Beginners: You CAN Make Money.. (Here's How, In 5 Steps)

by sirtom
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Hey all,

I've been seeing a lot of the posts and conversations lately, and decided to make this post almost as a refresher, mainly for beginners. (FYI- To me, a beginner is someone who isn't making money online, or not very much. Sometimes I get this "I've been online for 3 years!", but at the end of the day, if you're not doing what you're here to do-- make money-- then you're still a "beginner".)

With all these launches going on and buzz surrounding new things every day, it's SO easy to get lost in the confusion, especially for people just looking for something to help them get off that "square one". Maybe that's getting their first sale online, cracking their first $100 day, or even their first $1,000 day.

You get lost in the confusion. That's where I found myself many many times over, and when I did, here's what I made myself do: go back to the basics.

So, what I'm going to tell you here is just that. Forget the new course on whatever and stop reading all the hype emails you get (and I know you get as many as I do). Just stick to the basics, which work WAY better than anyone will say they do.

Follow This Outline Below, and DON'T over-complicate it. "Making money online" is hard only if you look at the whole picture at once rather than taking it step-by-step and breaking down exactly what you need to do. None of these steps by themselves are hard, but they can be if you make them:

1.) Find a market to go into, then pick a niche in that market that people are looking for.

Not sure how this is done? Two ways I'd recommend:

  • Go to Clickbank and scan through the various topics, looking for products that are selling well. When you select a category, in some cases Clickbank will give you sub-categories as well. Pick one that interests you. In most cases, a product found here will be a 'niche' product already.
  • Go to Amazon.com and look through the magazines. These all represent broad markets (in most cases), so keep digging until you find a sub-niche in that market. You can do this by clicking through the various topics, and it will give you new magazine titles within those narrowed-down topics.

Example:
Broad Market= Health & Fitness
Sub Niche of that market= Acne Cures (found through Clickbank by searching: Health & Fitness > Remedies)

Tip: This generally goes pretty fast. I found that one above in a matter of minutes. If you're not sure you have a viable niche, then verify that there's products for it using Clickbank, or Google search "your keyword + affiliate", with the goal of finding affiliate programs for products in your niche. These are going to be the products that you'll promote to your list that you're going to build.

If that checks out, then you have a viable market. No sense in entering a niche that has no products you can promote, as that normally indicates that people aren't necessarily willing to buy information in your niche. Nor does it make sense to enter a niche that no one is searching for, so to find out if they ARE searching for whatever niche you've picked out, go here: https://adwords.google.com/select/Ke...rceLegacy=true, and type in your "sub niche" keyword to search traffic volume for.

For me, it was "acne cures", and I found that there are numerous keywords that all get relatively high amounts of searches each month, both locally and globally. If you use the above link to check the keyword searches, you can also view Adwords PPC competition by dropping down the "View Columns To Display" field. (If you don't have a budget for PPC, then don't worry about this!)

At this point, I'm going to stress that you don't over-complicate things. And don't be discouraged by a lot of competition, especially in the search engines. You're not going to be ranking websites organically or anything, which is a whole other beast that is counter-productive to what I'm trying to show you here (how to get started fast), and if you're going to try, there's many, many more rigorous steps involved.

With this, just make sure there are products floating around in the niche you've picked out, and that people are searching for information in your niche. Once you get in front of a computer and actually do this, you'll be surprised at how fast it can go.

Total Time: 1 hour
Total Cost: $0

2.) Find a problem people in that niche are having.

Once you have the niche narrowed down, do a search for "your niche + forum" in Google. Find the top forums from that niche/industry and check them out. See what people are talking about or what they're having issues with. This is basic market research, and goes remarkably quickly. You're just scanning for a problem; any problem. In fact, while in the forums, you can usually find hot topics just by looking at the threads with the most views/responses on it. I've gotten so many ideas and money magnets from doing that.

Once again, don't over-complicate this or make it more difficult than it is. Just find a damn problem people seem to be having.

Total Time: 20 minutes
Total Cost: $0

3.) Google Search that problem to find the answer.

Literally, go to Google and type in the problem people are having. In the above scenario, I went to Google and searched for: "how to get rid of acne", and found this site: How to Get Rid of Acne - howtogetridofstuff.com

Done. You're now an expert on acne cures, or near enough. People are looking for this information too, and you're going to give it to them in step 4.

Total Time: 20 minutes (at the max)
Total Cost: $0

Note (in response to some replies to this part of the thread): The reason this works and is easy is because you're not selling the information you're finding here; you're giving it away. You're essentially doing the research for other people, and people always want the work done for them. When it only takes a name and email to get it handed to them, most of them will give you that.

4.) Set up a squeeze page to give your newly acquired information away.

Yes, you'll need an autoresponder. You can try Aweber for 1 month for only $1, which is all you need. If you don't have any squeeze page templates, Google search "free squeeze page templates." After doing that, I found these ones, which seem to be decent enough for me: Winning List Building Templates from Tellman and Shawn

(Side note: Why are these templates decent enough for me? Because they're from Tellman Knudson and he not only uses them himself, but he also makes a ****load more money than I do. Whether these are awesome templates or not, by using these for the time being and getting something out there, I'm going to outpace everyone that does nothing or that keeps looking for a 'better' template. Don't reinvent the wheel.)

Then, if you don't have a program to edit HTML templates, download NVU, a free HTML editor, from NVU.

(You'll notice that when you're in doubt or need help, I'm recommending you Google search your problem. Not only will you probably find your answer, but you'll learn how to solve problems by yourself instead of ranting on forums about how "it's not working for you".)

With the above templates from Tellman, he already includes the sales copy that he's personally tweaked and gotten to convert. All you do is change a few things here and there, customize it to your niche/information, and you're done.

Don't make this take all day. Perfectionists are broke for a reason, and making something grammatically correct and "just right" won't drive hungry flocks of visitors to your page. Keep in mind that although you're going to feel productive after this, absolutely nothing you've done thus far will put money in your pocket. So don't take all day, there's profits to be made yet.

Add 7-10 follow up messages into your autoresponder, including one that goes out right when they opt in that gives them a link to either download your information, or that takes them to a "Thank You" page where they download your information (if you don't have one of these pages, it's conveniently right underneath the Squeeze Page Templates from the link I included above (from Tellman Kundson)).

Then, I'd personally pre-set one message to go out the following 2 days in a row after they opt in. You want to establish an initial contact with your list and reinforce that connection over the following 2-3 days to get your foot in the door.

As for the remaining 6-9 messages, set the emails to go out every other day, and in each email include your affiliate link (which you should probably have a redirect for, or link cloaking) to that affiliate product we found earlier. This is the first way you can monetize your list. Don't worry about the other ways until you have a list with which to monetize.

Total Time: 2.5 hours
Total Cost: $1*

*If you don't have a domain and hosting, you can use Weebly for the website for now. It's free, and you can either choose a template for the website, or add in your own HTML. In that case, you'd copy all the HTML from your squeeze page (in NVU, just click the "Source" tab at the bottom left of the window), and copy all the lines of code. Then in Weebly, paste that in the HTML editing field. If you're unsure how to do this, just submit a support ticket there and they'll tell you how to do it. It's not hard, just slightly technical.

If you want a website of your own, I'd recommend a .info domain since they're only $.99 now at GoDaddy, and Hostgator has hosting packages that start at $4.99/month (to get coupons for this, Google search "Hostgator Coupon Codes". Easy, eh?). So, if you go this route:

Total Cost: $6.98 ($1 + $.99 + $4.99)

5.) Drive traffic to your site. (Or, put your URL in front of people from your niche.)

This is where everything normally falls to ****. People get so hung up on "traffic generation" that instead of actually doing the work that will drive visitors to their site, they squawk about how it's not working. It also doesn't help that most of the 'gurus' make traffic into some huge, multi-faceted ordeal that only their latest product can alleviate.

But, the underlying thing here is that getting people to your site is where the dirty work comes in. You have to put in time for this, which surprisingly most people won't or don't want to do. They want to make money, but won't spend the required time to do it. Instead they search for the magic button, which as the people that have put in the necessary time already know, doesn't exist.

What I'd like to say is this: forget the term "traffic generation". When I did, I stopped having issues with it. Instead, think of it as putting your URL in front of people from or looking for information on your niche. Sounds easy enough, right?

So, grab a beer (or pepsi, if you're under age) and get to cracking. Here's some ways to do this:

  • Google search "your industry + forum" to find related forums in your niche. Forums are potential jackpots, since they can be full of like-minded people that want what you have. Copy the headline from your squeeze page and paste it into the signature you're normally given on the forum (found in your Profile, normally), and link that back to your squeeze page.

    Then go into the forum threads and post relevant comments, or just respond and engage people. This isn't tough, and I shouldn't have to tell you to not be one of those spammy douches people all hate in forums.
  • Go to EzineArticles.com and search for your industry. For this example, I'd search for "acne cures." See what people are writing about, and just rewrite their articles. Hey, information isn't exclusive and you won't get brownie points for playing fair.

    (Note: Notice I didn't say to "copy" the content. I don't condone that, nor should you. This has proven to be a point of contention for some readers of this thread, so if you have a problem with this, here's a solution: either pick a familiar topic you can add value to, or spend a day just reading about your chosen topic. If it's "acne cures", like in this example, spend a day reading about various cures online and/or visit your local bookstore and read some books on it over a cup of coffee or something (perhaps even an iced blueberry coffee from Dunkin Donuts.. Yes, you can enjoy this step). Take notes and use those notes to create articles. But even still, guess what? You're just re-writing other people's content anyway, so we've more or less come full circle here. At the end of the day, just make sure you're creating articles; it's purely for traffic regardless.)

    Shortly thereafter, whichever route you go, download Brad Callen's free Article Submitter software (not sure where it is? Google it.) and submit your article to every site you possibly can. Then do this 2-3 more times each day. (What, you thought it would only take a few minutes? Not if you want to make money it won't.) Also, see the "Advanced Breakdown" portion below for more on this..
  • If you have a budget to use toward marketing, I'd go to Yahoo and sign up for their Sponsored Search program. It's their version of Google Adwords, only I find I get cheaper clicks from their sponsored searches. I'm not claiming to be a PPC expert, but I've tested and spent a lot of money trying various things, and from my own experience, I get cheaper clicks on Yahoo's Search Marketing.
Quick note: you're trying to build a list, so make sure all your traffic is being directed to your squeeze page!

Total Time: As much as you have
Total Cost: Between $1 and $6.98


Here's an Advanced Breakdown of what you can do for more traffic (this is a goldmine for traffic generation):
  1. Write an article. Or 3, or however many you want.
  2. Submit that article/those articles to the top Article Directories, for which you can use Brad Callen's free Article Submitter Software. (Hasn't let me down yet.. You just load your article content in there then go down a list submitting them to the various directories in the software.)
  3. Download Techsmith's Jing, a free screen capture software.
  4. Turn your articles into videos using Google Presentation (a free Google Document program, similar to Microsoft's Powerpoint), and capture the video + audio using Jing. You'll need a microphone for this, which can run as little as $10.
  5. Sign up for a free Tubemogul account and submit your Jing-created video to the various video-sharing websites in TubeMogul. You can do that, or just sign up for the $1 trial at Traffic Guyser and get the video, article, social bookmarking, and postcast submissions all automated and syndicated.
Total Time: As much as you have (plus a day or so to register to the sites in the software listed above)
Total Cost: Between $1 and $7.98
(providing you have a microphone)

(Notice that this series of steps can be completely free, excepting the microphone and/or $1 trial to Traffic Guyser.)

If you do this Advanced Traffic method, it's going to be time intensive. I've whittled it down to about 1.5 hours, all said and done, but setting up the software and registering to the various sites they store for you (which you only have to do once) will take a solid chunk of time, maybe a couple days. But after you do that, your daily input for driving traffic to your site is very minimal.

...And that's all I got!

Don't over-complicate any of this. You're building a list around information people want, and giving it to them by using a squeeze page and traffic. Easy enough, but it can get VERY complicated when you start adding things to it. So don't add anything to it.

Both myself and some highly successful friends have done this repeatedly in more than a handful of niches, and can honestly say that the only way it won't work (at least to get you that first sale or more) is if you do nothing or don't want to work for it. In which case IM isn't for you anyway.

Hopefully this helps some people, and as I said before, it's meant to be a break from the confusion, geared towards helping people get out of the rut or get off that "square one" they tend to get stuck on.

PM me if you need help with anything

Good times, all.. Thanks for reading!

-Tom
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  • Profile picture of the author koncorps
    I think the time that it takes to do each task correctly on your first time is a little skewed.

    I think you should take away the total time, because your guide is pretty decent. It goes over all the basics that people should take into consideration but all of those need to be done in unison and correctly.

    20 minutes is hardly enough time to do market research and find a profitable niche. Unless you mean setting up multiple projects at once, which most newbies won't have the funds to do?

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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    Originally Posted by sirtom View Post

    • Go to EzineArticles.com and search for your industry. For this example, I'd search for "acne cures." See what people are writing about, and just rewrite their articles. Hey, information isn't exclusive and you won't get brownie points for playing fair.
    And you won't win any brownie points from the people around here who write the articles you are ripping off.
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      Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

      [/LIST] And you won't win any brownie points from the people around here who write the articles you are ripping off.
      ~OR~

      And you won't win any brownie points from the people around here who rip off the articles you are ripping off.
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      • Profile picture of the author sirtom
        Originally Posted by mojojuju View Post

        ~OR~

        And you won't win any brownie points from the people around here who rip off the articles you are ripping off.
        True story.

        Originally Posted by abracad View Post

        Thanks for sharing. I love the comments.
        Glad you do! There's a good few things to be learned- on top of the post itself- just from the comments. I like the responses thus far, thanks for contributing everyone

        Originally Posted by stephie614 View Post

        I have my web site set up. I have written articles. Followed directions to end. Hard work is not an issue here. Time is a little scrunched, only have about 3 to 4 hours a day to spare, but working the web as much as I can. Still nothing. I do get confused :confused: sometimes, but I reread the programs I have and rewatch the videos till I get it. Running out of cash and need to make some money - fast (anything to start will do) I know, been told thousands of times - do one time with results and repeat the system. Can't seem to get the one time. Maybe this added to what I have will help. Sure hope so.
        Stephanie,

        The first thing to do is to figure out exactly what you're doing right now. If you're doing a lot of one thing that's not getting results, then don't do it. You have to be able to accept when things aren't working and be able to move on, especially if you're losing money in the process.

        If you're thinking about trying out this method here, I'd also recommend that you do this and this alone, instead of trying to work it into what you have going on. If you're already doing something else, the same thing would apply to that method.

        This one here is fairly basic and designed to be non-complicated though. Once you see some results with it, then you can try to add things or change things up, but until you DO see results, just stick to the formula. I'm recommending this because it won't really cost you any money (under $10ish), so you really have nothing to lose. And with 3-4 hours a day (which is definitely enough to do some damage), you could run with this.

        The thing to note though is that you can make this happen. Don't quit altogether, but also recognize that sometimes you need to switch your plan of attack

        PM me and let me know what you're working on and I'll see how I can help you. Seems like you got the fire and motivation, so I'll see if I can put you on the right track.

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    article is useful , let me try this out
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Then
    Originally Posted by sirtom View Post

    Do This Below, and DON'T over-complicate it. It's NOT hard, but it can be if you make it:
    That's what I'm concerned with when people start sharing such information.

    Is it hard? Maybe. Is it tedious? Yes, I believe.

    Try not to paint a nice picture about making money online, include the hard path to success and the truth of scaling success.
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  • Profile picture of the author mlord10
    Good advice, but newbies don't think that affiliate marketing is "easy." Trust me, it can be very rewarding, but it is not easy.

    However, good general post to get the newbies going in the right direction.
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  • Profile picture of the author shabit87
    great tips, especially for those not currently taking action...or even thoughs who are taking action are see no results. i also admire the fact you put a time frame underneath each step...there's no excuse why one can't leap into following these steps. its not like its time consuming, as you've pointed out
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  • Profile picture of the author brianvanr
    I have been looking at the internet for several years and have tried many things that have been good money makers for other people. I am fully aware that the get rich programs are junk because there are no free rides.

    I want to go into niche marketing but there are so many things that need to be done and so many programs that offer to show you how. But being a newbie in this area which do I choose. I am looking at Niche Profit Classroom expensive but seems to be organized and helpful. I am looking at auoblogblueprint but their coupon is expired and they are not responding to emails about that. In their defense it has only been 2 days but it is a concern. I am also looking at Bloghatter. Do you have any comments or other software recommendations?

    At this point I believe affiliate marketing is best for me because I need to learn how to market before I make my own product. I got 5 years to retirement and would like something to do along with my ministry work which is mostly volunteer work. I will retire with enough to live on but would like to have few extras and be able to support some important children’s ministries in the Philippines.
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    • Profile picture of the author edhodgson
      Originally Posted by brianvanr View Post

      I have been looking at the internet for several years and have tried many things that have been good money makers for other people. I am fully aware that the get rich programs are junk because there are no free rides.

      I want to go into niche marketing but there are so many things that need to be done and so many programs that offer to show you how. But being a newbie in this area which do I choose. I am looking at Niche Profit Classroom expensive but seems to be organized and helpful. I am looking at auoblogblueprint but their coupon is expired and they are not responding to emails about that. In their defense it has only been 2 days but it is a concern. I am also looking at Bloghatter. Do you have any comments or other software recommendations?

      At this point I believe affiliate marketing is best for me because I need to learn how to market before I make my own product. I got 5 years to retirement and would like something to do along with my ministry work which is mostly volunteer work. I will retire with enough to live on but would like to have few extras and be able to support some important children's ministries in the Philippines.
      Brian,

      Your half way there already. So many people try to come into this industry with the sole goal of making money. It can take a long while for the penny to drop and for them to realise that they need to learn a new set of skills and actually learn to market a product before they will see any money.

      You clearly understand this more than most.

      If you have a good work ethic, there is no reason why you should not spend your retirement with more than just enough to live on.

      All the best,

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    Step 5 is the toughest though, every niche has terrible competition these days, and unless you can do a mind blowing job you'll be part of the crowd.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hoopatang
    The only problem I see with this (besides the "rewrite other people's stuff" which was mentioned above) is that by just randomly picking a product, you have no idea what kind of competition there is for that product or its keywords. You don't even know if people are actively searching for your topic. (Just because it's being discussed on a forum doesn't mean folks are doing searches for it.)

    On another board I belong to, a fellow webmaster looked over the products at a mass-sponsor site, and picked two he thought would sell. Got domain names for them, got everything set up and ready to roll - and now he's having to face the hard reality that this is a really, REALLY competitive market he's chosen that's already stuffed to the gills with plenty of megawebmasters who have all of these normal traffic trips down solid plus the wallets to buy traffic and run massive PPC campaigns on top of that.

    It was a hard lesson to learn, costing him time, effort, and money.

    I understand this is working for you and I salute you for that; I just don't want other people to end up disheartened like the webmaster I just described because they didn't do any actual research beforehand - which in reality would only add another half hour or so to the whole process you describe.
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    • Profile picture of the author sirtom
      Edited the original post.

      Also, thanks for the comments thus far everyone.

      As for the times it takes to do each of these steps, they're meant to serve as a guide. Will it take longer than that? Maybe. But the time frames on here are meant to make you say, "I'm taking 2 hours to do this and Tom only said it takes 20 minutes. Am I over-complicating this?"

      To which the answer may or may not be "yes", but it should serve to keep you on track.

      I'll respond in turn to everyone else later today. Thanks a lot, and to those who may knock this, especially if you aren't making money, I'd ask: what do you have to lose? This costs under $10 and can be set up in a day, in hours. What do you have to lose?
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      • Profile picture of the author sirtom
        Sorry for the double post, but I wanted to respond to people so far..

        Originally Posted by Joseph Then View Post

        That's what I'm concerned with when people start sharing such information.

        Is it hard? Maybe. Is it tedious? Yes, I believe.

        Try not to paint a nice picture about making money online, include the hard path to success and the truth of scaling success.
        I strongly disagree. I think action is easy, you just have to DO it. What's hard about anything in here? Nothing I detailed in this entire post is difficult or beyond doing; it just depends on if you want to dedicate yourself to something and see it through to completion. It CAN be hard though, if you make it hard, which is why I stress so often to not over-complicate things.

        Originally Posted by mlord10 View Post

        Good advice, but newbies don't think that affiliate marketing is "easy." Trust me, it can be very rewarding, but it is not easy.

        However, good general post to get the newbies going in the right direction.
        Thanks man. And I think it can be easy if you try to do very simple things that get very small results. If you take small steps, it's so much easier. With that mentality, everything is so much more manageable. But when you look at it from "I want to make 5 figures a week," then it quickly gets tougher.

        Originally Posted by prajwalnshinde View Post

        Good advice, all we have to do is to take action. Because make people fear in taking action. Once we start taking action we will start to larn lots things and eventually become experts in that niche and start making lots of money.

        So TAKE ACTION NOW.....
        You nailed that one, my friend. Action is key. I used to get passed up all the time by people that just took action, mean while my squeeze pages and websites looked so much better and were grammatically correct...

        ..But when you're the only one that sees them, it does absolutely no good.

        Originally Posted by shabit87 View Post

        great tips, especially for those not currently taking action...or even thoughs who are taking action are see no results. i also admire the fact you put a time frame underneath each step...there's no excuse why one can't leap into following these steps. its not like its time consuming, as you've pointed out
        No it's not, I'm glad you agree. Sure things get really complicated if you make them. Even market research. If you can't do that in under 30 minutes you're doing too much. (Normally it takes me much less, and I've used this formula so many times it's ridiculous, all of which have made me at least a few sales. I talk from experience, not from speculation.)

        Originally Posted by hendricius View Post

        Step 5 is the toughest though, every niche has terrible competition these days, and unless you can do a mind blowing job you'll be part of the crowd.
        Not true in the least from my experience. Competition isn't a bad thing, it just means there's more money in the market and a bigger chance you'll have to get a slice of the pie.

        That's a horrible over-exaggeration. I think a lot of people are deterred by competition and as a result do nothing, when if you just take action (heck, use this post as a guide even), you can do surprisingly more than you can with inaction.
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        • Profile picture of the author Joseph Then
          Originally Posted by sirtom View Post

          I strongly disagree. I think action is easy, you just have to DO it. What's hard about anything in here? Nothing I detailed in this entire post is difficult or beyond doing; it just depends on if you want to dedicate yourself to something and see it through to completion. It CAN be hard though, if you make it hard, which is why I stress so often to not over-complicate things.
          If you keep on saying that it's easy, you'll have people coming to the forum every week asking the question: "Teach me how to make $2000 by next week" type of posts.

          Your steps is easy, yes, to me. To a newbie, it's not easy at all.

          That's the point.
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          • Profile picture of the author sirtom
            Originally Posted by Joseph Then View Post

            If you keep on saying that it's easy, you'll have people coming to the forum every week asking the question: "Teach me how to make $2000 by next week" type of posts.

            Your steps is easy, yes, to me. To a newbie, it's not easy at all.

            That's the point.
            That's just the thing.. See, the whole reason behind this post is to provide a simple, clear post on what to do to get started that hopefully helps to break through the clutter out there. '$2,000 a day' is definitely not what we're talking about here, as indicated with the line I included towards the end of my post: "at least to get you that first sale or more".

            As for being easy, I'll ask you this again: what's difficult to do in this post? Even for beginners, or people who haven't made money yet that have been in it for a while? Yeah, you're going to do things that you may not have done before, which granted may take more time than I have indicated, but that's hardly a reason for inaction from anyone.

            I'll be honest: if it's not easy the first time, it will be considerably easier the second time.

            I specifically say many times in this post to Google search something or other, and search for the answer by themselves. I do this for many reasons: to work things out for themselves, to get out there and DO something.. Reading all damn day in forums won't put a dime in your pocket until you go out and apply what you've learned.

            When you keep saying "It's hard, newbie's can't do this", then I personally think you're making a mountain out of a mole hill for the beginners that would otherwise have used this information. If anyone gets hung up on anything, ask for help! We're talking maybe a day and under $10... If you're struggling to make money online, then you can't ask for anything easier than that. You're probably going to spend that time procrastinating doing real tasks anyway, may as well give this a shot. If not, that's totally cool, but I wrote the OP to help you.

            But just so you know, I'm a fan of action and not theory, so to people who try this: instead of saying it won't work, first try it, then come to me with what you didn't get. Makes it much easier to help out
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            • Profile picture of the author Joseph Then
              Originally Posted by sirtom View Post

              I'll be honest: if it's not easy the first time, it will be considerably easier the second time.
              That's the point I have been highlighting all the time. Many newbie come to the forum with hope of making money and they think it is easy to do so when people are sharing stories like "I make $XXX by mailing 1,000", "I make $XXX with this keyword", etc. without realizing the hard work behind everything.

              When you wrote, "it's not hard at all" you have implied that money making is easy, even though you mentioned that it is for the first sale. Trust me, some of the newbies here will hear the terms like "ClickBank", "Google Adwords", "Squeeze Page", etc. for the first time in their life so how can it be easy?

              When you admit that it is not easy the first time, that is the right perspective.
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            • Profile picture of the author BobV
              You have what it takes to be professional guide for the newbies having trouble with them entering this world...

              You said it all and you said it right...These should be considered by many of the people around here having troubles on their first chapter of doing the business...

              Keep up the good work,
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              • Profile picture of the author sirtom
                Originally Posted by Nick Brighton View Post

                Hi Tom, first of all, I'd like to apologize if I hurt your feelings. I didn't mean to my friend.
                No worries bro.. I guess it was just how I took the initial response. I also know everyone's experience is different, and on the whole it's not all easy and quick to make money online. I just wanted to give people a place to start, which can generate some results with application.

                There's obviously a ton of underlying factors involved, like the ones you listed ("ecover, book title, bullet points, headline, background colors, body copy, USP, sales hook, benefits..."), and each could be a subject and thread on their own. But, to make it simple, I just listed rather clear-cut instructions devoid of thinking about all the little things, since sometimes it's thinking about every piece of the picture that can get overwhelming. Which may lead to inaction, hence the omission.

                Point taken though, and I agree with you. Now about this:

                Originally Posted by Nick Brighton View Post

                There's something I want you to think about with this whole step. Why do you think it's so hard to sell basic information for good money online?

                Any clues?

                Let's look at the process... if YOU can go to Google and in 20 mins become "an expert" (as you put it), then so can your customers.

                Think about it. That's why people can't sell their eBooks. They're trying to sell scraped information from Google's front page.

                Again, if YOU can become an expert in 20 mins, so can your customer.
                It's very hard selling this kind of information, simply for the ease of which you can find it. That's why I suggest giving it away with the opt in, and posting content out there to drive traffic to the squeeze page as opposed to trying to rank sites.

                For this example, I know a guy who gets 3,000 unique visitors to his site per day, and he's in the health niche (natural cures, to be exact). He only gets 25-30 opt ins a day from organic traffic though, for the reason you described above. But, using the method from my OP, I've found the opt in rate to be much higher, but the point of the entire process is to build a list which you can later monetize. Once you have the list, with enough value can come the rapport/relationship, and eventually the sales.

                Originally Posted by Nick Brighton View Post

                Overthink it or not, I'm just trying to stop people getting fed promises of "how easy it all is" when they are just starting out.

                I know how painful it can be watching it all crumble because you "just did it and took action"... only to find out that "what you just did" wasn't the "action" needed to get the desired results.
                True enough. But also, if people take action on what I'm talking about here, they'll learn some incredibly useful skills that you learn by doing, not by reading, which in turn will help them that much more in all future online endeavors.

                Lastly...

                Originally Posted by Nick Brighton View Post

                Sure, it's hard... and it's hard for a reason: It's damn worth it.
                Totally agreed

                Originally Posted by onlinedee View Post

                Thank you very much for this sirtom. Finally something i MUST work on right now if i am really serious about this business. And an article that has saved me from information overload. thank you once again.
                No problem

                Let me know if I can help..

                Originally Posted by nichechic View Post

                It's posts like this that give me hope in finding a way to begin earning real money. I wish people would be less judgmental, instead of ripping someone apart for sharing something they could have easily sold. Taking the time to share valuable information with newbies like me is certainly going above and beyond, so THANK YOU AGAIN!
                Thank you for the kind words

                As for the judgmental replies: I think the posters felt more than justified, like with Nick (above). No harm in any of what he said, or saying it was difficult. For some people it definitely will be. For some it won't. In the end, I hope it gets you farther than you were when you started, and if it does then I did what I wanted to do.

                Originally Posted by cocanuting View Post

                SirTom, You really are one the few Internet marketeer which I have respect for.
                I haven't gotten than before, so thank you a ton

                As for this:

                Originally Posted by cocanuting View Post

                The thing I don't get who the hell are we targeting?? Cuz from my experience, when ever I google/bing/yahoo the word 'buy' the top links are always associated with amazon.com or ebay.com or some other big cooperation..not some free wordpress.com. Only time I land on these random sites is when I google/bing/yahoo "make money online" open all the first 10 links... buy this buy that....
                I'm not quite sure what you're talking about.. I think you should re-read the original post, since I don't think you have a clear grasp on it. I can PM you and we'll talk about it, get you on the right foot.

                And this:

                Originally Posted by cocanuting View Post

                • Research on the product where it is used and why it is used and who uses it
                • Read other people's blogs/review on it... or their niche website which I think means..website dedicated to the product
                • Create a sing free blog on wordpress or blogger on the product, review it, add a bit of graphic finally a affliate link...
                • Go to different site such as hubpages and other which you mentioned. copy paste the article which I made onto the site and add a link in the end directing to the blog I made
                • Using the forums which I read before for research, post there with my sig pointing to my blog which I made
                • Still need to understand the whole social bookmarking and backlinks... a few more time on the forum I will find it
                Btw.. where does Micro Niche Finder come into play? what's it's role? From my understanding, it's used to find the right keyword which people google/bing/yahoo most of time and having those keyword in your article as many times makes it rich...and attractive to the top ranks..is that the really the game? Did I just crack it? Typing up an article according to keyword key to glory?
                This isn't related to my post at all, and I don't think it's going to generate the results you're looking for. I'd personally stick to the method I outlined in my post if you're looking to get actual results. If you have questions on any of the steps, feel free to let me know, by all means. Skype me, perhaps?

                Originally Posted by cocanuting View Post

                One more thing before I wrap it up;

                Lets say I found laptop bags being hot these days. People posting a lot about and reviewing it. This could be niche market right?

                What I'm confused about is what kind of 'articles' are you talking about to pump out these 2 or 3 per days and submit them everywhere, Hubpage, Squido, the software you were talking about. Are these random articles or articles related to the product?
                There difference here is that you're targeting physical products, I was talking about information. I think an information business model is best, since people will opt in to a squeeze page for information they're looking for. It's hard building a list around physical products, from what I've seen. You can surely do it, but I think the information business is much more substantial from a monetary perspective.

                Plus there's more you can do with that list, which I may get into in a future post.

                As for the articles, you'd be writing articles related to the topic you chose for a sub-niche. You're giving away information centered around a certain niche, so you want articles and content that relate to that niche. If someone is looking for information on how to get six pack abs, and you're building a list around 6-pack abs, then you want to create articles relating to 6-pack abs so the more people that come to your site, the more people will want to opt in for your information. It all needs to be congruent, which is called 'targeting the right market'. If you just start pumping out random articles, there's no focus.

                Hope that helps, but if not, PM me or Skype me and we'll talk.

                Originally Posted by BobV View Post

                You have what it takes to be professional guide for the newbies having trouble with them entering this world...

                You said it all and you said it right...These should be considered by many of the people around here having troubles on their first chapter of doing the business...

                Keep up the good work,
                Bob
                Thanks Bob!

                How are you doing with things? Are you using this method I talk about here? (And if so, how's it going?)
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  • Profile picture of the author gwriter
    the thing about internet marketing if you think it's hard it is. I have used a similar method in the past to make a few sales.

    I think people in this thread are getting worked up for nothing. Yes a good product will help you sell more, but it all really depends on the marketing.

    If your marketing is good, and people see you as a trusted advisor they will likely buy products you recommend
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  • Profile picture of the author l2ascal
    This might just be one of the best FREE resources that I've come across. I appreciate you taking the time to give out such information without requiring an opt-in or anything else. This could truly help those beginning in the IM niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    Hi Sirtom:
    Thanks for sharing. I have found that small niches you can dominate easy. It is much easier the big ones. Big frog in small pond versus tiny ant in large lake, I say.
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  • Profile picture of the author David_Nilsson
    @sirtom great post, i loved how you broke it down into steps and gave us the time frame it took you to do each step, this gives me an idea of the time that it can be done in and helps me to stay focus on the task at hand.

    Thanks again mate.

    @Joseph Then, I think you are focusing on the wrong thing in the post, easy or hard most newbie's will never know because they won't even take action and follow it through to the end.

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author George Wright
    It amuses me when the arguments start as to why it can't be done. Facts: If you make it easy it's easy, make it hard it's hard. If you think you can you can and if you think you can't you can't. Some seem to have a vested interest to complicate things. Thanks OP for your clear cut instructions.

    With all due respect, and this is actually not directed to any in this thread, but, others in a couple of past discussions. When we start putting adjectives on the word ACTION we weaken that powerful word terribly. When we start qualifying "Just Do It" with a bunch of other words we weaken that powerful phrase.

    I think "Yes But," is a killer and I don't mean killer in a good way, killer as in death.

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    Thanks for spelling it out so clearly.
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    • Profile picture of the author sirtom
      Originally Posted by George Wright View Post

      It amuses me when the arguments start as to why it can't be done. Facts: If you make it easy it's easy, make it hard it's hard. If you think you can you can and if you think you can't you can't. Some seem to have a vested interest to complicate things. Thanks OP for your clear cut instructions.
      Sure thing man.. I also think it's funny that whenever useful information is put out there, there are some that dwell on what is and isn't difficult as opposed to just implementing it. Which never gets you any farther..

      Originally Posted by David_Nilsson View Post

      @sirtom great post, i loved how you broke it down into steps and gave us the time frame it took you to do each step, this gives me an idea of the time that it can be done in and helps me to stay focus on the task at hand.

      Thanks again mate.
      No problem man! You know, I got the idea from the 4-Hour Work Week actually. There's a section in the book he breaks up a similar way, and I found it ridiculously useful. I'm glad others did in here as well, should serve as a solid guide.

      Thanks for the comments
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  • Profile picture of the author iDevesh
    Very Nice Post man. Very helpful for beginners.
    Thanks for sharing. Great work.
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  • Profile picture of the author rickd222
    THank you very much, dude. Ill try it out soon. Again, thx

    Cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author sirtom
      Originally Posted by rickd222 View Post

      THank you very much, dude. Ill try it out soon. Again, thx
      Awesome! Let me know how it goes! And PM me if you need help with any of it..

      Originally Posted by salamony86 View Post

      I will try this one out! it sounds interesting
      I hope it works well for you..

      This is an awesome method for any beginner, or anyone period, since it's a ridiculously easy way to build a list.. Which is undoubtably your best online business asset.

      And it's SO quick to do.. Definitely give it a go
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  • Profile picture of the author bigalan6622
    I have a couple ideas for this method. Thanks a lot for the post. It serves as an inspiration knowing you have done this and succeeded in the past.
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    • Profile picture of the author sirtom
      Originally Posted by bigalan6622 View Post

      I have a couple ideas for this method. Thanks a lot for the post. It serves as an inspiration knowing you have done this and succeeded in the past.
      Sure have.. Many times, and I've several friends who've used this as well with excellent results.

      If you have an idea, run with it. Just get moving and don't stop.. That's usually the best way to do it I've found, and trying not to get tripped up on perfecting anything.

      Let me know how it goes. Post here or PM me, either way. And/or contact me if you have any questions; I'm here to help and know this works.
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    If only it were this easy! we would be rich! lol
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    • Profile picture of the author sirtom
      Originally Posted by Michael Patterson View Post

      If only it were this easy! we would be rich! lol
      When I wasn't making a dime online yet, this is what I was doing:

      Following the advice of one successful person: I contacted, set dates for, and recorded interviews with people, paid to have some transcribed while transcribing others myself, had a mini-site template designed, formatted the content to sell, wrote an autoresponder series for it, and wrote the complete sales letter.

      Then I saw something else I liked better form a random email I didn't even care to open, so I restructured the sales letter and the project, shifting from a "product" to a membership site, which delayed the time I would "launch" it by no less than 3 months, since then I had to have the graphics designed, re-write the email series, restructure the content, and set up a membership site.

      Point being: That was hard. Not because it was hard, but because I made it hard.

      This that I outline in my post is easy. It takes doing it to realize that, but you can definitely make it hard if you want to; there's a lot of ways to do that.

      You may not get rich from it (not by tomorrow or next week, at least), but I describe a clear-cut way to build a list around information that people want in a niche that people are looking for. Those two things combine to create one hell of an online business. Rich? Maybe. But, you will make sales and collect a list of people who want what you have, to which you can give value to in the future so they'll buy more from you.

      No more, but certainly no less. Try it out
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      • Profile picture of the author tehering
        Very nice post...I think it should serve as great inspiration for anyone trying to get off the launch-pad...

        My question is this Tom: when describing article submissions I did get a bit confused...are you saying to try and submit 2-3 articles per day or week or...?

        Certainly appreciate your input...
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        • Profile picture of the author sirtom
          Originally Posted by tehering View Post

          Very nice post...I think it should serve as great inspiration for anyone trying to get off the launch-pad...

          My question is this Tom: when describing article submissions I did get a bit confused...are you saying to try and submit 2-3 articles per day or week or...?

          Certainly appreciate your input...
          Hey glad you liked it! If only one person gets farther from this it was a success.

          As for the articles, I was talking 2-3 per DAY. You can do as many or little as you want, or have time for initially, but I make getting visitors to my site a mandatory daily activity.

          My recommendation is that you write and submit as many as you can. You kinda get out what you put in, so if you only write/submit one article a day, you're going to see much less traffic than if you write/submit 3 or 4 or 5. To put it in perspective, I've cranked out 10-15 articles a day before, but I've always been the "just do it and get it done" kind.

          You definitely have to dedicate time to this, but there's some smart ways to do it too, i.e. using content syndication sites. With traffic, the goal is to put the content in as many places as possible so as many people as possible can see it. You can do this very easily though, which will save you time and eventually make you the Owner of your business, not the Operator (same as working On your business and not In it.)

          Here's an extended breakdown of what you can do (this is a goldmine for traffic generation):
          1. Write an article. Or 3, or however many you want.
          2. Submit that/those articles to the top Article Directories, for which you can use Brad Callen's free Article Submitter Software. (Hasn't let me down yet.. You just load you article content in there then go down a list submitting them to the various directories in the software.)
          3. Download Techsmith's Jing, a free screen capture software. Turn your articles into presentations using Google Presentation (a free Google Document program), and capture the video + audio using Jing. You'll need a microphone for this, which can run as little as $10.
          4. Sign up for a free Tubemogul account and submit your Jing-created video to the various video-sharing websites in TubeMogul. You can do that, or just sign up for the $1 trial at Traffic Guyser and get the video, article, social bookmarking, and postcast submissions all automated and syndicated.
          Notice that this series of steps can be completely free, excepting the microphone and/or $1 trial to Traffic Guyser.

          If you do this, it's going to be time intensive. I've whittled it down to about 1.5 hours, all said and done, but setting up the software and registering to the various sites they store for you (which you only have to do once) will take a solid chunk of time, maybe a couple days. But after you do that, your daily input for driving traffic to your site is very minimal.

          I'll leave it at that, since it's it's enough to get someone going
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          • Profile picture of the author bigalan6622
            Originally Posted by sirtom View Post

            Hey glad you liked it! If only one person gets farther from this it was a success.

            As for the articles, I was talking 2-3 per DAY. You can do as many or little as you want, or have time for initially, but I make getting visitors to my site a mandatory daily activity.

            My recommendation is that you write and submit as many as you can. You kinda get out what you put in, so if you only write/submit one article a day, you're going to see much less traffic than if you write/submit 3 or 4 or 5. To put it in perspective, I've cranked out 10-15 articles a day before, but I've always been the "just do it and get it done" kind.

            You definitely have to dedicate time to this, but there's some smart ways to do it too, i.e. using content syndication sites. With traffic, the goal is to put the content in as many places as possible so as many people as possible can see it. You can do this very easily though, which will save you time and eventually make you the Owner of your business, not the Operator (same as working On your business and not In it.)

            Here's an extended breakdown of what you can do (this is a goldmine for traffic generation):
            1. Write an article. Or 3, or however many you want.
            2. Submit that/those articles to the top Article Directories, for which you can use Brad Callen's free Article Submitter Software. (Hasn't let me down yet.. You just load you article content in there then go down a list submitting them to the various directories in the software.)
            3. Download Techsmith's Jing, a free screen capture software. Turn your articles into videos using Google Presentation (a free Google Document program), and capture the video + audio using Jing. You'll need a microphone for this, which can run as little as $10.
            4. Sign up for a free Tubemogul account and submit your Jing-created video to the various video-sharing websites in TubeMogul. You can do that, or just sign up for the $1 trial at Traffic Guyser and get the video, article, social bookmarking, and postcast submissions all automated and syndicated.
            Notice that this series of steps can be completely free, excepting the microphone and/or $1 trial to Traffic Guyser.

            If you do this, it's going to be time intensive. I've whittled it down to about 1.5 hours, all said and done, but setting up the software and registering to the various sites they store for you (which you only have to do once) will take a solid chunk of time, maybe a couple days. But after you do that, your daily input for driving traffic to your site is very minimal.

            I'll leave it at that, since it's it's enough to get someone going
            I gotta say, this has been a major help. I've heard plenty of people say oh yeah write an article... submit it to a bunch of article directories and BOOM! you got traffic. It's simple man! And every time someone says it like that without explaining the steps to ACTUALLY do so I am left with gaining nothing. I have actually comprehended and understood what to do from your post and now I'm going to put it into action. Thank You.
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          • Profile picture of the author gsuccess
            This is very helful for beginners. The most important thing to do is to take action. Most beginners fall for imformation overload, they keep reading everything and therefore has no time to take action.

            The best way to start is to start building your list immediately, if you are serious about making money online you need to start building your list immediatly. Just put up a simple one page website - squeeze page, offer a valuable free gift for your visitors to opt-in.

            Whether you want to start with affiliate marketing or not, you need to build your own list of prospects who you will be marketing all your products to. Remember "Money is in the list"
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    This post could have been a $27, $37, $47 etc. WSO

    Try it out and see what happens before throwing stones.....
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    • Profile picture of the author sirtom
      Originally Posted by bigalan6622 View Post

      I gotta say, this has been a major help. I've heard plenty of people say oh yeah write an article... submit it to a bunch of article directories and BOOM! you got traffic. It's simple man! And every time someone says it like that without explaining the steps to ACTUALLY do so I am left with gaining nothing. I have actually comprehended and understood what to do from your post and now I'm going to put it into action. Thank You.
      Sounds good man! Action is key; let me know how it goes, and if you need help etc. PM me or hit me up on Skype or whatever lol, I'm pretty accessible.

      Also, I'm glad that clarified article marketing for you. I'd see that all the time as well, with little or no explanations. Not a big help, so I know exactly how it feels.

      Now if you remember nothing else, remember this: (shout outs to Gary Vaynerchuk, btw..)

      Content is king, but content syndication is Queen.
      And we all know who runs the house...

      Remember that, my friend.

      Originally Posted by Mike Murphy View Post

      This post could have been a $27, $37, $47 etc. WSO

      Try it out and see what happens before throwing stones.....
      Haha will do, good sir. There's plenty more to come

      To be honest, I just like people to know I give out good stuff and know what I'm talking about. Leading with quality content and all.. And to be honest, this post started out as merely goodwill towards the beginners, a place to start that's not confusing, but I'm glad to see it picked up some momentum.

      Besides.. Kinda Frank Kern-ish, but if I can give people free content that they can use to actually make money with, then they'll have the money to buy something that I'd charge for.. And if they make money with the content I give away for free, then you know anything I'd charge for would be even better
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      • Profile picture of the author Edk
        Sirtom, to state the obvious. That stuff is absolutely marvellous. There's a lot here I've been looking for. Rather than integrate it into what I've been doing - heck AS WELL AS - I'm going to run this as a project.
        You mention The 4 Hour Workweek by Tom Ferriss. Coincidentally I'm rereading that book right now and also buying some of the texts he recommends. Possibly the wisest man I've met said, 'there's no such thing as coincidence',so that's something to consider.
        Thank you Sir! Pardon the pun
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        • Profile picture of the author mcmahanusa
          Great post, SirTom.

          Brings up memories of an old saying (hereby badly paraphrased): He who insists something can not be done should not hinder he who is doing it.
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    • Profile picture of the author abednego
      Originally Posted by Mike Murphy View Post

      This post could have been a $27, $37, $47 etc. WSO

      Try it out and see what happens before throwing stones.....
      It was just a really rough outline.
      And most of everything in the OP only skimmed the surface...

      I think that if Tom *really* expanded on each idea, included diagrams, an action plan, checklist, calendar... it could easily go for $47+.
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      • Profile picture of the author rchudej1
        Originally Posted by abednego View Post

        It was just a really rough outline.
        And most of everything in the OP only skimmed the surface...

        I think that if Tom *really* expanded on each idea, included diagrams, an action plan, checklist, calendar... it could easily go for $47+.
        Throw in a self-advertising with little value just like the Gurus did and Tom can sell it for $97!

        This is a solid advice and one should run with it. If you are not success the 1st time, or the 10th time what will you do??? --> Analyze what you did, or better yet let the good people here guide you the way on how to improve your approach then try again, and again until you make it!
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        • Profile picture of the author Stuart S
          I agree that you need to keep analysing where you make mistakes when it comes to your website.

          While trying is key, not succeeding in under 1 week is not a failure (which I think turns a lot of people off), for me websites take a bit of time before they really start to pay off.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart S
    Also just an SEO tip I have been using recently, do a google search for traffic travis (its free) and then once you have your article you can see how well the on page factors are for SEO.

    You can also see how easy it would be to rank for your keyword.
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  • Profile picture of the author rchudej1
    SirTom,

    I salute you!
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  • Profile picture of the author BonganiS
    Great tips Tom for making money online. The steps are clear. It is action that can materialize them into cash.
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  • Profile picture of the author bha100710
    Thanks for putting it up so nicely. its time to put some of it to a action
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  • Profile picture of the author Grace26
    Thanks Tom for such valuable information. I bought a course by someone which mentioned that one should sign up at Tubemogul, Jing etc without any further explanation on what I should do or what exactly I will get from these places. I was literally hanging in the air, hence no progress was ever made at all. God bless you!
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    • Profile picture of the author Edk
      I've written in this thread before, but have come back to learn more. May I say this, please please see the positive in Sirtom's writing. If you spot any negatives, just overlook that in light of the FANTASTIC value he's giving here.

      Please note, there's one thing he's got going here which too many sellers of information overlook. Someone gives you their 5 point action plan which includes joining a couple of paid forums (actual example, I'm not making it up). Believe me I'm very tired and worn out (as a newbie) by writeups which are meant to help me. But includes doing stuff with Filezilla and folders, and Lordie Lordie. I've been on the Filezilla forum... I'm no-way up-to-speed with what I'm meant to be doing.

      Sirtom's post doesn't have stuff like that. He's giving SUPER SUPER SUPER value to us newbies!
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    • Profile picture of the author heybert00
      Useful tips! Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
        Hi Tom, first of all, I'd like to apologize if I hurt your feelings. I didn't mean to my friend.

        My comments were really meant as protection for people who get sucked into how easy all this stuff is supposed to be, when in reality, it's not.

        And more to the point, the problem is that people chase rabbits down the hole until they run out of breath.

        Whereas a real business builder will pay you a huge return for the time you spend on it... not just today, but in the future too.

        Now to address a few specifics:

        1. Yes, I know what I'm talking about. If you want screenshots of my Paypal account, then so be it. It won't prove anything, other than the fact that I make more money online than most 9-5 trained employees do in the same month.

        2. I've tried a lot of info publishing business models, in different markets. I've made several grand from Clickbank passively, and have also sold a handful of my own information products too. I've been doing for 4 years before you registered on this forum.

        So maybe I'm a little out of line by being critical, but I do know what I'm talking about (which is more than can be said for some self proclaimed "gurus" around here.)

        Now, onto your plan. The biggest stumbling block of all your steps (which are very familiar steps no less) is this one:


        3.) Google Search that problem.

        Literally, go to Google and type in the problem people are having. In the above scenario, I went to Google and searched for: "how to get rid of acne", and found this site: How to Get Rid of Acne - howtogetridofstuff.com

        Done. You're now an expert on acne cures, or near enough. People are looking for this information too, and you're going to give it to them in step 4.

        Total Time: 20 minutes (at the max)
        Total Cost: $0
        There's something I want you to think about with this whole step. Why do you think it's so hard to sell basic information for good money online?

        Any clues?

        Let's look at the process... if YOU can go to Google and in 20 mins become "an expert" (as you put it), then so can your customers.

        Think about it. That's why people can't sell their eBooks. They're trying to sell scraped information from Google's front page.

        Again, if YOU can become an expert in 20 mins, so can your customer.

        A real business and a real asset is having something valuable that cannot easily be sourced or produced by the customer directly.

        We'd all like to make Pepsi from our kitchens... but it 'aint gonna happen. That's why Pepsi has a lot of money in their accounts.

        Next up...

        With the above templates from Tellman, he already includes the sales copy that he's personally tweaked and gotten to convert. All you do is change a few things here and there, customize it to your niche/information, and you're done.
        I've personally tried using "proven" squeeze pages before... and they might work in one niche, but they won't in another. The people selling these to you are not always selling multiple products in multiple niches with the same template... I guarantee it.

        I'm not talking about tweaking the copy either. Different colours and information, layout etc changes from market to market.

        But maybe I've just been incredibly unlucky in my own experience.

        And finally...

        Both myself and some highly successful friends have done this repeatedly in more than a handful of niches, and can honestly say that the only way it won't work (at least to get you that first sale or more) is if you do nothing or don't want to work for it. In which case IM isn't for you anyway.
        Actually, there are TONS of reasons why this will prove complicated and unprofitable for marketers, based on the loose info you've provided.

        I know you are trying to help, but I guess I'm just trying to be the reality check that is needed when you realize that things like ecover, book title, bullet points, headline, background colors, body copy, USP, sales hook, benefits... are all "things" that could be classed as very serious reasons why people can't get results.

        And that's just onsite stuff. We won't get into writing effective articles, bio boxes, inbound anchor link text, targeting the right buyer keywords... and on, and on.

        Overthink it or not, I'm just trying to stop people getting fed promises of "how easy it all is" when they are just starting out.

        I know how painful it can be watching it all crumble because you "just did it and took action"... only to find out that "what you just did" wasn't the "action" needed to get the desired results.

        Don't be upset if I called you up on something. I know you're just trying to help and I applaud you for that. However, I also feel obliged to inject reality into the situation based on my personal experiences and the obvious experiences of many others on this forum.

        Sure, it's hard... and it's hard for a reason: It's damn worth it.

        As I say, this method can work with the right details in line (details you didn't mention and I don't expect you to in a single forum post!). But don't expect it to put food on your table and just fall into place "just because you took action."

        That's all I'm saying. Let's be friends and face reality together ok?
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        • Profile picture of the author onlinedee
          Thank you very much for this sirtom. Finally something i MUST work on right now if i am really serious about this business. And an article that has saved me from information overload. thank you once again.
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  • Profile picture of the author FleeceHEAD
    Great guide and walk through, thank you.

    I spend most of my time doing my entertainment stuff and promotion of those sites so I already know about things like Article Submitter and some of the other basics but the Jing/Presentation thing I never knew about!! I do have 1 niche blog, originally bought the domain as a personal joke out with my wife and some of her friends (someone got real sick and gave me TMI) but it actually is a decent long tail keyword and I had put up a WP blog a year ago with a couple articles and then never touched it again.

    I'm going to go through your steps 1 by 1 and give it a go with my one idea. I've never done one of these list building / squeeze things before so it'll be fun to learn something new along the way.

    Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author joymacfarlane
      learning with out action is zero result. So beginner should do step by step to be succes.
      Start to action now. do not wait anymore.
      Just pratice what already write up side.
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  • Profile picture of the author sakkie666
    Thank you Tom for sharing this information, I'm still new myself and this info is indeed quality over and over compared to some of the programs I paid for in the past.
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  • Profile picture of the author bigalan6622
    Can you cancel your Aweber Subscription at any time? Like say after the first $1 month I want to cancel?
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    • Profile picture of the author Renaisscance
      cool! How do I use a different template than those built into aweber?
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      • Profile picture of the author sirtom
        Originally Posted by Edk View Post

        Sirtom, to state the obvious. That stuff is absolutely marvellous. There's a lot here I've been looking for. Rather than integrate it into what I've been doing - heck AS WELL AS - I'm going to run this as a project.
        You mention The 4 Hour Workweek by Tom Ferriss. Coincidentally I'm rereading that book right now and also buying some of the texts he recommends. Possibly the wisest man I've met said, 'there's no such thing as coincidence',so that's something to consider.
        Thank you Sir! Pardon the pun
        You're very much welcome! I'm glad you can use this to integrate with what you're doing now. It's some powerful stuff and has made me a fair chunk of money, so definitely use it!

        Side note: The 4 Hour Work Week is SO good

        Originally Posted by mcmahanusa View Post

        Great post, SirTom.

        Brings up memories of an old saying (hereby badly paraphrased): He who insists something can not be done should not hinder he who is doing it.
        Heck yeah, I definitely agree with this. Instead of focusing on what can't be done, just do what you can and move in a forward direction. And if you think you CAN'T do something, you're right. Just watch the person that thinks he CAN pass you up

        Originally Posted by abednego View Post

        It was just a really rough outline.
        And most of everything in the OP only skimmed the surface...

        I think that if Tom *really* expanded on each idea, included diagrams, an action plan, checklist, calendar... it could easily go for $47+.
        True.. It is rather rough on the whole, but there's still enough info to actually get moving. I think there's enough here to put something in action, if you don't try to go adding tons of steps.

        Assuming I were to add videos and such, and walk someone through exactly what I'm doing each step though... Now there's a good product.

        Originally Posted by JacksonRiddle View Post

        Also just an SEO tip I have been using recently, do a google search for traffic travis (its free) and then once you have your article you can see how well the on page factors are for SEO.

        You can also see how easy it would be to rank for your keyword.
        For sure! That's an awesome resource, and best of all it's free, so once again you're utilizing free resources for incredible headway. Fits into the overall scheme of things with this method as well.

        Thanks for throwing that out there, I'm a fan of Traffic Travis.

        Originally Posted by rchudej1 View Post

        SirTom,

        I salute you!
        Dammit, I salute you right back

        Originally Posted by rchudej1 View Post

        This is a solid advice and one should run with it. If you are not success the 1st time, or the 10th time what will you do??? --> Analyze what you did, or better yet let the good people here guide you the way on how to improve your approach then try again, and again until you make it!
        Hell yeah, that's some gold right there. The beauty or this method is that it can go really quick, so testing and tweaking can be done in a relatively short amount of time, with a relatively small budget (or no budget).

        Both of which are good for beginners, who want fast gratification without spending a dime.

        Originally Posted by Grace26 View Post

        Thanks Tom for such valuable information. I bought a course by someone which mentioned that one should sign up at Tubemogul, Jing etc without any further explanation on what I should do or what exactly I will get from these places. I was literally hanging in the air, hence no progress was ever made at all. God bless you!
        Absolutely! I'm happy you found it so useful.

        I hate it when products do that, btw. I've bought a few myself that literally left me hanging, so I know how it feels. When I put out content, whether free or paid (in this case free), I don't want people to feel like they can't go out and apply it.

        In other words, I want people to be able to use the advice I give, not just say "Oh do this and that, then download this and use that too." You can't do anything with that

        Originally Posted by rottenpuppets View Post

        Great guide and walk through, thank you.

        I spend most of my time doing my entertainment stuff and promotion of those sites so I already know about things like Article Submitter and some of the other basics but the Jing/Presentation thing I never knew about!!

        ....I'm going to go through your steps 1 by 1 and give it a go with my one idea. I've never done one of these list building / squeeze things before so it'll be fun to learn something new along the way.
        Thanks!
        Ah Jing and content syndication is amazing, my friend! There's so many tricks of the trade. You don't have to dump in hours and hours of work to get sweet results anymore. That's one small thing you can do, but between the backlinks to the videos, exposure on the video sites, and other benefits, you're looking at some decent traffic coming your way

        If you get stuck, let me know. With squeeze pages and such, it can get pretty confusing if you're unfamiliar with FTP and domains/hosting etc. Well, that goes with anything really. Just hit me up if you need help

        Originally Posted by sakkie666 View Post

        Thank you Tom for sharing this information, I'm still new myself and this info is indeed quality over and over compared to some of the programs I paid for in the past.
        That's what I was going for. I hope you use this and make money! If you do, let me know. If you don't, let me know where you're stuck and I'll make it so you do.

        Originally Posted by bigalan6622 View Post

        Can you cancel your Aweber Subscription at any time? Like say after the first $1 month I want to cancel?
        Sure can.. I think you can just submit a support ticket to them and they'll take care of it. Their customer service has been nothing less than amazing from my experience, so it should be relatively hassle free.

        Originally Posted by Renaisscance View Post

        cool! How do I use a different template than those built into aweber?
        Those are all found in the form set-up sequence. As you're going through, you can choose which of the various forms to create. Some have regular templates and some are themed, it depends on what you want. If you get stuck, I think there's video tutorials in the service, as well as support desk to help you out.
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      Originally Posted by bigalan6622 View Post

      Can you cancel your Aweber Subscription at any time? Like say after the first $1 month I want to cancel?
      yeah but if you do it right you won't have to. Why would you cancel your list if it's making you money.

      Your getting yourself into a bad thought pattern from the beginning. If you don't think you can make the money you mine as well not even try.
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  • Profile picture of the author mreyn
    I'm very new to all this. I'm interested in buying an affiliate niche blog or website. I've seen all the ...."you can make xxxxxx amounts per day per site!" information. I was interested in buying one from someone and asked if $30 per day per site income would be more realistic and yet easy to do. they honestly told me no. That there is alot to learn about getting traffic to the site, continuously building it, etc. I do appreciate the honest. However, is that correct? any honest answers appreciated. I do expect to have several sites, as I know some may do better than others. I am also worried about duplicate content. any advice appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author centol
    excelent tips ....thx
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  • Profile picture of the author chewster
    Great advice for Newbies...Must remember that it is never really easy at first...New lingo, new experiences and really easy to get overwelmed. Most folks miss the most important part which is get started....

    The blueprint is here just go out and do it and you will be ahead of 75% of the folks you know...Don't get caught up in big market Vs little market, go thru the paces and learn as you go....

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  • Profile picture of the author amenwolf
    Thanks for the tip,

    I'm always stuck somewhere, but ain't quite sure where. Been doing affiliate marketing for a few months now.

    Seeing a few dollars here and there.. I'm guessing still much more to learn.
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    • Profile picture of the author sirtom
      Originally Posted by chewster View Post

      Great advice for Newbies...Must remember that it is never really easy at first...New lingo, new experiences and really easy to get overwelmed. Most folks miss the most important part which is get started....

      The blueprint is here just go out and do it and you will be ahead of 75% of the folks you know...Don't get caught up in big market Vs little market, go thru the paces and learn as you go....
      That bolded part is the cream of the crop lol. I totally understand the "new lingo" part, and in and of itself can be daunting enough. Especially if you get sucked into email lists or even start reading all the threads on the WF here. On this forum alone there's SO much info on making money, from all different experience levels and methodologies, and if you jump into them it can often be paralyzing. Paralysis by analysis, as it goes.

      Although you can't get away from the actual terminology completely, I did try to simplify it in this post. I especially tried to demystify "list building", which is really the meat and potatoes of this thread: Build a list by leading with value and monetize it.

      But yeah... If you're focusing on big v. little markets, your focus is wrong. Go through the motions and take action. Get something up, because no matter how good it is, it's WAY better than nothing at all.

      Originally Posted by amenwolf View Post

      Thanks for the tip,

      I'm always stuck somewhere, but ain't quite sure where. Been doing affiliate marketing for a few months now.

      Seeing a few dollars here and there.. I'm guessing still much more to learn.
      When I get stuck, it's usually because I'm trying to do too many things at once. That's normally the case, so when I find myself in a rut, I take a break and step back and look at what I'm doing. Then I try to eliminate what I don't need.

      For instance, during one occasion after stepping back, feeling like I was getting no where, I looked at what I was doing and realized I was working on 3 different things at once.

      You want to know the best way to NOT make progress?

      Trying to do more than one thing at a time.

      Shortly after that, I figured out what of the tasks I was doing that was going to make me the most money the fastest, and did that until it was done.

      On the second note: yeah, there's a LOT to learn, but that doesn't mean you can't have some success on the way. I learn new things every day (I make it a point to), and I've already made substantial money online.

      The point is: you're never going to know it all, so you have to accept the fact that there's always going to be a ton of stuff you don't know. But, that absolutely should not hinder taking action and doing things to move in a positive direction.

      As I've said in this post many a time: if you're stuck, Google it. If you still can't find an answer, ask someone. Hell, PM me or hit me up on Skype if you want to; I'll help ya.

      But apart from that, this outline should serve as a pretty good starting point if you're totally unsure about what to do or where to go.
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      • Profile picture of the author amenwolf
        Originally Posted by sirtom View Post

        When I get stuck, it's usually because I'm trying to do too many things at once. That's normally the case, so when I find myself in a rut, I take a break and step back and look at what I'm doing. Then I try to eliminate what I don't need.

        For instance, during one occasion after stepping back, feeling like I was getting no where, I looked at what I was doing and realized I was working on 3 different things at once.

        You want to know the best way to NOT make progress?

        Trying to do more than one thing at a time.

        Shortly after that, I figured out what of the tasks I was doing that was going to make me the most money the fastest, and did that until it was done.

        On the second note: yeah, there's a LOT to learn, but that doesn't mean you can't have some success on the way. I learn new things every day (I make it a point to), and I've already made substantial money online.

        The point is: you're never going to know it all, so you have to accept the fact that there's always going to be a ton of stuff you don't know. But, that absolutely should not hinder taking action and doing things to move in a positive direction.

        As I've said in this post many a time: if you're stuck, Google it. If you still can't find an answer, ask someone. Hell, PM me or hit me up on Skype if you want to; I'll help ya.

        But apart from that, this outline should serve as a pretty good starting point if you're totally unsure about what to do or where to go.
        Glad I came to this forum.
        Thanks for the advice,
        Ya been quite multitasking with a few niche.... guess i should try start focusing on just one.
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    thanks, great info!
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  • Profile picture of the author HosoiLover96
    this post is awesome dude. im a newbie because i havent made money online yet but this post was simply the basics and i love that. its true in everything that the basics are proven to yield the best results. thank you so much for this post man.
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  • Profile picture of the author TDCrog
    Sounds easy enough. Thanks for the quick review.
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  • Profile picture of the author jjeeezy
    This is very basic information everyone knows already... :/
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  • Profile picture of the author dsprank
    Great article Tom. I am sure that this will help many new people out. You may have even save some a few thousand in books, videos, ect.
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  • Profile picture of the author hometutor
    Nice step by stepper. Two comments

    Copy a martial artists article and you may be in for a suprise

    I'd recommend Kompozer over NV. Kompozer doesn't mess with my CSS

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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
    Another cookie cutter feel good thread that skews reality and encourages illegal activity.... and sends unsuspecting beginners down a path which has them working on a project which has no grounds for a solid reliable business.

    Sure, this is great if you want to earn about $0.05 per hour, but if you want to start a real business and avoid having your electricity switched off at the board when you're 75, and only having one pair of pants to piss in, then I would suggest spending your time working smart, not hard.

    If you think I'm being mean or just trying to poop on your parade, then I suggest you follow the advice and report back with your earnings after a very hard month of grunt work.

    And then come back in 6 months and we'll compare notes.
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    • Profile picture of the author Edk
      Originally Posted by Nick Brighton View Post

      Another cookie cutter feel good thread that skews reality and encourages illegal activity.... and sends unsuspecting beginners down a path which has them working on a project which has no grounds for a solid reliable business.

      Sure, this is great if you want to earn about $0.05 per hour, but if you want to start a real business and avoid having your electricity switched off at the board when you're 75, and only having one pair of pants to piss in, then I would suggest spending your time working smart, not hard.

      If you think I'm being mean or just trying to poop on your parade, then I suggest you follow the advice and report back with your earnings after a very hard month of grunt work.

      And then come back in 6 months and we'll compare notes.
      OK, I'm one of the folks taking this seriously. What's your variation or your version that'll make us tons more? This isn't being sarcastic it's a genuine question. [Actually he's answered the question elsewhere on this thread. I just hadn't seen it]
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  • Profile picture of the author Venturetothetop
    I used a similar system for some time, alongside my own products and yes, it does bring results.
    BUT, I am strongly against copying content. Pick a niche you know something about and can add value too.

    If you remember not only to submit articles but to actively seek 1 or 2 blogs each day in your niche to comment on, then slowly as an unintended consequnece you will also start rising in the search engine rankings, which is another great traffic generating scheme.

    What I like about this system is you do not have to worry about SEO as the op's methods generate their own traffic. Let the SEO happen on its own... one less thing to worry about.

    To all the haters, if it costs you $10 and a week of your liife, then even if it earns you nothing you will have learnt more then you imagine. You will have set up a site, autoresponder, thank you page, follow up email series and some traffic generation methods. A complete system which is better then perhaps 90% of people who try internet marketing. (Just ignore the OP's copying content bit, I don't like that - even if its also suggested in the 4 hour work week)
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    • Profile picture of the author Edk
      Originally Posted by Venturetothetop View Post

      I used a similar system for some time, alongside my own products and yes, it does bring results.
      BUT, I am strongly against copying content. Pick a niche you know something about and can add value too.

      If you remember not only to submit articles but to actively seek 1 or 2 blogs each day in your niche to comment on, then slowly as an unintended consequnece you will also start rising in the search engine rankings, which is another great traffic generating scheme.

      What I like about this system is you do not have to worry about SEO as the op's methods generate their own traffic. Let the SEO happen on its own... one less thing to worry about.

      To all the haters, if it costs you $10 and a week of your liife, then even if it earns you nothing you will have learnt more then you imagine. You will have set up a site, autoresponder, thank you page, follow up email series and some traffic generation methods. A complete system which is better then perhaps 90% of people who try internet marketing. (Just ignore the OP's copying content bit, I don't like that - even if its also suggested in the 4 hour work week)
      Heh I never knew about that 2 blogs a day business! I just find a couple of blogs, then presumably put my link/web address in there. I've commented on a guy called Josh's blog and another that's because they mail me but I'll get onto some of that stuff. But I'll keep them out of my inbox!
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      • Profile picture of the author srumsley
        Originally Posted by jjeeezy View Post

        This is very basic information everyone knows already... :/
        Actually, no it's not......... I'm a member of 'everyone' and have been online doing IM 3 years and did not know about this method.

        Originally Posted by Nick Brighton View Post

        Another cookie cutter feel good thread that skews reality and encourages illegal activity.... and sends unsuspecting beginners down a path which has them working on a project which has no grounds for a solid reliable business.

        Sure, this is great if you want to earn about $0.05 per hour, but if you want to start a real business and avoid having your electricity switched off at the board when you're 75, and only having one pair of pants to piss in, then I would suggest spending your time working smart, not hard.

        If you think I'm being mean or just trying to poop on your parade, then I suggest you follow the advice and report back with your earnings after a very hard month of grunt work.

        And then come back in 6 months and we'll compare notes.
        I think you are being overly hard. As SirTom says, try it before you shoot it down in flames, surely that's only fair?
        And encouraging illegal activity? Or, as someone else said, copying content? I checked, and I don't see where the OP says to do that. It said to re-write content that you feel is relevant. I don't believe this is unethical when done right. Hey, for years in school we are taught to research and re-write something in our own words. This can actually add value to the web since we all know that there are things we just don't get until someone else rephrases it. And you can add a paragraph of new tips you learnt elsewhere. No problem, and I'm pretty strict about doing the right thing.

        Genuinely helpful post, SirTom. Yes, others have got a point when they say not everyone will find this easy - I tried to use Aweber a couple of years ago and couldn't make sense of it at all, so I have avoided listbuilding since. But I think I am ready to try again. SOME IM exposure is probably a pre-requisite to being able to follow your advice, but you have offered personal help, so, in my book, that covers a lot of learning gaps.

        Well done!

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        • Profile picture of the author sirtom
          Originally Posted by mreyn View Post

          I'm very new to all this. I'm interested in buying an affiliate niche blog or website. I've seen all the ...."you can make xxxxxx amounts per day per site!" information. I was interested in buying one from someone and asked if $30 per day per site income would be more realistic and yet easy to do. they honestly told me no. That there is alot to learn about getting traffic to the site, continuously building it, etc. I do appreciate the honest. However, is that correct? any honest answers appreciated. I do expect to have several sites, as I know some may do better than others. I am also worried about duplicate content. any advice appreciated.
          Hey there! First, I wouldn't buy any 'ready-made' website or anything unless you know what you're buying. I'd much rather you just follow almost free information like what's in this post, if for nothing else than to learn the basics like autoresponders, list building, squeeze pages, etc.

          It's THAT that's going to get you experience and help develop skill set that only people that take action will have. Plus, after you learn the basics, you may even be able to create your own affiliate websites for cheaper than what you'd buy them for, only if they break down you'll know how to fix them.

          The other thing I've seen that I'd look out for is this: sometimes, affiliates sell those websites as just the structure. Then it's up to you to drive traffic, and in the event you're just starting out, you'll be completely stuck, only with money in the hole

          I'd highly encourage you to try this post out. It's cheap (possibly under $10), and it can take under a week to do, so there's very little overhead and the potential to do some damage


          Originally Posted by HosoiLover96 View Post

          this post is awesome dude. im a newbie because i havent made money online yet but this post was simply the basics and i love that. its true in everything that the basics are proven to yield the best results. thank you so much for this post man.
          Thanks bro


          Originally Posted by jjeeezy View Post

          This is very basic information everyone knows already... :/
          Really? Even about the content syndication? I remember another member saying he paid for information that told him less, and I expanded on what that said to do. So in the very least, it's slightly better than what another person might charge for.

          And on another note: this IS basic information. It works, too. I just hope you're making money right now, because I am and I use this method to do so all the time, so that means it doesn't matter if it's basic or not; it works and can help others as well.


          Originally Posted by Nick Brighton View Post

          Another cookie cutter feel good thread that skews reality and encourages (1) illegal activity.... and sends unsuspecting beginners down a path which has them working on a project which has (2) no grounds for a solid reliable business.

          Sure, this is great if you want to earn about (3) $0.05 per hour, but if you want to start a real business and avoid having your electricity switched off at the board when you're 75, and only having one pair of pants to piss in, then I would suggest spending your time (4) working smart, not hard.

          If you think I'm being mean or just trying to (5) poop on your parade, then I suggest you follow the advice and report back with your earnings after a very hard month of grunt work.

          And then come back in (6) 6 months and we'll compare notes.
          I'm sorry you feel that way. Out of curiosity, is anything you say here grounded in experience? Because everything I've described in this thread IS, and I wasn't lying about anything nor intentionally holding much back. I'm just wondering, since you make some pretty outlandish claims that I know to be false from my own experience.

          Here's what, exactly:

          1.) I'm sorry, did you see anything about illegal activity in this post? Copying content would surely qualify, so if you were to copy and paste into a reply where I mentioned to copy content, I could rectify that. Don't assume things nor jump to conclusions; I said re-write their articles. There's a huge difference, one being legal one being illegal. You clearly misunderstood, but for your sake I added a note under that exact paragraph in the OP.

          2.) An online subscriber list, being one of the most value business assets, is definitely grounds for a "solid reliable business", if you build it on providing value to others. You can argue this all you want, but so you know, my experience is going to trump your argument. Perhaps we've had clashing experiences, but I teach what I know, not rehashed theory.

          3.) $0.05/hour? Woah... Clearly you either haven't used a method like this, or haven't used this method; it's either one or the other. That's as deep as I'm going on this one, since I don't think you know what you're talking about. Again, my experience, in addition to the experience of several people that have used this to get awesome results, clashes with your comments.

          4.) I believe I cover working smart in this thread, check the 'content syndication' sequence under Step 5. As for the rest: it's a one-time commitment to get this off the ground, which can be done in under a week even with learning the essentials (like using an autoresponder) and registering to the sites I described (TubeMogel, etc). Not bad, I'd say, especially with that incredibly low initial cost. I even told how I got the actual grunt work- traffic generation- down to 1.5 hours a day. Trust me, I'm all about working smart. There's some things that you need to do which take time though, regardless of how smart you're working. But, the scalability of this model is ridiculous. For instance, you can later outsource the article creation, syndication, and other components of the funnel, which will essentially give you an online business that runs on almost-autopilot.

          5.) Well you are. You're pooping on a parade I blatantly know to produce results, all the while you sit there and allude to how it doesn't or it won't. I hope people do report back to me with results, and in fact I've already talked to quite a few people that Skyped me/PMed me from this thread telling me of their progress. As for grunt work- trust me, if you put in grunt work, like real grunt work (or just syndicate the content working smart, not hard), then you'll be quite pleased with the results.

          6.) I officially have a reminder set up for January 22nd, 2011 to prove you wrong. And you will be proven wrong.

          Point being: if you want to give this a go, then do it. But before shooting ANYTHING down, make sure it does or doesn't work for yourself. I take offense to much of what you said, solely because I know from personal experience that you're wrong. You're being cocky and assuming authority where I don't think you have grounds to. Unless of course you've already tried exactly what I've offered here and know it to not work. But if not, we'll talk on January 22nd, 2011 to compare notes.

          If you'd like to talk about it further or have any other comments, please PM me or Skype me; there's no reason to do so here.

          As for everyone else, I hope you at least give this a shot. You really don't have much to lose, nor anything expensive product to buy. And as always, you can PM me with questions, etc.

          Originally Posted by Venturetothetop View Post

          I used a similar system for some time, alongside my own products and yes, it does bring results.
          BUT, I am strongly against copying content. Pick a niche you know something about and can add value too.

          If you remember not only to submit articles but to actively seek 1 or 2 blogs each day in your niche to comment on, then slowly as an unintended consequnece you will also start rising in the search engine rankings, which is another great traffic generating scheme.

          What I like about this system is you do not have to worry about SEO as the op's methods generate their own traffic. Let the SEO happen on its own... one less thing to worry about.

          To all the haters, if it costs you $10 and a week of your liife, then even if it earns you nothing you will have learnt more then you imagine. You will have set up a site, autoresponder, thank you page, follow up email series and some traffic generation methods. A complete system which is better then perhaps 90% of people who try internet marketing. (Just ignore the OP's copying content bit, I don't like that - even if its also suggested in the 4 hour work week)
          I don't mention copying content, and I totally agree with the following statement on choosing something you're familiar with that you can add value to. That's the best bet, since as a rule of thumb: the more value you can provide, the better off you'll be.

          As for the SEO.. It can totally be a nightmare haha. It's also something completely not user-friendly, and as far as return/time spent, I think there's better ways of getting traffic initially. Like content syndication, which may actually get some rankings for you as a bi-product, especially if you take up the Traffic Guyser trial and blast some videos out there.

          I gotta say, thanks for the comments about the method here, directed at the haters lol. I'm not asking for an arm and a leg with this post, and aren't even charging for the information (which I think covers some good stuff). Thanks for the support
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    good advice for Beginners.
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  • Profile picture of the author DHumphrey
    Hi Tom - nice post ! I am a relative newbie and found it helpful. There is so much hype out there about how easy it is, join this scheme and get rich etc etc that it is difficult to know which way to turn and yes I do get easily distracted !

    I am still learning new things every day which is great but yet to make any real money online. I've been putting my toes into the water for the last 12mths and spent more than I would have liked to get less info than you have given.

    I think the main thing is focus and motivation - you aren't going to get rich overnight but if you can put regular steps into action and start seeing results there is no reason why you can't be on the path to success. I was previously in the corporate world and it took me over 10 yrs to reach the dizzy heights so I know I still have a lot to learn about the world of internet marketing.

    Thanks for sharing
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  • Profile picture of the author -Sam
    Is it important to have your own website which is just about you , before getting in this business?
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    • Profile picture of the author sirtom
      Originally Posted by srumsley View Post

      Actually, no it's not......... I'm a member of 'everyone' and have been online doing IM 3 years and did not know about this method.

      I think you are being overly hard. As SirTom says, try it before you shoot it down in flames, surely that's only fair?
      And encouraging illegal activity? Or, as someone else said, copying content? I checked, and I don't see where the OP says to do that. It said to re-write content that you feel is relevant. I don't believe this is unethical when done right. Hey, for years in school we are taught to research and re-write something in our own words. This can actually add value to the web since we all know that there are things we just don't get until someone else rephrases it. And you can add a paragraph of new tips you learnt elsewhere. No problem, and I'm pretty strict about doing the right thing.

      Genuinely helpful post, SirTom. Yes, others have got a point when they say not everyone will find this easy - I tried to use Aweber a couple of years ago and couldn't make sense of it at all, so I have avoided listbuilding since. But I think I am ready to try again. SOME IM exposure is probably a pre-requisite to being able to follow your advice, but you have offered personal help, so, in my book, that covers a lot of learning gaps.

      Well done!

      Sue
      Thanks Sue! You rock

      I'm very happy you found the post useful. Let me know how you're doing too, and if you decide to try this out. And also, PM me if you need help with aWeber or anything. Or just Skype me lol, I'm here to chat . There's really no getting around list building in my book.. Especially using this method, which makes it considerably easier than other methods/courses out there (many of which you have to pay for)..


      Originally Posted by DHumphrey View Post

      Hi Tom - nice post ! I am a relative newbie and found it helpful. There is so much hype out there about how easy it is, join this scheme and get rich etc etc that it is difficult to know which way to turn and yes I do get easily distracted !

      I am still learning new things every day which is great but yet to make any real money online. I've been putting my toes into the water for the last 12mths and spent more than I would have liked to get less info than you have given.

      I think the main thing is focus and motivation - you aren't going to get rich overnight but if you can put regular steps into action and start seeing results there is no reason why you can't be on the path to success. I was previously in the corporate world and it took me over 10 yrs to reach the dizzy heights so I know I still have a lot to learn about the world of internet marketing.

      Thanks for sharing
      Deb
      You're very welcome Deb

      I also get easily distracted.. I don't think I had ADD (or felt like it) since I started internet marketing, and it's a huge challenge just blocking everything else out and focusing on one thing till it's completed. But you need to, and if you can do things to completion, you're going to be in a much better boat

      Skype me or hit me up otherwise if you need help or get stuck.


      Originally Posted by -Sam View Post

      Is it important to have your own website which is just about you , before getting in this business?
      Hey Sam,

      Not for this, no. You're going to be an affiliate in most cases, so there's really no need for the branding a website about you would provide.

      You may want to get your own domain though, Firstname+Lastname.com, just for safe keeping though

      I'll expand on this a little bit later..
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    I've gain too much from you and i am going to take action immediately .

    thanks a lot.
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    It's posts like this that give me hope in finding a way to begin earning real money. I wish people would be less judgmental, instead of ripping someone apart for sharing something they could have easily sold. Taking the time to share valuable information with newbies like me is certainly going above and beyond, so THANK YOU AGAIN!
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  • Profile picture of the author goalpower
    Sirtom:

    Thanks for this FREE down and dirty guide to making money online. I really like how you keep reminding people to take action without overanalyzing things and to do some personal research and self education.

    It's amazing how everything a person needs to learn to make money online is already out there for free if they just being lazy and take action to find the answers and apply them.

    Thanks for helping our newbies out here of the WF.

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    • Profile picture of the author sirtom
      Originally Posted by goalpower View Post

      Sirtom:

      Thanks for this FREE down and dirty guide to making money online. I really like how you keep reminding people to take action without overanalyzing things and to do some personal research and self education.

      It's amazing how everything a person needs to learn to make money online is already out there for free if they just being lazy and take action to find the answers and apply them.

      Thanks for helping our newbies out here of the WF.

      Steve
      Hey Steve,

      No problem on the guide, I hope people use it! It's SO true: everything one would need is already on here, it comes down to discovering what you want to do, or discovering a model that works, and sticking to it until you see results. Preferably following one that you can scale up, that is.

      And this is partially in response to other comments as well, but the over-analysis and info overload kills people and can delay action entirely; it did for me when I first got going (even a year after I'd been 'in the game').

      That's why I stress the things I do, taking action and simplifying things. Granted, I may seem to over-simplify things creating an unrealistic picture, but otherwise it leads to inaction.

      For example, from the other response, this thread doesn't cover:

      • sales copy (bullet points, headlines, body copy, etc)
      • site design
      • USP
      • sales hook
      • benefits v. features (and such)
      ...But from a beginner's perspective, those are all reason NOT to take action. If I were to list all those things in the post, as in "You have to learn this, this and this...", those are all roadblocks that I think lead to paralysis by analysis. I'd much rather someone went out there and did the basics, then worried about the other things AFTER they already had something going.

      You can always tweak copy, headlines, articles, etc. You can test for conversions. But if you don't have anything out there, live, getting traffic and visitors, what good are all the smaller elements that make up the whole?

      End point: if you're the only one seeing your site or offer, nothing else matters. Do something to completion and launch it. You'll gain tons of experience in the process, and learn valuable skills that will hopefully enable you to succeed online. In addition to possibly even making you money in the process.

      Thanks again Steve, appreciate the feedback

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    Great pieces of tips! I've had a lot of successes with finding markets over Clickbank. And it's true, finding markets and then cutting it down to smaller niches will make you stand out better. Actually, I've also had one of my virtual staff run a campaign of her interest for me and earned from that as well...easily without me doing it.

    Really, it is about taking action with the the valuable things you come across the Internet and persistence in everything you do whether it be training your staff or doing it all by yourself.
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    • Profile picture of the author Marian
      This kind of threads is very useful. I just had to subscibe!

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      • Profile picture of the author sirtom
        Originally Posted by cocanuting View Post

        is the 'auto responder' necessary? Isn't it the same thing as I would try to make people subscribe and submit their email to me for some daily newsletter which I would make promoting more products?
        I'd say Yes.. You're going to want some kind of software to collect names and email addresses on your squeeze page, and an autoresponder (such as Aweber) is the easiest way to go. There are free ones out there, I think one may have even been mentioned in this thread, but regardless, I'd definitely recommend one.

        As for the newsletter part, the goal of the autoresponder is this (in order):
        1. Deliver the content the visitors opt in to get
        2. Make sure they got the content, which will give you another chance to communicate with them
        3. (Optional: send them more free content, such as funny/interesting niche-related Youtube videos or articles)
        4. Survey the subscriber list to see what content they're most interested in receiving
        5. Give them that information (the information they told you they wanted from step 3), either as more great free content, or as a product you can sell to them
        That's pretty much it lol.

        Originally Posted by tyroneshum View Post

        Really, it is about taking action with the the valuable things you come across the Internet and persistence in everything you do whether it be training your staff or doing it all by yourself.
        Heck yeah it is!

        Also, being able to apply what you learn to what you're doing, instead of getting distracted by new things and going off in other directions.

        Originally Posted by Marian View Post

        This kind of threads is very useful. I just had to subscibe! Marian
        Thank you

        I hope you learn some good tips. If you need help with anything, or if you're in the process of implementing the method in this thread, just let me know what you're doing and how I can help

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  • Profile picture of the author Maro
    Greetings from germany

    I just read your Beginners Thread three times now, and as u can think im very new in Internet Marketing.
    Right now it sounds very interesting to me, but i think i could still miss something. Could u please watch over my checklist and tell me if i forgot something?

    1) Find a niche
    2) Find a good product
    3) Check related keywords
    4) Set up a page
    5) Install an Autoresponder
    6) Rewrite 2-3 articles for the start (with a link to your homepage)
    7) ReWrite 1-2 new articles every day
    8) Spread them by using the mentioned software
    9) Turn them into Videos using screens and a mic
    10) Upload them on video portals, for example tubemogul
    11) Spread the link by using it as a signature in niche related forums
    10) Let people who land on your Page type in their email address
    11) send them an email via autoresponder with your affiliate link from, for example, clickbank
    12) Send them an email with alternating text, and your affiliate link, every day

    Btw this was supposed to be an PM, but i got a too low Post Count : (
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter J
    Tom thanks for taking the time out of your busy day to help educate people on one of the many ways to research a subject and take action on it. There is so much information out there breaking it down into steps help people realize you can approach this methodically and take a pragmatic approach. Responders have to relaize there are a lot of potential customers on here and and free information helps!
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    • Profile picture of the author sirtom
      Originally Posted by Edk View Post

      OK, I'm one of the folks taking this seriously.
      Hey I'm glad you are! Let me know how it's going as well and where you're at. Just PM me or something

      Originally Posted by Maro View Post

      Greetings from germany

      I just read your Beginners Thread three times now, and as u can think im very new in Internet Marketing.
      Right now it sounds very interesting to me, but i think i could still miss something. Could u please watch over my checklist and tell me if i forgot something?

      1) Find a niche
      2) Find a good product
      3) Check related keywords
      4) Set up a page
      5) Install an Autoresponder
      6) Rewrite 2-3 articles for the start (with a link to your homepage)
      7) ReWrite 1-2 new articles every day
      8) Spread them by using the mentioned software
      9) Turn them into Videos using screens and a mic
      10) Upload them on video portals, for example tubemogul
      11) Spread the link by using it as a signature in niche related forums
      10) Let people who land on your Page type in their email address
      11) send them an email via autoresponder with your affiliate link from, for example, clickbank
      12) Send them an email with alternating text, and your affiliate link, every day

      Btw this was supposed to be an PM, but i got a too low Post Count : (
      No worries Maro! Thanks for stopping by and reaching out.

      Here are the things I'd change from how you broke the method down in your outline above:

      1) Find a niche
      2) Check related keywords to verify that people are searching for that niche (Just make sure there's search volume for related keywords, signifying that people are looking for information on that topic)
      3) Find a problem people in that niche are having (you can use niche-related forums to do this; see "Step 2" in the main post), then Google search the problem to find the answer
      4) Set up a single squeeze page (where the only thing someone can do is opt in to your list) to give the answer to that problem away in exchange for a name and email address
      5) Install an Autoresponder on said squeeze page
      6) Rewrite 2-3 articles for the start (with a link to your squeeze page)
      7) Rewrite 1-2 new articles every day, then using those articles...
      8) Spread them by using the mentioned software
      9) Turn them into Videos using screens and a mic
      10) Upload them on video portals, for example TubeMogul
      11) Spread the link (to your squeeze page) by using it as a signature in niche-related forums
      10) Send ALL traffic to your squeeze page and have opting into your list be the only option on your squeeze page. So, the people who land on your squeeze page type in their name + email address, opting into your email list.
      11) Send them an email right away via autoresponder with a link to where they can download the information they opted in to receive (either a direct link or you can use a "Thank You" page, mentioned in the original post).
      12) Don't email the list every day.
      13) Survey the list to see what kind of information they're looking for.

      (Once you know that, you can either find a product that fits their needs, via Clickbank or other affiliate program, or you could create your own product to sell to them, which is slightly more advanced but no more difficult.)

      Hope this helps to clarify . If you're still stuck or need clarification on anything, let me know where or on what and we'll go from there!

      Originally Posted by Peter J View Post

      Tom thanks for taking the time out of your busy day to help educate people on one of the many ways to research a subject and take action on it. There is so much information out there breaking it down into steps help people realize you can approach this methodically and take a pragmatic approach. Responders have to relaize there are a lot of potential customers on here and and free information helps!
      Thanks Peter! No problem, by the way Glad you liked the post. I'd agree with you: free information helps. However... Free information that someone can immediately apply to possibly make money, though.. Now THAT helps even more.

      That was the goal here, and I'm happy to see from both the responses and the PMs/messages/contacts I've been receiving that people are taking action on this.

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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    Good information for newbies. I'll add an important thing - write about what you know. Believe me it really does show in your writing quality. My Hubpages on topics I know something about have been much more successful than when I'm pretending I'm an expert in a niche.
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    • Profile picture of the author sirtom
      Originally Posted by brettb View Post

      Good information for newbies. I'll add an important thing - write about what you know. Believe me it really does show in your writing quality. My Hubpages on topics I know something about have been much more successful than when I'm pretending I'm an expert in a niche.
      That's good advice..

      You know, while we're on the topic, I hope people don't get too concerned about "content". You can do a surprising amount with just a little content.

      As with the more detailed version I talked about in the "Advanced Breakdown" part of the OP, just one article can generate a large amount of traffic. First you blast it to the article directories (which can be as many or few as you want, since you put the time in for registering to them), then you have the video-sharing sites from TubeMogul. And that's all not assuming you didn't grab Traffic Guyser for a buck and hit up the social media or bookmarking sites.

      Good times
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  • Profile picture of the author stephie614
    I have my web site set up. I have written articles. Followed directions to end. Hard work is not an issue here. Time is a little scrunched, only have about 3 to 4 hours a day to spare, but working the web as much as I can. Still nothing. I do get confused :confused: sometimes, but I reread the programs I have and rewatch the videos till I get it. Running out of cash and need to make some money - fast (anything to start will do) I know, been told thousands of times - do one time with results and repeat the system. Can't seem to get the one time. Maybe this added to what I have will help. Sure hope so.
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  • Profile picture of the author kcorps
    Wow!! What a comprehensive guidance tips. Thanks for kindly share with us.

    I hope you very good luck and can make thousands of money each day ^^V
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    • Profile picture of the author sirtom
      Originally Posted by kcorps View Post

      Wow!! What a comprehensive guidance tips. Thanks for kindly share with us.
      You're welcome What do you have going on now? Are you going to give this a go?
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  • Profile picture of the author Anup Mahajan
    You have done a nice job of breaking things down into actionable points.

    I am sure beginners who follow your tips to a T will make money.

    Of course the process is long and tedious but success doesn't come by chance, you need to work for it.

    Regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author hayden459
    hey friend, thank you very much for this invaluable info. It is really going to help me. You have mentioned some points which i have never heard before and they seems to be very effective.
    So i will try them all, thanks once again.
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    Thanks for this,step by step and not overly complicated.
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  • Profile picture of the author colinph970
    That's an excellent no bull post.....the steps might be work, but they can all be outsourced if needed.....although best to test it first to see the results - i.e. conversions, which are really what matters.
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  • Profile picture of the author BigMack
    i do this, except the autoresponder part... idk, people are not so happy to share theyre emails these days, haha.. oh that could just be me... lol...
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    • Profile picture of the author tonis
      i recently started to use these steps and already seeing progress..
      thank you!
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      Originally Posted by BigMack View Post

      i do this, except the autoresponder part... idk, people are not so happy to share theyre emails these days, haha.. oh that could just be me... lol...
      That's crazy talk! People love giving away their name and email for valuable information, your offer and your squeeze page have to be good though.
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      • Profile picture of the author sirtom
        Originally Posted by nicholasb View Post

        That's crazy talk! People love giving away their name and email for valuable information, your offer and your squeeze page have to be good though.
        So true..

        @BigMac: Those are two things you're going to have to split-test, by driving traffic to the squeeze page and seeing how it converts. You can change the copy, the bullet points (make sure you're using benefits and not features; benefits tell what the information will DO, features tell what it IS), and/or the information you're giving away (your offer).
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  • Profile picture of the author Derwin
    You have given nice article that how the beginners can make money. I m also beginner. It will help me lot. Your article is very helping. You have pointed many methods and tips which re much helpful.I appreciate you on this great effort. Thank You
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    • Profile picture of the author sirtom
      Originally Posted by anup.mahajan View Post

      You have done a nice job of breaking things down into actionable points.
      That was the goal.. I've had enough of 'theory' and vague details and wanted to break out of the mold, so to say.

      Originally Posted by hayden459 View Post

      hey friend, thank you very much for this invaluable info. It is really going to help me. You have mentioned some points which i have never heard before and they seems to be very effective.
      So i will try them all, thanks once again.
      Sounds good! Let me know how it goes and if you need any help.

      Originally Posted by colinph970 View Post

      That's an excellent no bull post.....the steps might be work, but they can all be outsourced if needed.....although best to test it first to see the results - i.e. conversions, which are really what matters.
      Heck yeah bro, that's the real underlying secret to this. Once you get going and generate some revenue, you can break the steps into systems and reinvest the profits into outsourcing them.

      So, you can for the most part take yourself out of the equation and move on to the next niche... Just an idea

      Originally Posted by BigMack View Post

      i do this, except the autoresponder part... idk, people are not so happy to share theyre emails these days, haha.. oh that could just be me... lol...
      I'd keep trying .

      For the right information, enough people will give you their name and email. It all depends on how much traffic you drive to your site and what kind of information you're giving away.

      Originally Posted by tonis View Post

      i recently started to use these steps and already seeing progress..
      thank you!
      Awesome! PM me and let me know how it's going and where you're at.

      Originally Posted by Derwin View Post

      You have given nice article that how the beginners can make money. I m also beginner. It will help me lot. Your article is very helping. You have pointed many methods and tips which re much helpful.I appreciate you on this great effort. Thank You
      I hope you use it, my friend

      Let me know if I can help you out or point you in the right direction.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eddys Velasquez
    This is a good set of steps but the truth is that it is a hard path to take and it takes time definitely more than 1.5 hours but if you keep at it you will definitely make money.

    By the way this is how I started..I do network marketing now which I find a whole lot easier than affiliate marketing and a whole lot funner but affiliate marketing is the perfect place to start if your just starting out.

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    • Profile picture of the author sirtom
      Originally Posted by Eddys Velasquez View Post

      This is a good set of steps but the truth is that it is a hard path to take and it takes time definitely more than 1.5 hours but if you keep at it you will definitely make money.

      By the way this is how I started..I do network marketing now which I find a whole lot easier than affiliate marketing and a whole lot funner but affiliate marketing is the perfect place to start if your just starting out.

      Eddys Velasquez
      What's happenin Eddys,

      Yeah, it definitely takes longer than 1.5 hours to get this going. Usually about a day or so for the individual steps, more if you don't do them straight through (I indicated average time per step, which ranges from 20 minutes to a couple hours each)... And then you need to drive traffic lol.

      EDIT: Ah, I think you were talking about when I referenced 1.5 hours towards the end of the post. That's not for the whole system here; that's only for how long I now spend each day driving traffic to my squeeze pages, which I've "whittled down" from several more hours. It can get time-intensive until you develop a system for getting it done, which content syndicates surely help towards (TubeMogul/TrafficGuyser, Article Submitters, etc).

      Affiliate marketing is definitely the way to go, no doubt about it. Network marketing is solid as well, I do both myself and am pretty successful at each, but affiliate marketing tends to be more 'hands off', which appeals to the majority of the crowd.
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