just a learning for me buddy).

    Is it that emails not important to them or what is it?

    Cheers,
    Mukul
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by Mukul Verma View Post

    Hey Warriors,

    Something on my mind and I Wanted to findout if it was me (maybe personal) or human nature.

    I make it a habit to answer every email thats personally address to me (now maybe I am a small guy in this whole online work, so its easier). I use a system that it is cleared from my inbox only after responded too and into a folder.

    I am finding more and more people in business, personal, everywhere do not both responding to emails.

    I even did a training from a Internet Marketer (most money spent on training), I sent a email with a testimonial and question. The testimonial was used for further promotion I saw later on, but I never got a response to that email. Personal life on things impacting other people. Last week a guy emails me to ask a video marketing question and was shocked I responded.

    Anyone seeing this or reasoning why lack of response?

    I LOVE competitors who do this, is a huge opportunity.

    Cheers,
    Mukul
    I don't respond to all e-mails, anything that doesn't need a reply I just file, anything that does require a reply I do respond, sometimes it takes time but I do get to it.
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  • Profile picture of the author tamilseo
    They are receiving lot of emails that is the reason. I have one customer who bought my $7 guide. If he finds me in gtalk he will start asking questions. most of the questions are not related to my product. I have to spend lot of time for him only.

    If guru's want to answer every email they will not able to do their other tasks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mukul Verma
      Originally Posted by ChrisBa View Post

      I don't respond to all e-mails, anything that doesn't need a reply I just file, anything that does require a reply I do respond, sometimes it takes time but I do get to it.
      This is what I do, I find very few are personally to me.

      Originally Posted by tamilseo View Post

      They are receiving lot of emails that is the reason. I have one customer who bought my $7 guide. If he finds me in gtalk he will start asking questions. most of the questions are not related to my product. I have to spend lot of time for him only.

      If guru's want to answer every email they will not able to do their other tasks.
      This is a good point, but here is what I noticed. The ones that ask alot of questions, do very little action. I always refer them back to the guide or training and I always ask the same question over and over atain. Have you done ABC. The answer is no and they now know that if they come emailing exactly what I am doing to say, do the work. I will be asking if they have done the work. If they have done the work and its a lot of work, they will succeed and I am happy.

      I do agree that if you buy a $7 product, dont look at that as free access to the person training you. It is wrong to think that. I do expect that no matter what price you buy the course, it does what it says it does. If it does not make logical sense to put together then ask emails on it. A product owner should only be selling what makes sense and works for them.

      I set up a coaching page if someone wants consulting as I get lots of request as do others. Honestly, I prefer not to consult people, I prefer doing the online business. the other thing I often tell people and I do it myself (I am doing it now). Come to Warrior Forum and ask your questions (always contribute twice as much as you ask I suggest). You get lot of different perspectives and thats GOLD!!!!!! I do this all the time.

      As for GURU, no one says they have to answer it themselves. But they need a system in it so there customers are not hanging. It is bad business to leave customers hanging.

      One last point. I did mention that I was getting random people adding me to skype and not saying hi and just chatting asking there million questions. I removed skype. Make it less easier to reach you, if you cannot answer peoples questions.

      I am SHOCKED that people are cool with ignoring emails. Sorry to say the only ones I hope do that are my competitors. I got a 1 hour response to emails during business hours to my customer service rep.

      I dont do much in the IM market, less then 5% income. It is more for learning, but I find that people who purchased 1 of my products, there are a lot who have picked up the other one. Maybe this is due to response of emails and talking to people.

      Why bother having an email if you are going to ignore it.

      Cheers,
      Mukul

      PS - Sorry, I had a lot to say
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        I respond to all my emails too, but I can understand somebody with a huge
        business not being able to do this. However, they should at least have a
        support desk to handle customer support questions or prospect inquiries.

        Ultimately, each person has to run their business the way they feel they
        should.
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  • Profile picture of the author eaglechick
    Hi Mukul

    Yeah, I'm with you and Tim on this one. It is only courteous and professional to respond to questions even if they appear trivial to you. What do you know about the person sending you the mail? Nothing. He could be a potential lifelong client.

    Like Chris also pointed out some mails don't require an answer at least answer the questions you do receive about your product/service. Then I'm not talking about freebie seekers that just wants to pick your brain and nothing else.

    The "guru's" time and money is exactly the same as mine and yours - there is no difference. Why should their time be considered more valuable than mine and yours.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mukul Verma
    OK you are big.

    If you dont want to answer peoples emails, dont be a trainer or IM Coach.
    If you run a business have a support system in place.

    I hear 20/80, but what is peoples thinking not to answer emails??

    Cheers,
    Mukul
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    • Originally Posted by Mukul Verma View Post

      If you dont want to answer peoples emails, dont be a trainer or IM Coach.
      If you run a business have a support system in place.

      I hear 20/80, but what is peoples thinking not to answer emails??
      It's not about not answering emails. It's about doing it EFFICIENTLY. I repeat: once you've been doing this for a while, you KNOW which of your prospects are interested and have their credit card in hand, and which are just sniffing around without any intention to buy.

      Your time as an entrepreneur is precious, and you don't want to waste it with "casual sniffers". 20-80, remember? So invest your time in that 20% of people who are actually looking to buy.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mukul Verma
        Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

        Absolutely incorrect. I have been doing this for a long time, and I do it rather successfully. And trust me: I KNOW my business, I KNOW my prospects, and I KNOW when someone burps questions mercilessly without any actual intention of buying the product. That's what's called "experience".

        If you don't know where your "power 20%" lies within your business, you have a VERY serious problem to fix my friend.
        Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

        It's not about not answering emails. It's about doing it EFFICIENTLY. I repeat: once you've been doing this for a while, you KNOW which of your prospects are interested and have their credit card in hand, and which are just sniffing around without any intention to buy.

        Your time as an entrepreneur is precious, and you don't want to waste it with "casual sniffers". 20-80, remember? So invest your time in that 20% of people who are actually looking to buy.
        AA I guess is depends on your business model. I try to mine that I am personally not involved in the day to day, so my time more free for my choosing. How about removing yourself from your business day to day (just a thought).

        Also about knowing the 20%, you will be surprised sometimes. I did business with a guy for one of my sites when I was very small and he gave me the respect and treated me as if I was giving him a lot of business...fast forward 3 years. I am not likely one of his biggest clients, if not the biggest. I can make another grand a month if I changed. BUT giving me the time and details when I need it is now rewarding him even at the cost to me. If he ignored me and did not give me that respect, he would not be making money each month, pretty hands off. So you never know what would happen even doing it for a long time.

        Cheers,
        Mukul
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  • Profile picture of the author eaglechick
    Anonymous Affilliate

    Is that why you prefer to stay anonymous? Believe me I really don't think I'll buy from you. Is'nt it the constitutional right of every buyer to shop around? or can you "figure out" just from an email of a prospective client he is ready to buy. So, you're only interested in "credit card in the hand buyers"?

    Don't you think in the end it is possible that this approach is going to bite you in the back!
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by eaglechick View Post

      Don't you think in the end it is possible that this approach is going to bite you in the back!
      There is an old saying that if you open a restaurant in New York City, you can treat every customer that ever walks into it like crap... and still never go out of business.

      The market for restaurants in NYC is like that. The demand outstrips supply so much, quality doesn't mean squat. Service doesn't mean squat.

      The only thing New Yorkers care about is... rats. If your restaurant fails a health inspection because of anything to do with rats, it will make the news, and in a matter of weeks the word will spread far enough that nobody will ever come into your restaurant again.

      There are lots of markets like this, where the only thing you have to worry about is easy to avoid. AA could very well specialise in them, there's nothing wrong with that, and it is actually a very efficient business model.

      Doesn't make you many friends, but that's why the first A. If social and reputation concerns were part of every post AA made, honesty and transparency would not be on the menu.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

        The only thing New Yorkers care about is... rats.
        Actually, we'll eat with the rats as long as the food is good and the rats
        stay in their corner of the building.
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        • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
          Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

          Actually, we'll eat with the rats as long as the food is good and the rats stay in their corner of the building.
          Dude, you're in Joisey. That's different. I know you like to pretend it's not, but it is.

          I don't grasp the problem people have with rats. In all major seaports, there are going to be rats. You can't eradicate them. You can't keep them out of everything. You just try to keep the impact to a minimum.

          It's actually to your benefit if you maintain a highly-attractive rat den as a distraction; I worked for a Baltimore restaurant which inhabited a space that used to be a mechanic's garage, and they literally walled off part of the service floor and left it open to the rear of the building... then just hurled kitchen waste into the lift pit every night. The place teemed with rats. You could look in the pit and see them roiling around like a sea of brown fur and fleas.

          But inside the restaurant? Never a single rat. Never a single dropping. Why would they come into the restaurant, when there was this wonderful pit of garbage right next door?
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          • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
            Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

            Dude, you're in Joisey. That's different. I know you like to pretend it's not, but it is.
            or?
            LOL...Yeah, I know I'm in Joisey. But I come from a LONG line of New Yorkers.

            How do you think I GOT to New Joisey?

            My grandfather's family, The Bronx.

            My Grandmother's family, Queens.

            As a kid, I almost lived in the city bumming around at just about every
            record store and restaurant you can think of.

            A gourmet lunch was a dirty water hot dog.

            Yeah, I may live in Joisey, but I haven't forgotten what it was like to
            be a smart ass New Yorker.

            Or can't you tell?
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            • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
              Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

              My Grandmother's family, Queens.
              I used to live on Jamaica street.

              A gourmet lunch was a dirty water hot dog.
              Was? What do you mean, was? That still is gourmet!

              Yeah, I may live in Joisey, but I haven't forgotten what it was like to be a smart ass New Yorker.
              Sure you have. You'll eat with rats. :p
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by eaglechick View Post

      simply because I'm a sucker and will never make a 'dime' - will be too busy answering all the mails.
      The people who tell you all about how your customers are going to screw you... are those customers.

      In general, honest people fall prey to dishonesty because their brains simply don't work that way. An honest person simply doesn't understand the thought process that dishonest people follow.

      When they get up to the cash register and there's no cashier, they stand there and wait. If they simply can't wait any longer, and they just leave, they will at their worst leave the items they were going to buy at the cash register... and frequently put them back on the shelves before they go.

      A dishonest person looks around for a cashier, then looks around for a camera, then estimates how quickly he can make the exit. The expertly dishonest will do this so quickly and casually, they don't even break stride - they walk right past the register and out the door as though it was their plan all along.

      But unless you've been that person, the idea never even occurs to you.

      And those who were that person, but are not that person anymore, are frequently the people who are putting their stuff back on the shelves before leaving the store.
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      • Profile picture of the author sanssecret
        And until I read this, the only thing that occurred to me was to leave the items on the counter and walk out in disgust.
        Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

        An honest person simply doesn't understand the thought process that dishonest people follow.

        When they get up to the cash register and there's no cashier, they stand there and wait. If they simply can't wait any longer, and they just leave, they will at their worst leave the items they were going to buy at the cash register... and frequently put them back on the shelves before they go.

        A dishonest person looks around for a cashier, then looks around for a camera, then estimates how quickly he can make the exit. The expertly dishonest will do this so quickly and casually, they don't even break stride - they walk right past the register and out the door as though it was their plan all along.

        But unless you've been that person, the idea never even occurs to you.


        Back to the op. I can understand why someone getting thousands of emails a day doesn't answer them personally. But by the time you're that successful you should have someone filtering them for you, passing you the ones you need to deal with, and dealing with the rest themselves.

        For those who don't recieve such a huge number, (lucky me ) answering them personally makes a nice change from doing the day job and it's got me a number of new mates who, while they might never buy anything from me, are still mates I wouldn't otherwise have had. And somewhere along the line, they'll tell someone else what a decent, upstanding, all round fabulous type of person I am, ( :p ) and that someone else will buy something.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mukul Verma
    This is not New York...

    I am still trying to understand peoples mindsets towards email, thanks AA for being open about it, appreciate that.

    Cheers,
    Mukul
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    • Profile picture of the author NicheMayhem
      Originally Posted by Mukul Verma View Post

      This is not New York...

      I am still trying to understand peoples mindsets towards email, thanks AA for being open about it, appreciate that.

      Cheers,
      Mukul
      In my opinion the mindset towards email is typically an eventual assumption that your time is worth more then people who want to ask you questions. It comes down to your level of compassion and regard for your fellow man. Whether they buy from you or not should not dictate if you will take the time to be a friendly marketer. Then your just a prick.

      The successful people who have advanced their business to a point where their time is more valuable should perhaps put some thought into hiring a real person to do nothing but answer those emails to the best of their ability and follow your guidelines to accommodate everyone who takes interest in their business among all the competition just to dot all the I's and cross all the T's of possible prospects.

      The mindset towards unanswered emails is often a disregard for that email being composed by a real person, once you cross into taking it upon yourself to identify real people as nothing but wallets which are closed or open is a realm that in my opinion should never exist and will hinder your business in the long run. You can argue that it is a waste of time to consider another person but I will still think your a jerk and pick up on your self assured superiority complex which closes my wallet instantly.
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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by NicheMayhem View Post

        It comes down to your level of compassion and regard for your fellow man. Whether they buy from you or not should not dictate if you will take the time to be a friendly marketer. Then your just a prick.
        To drive this in another direction entirely...

        There are three classifications of other human beings.

        Object -> Stereotype -> Individual

        At the raw level of "object," you don't know this person. You know that it is not YOU, but that's all you need to know. You don't particularly care to know anything about this person. Click stats are like this; the qualities and desires of the individual are irrelevant. When you walk down the sidewalk, other people on the same sidewalk are objects. You avoid hitting them, but you don't socially interact with them in any way at all.

        At the level of "stereotype," you know what type of person this is, but only on a very basic level. Market demographics fall into this category. You might know that someone is Korean, between the ages of 25 and 40, college-educated, and married but childless... but what you can determine from that is limited, and in many cases offensive.

        Finally, at the "individual" level, you know precisely who this is. You recognise the name or the face and you know the unique, specific likes and dislikes of this person. Most people can handle about 150 other human beings in their lives on the "individual" level. Beyond that, they become confused, unless they make a direct and concerted effort to treat more people like individuals.

        There is a certain parallel with the parent-adult-child triad in I'm OK, You're OK... but it's not precisely the same thing.

        I've been trying to work in a couple other aspects to this, following which I will attempt to massage it into a four- or five-letter acronym that is easy to remember.
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        • Profile picture of the author NicheMayhem
          Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

          To drive this in another direction entirely...

          There are three classifications of other human beings.

          Object -> Stereotype -> Individual

          At the raw level of "object," you don't know this person. You know that it is not YOU, but that's all you need to know. You don't particularly care to know anything about this person. Click stats are like this; the qualities and desires of the individual are irrelevant. When you walk down the sidewalk, other people on the same sidewalk are objects. You avoid hitting them, but you don't socially interact with them in any way at all.

          At the level of "stereotype," you know what type of person this is, but only on a very basic level. Market demographics fall into this category. You might know that someone is Korean, between the ages of 25 and 40, college-educated, and married but childless... but what you can determine from that is limited, and in many cases offensive.

          Finally, at the "individual" level, you know precisely who this is. You recognise the name or the face and you know the unique, specific likes and dislikes of this person. Most people can handle about 150 other human beings in their lives on the "individual" level. Beyond that, they become confused, unless they make a direct and concerted effort to treat more people like individuals.

          There is a certain parallel with the parent-adult-child triad in I'm OK, You're OK... but it's not precisely the same thing.

          I've been trying to work in a couple other aspects to this, following which I will attempt to massage it into a four- or five-letter acronym that is easy to remember.
          An interesting classification of human nature there. Can be related to progression of getting to know someone or sizing them up. Just to express my opinion, you are correct as far as me acknowledging a person on the street as nothing but an object, same goes for my click traffic. Thing is though, and pertaining to this thread, once that object on the street says "Hey, can you tell me how to get to Sesame Street" I won't say "got 5 bucks?" I'll tell them if I know.

          Classifying the mass amount of those who email me as far as business is not and will never be based solely on their intention to buy or waste my time, I am a strong believer in treating others as I wish to be treated. I see the annoyances but I also just regard that annoyance as a price of me doing business not far from my refrigerator. I also acknowledge the massive amount of competition out there and am thankful for those who choose to ask a question of me or my brand.

          Its slightly funny to me to think of market demographics as "stereotypes" I've never looked at it like that and can see what you mean. I have no bias though and unless I can totally not comprehend the email, I aim to answer it or have one of my team do so cordially and help them out.

          I guess I am one of those people who just strive to treat others as individuals but once I give the directions I do not want to know anything else or continue to be held up with nothing in it for me. I don't think that is rude and yes I am sure someone might say "Well would if..." I'm not going to go down that route, if you ask I'll answer but the only thing I can say with absolute assurance is I can identify a negative intention, those I do not tolerate nor entertain.

          To CD, I'd be interested to know what that acronym ends up being.
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          • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
            Originally Posted by NicheMayhem View Post

            Its slightly funny to me to think of market demographics as "stereotypes" I've never looked at it like that and can see what you mean.
            One of the things that falls out of this is an entirely different view of prejudice/intolerance/racism/bigotry. The "stereotype" category is supposed to be a temporary, transitional stage that people occupy for only a short time... and the various "unacceptable" types of putting people in this category are really just cases of having them in this category for too long.

            I guess I am one of those people who just strive to treat others as individuals but once I give the directions I do not want to know anything else or continue to be held up with nothing in it for me.
            There are a pair of notions that I find useful.

            First, if you hold any belief in either reincarnation or the Jungian collective unconscious, it stands to reason that you and every other human being on the planet are already intimately connected. You have merely forgotten why, and must rediscover it.

            Second, a gentleman named Huan Do informed me that the secret to his success in business was that he imagined every new person he met was certain to become his trusted friend - and then simply pretended it had already happened. As he put it, there were people who took advantage of him, but the rewards from the rest more than compensated for them.

            If you combine these, it puts some semblance of reason and philosophy behind the apparent Pollyanna sentiment in Huan Do's perspective. You're not actually pretending it's already happened; it has already happened.

            Maybe that's a little too "Mind Power" for this forum
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            • Profile picture of the author NicheMayhem
              Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

              One of the things that falls out of this is an entirely different view of prejudice/intolerance/racism/bigotry. The "stereotype" category is supposed to be a temporary, transitional stage that people occupy for only a short time... and the various "unacceptable" types of putting people in this category are really just cases of having them in this category for too long.



              There are a pair of notions that I find useful.

              First, if you hold any belief in either reincarnation or the Jungian collective unconscious, it stands to reason that you and every other human being on the planet are already intimately connected. You have merely forgotten why, and must rediscover it.

              Second, a gentleman named Huan Do informed me that the secret to his success in business was that he imagined every new person he met was certain to become his trusted friend - and then simply pretended it had already happened. As he put it, there were people who took advantage of him, but the rewards from the rest more than compensated for them.

              If you combine these, it puts some semblance of reason and philosophy behind the apparent Pollyanna sentiment in Huan Do's perspective. You're not actually pretending it's already happened; it has already happened.

              Maybe that's a little too "Mind Power" for this forum
              With your explanation of the "stereotype" aspect, I agree with what your saying. You are a much deeper thinker then I, have to say that may be the first time I ever said that to anyone...kudos...I do also strive to keep myself from sizing people up constantly like that though, I want to remain me just as much as I want to continue my trek in internet marketing. I do not want it to consume me and find myself one day categorizing individuals which cross my path into demographics and imagine the niches they may be susceptible to. I'd have to admit I consider that a tad beastly and obsession driven. But in regards to the emails I see what you mean there.


              Upon contemplating you and I being intimately connected already, I am feeling a little disturbed and uncomfortable...:p jk

              An interesting philosophy, to be quite honest though I seriously commend anyone with the ability to truly treat every single person as if they were already a close friend on the premise of an eventual success. My intentions in all honesty simply stem from my mother, lol.

              I am not perfect though and some have an uncanny knack to just irritate me to no end. In business though, it is the customer who is always right, prospective or active and as the quoted philosophy would insinuate you just never know where your good intentions will lead you.

              I must say I agree with you as far as the collective message, Tony Robbins is one person whom I consider to be very knowledgeable within motivation and inner progression before outer progression, as kooky as he is. The simple belief of success actually conjures resolve and dedication just based on a person's belief they are destined for it. The interview wth him, Kern, and John Reese was simply an outstanding example of how people function which to me, spoke volumes about the power of inner belief.

              After all, a lot of this internet marketing stuff is dependent upon interacting with, the supporting of and networking with others. Thanks for sharing that, not too mind power for me but skirting on the edge. lol
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              Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post



              - the secret to his success in business was that he imagined every new person he met was certain to become his trusted friend - and then simply pretended it had already happened. As he put it, there were people who took advantage of him, but the rewards from the rest more than compensated for them.

              You're not actually pretending it's already happened; it has already happened.

              Maybe that's a little too "Mind Power" for this forum
              I'll admit I'll have to practice my Mind Power skills - all it boils down to is:
              The Power of Positive Thinking - Norman Vincent Peale without diluting yourself.

              "Believe in yourself! Have faith in your abilities! Without a humble but reasonable confidence in your own powers you cannot be successful or happy."
              Norman Vincent Peale


              "
              Action is a great restorer and builder of confidence. Inaction is not only the result, but the cause, of fear. Perhaps the action you take will be successful; perhaps different action or adjustments will have to follow. But any action is better than no action at all."
              Norman Vincent Peale

              Source:
              http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/au...ent_peale.html (To send to your twitter followers)

              Or are we wandering off the topic??
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              • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
                Originally Posted by eaglechick View Post

                The Power of Positive Thinking - Norman Vincent Peale without diluting yourself.
                I find Peale much too focused on biblical references for my taste. While it's simply a product of his time and environment, rather than any deliberate attempt at propaganda or manipulation, it still just gives me the willies. It's like reading a thesis with only one entry in the bibliography; you can't help but wonder what the author is leaving out.
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                • Profile picture of the author Mukul Verma
                  Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post


                  Second, a gentleman named Huan Do informed me that the secret to his success in business was that he imagined every new person he met was certain to become his trusted friend - and then simply pretended it had already happened. As he put it, there were people who took advantage of him, but the rewards from the rest more than compensated for them.
                  This is very true and I am not thinking over the years the people that I would refer people too or keep a relationship. I talk to them once or twice a year, but still have that connection. Example the real estate agent I got this place from 4 years ago and will use again next year. He treats everyone like they are a friend.

                  Now the flip side. I dont use the phone for business, i keep it to email or chat. I have a set of preconceived believes that come into play everytime someone wants to chat. Oh they just want something, oh the phones a waste of time, oh why cant we do this by email or online. Anyways, so I am limiting myself with that believe.

                  I think that is what is happening to people and email. They are not responding since they think they will waste there time and be walked all over. I dont disagree, but here is my approach, but I think our own believe systems around email, just like phone to me will only beat yourself up, when they may be a life long friend, someone you share great information with or a future customer. I do extremely little in Internet Marketing Niche, but those people will buy all your stuff quite often.

                  I want someone who refuses to answer emails for 1 week answer all emails fast and see what happens.

                  I am going to try to treat everyone like they are my good friend, I like that advice and again seeing around me here, it seems to have worked well for others (My real estate agent made like 50K off me and my referals from this method).

                  Cheers,
                  Mukul


                  PS - No ones ever taken me up on my one on one coaching offer at $300/hour and I am taking a guess that its becuase I say stuff like above (which I left in to make a point on mindset) and will flat our say its expensive, (so goto Warrior Forum)

                  PS - So you guys want to together for a BBQ next weekend?
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