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Squidoo lens suddenly de-indexed!!!

by Calamaroo
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I had a squidoo lens that just made it to number 1 on Google. It had hyphens in the url. I made another one similar to it but not exactly like it but this time with no hyphens. From the same squidoo account.

Suddenly, I can't see either lenses on google. Is this normal? Should I just wait? Or is my lens screwed?

I did the "site:" search on google and it says its not even indexed.

Should I delete the other lens and keep only one?
#deindexed #lens #squidoo #suddenly
  • Profile picture of the author LilBlackDress
    Did it get locked by the Squid?
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    • Profile picture of the author Calamaroo
      Originally Posted by LilBlackDress View Post

      Did it get locked by the Squid?
      No. Both lenses are alive and well. I don't think I broke Terms and Conditions.

      I just published the non-hyphenated lens last night. And when I went to google this morning, neither lens was on google for the keyword. The one that was ranked number one just yesterday is gone.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
    any time you post something "new" to a site, it ranks well because it's link will show up on very prominent pages of the site that give it a 'link juice' boost (a "recent posts" page, a 'tags' page, etc). Once your page get's pushed off of that by newer posts, it can often drop in the serp's. This could be what you are experiencing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Calamaroo
      Originally Posted by jasonl70 View Post

      any time you post something "new" to a site, it ranks well because it's link will show up on very prominent pages of the site that give it a 'link juice' boost (a "recent posts" page, a 'tags' page, etc). Once your page get's pushed off of that by newer posts, it can often drop in the serp's. This could be what you are experiencing.
      So you think that the fact that I opened a similar squdoo lens (but without hyphens) using the same squidoo account has nothing to do with it? This is my primary concern. Maybe, google thinks its spamming to do so or maybe its a duplicate content issue and now I'm penalized?
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  • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
    I got away from Squidoo a long time ago, are they still ranking pretty well?
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  • Profile picture of the author mlord10
    I wish I had some good news for you, but unfortunately I have discussed this issue with a lot of internet marketers, and lenses are in fact getting de-indexed for seemingly no reason.

    I haven't used Squidoo in a long time, because I think you can accomplish just as much with Blogger, and I haven't had any problems with them.
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    • Profile picture of the author Domenic Carlson
      I think the reason for this was covered already. However, do you mean it was de-indexed, or simply dropped from the first page?
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      • Profile picture of the author Calamaroo
        Originally Posted by Domenic Carlson View Post

        I think the reason for this was covered already. However, do you mean it was de-indexed, or simply dropped from the first page?
        Gone with the wind. Wiped out from the face of the earth. Vanished.

        What could be the reason? Punishment for having two squidoo lenses that are similar, except that one uses hyphens to separate the words and one doesn't?
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  • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
    Having two lenses with similar URLs will not cause the lens to get de-indexed. While I don't create lenses with the same URL, I will create a lens with the same URL as someone else if it's a keyword I wanted for my niche and if I think I can outrank the other lens.

    In many cases, both my lens and the other lens will show up as double listings in Google as 2 pages of the same domain can show up in Google results on the 1st page.

    A lot depends on the age of your 1st lens, backlinks, etc. Chances are that your 1st lens is just getting shuffled for some change or other and will show up again in a few days.

    If it doesn't, build some more backlinks to the lens, make sure you've submitted your lensmaster and lens RSS feeds to RSS sites, and go in and tweak the content of your 1st lens. Add another paragraph or so to keep it fresh and then see what happens.

    Originally Posted by Marhelper View Post

    I got away from Squidoo a long time ago, are they still ranking pretty well?
    Marhelper - Squidoo sometimes gets a bad rep from other Warriors mostly because of the change in their TOS that disallows a number of IM topics and popular CB type products.

    However, I LOVE Squidoo for promotion of websites in non-IM niches. Lenses done as product reviews or informative lenses built to backlink your own sites do really well in Google. They also build up PR pretty nicely which can give you a set of properties to use for backlinks to your other projects.

    It does help, I think, to have made Giant status in Squidoo as the restrictions are fewer and you get a few extra lens building tools that make it easier to build lenses more quickly.
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    • Profile picture of the author genietoast
      I thought putting virtually the exact same content on the same IP address (Squidoo) is considered duplicate content. I can see Google de-indexing for that.

      But if you wrote two Squidoo lenses and wrote aboutt he same exact topic but worded it differently than the other by at least 20%, then that shouldn't be an issue.
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by Sojourn View Post

      Having two lenses with similar URLs will not cause the lens to get de-indexed. While I don't create lenses with the same URL, I will create a lens with the same URL as someone else if it's a keyword I wanted for my niche and if I think I can outrank the other lens.

      In many cases, both my lens and the other lens will show up as double listings in Google as 2 pages of the same domain can show up in Google results on the 1st page.

      A lot depends on the age of your 1st lens, backlinks, etc. Chances are that your 1st lens is just getting shuffled for some change or other and will show up again in a few days.

      If it doesn't, build some more backlinks to the lens, make sure you've submitted your lensmaster and lens RSS feeds to RSS sites, and go in and tweak the content of your 1st lens. Add another paragraph or so to keep it fresh and then see what happens.


      Marhelper - Squidoo sometimes gets a bad rep from other Warriors mostly because of the change in their TOS that disallows a number of IM topics and popular CB type products.

      However, I LOVE Squidoo for promotion of websites in non-IM niches. Lenses done as product reviews or informative lenses built to backlink your own sites do really well in Google. They also build up PR pretty nicely which can give you a set of properties to use for backlinks to your other projects.

      It does help, I think, to have made Giant status in Squidoo as the restrictions are fewer and you get a few extra lens building tools that make it easier to build lenses more quickly.
      In the best interest of the longterm growth and viability of their site, this IS important, even though I know it has made alot of people unhappy....it's a thin line...a 'necessary evil'....
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  • Profile picture of the author Calamaroo
    I've been doing some research and my conclusion is that I've been frickin' sandboxed.

    How do I get out of this predicament? Did my starting the second lens trigger some sandbox trip wires or something?
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    • Profile picture of the author Intrepreneur
      Originally Posted by Calamaroo View Post

      I've been doing some research and my conclusion is that I've been frickin' sandboxed.

      How do I get out of this predicament? Did my starting the second lens trigger some sandbox trip wires or something?
      No sandbox.

      It's called Google.

      They do these things and if you wait they come back.

      Don't worry yourself too much about it and in a few days you'll see it come back.

      Alywas good to search the exact URL too in a few days if it hasn't returned to the top and if not then it's time to backlink it if you really need it to go back there.

      Also if you're battling against exact match domains on some sort of xtreme low competition keywords then just give up cos they'll never go away.

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      • Profile picture of the author higginb3
        Originally Posted by Intrepreneur View Post


        Also if you're battling against exact match domains on some sort of xtreme low competition keywords then just give up cos they'll never go away.

        I was thinking that google doesn't give preference to exact match domains anymore?
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        • Profile picture of the author Intrepreneur
          Originally Posted by higginb3 View Post

          I was thinking that google doesn't give preference to exact match domains anymore?
          Not true. They always will as long as EMD's are weighted any way at all and they are still weighted.

          However this is more so the case in extreme low competition keywords. Like clickbank products.

          Type in bla bla review. You'll see many EMD's for many of the products.

          And to say why they still do it' because if they didn't weight them then large companies with products out there that are obviously going to have an EMD have to rank first for their product/company name and what better way for Google to ensure this than to weight the domains quite heavily.

          Your site tis an example: http://www.google.com/search?q=my+ma..._en-GB___GB365

          And offline marketing keyword has two EMD's at the top.

          Go into more competitive keywords and it's not always the same unless the company has a high reputation or really good SEO skills.

          For example: http://www.androidcentral.com/ ranks on the first page for Android.
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      • Profile picture of the author Calamaroo
        Originally Posted by Intrepreneur View Post

        No sandbox.

        It's called Google.

        They do these things and if you wait they come back.

        Don't worry yourself too much about it and in a few days you'll see it come back.

        Alywas good to search the exact URL too in a few days if it hasn't returned to the top and if not then it's time to backlink it if you really need it to go back there.

        Also if you're battling against exact match domains on some sort of xtreme low competition keywords then just give up cos they'll never go away.
        Back on top of page one. Thanks to you, and thanks to all.

        Now if I can just convert.
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  • Profile picture of the author ApaOps5
    I read on in an ebook on Squidoo that google only indexes 2 lenses on squidoo for a certain keyword.

    It was a result of the Google Slap on Squidoo a while back. Again I read this in an Ebook and am trying to find a link for you with the same information. But maybe google found another lens that it thinks is more authoritative.
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    • Profile picture of the author thefluffanutta
      Originally Posted by ApaOps5 View Post

      I read on in an ebook on Squidoo that google only indexes 2 lenses on squidoo for a certain keyword.
      Not true. Google will indexed all the lenses it finds (via backlinks, etc), but will only show 2 or 3 lenses in the results for a particular search term. For different search terms, different lenses will appear. This is the same for any other website too.

      As for the original poster's question: keep promoting your lenses, and building other new ones, and they will come back into the SERPs. Linking your related lenses together and picking good tags can really help you.
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