What does it take to earn $4000 a month?

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Okay so i have this confusion what shall i do to make that much money?

I know SEO. Should i Target Made for adsense site or cpa? If CPA then which offer?

I know how to rank well. I have all the tools to drive traffic. I ranked my twilight article on 1st page after few hours of work. I want to capitalize on my knowledge and with the tools i have.

I need an expert to guide me what will be the best option to make a killing if one can rank on 1st page.

I need suggestions.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    Hey Salman,

    What haven't you been asking me stuff on Skype??
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  • Profile picture of the author regska
    I'm not an expert when it comes to SEO. But for me, if I want to make at least $4,000/month, I'll work on building my list. You can earn $4k in a month doing some other things, but the question is, can you sustain it on the following months? If you have like 6k of 10k subscribers, then sustaining your $4k a month income would be much more easier.

    Set measurable goals as well. Don't just jump in and say "how can I earn $4k a month"? Take it one step at a time. Earn your first $100, then $500, $1,000 and so on and so forth.
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    • Profile picture of the author sulmaanaslam
      Originally Posted by regska View Post

      I'm not an expert when it comes to SEO. But for me, if I want to make at least $4,000/month, I'll work on building my list. You can earn $4k in a month doing some other things, but the question is, can you sustain it on the following months? If you have like 6k of 10k subscribers, then sustaining your $4k a month income would be much more easier.

      Set measurable goals as well. Don't just jump in and say "how can I earn $4k a month"? Take it one step at a time. Earn your first $100, then $500, $1,000 and so on and so forth.
      Yeah that is what im doing right now. Working on this Free iPad offer.

      Well about building list i think i should have a look at Michael Dunlop i guess. I havnt yet had a clear picture of having a list ..and i mean in which niche you should build a list?
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      • Profile picture of the author regska
        Originally Posted by sulmaanaslam View Post

        Yeah that is what im doing right now. Working on this Free iPad offer.

        Well about building list i think i should have a look at Michael Dunlop i guess. I havnt yet had a clear picture of having a list ..and i mean in which niche you should build a list?
        Build list in the niche that you're in. For example, I'm into IM, list building, article marketing and traffic generation niches, I focus building my list about those topics. If you're in a health niche, build your list around that niche. So whatever niche you cover, build a list around it.
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      • Profile picture of the author jkt
        Originally Posted by sulmaanaslam View Post

        Yeah that is what im doing right now. Working on this Free iPad offer.

        Well about building list i think i should have a look at Michael Dunlop i guess. I havnt yet had a clear picture of having a list ..and i mean in which niche you should build a list?
        I definitely agree with picking a niche that you have a lot of interest in, yourself...

        I know you can make money, and even a lot of money from niches that you know

        absolutely nothing about...but I know that when it's a niche that you have a personal

        interest in, or a passion for...that it makes you more knowledgeable and honest about

        the niche your in...allowing people to trust your opinions more cause you know your

        stuff...but like Kim Standerline stated... whatever it is you pick, focus focus focus, &

        $4,000 a month should be attainable...
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  • Profile picture of the author abednego
    Originally Posted by sulmaanaslam View Post

    Okay so i have this confusion what shall i do to make that much money?

    I know SEO. Should i Target Made for adsense site or cpa? If CPA then which offer?

    I know how to rank well. I have all the tools to drive traffic. I ranked my twilight article on 1st page after few hours of work. I want to capitalize on my knowledge and with the tools i have.

    I need an expert to guide me what will be the best option to make a killing if one can rank on 1st page.

    I need suggestions.
    Be meticulous about details. Double check everything.

    ie, your signature link doesn't even work
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    • Profile picture of the author sulmaanaslam
      Originally Posted by abednego View Post

      Be meticulous about details. Double check everything.

      ie, your signature link doesn't even work
      Perhaps i'd ask you to double check everything.

      It is working fine hahaha
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      • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
        Originally Posted by sulmaanaslam View Post

        Perhaps i'd ask you to double check everything.

        It is working fine hahaha
        It's not working for me either

        I think it might be because of location (you're in Pakistan, we're in US)
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          • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
            Originally Posted by obseerver View Post

            $4000 a month is lots of money in Pakistan. You will be rich.
            To be accurate it is 343200 Rupees.

            But you should keep in mind that it take lots of work to get there.
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        • Profile picture of the author Matt Morgan
          Build a list in a niche you are comfortable with, and provide value to this list.

          Then offer back end products to this list, and provide content to the list, as well as slowly promoting to them.

          You need to build quality traffic to them sites too, so your Search engine Optimization might come in handy.
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          • Profile picture of the author sulmaanaslam
            Originally Posted by Matt Morgan View Post

            Build a list in a niche you are comfortable with, and provide value to this list.

            Then offer back end products to this list, and provide content to the list, as well as slowly promoting to them.

            You need to build quality traffic to them sites too, so your Search engine Optimization might come in handy.

            Thanks Matt =) Will search for niche that suits me so that i can add valuable content to it
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    One thing you do need to do, (and this is fundamental) is focus on whatever you decide and not jump about from one project to another. It's the main mistake many people make

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    • Profile picture of the author BlazingSwitch
      Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

      One thing you do need to do, (and this is fundamental) is focus on whatever you decide and not jump about from one project to another. It's the main mistake many people make

      Kim
      Amen to that!

      So many people want to do three dozen projects half assed instead of ONE at 100%. Focus on one, optimize and maximize it before taking on another. Especially if you are new and starting out.
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  • Profile picture of the author sulmaanaslam
    Have a look at it again Afaq =)

    Hahaha well not really =p

    It is a lot of money if u are in Afghanistan.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
      Originally Posted by sulmaanaslam View Post

      Have a look at it again Afaq =)

      Hahaha well not really =p

      It is a lot of money if u are in Afghanistan.
      Now it's working.

      Also, $4000 is alot in Pakistan.

      EDIT: I spent two full months in Pakistan last year so I actually know something

      EDIT: 3 hundred and 43 thousand a month??? Isn't that enough
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  • Profile picture of the author sulmaanaslam
    Okay okay it is but see if you are determined and if you work hard then nothing is impossible =)
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    • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
      Originally Posted by sulmaanaslam View Post

      Okay okay it is but see if you are determined and if you work hard then nothing is impossible =)
      But I really think it would help if you would start with a realistic income goal.

      I mean, how about $400 a month. That is still around 34,000 rupees a month.

      It's better than most people.

      EDIT: Keep the 4000 a month on your list but take baby steps first. It really helps
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      • Profile picture of the author sulmaanaslam
        Originally Posted by Mohammad Afaq View Post

        But I really think it would help if you would start with a realistic income goal.

        I mean, how about $400 a month. That is still around 34,000 rupees a month.

        It's better than most people.

        EDIT: Keep the 4000 a month on your list but take baby steps first. It really helps

        Well i've crosses $100 mark in like 15 days so dont worry i will keep on working on my current project however i was looking for an idea to maximize the income utilizing my current SEO strategies
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          • Profile picture of the author theultimate1
            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            $4,000 per month represents just two sales per day of each of two different Clickbank products with earnings per sale of just over $30.
            WOW Alexa. You sure have a way with words. I'm talking about how you put things into perspective.

            Sulmaan, if you look at Alexa's post more closely, you'll see that she's giving out an entire business model (or a way to go about it) away; and that is the GENIUS part of it.

            Look at how it unfolds, REVERSE ENGINEERING style.

            (2 x $30) x 2 per day ---> 2 products, each paying $30 in commissions multiplied by 2 sales per day = $120 per day.

            30 days and you have $3600 per month.

            That is 2 sales per day (per niche, if you will). That's 60 sales per month. Let's be conservative and be good to the people on our mailing list(s). Let's assume we write 1 promo e-mail per month (Honestly, I don't think even this to be conservative, but the average seems to be wayyy higher than this) and we hit a conversion rate of 1%.

            All you would need is 6,000 people on your mailing list. If building a mailing list is what you might consider, target that mighty number of 6,000. But don't stop there. There will be refunds, people opting-out of your list(s) - These are factors we haven't counted in as yet. But once you have a list of 6,000 and if you know how to monetise it well, it's only a matter of scaling things up... While $4K a month is very good money in Pakistan (and here in India as well), $40K is AMAZING too. All The Best
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            • Profile picture of the author ElMundodelExito
              Originally Posted by theultimate1 View Post


              All you would need is 6,000 people on your mailing list. If building a mailing list is what you might consider, target that mighty number of 6,000.
              Is this true? you only need 6000 subscribers to make $4000 a month?
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              • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
                You should really be thinking about how you can deliver genuine value to others.

                If you're delivering $16,000 in value to other people in a month then charging $4,000 won't be too hard.

                SEO is like the gateway...you get people to come to a site or a page but who are they, where are you going to send them and how can you be sure you can deliver value to them?

                In some cases you might partner with someone else and take a fee of some kind (CPA) or you might charge other internet or offline businesses for your SEO services (again if you're delivering enough quality traffic to them...providing real value...then they're going to be happy to pay you).

                Or you might focus in on promoting a product or series of products with a serious affiliate commission.

                If you do that you'll probably want to build an email list of your own so you can follow up with them.

                And of course be sure that whatever product you promote does deliver real value to the people who buy it.

                Either way at present you're heavily focused on what you can get ($4,000 a month) instead of being focused on what you can give.

                Shifting to the second mindset (how can I give value) makes it a whole lot easier to make money.


                One final tip:

                $4,000 a month is $135 a day.

                Breaking your goal into smaller chunks often makes it easier to see solutions.

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              • Profile picture of the author Martin Avis
                Originally Posted by ElMundodelExito View Post

                Is this true? you only need 6000 subscribers to make $4000 a month?
                Yes it is true - and a lot more. If you have a list that trusts you and looks forward to reading what you have to say. Learn how to communicate with your list correctly and 6000 subscribers will give you an easy 6-figure income.

                But ... and here is the harsh reality ... treat your list like dirt (as so many marketers try to do) and it won't matter how many subscribers you have: you'll struggle to make much from them at all.

                Everyone is so quick to dish out the advise that 'the money is in the list', but very few people teach how to build a profitable and mutually enjoyable relationship with your list.

                Here is a hint: it isn't enough to send them a copied and pasted email sales pitch once a week.

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                • Profile picture of the author ElMundodelExito
                  Originally Posted by Martin.Avis View Post

                  Yes it is true - and a lot more. If you have a list that trusts you and looks forward to reading what you have to say. Learn how to communicate with your list correctly and 6000 subscribers will give you an easy 6-figure income.

                  But ... and here is the harsh reality ... treat your list like dirt (as so many marketers try to do) and it won't matter how many subscribers you have: you'll struggle to make much from them at all.

                  Everyone is so quick to dish out the advise that 'the money is in the list', but very few people teach how to build a profitable and mutually enjoyable relationship with your list.

                  Here is a hint: it isn't enough to send them a copied and pasted email sales pitch once a week.

                  Martin
                  I appreciate you answer, I just ask because my list is almost 5000 and I do not make anywhere near that amount.
                  Thanks
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                  • Profile picture of the author theultimate1
                    Originally Posted by ElMundodelExito View Post

                    I appreciate you answer, I just ask because my list is almost 5000 and I do not make anywhere near that amount.
                    Thanks
                    Hi,

                    Going by Alexa's suggestion and how I broke it down, a mailing list of 6,000 can make you $1800. Two such lists can make you $3600 (or $4,000, depending on the commission per sale).

                    As for your present list of 5,000, try monetising by creating your own $1 product. Don't announce the price yet. Offer a free report and mention that you have something bigger and dandier in the works. Offer so much value in the free report (or a series of reports/articles/videos) that people are ready to know more about the launch itself, and are thinking that your product will be somewhere way above $100. And then, on launch day, you announce... $1 (or $7, if you will). See how well you convert. That should give you a fair idea of how good your list is. You'll be able to move ahead from there then.

                    Michael Cheney did the same when he launched Delta Squadron sometime last year. Too much pre-launch activity and suddenly he says $1 (for the first month, then $97 per month). I, for one, was flabbergasted by that one. I'm sure it did well for him. You don't necessarily need to do a continuity program... or you can, but offer it in the back-end after you've got that $1 (in exchange of some real value, of course). See how much the back-end converts at. That gives you a better idea of the kind of people you have on your list. Then, after that first sale, get interactive. Talk to a few of them. Don't, and I repeat (suggest, actually)... DON'T pitch them another product almost immediately. Instead, follow up and if you deem it fit, push them to take action. Sure $1 isn't a lot of money... but you're building on the trust factor and you're getting to know your list better. Plus, I would think the $1 launch could bring you a good $500 (I know 10% is too high a conversion rate, but if you've offered genuine value before your launch and got them hooked to your mails (which you can track by checking your mail open rate and e-mail link click through rate, by the way), it shouldn't be impossible.

                    $4,000, from there, shouldn't be difficult, methinks... All The Best
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  • Profile picture of the author TristanPerry
    This might be a long-ish post. I hope it reads well and isn't disjointed etc. Plus I don't mean any of this in a bad way, by the way Anywhoo, the best guide you can ever have (and this is for free, too ) is as follows:

    1) Get a good idea, and research it to make sure it's not a pipedream

    2) Work very hard to implement and maintain that idea

    And as said above, don't change from idea to idea. </end of guide>


    Without wanting to sound ackward though, you say that you want to earn a fairly sizeable amount of money, and that you have the relevant skills. But you also say that you need someone to tell you exactly what to do.

    Surely (and I mean this in a good way) if you want to earn a fairly big amount of cash and have the relevant skills, you won't need "an expert" to tell you exactly what to do?

    Personally if I wanted to make that much cash, I'd ensure that I knew most of the skills I'd need in advance, and then do it myself. Having to keep asking "an expert" for a guide would probably slow you down. Plus if someone was going to show you exactly how to earn $4,000 per month, I'd assume:

    1) That they'd be earning much more than $4,000 per month
    2) They'd therefore want a pretty big helpers fee/commission etc

    And if you already know the skills you need, why would you pay someone a potentially massive helpers fee/commission to tell you what you already know? (I.e. since you've said you already have the skills you need)

    (And as a quick FYI: the reason I say "an expert" is because you don't need to be an expert to make websites, nor do you need to be an expert to be good at SEO. And all you are really asking about is making websites and SEOing them to get $4,000 per month, thus it doesn't really sound like you need "an expert" )

    Anywhoo, for what it's worth: if I was wanting to make $4,000 per month from a website development point of view (since you are mentioning SEO), I'd probably roughly do the following; this is from a web developers point of view, not a IMers point of view by the way

    1) Plan to make one big website (at least at first) on a particular topic

    2) Thus I'd research a bunch of keywords and topics, and find a topic/niche which I could make a big, authority site from

    3) I'd also be sure that the topic I choose is free from potential legal problems, i.e. I couldn't get into trouble for selling products related to the site (an example of a no-go topic would be a site based around another company's intellectual property, e.g. a site based around Lord of the Rings might be a no-go since you couldn't sell products since you don't hold the IP for LotR)

    4) Once I've found a topic which is 'free' from legal issues and thus allows me to create and sell products (e.g. e-books) via the website, I'd get to work on setting up the website

    5) I'd aim to add dozens of pages of good content (focusing roughly on keywords, but not keyword stuff)

    6) I'd then start SEOing and driving good traffic to the site (by good traffic I mean traffic which will return, not simply 'targetted' traffic). Perhaps adding a message boards could help with keeping people coming back

    7) Once traffic starts coming, I'd put up some adverts (but not too many), and also get to work on coming up with products (e.g. e-books) which could be sold

    8) Keep repeating the above (i.e. hard work, driving good traffic to site, SEOing, adding good content/articles, creating e-books etc) until traffic and revenue rises to your desired level

    Clearly this 8-step 'guide' is fairly rough - and from a web development not IMer point of view - although it's what I'd do to make an authority site which has a good income level.

    The main point of all of this, though, is: hard work is key.

    I hope this post helps and doesn't seem like I'm being ackward. As I say, if you truly have the necessary skills and are willing to work hard, you won't need "an expert" to give you an exact step-by-step guide

    Best of luck with whatever route you take!
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    • Profile picture of the author Martin Avis
      Why are people so intent on telling this guy that $4000 a month is a lot of money in his country?

      So what?

      When you make money online it doesn't really matter (payment processors allowing) where you are, the money you make is the same.

      So is $4000 a lot in the US or the UK?

      Not in my book.

      If my accountant saw my earnings drop that low she'd probably advise me to wind my business up and go get a real job!

      Of course he can make $4000 a month. Don't let the average earnings in any particular part of the world cloud that truth.

      It is only $133 per day. Focus on what you need to do to make that. Create a product, build a list, write product review websites, don't ask us what you should do because we are not inside your head. No one method is right or wrong and we can't tell you which way of making money online will suit your talents and temperament.

      Just don't see the $133 per day as the target you have to aim for. It isn't. It is just a sign in the road that you will soon drive past.

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      • Profile picture of the author TimG
        Originally Posted by Martin.Avis View Post

        Why are people so intent on telling this guy that $4000 a month is a lot of money in his country?

        So what?

        When you make money online it doesn't really matter (payment processors allowing) where you are, the money you make is the same.

        So is $4000 a lot in the US or the UK?

        Not in my book.

        If my accountant saw my earnings drop that low she'd probably advise me to wind my business up and go get a real job!

        Of course he can make $4000 a month. Don't let the average earnings in any particular part of the world cloud that truth.

        It is only $133 per day. Focus on what you need to do to make that. Create a product, build a list, write product review websites, don't ask us what you should do because we are not inside your head. No one method is right or wrong and we can't tell you which way of making money online will suit your talents and temperament.

        Just don't see the $133 per day as the target you have to aim for. It isn't. It is just a sign in the road that you will soon drive past.

        Martin
        Well said Martin.....sorta falls inline with the proper mindset in terms of developing an income stream. Far to many folks tell themselves they can't make a certain amount each month.

        Instead, they should be taking a different viewpoint and focus on what they can do to make a specific amount each month.

        It's amazing what our mind will allow us to accomplish once we free it from the mental shackles that we have put in place.

        Respectfully,
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    • Profile picture of the author sulmaanaslam
      Originally Posted by TristanPerry View Post

      This might be a long-ish post. I hope it reads well and isn't disjointed etc. Plus I don't mean any of this in a bad way, by the way Anywhoo, the best guide you can ever have (and this is for free, too ) is as follows:

      1) Get a good idea, and research it to make sure it's not a pipedream

      2) Work very hard to implement and maintain that idea

      And as said above, don't change from idea to idea. </end of guide>


      Without wanting to sound ackward though, you say that you want to earn a fairly sizeable amount of money, and that you have the relevant skills. But you also say that you need someone to tell you exactly what to do.

      Surely (and I mean this in a good way) if you want to earn a fairly big amount of cash and have the relevant skills, you won't need "an expert" to tell you exactly what to do?

      Personally if I wanted to make that much cash, I'd ensure that I knew most of the skills I'd need in advance, and then do it myself. Having to keep asking "an expert" for a guide would probably slow you down. Plus if someone was going to show you exactly how to earn $4,000 per month, I'd assume:

      1) That they'd be earning much more than $4,000 per month
      2) They'd therefore want a pretty big helpers fee/commission etc

      And if you already know the skills you need, why would you pay someone a potentially massive helpers fee/commission to tell you what you already know? (I.e. since you've said you already have the skills you need)

      (And as a quick FYI: the reason I say "an expert" is because you don't need to be an expert to make websites, nor do you need to be an expert to be good at SEO. And all you are really asking about is making websites and SEOing them to get $4,000 per month, thus it doesn't really sound like you need "an expert" )

      Anywhoo, for what it's worth: if I was wanting to make $4,000 per month from a website development point of view (since you are mentioning SEO), I'd probably roughly do the following; this is from a web developers point of view, not a IMers point of view by the way

      1) Plan to make one big website (at least at first) on a particular topic

      2) Thus I'd research a bunch of keywords and topics, and find a topic/niche which I could make a big, authority site from

      3) I'd also be sure that the topic I choose is free from potential legal problems, i.e. I couldn't get into trouble for selling products related to the site (an example of a no-go topic would be a site based around another company's intellectual property, e.g. a site based around Lord of the Rings might be a no-go since you couldn't sell products since you don't hold the IP for LotR)

      4) Once I've found a topic which is 'free' from legal issues and thus allows me to create and sell products (e.g. e-books) via the website, I'd get to work on setting up the website

      5) I'd aim to add dozens of pages of good content (focusing roughly on keywords, but not keyword stuff)

      6) I'd then start SEOing and driving good traffic to the site (by good traffic I mean traffic which will return, not simply 'targetted' traffic). Perhaps adding a message boards could help with keeping people coming back

      7) Once traffic starts coming, I'd put up some adverts (but not too many), and also get to work on coming up with products (e.g. e-books) which could be sold

      8) Keep repeating the above (i.e. hard work, driving good traffic to site, SEOing, adding good content/articles, creating e-books etc) until traffic and revenue rises to your desired level

      Clearly this 8-step 'guide' is fairly rough - and from a web development not IMer point of view - although it's what I'd do to make an authority site which has a good income level.

      The main point of all of this, though, is: hard work is key.

      I hope this post helps and doesn't seem like I'm being ackward. As I say, if you truly have the necessary skills and are willing to work hard, you won't need "an expert" to give you an exact step-by-step guide

      Best of luck with whatever route you take!
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        Originally Posted by sulmaanaslam View Post

        Thankyou will note down the advice
        You're welcome As I say, for me (as someone who got into web development before IM), the steps I've outlined would be best for me. However it might be the case that a more IM method would be best for you, which obviously if fine too

        The one constant in whatever method you choose though, is having a good idea and putting in hard work
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  • Profile picture of the author caobosco
    you know how rank well ,you have the tools to drive traffic?Can you share? I am really struggling now
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    • Profile picture of the author alex900
      To earn $4000 a month or more you need a list of customers who trust you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    Why are people so intent on telling this guy that $4000 a month is a lot of money in his country?

    So what?
    First of all, read what I posted:

    But I really think it would help if you would start with a realistic income goal.

    I mean, how about $400 a month. That is still around 34,000 rupees a month.

    It's better than most people.

    EDIT: Keep the 4000 a month on your list but take baby steps first. It really helps
    Now, I really didn't mean to tell him he can't make 4k a month online but instead I was advising him to set small milestones.
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  • Profile picture of the author DrFresh
    If you already know SEO.. I'd find low competition keywords with around 5k or more searches, rank the crap out of them for it's main term + LSI, monetize with adsense and CPA. Doesn't need to be about the offer either, just anything that gets searches. Start building an adsense empire man, wish I didn't get banned when I was a noob..
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  • Profile picture of the author tristen
    Since you're very experience in SEO. Why don't you start building your own online virtual real estates such as blogs, Adsense sites.

    Furthermore, List building is the fastest & consistent method for you to earn more than $4000 every month consistently.
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  • Profile picture of the author ASCW
    Since it seems that driving traffic and optimizing and ranking webpages is something you are already very good at, why don't you just go with that?

    Look for offline clients (or online, whatever) and do their seo for them, and in between clients and other downtime rank small niche blogs and flip them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Venturetothetop
    Here is some advice - your Ipad site, infringes heavily on Apple's copyrights. If your serious about making money, drop it or change the design, as your asking for trouble in the long run. Your Twilight site is also illegal, read the news, USA shut down loads of these sites a few weeks ago, and is trying to get them all down.

    Get yourself a mentor who has the life you want and can teach ethics. You claim to have skills, but your sites are showing a little lack of judgement, and it's looks like 'im here to make quick money and not build a relationship' type marketing. Which is why you would never make it to my coaching programs (unless you could show me you stopped all that)

    Sorry if that is harsh, but it's true.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
      And therein lies a problem many newbie marketers make (infringing copyright)

      You can download some very cool free IPAD graphics if you google the term. it's what we used when selling an Ipad themed wso a couple of months ago

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      Originally Posted by Venturetothetop View Post

      Here is some advice - your Ipad site, infringes heavily on Apple's copyrights. If your serious about making money, drop it or change the design, as your asking for trouble in the long run. Your Twilight site is also illegal, read the news, USA shut down loads of these sites a few weeks ago, and is trying to get them all down.

      Get yourself a mentor who has the life you want and can teach ethics. You claim to have skills, but your sites are showing a little lack of judgement, and it's looks like 'im here to make quick money and not build a relationship' type marketing. Which is why you would never make it to my coaching programs (unless you could show me you stopped all that)

      Sorry if that is harsh, but it's true.
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    • Profile picture of the author sulmaanaslam
      Originally Posted by Venturetothetop View Post

      Here is some advice - your Ipad site, infringes heavily on Apple's copyrights. If your serious about making money, drop it or change the design, as your asking for trouble in the long run. Your Twilight site is also illegal, read the news, USA shut down loads of these sites a few weeks ago, and is trying to get them all down.

      Get yourself a mentor who has the life you want and can teach ethics. You claim to have skills, but your sites are showing a little lack of judgement, and it's looks like 'im here to make quick money and not build a relationship' type marketing. Which is why you would never make it to my coaching programs (unless you could show me you stopped all that)

      Sorry if that is harsh, but it's true.
      Well i think Pageline themes provider should be liable as im just using the theme which they are offering i didnt design it by myself so yeah =p
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  • Profile picture of the author medosabry
    All you want is one page, one good keyword, one product, #1 spot in google

    If you can rank for highly searched keywords then promote clickbank products and you will make this amount of money.

    The right SEO technique can make you rank for any keyword you want

    The keyword you are ranking for with the articlesbase article receive only 58 searches per month, you need to choose the right keyword before doing anything and make sure it is very relevant to the product you are promoting e.g. if your product is about "losing thigh fat" your keyword may be something like "How to lose thigh fat" according to google keyword tool this keyword receive 14,800 searches per month and 9 of the pages ranking in the first page of google receive less than 500 link (so only need quality 500 links to rank in the first page) and if you are promoting a product very related to it (i think there is one on clickbank) you can make a lot of sales per month with one article.

    Best wishes,

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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    A viral marketing strategy could easily bring in $4000 a month. Alternatively article marketing with massive action could work.
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  • Profile picture of the author catasoft
    Thanks Martin for your optimistic and straightforward advices
    I guess I see 3 options for the 4000$ target:

    1)Products- get 1-2-3 products, build 1 blog/site (later others) laser targetted and reach for 130/day with all of them

    2)Continuity- if you're really good at something, offer a continual service (or maybe microc-continuity)- but I presume this is not what you had in mind, since it requires a little experience with setting up such systems

    3)List- build list, build relation to list, offer value, brand yourself, and every now and then send affiliate links to them. Transparency is the key.

    The key, as some of the guys said, is constancy, stay with the chosen niche until the initial difficulties pass so that you can enjoy the later success.
    SEO is the strategy of patience, even though se's have been every time faster in indexing and re-positioning pages.

    Money as an initial target is good and nice, but the important thing is to Build a Business, and have fun running it. I personally don't believe in the "chasing the gold" race, guru race or whatever: just a nice living, which allows one to do that which s/he is passionate about, and earn a nice living while doing that.
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  • Profile picture of the author AylaPress
    Decent niche and "stick-to-itness" to make 4K per month. Git-R-Done
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  • Profile picture of the author Brenden Clerget
    In my mind it takes a lot of dedication. It's a path to making money online that many people don't want to take. They want that one answer, or click and go method. Unfortunately there aren't many, if any of those, out there.

    You just have to want to succeed. If you desire enough and can learn to set goals effectively then over time you will see your results start to improve.

    As your results improve your motivation increases.

    As motivation increases, productivity does.

    Productivity = Profit.

    Formula for success
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Isnt that what facebook is? I have a friend who started a "legalize marijuana" fan page... and effortlessly achieved 75,000 friends in virtually 90 days... I would think he could easily monetize that... I think he's starting to post amazon links to books now and stuff.

    Oh I guess that post got cut... in any event I believe the term is "social marketing".... really interesting field... Im sure alot of people make money with it here.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brenden Clerget
    Definitely could monetize that.

    Sell informational products on the "Truth Behind The 'Drug'" and watch the money roll in. 75k in 90 days? Sheesh, easy game.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Durham
      Originally Posted by DrivenForMillions View Post

      Definitely could monetize that.

      Sell informational products on the "Truth Behind The 'Drug'" and watch the money roll in. 75k in 90 days? Sheesh, easy game.
      Or sell legal herbal alternatives...
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Yeah its amazing. I have another friend with a facebook page that caters to actors and actresses... he's got a ton of friends too... it amazes me how those things grow. Im tempted to start one... it just seems to good to be true.
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    • Profile picture of the author mcampbell075
      Originally Posted by kadensnga View Post

      Yeah its amazing. I have another friend with a facebook page that caters to actors and actresses... he's got a ton of friends too... it amazes me how those things grow. Im tempted to start one... it just seems to good to be true.
      I also want to try this but I wondered if facebook is strict with this. Like what twitter does in versifying accounts to all actor and actress? And what if those celebrities claim it or banned it? Is it safe?
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      • Profile picture of the author John Durham
        Originally Posted by mcampbell075 View Post

        I also want to try this but I wondered if facebook is strict with this. Like what twitter does in versifying accounts to all actor and actress? And what if those celebrities claim it or banned it? Is it safe?
        Well what I meant to say is that my friend is actually an actor... he plays the star role in several country music videos and also American Airlines commercials... he also played a part in the movie "The green mile"...so he has attracted thousands of actor friends on facebook as they all share common interest, casting calls... Im thinking he could monetize it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dayne Dylan
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    Give this a read, and this is for $100k a year...

    http://www.warriorforum.com/ad-netwo...bers-game.html
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  • Profile picture of the author halfbakedrew
    if I had a list of like, lets say 20,000. would it be better to sell the list or to just work the list?
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    • Profile picture of the author John Durham
      Originally Posted by halfbakedrew View Post

      if I had a list of like, lets say 20,000. would it be better to sell the list or to just work the list?
      depends on the list, how targeted and how well kept ie; "have they been burned, disapoinrted or mishandled"? Are the "buyers"?
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  • Profile picture of the author halfbakedrew
    i keep them vary happy with new info all the time,dont always send them to pages to buy things too soo they know I dont just send junk...the niche is a money maker.i only make like a 1000 every two moths so far, from them. so thinking to sell just not sure what to selll something like this for?
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