What makes someone and Expert or Guru?

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I'm both facinated and perplexed by the number of 'experts' I see everyday. It doesn't matter whether I turn on the TV or logon to the net, it seems like I'm surround by 'experts.' After seeing all these things it made me think back to my childhood on what an expert is.

I will leave you with the words of my late great mentor I gave in an interview I had with a reporter from the Asian Wall Street Journal when they wanted to promote me as and interview me as an 'expert' in the field of Product Development in Asia. I've never liked the word 'expert' or 'guru' because I have met very few people that truly have those qualities. I've met a lot of skilled marketers who are good at marketing themselves, but lacked true expertise.

I formed this opinion at the tender age of 17 while being mentored by the late great Stanley Reiter (those that are in the legal field or live in NY knows that Mr. Reiter was one of the great trial lawyers who died far to young unexpectedly). At 17 while applying to colleges we had a nice lunch and he asked me a question that would forever change my thought process on an 'expert.' He asked me if I knew what field of law I wanted to pratice in. I told him my goal was to be an expert in the field of corporate law specializing in M&A for pacific rim countries. He asked me if I knew what an expert was. I told him 'An expert is someone who is extremely knowledgeable in their field.' He smiled (I'm sure at my youthful understanding).

This is what he told me: 'Expertise is not someone who acquires knowledge; you can go to the library and read books and acquire knowledge...expertise is the application and understanding of the knowledge you obtained; in a way that benefits all of those that come in contact with you." He then told me "It's better that you remain a student...because learning is a never ending process. Those that claim expertise have essentially said 'I've learned enough' and have nothing left to learn. These are people who are usually on their way out."

Finally..On how he told me to evaluate an expert: "If you ever truly want to know who an expert is in any field go to their peers and ask them. ie., go to the cardiologist and ask him if he needed a heart transplant and he would die without it, who would he want to perform it? Go to the lawyer and say, you've been accused of murder in a state that has the death penalty, who do you want to represent you? Go to the accountant and ask him, you just received a letter from the IRS that you're going to be audited, whom would you call to get you through the audit? An expert is not someone who claims they're an expert, but it's the person(s) whom in their field, their peers defer to in a time of need."

That was great advice then, and even better now. I've realized over and over that experts are not on TV, they're in their field developing, honing, and testing their craft!

I also dedicated myself to being a 'student' in business, marketing, and in life.

Tell me what do you think makes someone an expert?
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Preuss
    Originally Posted by obiswill View Post

    I will leave you with the words of my late great mentor I gave in an interview I had with a reporter from the Asian Wall Street Journal...

    This is what he told me: 'Expertise is not someone who acquires knowledge; you can go to the library and read books and acquire knowledge...expertise is the application and understanding of the knowledge you obtained; in a way that benefits all of those that come in contact with you." He then told me "It's better that you remain a student...because learning is a never ending process. Those that claim expertise have essentially said 'I've learned enough' and have nothing left to learn. These are people who are usually on their way out."
    Fascinating topic - one that I thoroughly enjoy discussing.

    In our global society there are usually two sides of the coin when it comes to "experts":

    1) The amount of knowledge/expertise possessed by the individual

    2) The perception of the amount of knowledge/expertise possessed by the individual

    There is a fundamental difference between the two. I dare say that most of the time perception trumps reality. Why is this?

    In my estimation the main reason is that most people are looking outside of themselves for answers. It's always been human nature to want to be led - led by someone, something, some idea or ideology....whatever it may be.

    When you study the way future experts are currently being trained, the list usually looks something like this:

    1) Identify a field where you want to be an expert
    2) Call yourself an expert in that field - don't wait to be called one, do it yourself
    3) Write a book - most experts have written books (ahem, many have had them ghostwritten)
    4) Use multiple kinds of media to get your message out there - this creates "proof" that you are indeed an expert

    So it's become a game of perception and positioning.

    I'm not saying this is right or wrong, I'm just noting how "expert creation" is currently practiced by the majority of today's world.

    This truly is a fascinating topic.

    Ken
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  • Profile picture of the author Chuck Evans
    Expertise is not someone who acquires knowledge; you can go to the library and read books and acquire knowledge...expertise is the application and understanding of the knowledge you obtained; in a way that benefits all of those that come in contact with you." He then told me "It's better that you remain a student...because learning is a never ending process. Those that claim expertise have essentially said 'I've learned enough' and have nothing left to learn. These are people who are usually on their way out."
    Precisely! The minute you stop learning you die! The other part of the post about asking someone in YOUR field who THEY would go to is invaluable also.

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    • Profile picture of the author Ricter
      Originally Posted by Chuck Evans View Post

      Precisely! The minute you stop learning you die! The other part of the post about asking someone in YOUR field who THEY would go to is invaluable also.

      chuck
      You probably mean net learning, Chuck. I'm still learning, but my forgetting is rapidly catching up.

      Anyway, it's fun to goof around with the merely perceptual side of expertise, until you need someone to remove a tumor from beside your spine. Then you want a real expert. The idea of peer review comes to mind.
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  • Profile picture of the author obiswill
    Unfortunately Ken you're right. A lot of it has to do with perception and your pathway to 'experise' is comically classic. You've just provided the blueprint for the next 'Expert.' I've been amused as I've watched with wonderment the current financial crisis. For the better part of 10 years I've been living and working in Asia. I went there during the height of the Asian Financial Crisis and I have to admit that returning to the USA I see things that are errily familiar here.

    More importantly I have a good friend of mine that is a Certified Financial Planner who has been annoyed with all these TV experts and their half baked advice. He's annoyed because his clients watch these TV shows and radio programs, and then come to visit him and attempt to contradict him with advice they just got from the TV or radio. What makes me laugh is that these idiots on TV are now openly admiting they don't know what's going on.

    To me this is classic...Because anybody in the financial industry has predicted this 3-4 years ago. I sold my 2 homes in the USA in 2005 at what was the tiptop of the RE industry. My wife was a little concerned that I sold both homes. I told her don't worry, by the end of 2008 we'll come back to the USA and buy twice a big a house at half the cost. Last month I did exactly that.

    Anytime you use phantom money to buy real things, the market will crash. It's not a question of if, only a question of when. I simply wish more people would not have relied so heavily on 'experts' and they wouldn't have lost so much money. But then again...if they simply read they wouldn't have lost so much also.
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