How many of you are millionaires?

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With Warrior special offers promising to make you $5000, $10k and even up to 50k (!!!!!!!!!) per month, it made me think...

if you bought 10 of them and 20% worked...you could be making around 50k+ a month or in 2 years you would be a millionaire!!!!

Now something is very fishy here and the conclusion I can make is that less than .5 percent of Warrior forums actually deliver at most 50% of what they make and 99% of warrior products can make you .5% of what they promise (not anything scientific, just my free estimations.) What do you think?
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  • Profile picture of the author Oce@n
    I think you are asking a very interesting question. IMO there are definitely some millionaires, as well as tens of thousands of people making their full time income on the net, but your question about how many became millionaires after applying the info in those WSOs is welcomed. I've read some, and honnestly I was quite disappointed. Some have learnt me a few things but most of them were just great systems looking well on paper but who didn't have any practical application, as far as I know. Hence the $7 sale. I learned the most helpfull things to my business the hardway, by consistently testing and tweaking out things, which was 95% responsible of my success and let's say that I got 5% from insights received from various ebooks and courses. You learn the best from first hand experience, although having some information that propells you to the next level is welcomed.

    To answer your question, I would estimate the number of millionaires here at around 500 or more. Count all the gurus and add some other unknown but fat cats nonetheless.

    For me millionaire is someone with a million dollar or more in his bank account, after all his assets are already bought (house, car..)

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    • Profile picture of the author Vitaliy K
      Yes there are some TRASH WSOs, but there are also lots of
      good ones and honestly I learnt some good thing from some of them.

      Yes WSOs cannot make a millionaire of you, but they help to
      think in the right direction.

      I agree that testing is quite important if you wish
      to come out with the result and at some moment you have
      already enough experience to make lots of money
      with internet marketing.

      That´s my opinion

      :-))


      Originally Posted by Oce@n View Post

      I think you are asking a very interesting question. IMO there are definitely some millionaires, as well as tens of thousands of people making their full time income on the net, but your question about how many became millionaires after applying the info in those WSOs is welcomed. I've read some, and honnestly I was quite disappointed. Some have learnt me a few things but most of them were just great systems looking well on paper but who didn't have any practical application, as far as I know. Hence the $7 sale. I learned the most helpfull things to my business the hardway, by consistently testing and tweaking out things, which was 95% responsible of my success and let's say that I got 5% from insights received from various ebooks and courses. You learn the best from first hand experience, although having some information that propells you to the next level is welcomed.

      To answer your question, I would estimate the number of millionaires here at around 500 or more. Count all the gurus and add some other unknown but fat cats nonetheless.

      For me millionaire is someone with a million dollar or more in his bank account, after all his assets are already bought (house, car..)

      Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author Tony Dean
    Well, you did not get any 'millionaires' responding!

    Go figure!
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  • Profile picture of the author christopherNV
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    • Profile picture of the author Oce@n
      Originally Posted by christopherNV View Post

      well, most of the knuckleheads selling make a day or whatever, are probably not making that themselves.

      my guess, most are not breaking minimum wage, a minority are in the five figures range and a handful break six figures.
      I think too.

      Originally Posted by christopherNV View Post

      millionaires, might be a few lurking.

      but everyone wants you to believe that they are millionaires, or very very close, that is why you need to buy this super secret rags to riches report now for only $7! Sell 142,857 of those and your a buck away from being a millionaire.
      Yes, that's why each time I read on of these I have learnt to lower my expectations. There's so much crap out there that a WSO that has some practical use is very rare.

      For example, since around a year ago, it's the "offline gold rush". Everybody sells offline marketing information. Well, I've read quite a few, and applied everything, just to test the system and diversify my income, well, the response rate from offline business owners was much lower than the one told by the WSO author after the exact same emails were sent. That's why it's too rah to call them scam artists, but in the end it all comes down to it. The ability to sell a system that looks wonderful on paper so that people feel dumb to ask a refund, but in fact was never designed to work in the real world.

      That's why they sell those "Make 12K tomorrow" WSOs at only $7. If you really had that much faith into your system, you wouldn't price it that low.

      Originally Posted by christopherNV View Post

      If somebody is a millionaire they are not going to be trolling around the WF hawking ebooks unless they have a really really dull life, and in that case, share the wealth brother, I can make really good use of it
      Yes, true too. People busy making money don't lose their time too much, but we are always learning. Even if information plays only 5% of the success in your business, is still 5% worth investing your time into. And that's why I really believe that there are some millionaires here, who read this to learn new ideas they could implement in their business, or sometimes sell information here. I know it seem weird to interact with millionaires in a forum, with the picture I had of millionaires due to my education (not rich family), but with IM that's a whole different universe. Ordinary people can become millionaires. And millionaire 10 years ago isn't the same as today, with the fall of the dollar. Today, being a millionaire is pretty neat, but you don't have the same buying power as you did 10 years ago. It's pretty scary. That's why becoming a millionaire is still something to be extremely proud of but doesn't create the same prestige as before.

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    • Profile picture of the author Overnight
      Originally Posted by christopherNV View Post

      well, most of the knuckleheads selling make a day or whatever, are probably not making that themselves.

      my guess, most are not breaking minimum wage, a minority are in the five figures range and a handful break six figures.

      millionaires, might be a few lurking.

      but everyone wants you to believe that they are millionaires, or very very close, that is why you need to buy this super secret rags to riches report now for only $7! Sell 142,857 of those and your a buck away from being a millionaire.

      If somebody is a millionaire they are not going to be trolling around the WF hawking ebooks unless they have a really really dull life, and in that case, share the wealth brother, I can make really good use of it
      Thats a good response... i think your right about most of what you said.. i know i am not a millionaire but that is why i believe in video proof of what you really make. But i am well above minimum wage...

      I do think that if you can establish a good name for yourself and quality products you can make a good living.






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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Iannotti
    I'm far from a millionaire, but that is the plan.
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  • Profile picture of the author LB
    2 different issues...

    Are there millionaires here? Yes.

    Are most WSOs these days a joke? Yes, unfortunately- and I say that with a heavy heart as that forum used to be superb.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
      I'm actually working on my second million.

      I gave up on that first one a long time ago...

      ~Bill
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  • Profile picture of the author TimG
    Not yet but I'm steadily working my way closer to that reality one day like we all are.

    Honestly, if I was a millionaire I probably wouldn't be doing much Internet marketing because I would literally outsource everything from start to finish so that I could enjoy life with my family and friends.

    Respectfully,
    Tim
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Fullman
      Originally Posted by TimG View Post

      Not yet but I'm steadily working my way closer to that reality one day like we all are.

      Honestly, if I was a millionaire I probably wouldn't be doing much Internet marketing because I would literally outsource everything from start to finish so that I could enjoy life with my family and friends.

      Respectfully,
      Tim
      Respectfully back "atcha", Tim.

      I always enjoy your posts. Logical, meaningful, useful, and helpful. The full deck.

      Thanks,
      Steve
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    • Well said, Tim. But some (most?) of us enjoy life by doing internet marketing :p

      Originally Posted by TimG View Post

      Not yet but I'm steadily working my way closer to that reality one day like we all are.

      Honestly, if I was a millionaire I probably wouldn't be doing much Internet marketing because I would literally outsource everything from start to finish so that I could enjoy life with my family and friends.

      Respectfully,
      Tim
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  • Profile picture of the author ClickHere
    People keep for themselves whatever is making easy money.The best you get are tips to promote and sell your product, get some cheap traffic etc.

    Even when some claim like 'How i made $4 billion in one night while sleeping' is true, one is releasing the information because he can't make considerable money that way anymore, and so you won't too.
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    • Profile picture of the author rankontop
      Originally Posted by ClickHere View Post

      People keep for themselves whatever is making easy money.The best you get are tips to promote and sell your product, get some cheap traffic etc.

      Even when some claim like 'How i made $4 billion in one night while sleeping' is true, one is releasing the information because he can't make considerable money that way anymore, and so you won't too.
      Totally agree, made 27,000 in 14 days, but nothing that big since.
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      • Profile picture of the author dragondf
        DraeMKD:
        With Warrior special offers promising to make you $5000, $10k and even up to 50k (!!!!!!!!!) per month, it made me think...

        if you bought 10 of them and 20% worked...you could be making around 50k+ a month or in 2 years you would be a millionaire!!!!

        Now something is very fishy here and the conclusion I can make is that less than .5 percent of Warrior forums actually deliver at most 50% of what they make and 99% of warrior products can make you .5% of what they promise (not anything scientific, just my free estimations.) What do you think?

        Hello Everybody,

        I like this thread so much.
        I am trying to post something here for some days. But, every day I am so busy.. I come here, read more 2 posts.. and need to go out.

        Today NOT. Today I need to participate. My "2 cents", like people here say (I don't know why this expression.. but it is very used here).

        FIRST OF ALL:
        "How many of you are millionaires?"
        I am not, yet. But I will be, in a near time, if GOD wants.

        "Millionaires" are they here in this forum? Do they exist?

        Yes, I think they exist and they are NEAR us...eheheeh. Like an E.T. from the films. They can see what we do, they can get our ideas.. they can create ideas they know we will buy.

        I could talk a lot about this, but I will try to resume (write not very much).

        I will use some member's posts to get some ideas...

        Alexa Smith
        I think you're looking at it in terms of what the products themselves "make", and they just don't. Their users do/don't.

        Your reasoning's the same as saying "I joined Herbalife and made nothing, so that doesn't work. Then I joined AmWay and made nothing, so that doesn't work. Then I joined XYZ and made nothing, so that doesn't work". That may all be true, but it doesn't change the fact that some people in those companies have 7-figure incomes.

        YOU WROTE something very interesting. HERBALIFE! I will talk about it because it is in my country, too.
        What Herbalife does, in my opinion, is something near a PYRAMID idea. It makes people buy its products to get commissions in sales.
        Why do I choose Herbalife?
        Because "supplement food" is my nich. I am a specialist in Sports Nutrition.
        I have in our company a product with 500g of a kind of protein that costs R$ 20.00 (something near U$ 11.00). The same protein in Herbalife costs R$ 80.00 to final costumer (something near U$ 44.00).

        Can you understand the difference between the cost and the final price? Each Herbalife vendor, distributor, etc. get a commission, like we know in affiliate programs. Usually 25% to 50%.
        People go to beautiful places and people who says that are MILLIONAIRES selling Herbalife make people think: "YES, I CAN". A lot of them start with this, spend a lot of money and time.. and in the final: LOSE A LOT OF MONEY. People from the top of the Pyramid don't lose anything.

        AND WHAT DOES THIS HAVE WITH this thread?
        A lot of people here (sellers) use the same concept of Herbalife's people. They make you believe they are THE SOLUTION of ALL your problems (in INTERNET MARKETING, at least). With their ideas you can DOMINATE GOOGLE, EARN SO MUCH MONEY, etc.

        In spite of "Herbalife's model", I believe we have here people who Really knows what they are doing and how to use some of original ideas in the INTERNET MARKETING.
        I think this second group (the serious one) do a lot of money with these ORIGINAL IDEAS and, after a time, they try to SELL them. Why do they sell?
        Because we are in a Competitive marketing. People can see what you are doing after a time, when they receive your emails, look your domain address in a video of youTube, etc.
        So, before this happen, IT IS BETTER to sell the idea and EARN some money.
        Is this wrong? In my opinion, not.
        Teaching is something that give money. People want to get more knowledge and they can PAY for this.


        tehnoline:
        Some people's talk here and look on the word " millionaire" like it's not a simple man, it's a millionaire! Come on guys, if you are a millionaire you don't have the right to stay on a forum? If you are a millionaire you don't have the right to make a new product?
        Like I wrote in the start of this post... I believe they are here, sometimes to get NEW IDEAS and apply in their models of business, sometimes to sell their products. Rich people need of Poor people to buy their products.




        Nick Brighton
        I think most people are totally missing the point and intention of this thread.

        The OP's question is a guise for:

        "How can I make money online? Everything I have tried doesn't work... and I'm starting to become skecptical of the products sold in the WSO section because they didn't make me rich. Should I give up?"

        That's the real question. This has nothing to do with who's a millionaire or not.

        Well, I think he really want to know "How many of you are millionaires?", this is the title of this thread, so.. he does want to know this, too.
        In a specific way, he wants to know if people here, using all strategies that VENDORS sell here, if they are millionaires, if they got money with these ideas.



        Dennis Gaskill
        You're only 20! Good grief . . . if I had your intelligence when I was 20 I probably would be a millionaire now.
        In fact, in my opinion, only intelligence is not enough to make someone millionaire.
        I am an University teacher at night (during the day I work in others things) and I know a lot of teachers that are very intelligent people, but they are not near to be millionaire.

        I think to earn money you need to have a specific intelligence: business intelligence (maybe others like "competitive intelligence"..etc.).

        Alexa, I hope you arrive there, ok? Nothing again you.

        I have just expressed my opinion about "intelligence", not about your capacity.




        kiopa
        I'm only 28, but have traveled to dozens of countries, lived in many countries spanning three continents, met loads of interesting people, experienced many cultures, been married, been divorced, etc.
        Sorry, but this make me curious:
        And after ALL THIS THINGS, do you think that time you were happy?

        People usually use MONEY, TRAVELS, MORE MONEY, CARS, YATCH like a way to show a HAPPY LIFE.
        In my opinion, this is not true.
        Everyone can be happy.
        To be happy you don't need so much money.

        Maybe you answered my question here:

        "so it wasn't very difficult to meet millionaires (they're all over the place there). Honestly, none of them seemed particularly happy & fulfilled to me, or at least nothing special"
        Will Edwards
        I figured it would be easy enough. I put together a simple plan in that book and then I thought to myself: you know I will have to prove that this can be done, so I started ...

        ... 5 years later, I am still working on it

        BUT, I am getting closer.

        Thanks, Will, for your review and experience. I think you need to be a very good person to say the truth about your book and the practice by yourself.


        *** TO FINISH ***

        Why am I in Warrior Forum?
        My family has a company that sells a lot of products: toys, bikes, supplement food, watches, tv, games, eletronics, mobile phones, shoes, notebooks and others things. But how can you compete with the AMAZON of your country? (this is what I want to know).

        Our company has better prices than 90% (maybe more) than the competitors.

        But I think we need TWO MORE THINGS: PUBLICITY and CREDIBILITY.

        We have commercial in TV, radios, etc. But not like our competitors. They spend millions by month in publicity. We can not do that. We are not very big.

        So, what can I get here? (I think millionaires do the same)
        Ideas to get better results in internet. Sure the competitors spend a lot of money in AdWords, too, but there a lot of others ways to grow in INTERNET MARKETING.

        Maybe they can get the better places in cities to their stores, but maybe I can try to find a way to sell a good amount using INTERNET MARKETING.


        At least, this is what I think.
        If I am or not right, the time will say.



        Tks and have a good week!
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  • Profile picture of the author visimedia
    I'm millionaire (in several months ... hahaha) I'm working on it like you all guys
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    • Profile picture of the author Scott Kennedy
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      WSO's don't "work": people "work".

      What's a millionaire, anyway, these days? If you have $1,000,000 and invest it at 6%, it produces $5,000 per month interest. If you make steady products of $5,000 per month without needing to do much work for it, does that make you a "millionaire", or do you mean literally "having $1,000,000 in ready cash"?
      A millionaire is anyone who has a net worth of 1mil or more. That's the universal and straight forward definition. But if you must ask, yes, I am a multi millionaire.












































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  • Profile picture of the author opiniones
    I doubt there are any millionares here or even just 1 millionare. I doubt they would be spending time chatting in forums if they are millionares.
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    • Profile picture of the author webfighter
      Originally Posted by opiniones View Post

      I doubt there are any millionares here or even just 1 millionare.
      I'm sure (and know) there are. In fact, the beauty of a discussions forum like wf is, you can easily trackback someone's claims in their posts and the type of business they operate.

      Originally Posted by opiniones View Post

      I doubt they would be spending time chatting in forums if they are millionares.
      Do you really think they only play golf or visit the best club in their free time? Or they never require any help or assistance that they can't get elsewhere?

      The thing is, people can really get attached to communities online, I know for the fact that I've been there myself. Figure this - You won't stop talking to your family members when you make your first million now, would you?

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  • Profile picture of the author Colin Palfrey
    I know several millionaires, but they choose not to announce it to the world so it is only right I play along...and yes on the WF. Admittedly most don't post often, but I assure you they are here. As to the ones I don't know, I would assume there are many.

    Not everyone is playing silly bu**ers. There are many people earning a huge amount of money each day, though I have noticed the ones earning the most do the least, but they do it intelligently.
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    • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
      I am a millionaire.
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      • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
        I forgot to add that I am indeed a millionaire, but not when the United States Dollar is used as currency. :p
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  • Profile picture of the author rontoski
    A millionaire businessman said to me one day, "A million dollars is not a lot of money unless you don't have a million."

    Whatever level of sucess a marketer is enjoying may not be much unless you are not having any success, or very little.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jason Fladlien
      I know a few millionaires personally who post on the warrior forum from time to time. So they are here. True cash millionaires.

      The real difference is net and gross. I might break a million dollars this year in sales (it will be close) but I am FAR from a millionaire. I keep about 35% net after all expenses and taxes - so give me three years and if I don't spend too much more money I might be there
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Barboza
    This is a very good question. I have always wondered how much of that money is true and how much is false. However, I am sure that there must be more than one millionaire over here
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  • Profile picture of the author eflo
    I made a million elsewhere and lost it all during the crash in 2008.
    Now I'm here learning stuff to rebuild.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Domino
    Most people with money don't advertize.

    It's kind of like life in the ER.. some patients go in screaming in pain and you'd be convinced they're on the verge of death. But then there's that guy sitting on a chair with his eyes rolled back, half dead.

    It isn't always the case, but often the people that make the most noise are the people that pretend the most.

    Just imho.
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  • Profile picture of the author chewster
    Hmm...a millionaire...I've found some success with IM but no where near anything that would reach millionaire status with one product. The trick is to create multiple streams of small income that in time will add up to a large amount of money. The main problem is as human beings our nature is to look for the "easy fix" or the "home run".Patience and time are the keys to truly becoming a wealthy person. Even if you never make your million, developing patience will truly make you a wealthy person.

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  • Profile picture of the author Owen Smith
    Harder for me to become a millionaire in my currency as I am in British pound. Oh well I am $15,000 of the way there and growing rapidly.
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  • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
    There are a lot of good WSOs that would certainly do wonders if implimented correctly or even at all. Here's an article on this subject: Following Instructions Can be the Key to Internet Marketing Success | Internet Marketing Strategies for Losers by E Brian Rose
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  • Profile picture of the author Quentin
    I am starting on my second Million!

    The first one was too hard.

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  • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
    Becoming an online millionaire isn't something you are
    going to achieve overnight, unless you hit on a big
    idea such as Alex Tew's Million Dollar Homepage

    The mistake that most people make is their lack of a
    long term strategy. Most people approach their online
    efforts in a "piece meal" way. They jump from one new
    idea to the next... there's no long term plan.

    As Jason said above, there is a difference between
    achieving a sales turnover of $1m and having $1m in
    cash or assets.

    If you want to achieve a sales turnover of $1m then
    you need to build a business that can consistently
    make $2,739.72 every day for 365 days.

    When you break it down into a daily income target
    it begins to look a lot more achievable.

    As a recovering millionaire, I can tell you that it is
    a lot easier to lose a million than it is to make it. I
    may explain how I did that another day. ;-)

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author eaglechick
      Originally Posted by John Taylor View Post

      The mistake that most people make is their lack of a
      long term strategy. Most people approach their online
      efforts in a "piece meal" way. They jump from one new
      idea to the next... there's no long term plan.
      John
      John - I think this is the nr 1 reason there is probably only a few IM millionaires.

      Although I agree that some of the WSO's is not up to standard, it is up to you to sift through the info and apply it to your business. You made the decision to buy it and "swiped" the card. You can either take the useful aspects and apply it in your online biz or you can put the WSO in your trash file. On and Off line people sell inferior products all the time! Use your common sense and business savvy and don't buy a WSO about getting rich overnight - if you very well know it is a pipe dream.
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  • Profile picture of the author WPblogmatic
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    Damn, I just cannot resist putting my two cents into this thread.

    Great question DareMKD!!!

    Five years ago, I made just over $1M in 12 months online!!

    Around 50% of it came from selling a specific everyday household consumer product from one web site and the other approx 50% from selling a very successful SEO service (which is how I got my own traffic for my online product sales)!

    I then sold the businesses, made even more money and went and had a very long (errr, too long) holiday and enjoyed life.

    A year ago I got bored and decided to get back into online marketing and have been developing a very new money making tool (which again, I have been using to make money for the past 12 months) soon to be launched.

    Yes, its damn difficult to make money online today unless you have the right tools and knowledge. But you can.....most don't because they spend too much time getting lost in translation and chasing every money making scam and failing to focus on one online business model.
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  • Profile picture of the author Colin Klinkert
    Further to what was said above.

    There is a big difference between earning a million and having a million. For starters you have business expenses, then you have tax, then you have personal living expenses. Assuming you save at a 'high' rate of 20% of Gross profit (before tax) you would need to 'earn' $5mill after expenses, to have $1mill in savings.

    That being said, let's put this into perspective. In 2009 there were over 7.5million! Housholds that were deemed 'Millionaires' in the USA alone. Now this EXCLUDES value of primary residence. So if you own a house, this is not counting that equity.

    High net worth housholds of $5mill or more in assets sits at around 980,000!

    Conclusion: These days, a million is NOT what a million used to be when people were being 'WOWed' by the term 20 years ago! - Set HIGHER goals! Aim for 10 million!
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  • Profile picture of the author tehnolife
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    Some people's talk here and look on the word " millionaire" like it's not a simple man, it's a millionaire! Come on guys, if you are a millionaire you don't have the right to stay on a forum? If you are a millionaire you don't have the right to make a new product?

    Or what, if you are a millionaire you stay all the day playing golf and in the next day you stay on the yacht? Come on, are millionaires that stay on the forums, that launch new products... probably outsourcing!
    If you don't do this the life will be boring!
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  • Profile picture of the author kiopa
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    If I would have played my cards better in previous years, no question in my mind, I'd be a millionaire right now. Made some mistakes that cost me alot of cashflow, plus partied too much in my younger years.

    I could have made better business decisions, but on top of that, back when I was 20 years old and clearing $40K/month... if I would have invested that wisely & diversified myself, with question I'd be a millionaire right now. Instead, I pissed it all away on traveling, partying, casinos, etc.

    As for the WSOs, I don't even look at them, because I already know they're a waste of my time. Would rather spend that time concentrating on building a quality business, which has a good reputation.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        I believe that there are more than one or two millionaires who travel this forum. They just don't trumpet the fact like some fame whore trying to get on TMZ.

        A few years ago, my wife and I were on a cruise around Hawaii for our 25th anniversary. One day, I was chatting with a fellow passenger as we stood at the rail watching the waves go by. He mentioned that he and his wife were celebrating buying a condo in Hawaii. When I asked him which floor, he looked at me kind of funny and said, "why, all of them, of course..."

        As for the WSO headlines, you have to take most of those with a huge bucket of salt. As I see it, the ones that look over-the-top fall into three categories. You have the occasional, rare WSO that is based on the seller's real experience. You have the ones where the seller may have accomplished what they say (made $10K in 30 days) one time and 'exaggerate' that to making $10K per month, ongoing. And then there is the vast majority lately, the ones that are flat-out lies because some copywriting manual they bought for $7 says to make a large, specific claim and people will believe you.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Ooh, that's amazingly good! I'm 20 and nowhere near that
        Good lord Alexa, your only 20? I wont say how old I thought you were though :p

        now back on topic,

        for any of the poker players here, I am worth about 28 million Sklansky bucks! Would anybody like some?

        There is also my play money account which contains over 5 million in play money

        Chris
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        • Profile picture of the author TimG
          Originally Posted by skyfox7 View Post

          for any of the poker players here, I am worth about 28 million Sklansky bucks! Would anybody like some?

          Chris
          No thanks, I have an entire room in my house stacked with Sklansky Bucks from the floor to the ceiling

          Geez, I hate donkeys when they run hot!!!

          Respectfully,
          Tim
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        • Profile picture of the author Entreprenette
          I hate to sound cheesy, but I'm a billionnaire!

          I have a beautiful daughter who is absolutely priceless, a wonderful boyfriend who is worth more than his weight in gold (and he's quite a big chap!), I get to travel the world while trying to earn a living (the beauty of internet marketing) and I pretty much live a millionaire lifestyle - currently on a dustmans salary (no disrespect to dustmen!).

          But before you reach for the bucket, financially I've done OK, but mainly through property, so far as an IM 4 month old I'm still working very hard to get IM off the ground. The only way to do it, is the same way I did it in property, unwavering self belief, consistent and focused action and damn hard work!

          I am under no illusion that this is going to make me a mill overnight, but I love the WSO's. Yes some of them are worse than others but every single one I've downloaded so far has given me at least 1 little gem of advice and at $7, $17 or $27 for some of the incredible content, you can't really moan. And frankly some of these guys are selling an amazing amount of information and knowledge for a stupidly small price.

          But 2 points I would like to add;

          Would millionaires be on this site? Of course they would. Just cos you've made a mill, doesn't mean the fun's gone out of what you do. Most people work for a purpose not for the money. They kid themselves it's just about money, but it's about having something to get up for, something to feel proud of, something to belong to and having fun!!!

          Secondly, never give up! Even the impossible will work with effort and time. Stop believing the sales pages that tell you you're gonna get 300,000 targeted traffic in 10 minutes and recognise that it's going to take persistence and determination and absolute unwavering self belief to get where you want to be. But while you're there, if you think the WSO looks good, take a punt cos you may not get the 300,000 list but you will pick up a gem or two that you currently don't know and that will help you on your journey (and if it's a good one you've just helped a fellow IM'er on exactly the same journey as you)!

          Here's to all of our success fellow IM'ers!
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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Ooh, that's amazingly good! I'm 20 and nowhere near that .
        You're only 20! Good grief . . . if I had your intelligence when I was 20 I probably would be a millionaire now.
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      • Profile picture of the author kiopa
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        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Still, if you've done it once, you obviously have what it takes to do it again.
        Thanks, I hope so too! Globalization has done its thing though, so it's quite a different marketplace compared to 8 years ago. Nonetheless, I still have full confidence in my abilities & skill, so I'm sure everything will be fine.

        Originally Posted by TimG View Post

        I'm also ashamed to say I lived a party lifestyle which drained a good portion of what I was making. Still, it was an education in and of itself because I won't make the same mistakes twice.
        Do you actually regret it though? Thinking back, if you could go back in time, would you have actually done anything differently? Business-wise, I would have definitely made some different decisions, but personal-wise? I don't think so.

        If I would have done the "smart thing" all the time, then more than likely, I would have lived a pretty uneventful life. Instead, I was probably an idiot at times, but in return I've lived a life filled with experiences and adventure. I'm only 28, but have traveled to dozens of countries, lived in many countries spanning three continents, met loads of interesting people, experienced many cultures, been married, been divorced, etc.

        Sure, I had to take quite a few risks, and sometimes made some stupid mistakes, but I do actually regret it? Nah, can't say I do. For example, I'm currently living in a nice house on the outskirts of a city in NE Thailand. At times, I'll scratch my head, and wonder how in the hell I ended up here in life. Nonetheless, I couldn't be happier in life, and am ecstatic I ended up here, so definitely don't regret taking that risk.

        Granted, I'm not very wealthy at the moment, but that's fine with me. I can always build myself up again, and have full confidence in my abilities. You know, I used to live in the heart of downtown Vancouver, so it wasn't very difficult to meet millionaires (they're all over the place there). Honestly, none of them seemed particularly happy & fulfilled to me, or at least nothing special. If anything, they're worried, stressed, loads of responsibility on their shoulders, etc.

        I don't know, I'm just rambling now... too much coffee today! :-)
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        • Profile picture of the author Silas Hart
          At my rate of savings, I should make my millionth dollar in 2019, unless I come across some new method that will proliferate my actual income, or my method and business greatly decrease and thus decreasing my percentage of income that I save. At my current rate of buying and renting rental properties which is a separate business than what is suggested in my first sentence... my "net worth" (I hate that term) will be 1 million by the time I'm 30. (I'm 23 now) but it won't matter until the day comes when I can sell all of my property. Of course, the U.S. Housing market, and my local economy, could crash at any moment for all I really know. One day, I'll have enough money to purchase huge acerage of farm land that I hope to rent out to farmers during my early retirement at 50. Again, if the economy and farming market doesn't go as expected. I hope to due so by selling all of my rental homes and then reinvesting into farm land to lease out.

          Of course, if I get married/divorced, or have a couple kids... I won't be able to live the lifestyle I do now and will probably take twice as long to reach my financial goals.
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        • Profile picture of the author eflo
          Originally Posted by kiopa View Post

          Thanks, I hope so too! Globalization has done its thing though, so it's quite a different marketplace compared to 8 years ago. Nonetheless, I still have full confidence in my abilities & skill, so I'm sure everything will be fine.



          Do you actually regret it though? Thinking back, if you could go back in time, would you have actually done anything differently? Business-wise, I would have definitely made some different decisions, but personal-wise? I don't think so.

          If I would have done the "smart thing" all the time, then more than likely, I would have lived a pretty uneventful life. Instead, I was probably an idiot at times, but in return I've lived a life filled with experiences and adventure. I'm only 28, but have traveled to dozens of countries, lived in many countries spanning three continents, met loads of interesting people, experienced many cultures, been married, been divorced, etc.

          Sure, I had to take quite a few risks, and sometimes made some stupid mistakes, but I do actually regret it? Nah, can't say I do. For example, I'm currently living in a nice house on the outskirts of a city in NE Thailand. At times, I'll scratch my head, and wonder how in the hell I ended up here in life. Nonetheless, I couldn't be happier in life, and am ecstatic I ended up here, so definitely don't regret taking that risk.

          Granted, I'm not very wealthy at the moment, but that's fine with me. I can always build myself up again, and have full confidence in my abilities. You know, I used to live in the heart of downtown Vancouver, so it wasn't very difficult to meet millionaires (they're all over the place there). Honestly, none of them seemed particularly happy & fulfilled to me, or at least nothing special. If anything, they're worried, stressed, loads of responsibility on their shoulders, etc.

          I don't know, I'm just rambling now... too much coffee today! :-)
          I would love to hear how others made and lost their millions. The story of how is inspiring and the story of loss is enlightening in terms of how to keep it.

          I'll start with the quick version I suppose. I got behind tax shelters and foreign exchange back before fx became th big ridiculous mega niche it's become today. The funny thing? I did it all offline. And I had a technical background which meant my presentations were prettier (or at the very least flashier) than most, and as such it helped me to stand out in that world. I used to tour Canada (yes I am from Vancouver) to do speaking tours so sell this stuff.

          The problems came when I found out the stuff I was selling wasn't real... The "vendors" that I was promoting per se were all smoke and mirrors, and the house of cards fell down. I went from living the millionaire lifestyle to the poorhouse. The lesson here is to ensure that the owners of your product produce the real thing. Not fake reports. Better yet, I'm learning from here how easy it is to produce your own info products. I had never even considered that approach until coming here.

          Now that I'm armed with I've learned from this forum (and a few others) I'm choosier about which products I promote since the whole IM market is about finding mass distribution really. I'm thankful for what I've learned from here to date and am optimistic that I can build a foundation from here to make another run for the million.

          Lastly to be specific about the million, it was a passive million in income per annum that I truly considered of value. Just having a million doesn't mean much here in Vancouver as you can barely get a half decent property here for that amount these days.

          So, that's my story (in a nutshell) I hope to hear from the other "fallen or recovering millionaires" as well!

          Good luck in IM everyone. I'm certain there's something in this industry that can and will change your business life for the better.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimG
      Originally Posted by kiopa View Post

      If I would have played my cards better in previous years, no question in my mind, I'd be a millionaire right now. Made some mistakes that cost me alot of cashflow, plus partied too much in my younger years.

      I could have made better business decisions, but on top of that, back when I was 20 years old and clearing $40K/month... if I would have invested that wisely & diversified myself, with question I'd be a millionaire right now. Instead, I pissed it all away on traveling, partying, casinos, etc.

      As for the WSOs, I don't even look at them, because I already know they're a waste of my time. Would rather spend that time concentrating on building a quality business, which has a good reputation.
      Hate to admit it but I've also been there myself. I had a few great years where I made a ton of money but subsequently made some bad investment decisions which at the time were sound. Of course, as we all know, things sometimes go bad.

      I'm also ashamed to say I lived a party lifestyle which drained a good portion of what I was making. Still, it was an education in and of itself because I won't make the same mistakes twice.

      Making money is much easier then holding on to it especially if you experience success to fast, screw up your priorities and don't have a strong mentor to guide you.

      Respectfully,
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  • Profile picture of the author AylaPress
    Just need to make 3K a day, every day, and you'll get there.

    There is a say - "Sell to the Castles, Live with the Masses. Sell to the Masses, Live in a Castle."

    Find a consumer market in an Evergreen Niche, and build yourself a sustainable business. Manage your affairs properly and you can be a Multi Millionaire.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
    I think most people are totally missing the point and intention of this thread.

    The OP's question is a guise for:

    "How can I make money online? Everything I have tried doesn't work... and I'm starting to become skecptical of the products sold in the WSO section because they didn't make me rich. Should I give up?"

    That's the real question. This has nothing to do with who's a millionaire or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bruce Wedding
    My hotel bill on my last trip to Bogota was 2.2 million COP and I paid it with my American Express card so I'm a MULTI-imillionaire!
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  • Profile picture of the author wordman
    I can happily state that I am 100% milloionaire in training
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    • Profile picture of the author mywebwork
      Originally Posted by wordman View Post

      I can happily state that I am 100% milloionaire in training
      I'm sorry but I can't resist - I sure hope that "training" includes spelling!

      Even funnier coming from someone named "wordman"!

      Again forgive the sarcasm, been pulling yet another all-nighter working on my killer IM product that will hopefully make me a millionaire so I'm a bit punchy.

      I now return you to your regular program, will post again when I make that million!

      Bill
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom L
      I don't see much value in knowing who is a millionaire unless that is your target niche...
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  • Profile picture of the author Stevea326
    I think I'm in the same boat with lots of others, when we say we are slowly working there!
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    Working on it... :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author humbledmarket
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    Originally Posted by DareMKD View Post

    With Warrior special offers promising to make you $5000, $10k and even up to 50k (!!!!!!!!!) per month, it made me think...

    if you bought 10 of them and 20% worked...you could be making around 50k+ a month or in 2 years you would be a millionaire!!!!

    Now something is very fishy here and the conclusion I can make is that less than .5 percent of Warrior forums actually deliver at most 50% of what they make and 99% of warrior products can make you .5% of what they promise (not anything scientific, just my free estimations.) What do you think?
    You need to be very cautious with purchasing products. Some are indeed as quality as they say however many are good at over selling.

    Look for real edivdence not possibilities but solid proof and experieince. Additionally your questions comes down to a matter of experience and time. Some things a ebook just can't tell you or won't tell you.

    Also your time do you have time to implement all the methods you tried only for 20 % to succeed?

    Personally I'd prefer to stick to something that works and then slowly explore to other things instead of having 25% done of 4 projects with no results. That's my opinion anyways
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    • Profile picture of the author TCrosby
      There are absolutely millionaires on this forum. And I would be willing to bet there are at least a few dozen of them.

      Everyone is saying $2000 a day makes you a millionaire, but if you make $400 a day for 5 years, it comes out to the same thing. Don't you think there are people doing that (yes I know some of that will be spent over the years, but still, there are people here who have been running extremely successful online and offline based business for YEARS).

      However, most of them will not respond to this post, because it is not something they flaunt. Not that they don't want anyone to know, they just don't see the purpose in announcing the fact
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  • Profile picture of the author bullseyemarketing
    I would much rather know how they became millionaires specifically rather than who they are. I love success stories.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      I know Mike Filsaime , Steven Wagenheim, and Kelly Felix come into these Forums and I know they are all multi-millionaires !! As well as John Reese.
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  • Profile picture of the author Will Edwards
    When I started in this great adventure, around 5 years ago, I decided to write a book entitled: How to Make your First Million on the Web.

    I figured it would be easy enough. I put together a simple plan in that book and then I thought to myself: you know I will have to prove that this can be done, so I started ...

    ... 5 years later, I am still working on it

    BUT, I am getting closer.

    I genuinely think it will take me around 1 more year.

    Will

    EDIT: And I guess I should also say: the plan has changed a lot along the way
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  • Profile picture of the author Mega B
    I think you will find that some people on this forum and many of the other top forums are weallthy people and worth 7 figures and good luck to them,the thing is you can never tell who reads these forum so they tend to keep how much they earn to themselves and accountants.
    I think how much a person earns is private and should be kept that way,thats my take on it.
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  • Profile picture of the author H3x
    I made it half way there last year but im working on some large social networking type websites at the moment so fingers crossed ill get there

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  • Profile picture of the author DogScout
    I suspect, becoming a millionaire is not an internet marketers first priority. In my limited experience, it is much easier to become a millionaire in the 3D world. In IM, I believe most millionaires worked very hard for it. In the 3D world, a lot did/do not.
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  • Profile picture of the author hotftuna
    I had a million dollars but I spent it all.

    Half-kidding. What I can say after 10 years of IM is when you are doing well, save all you can. Just because you have one six-figure year does not mean that you will not have some lean years to come.
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    • Profile picture of the author blkfin
      If you want to have One Million Dollars in IM after a year, start with 5 Million.
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  • Profile picture of the author sloanjim
    What's the big deal? $1m at 5% interst - $50,000 p.a.

    Int bizz hands off $100,000+ per annum MUCH better.

    $1m isn't such a lot of monry any more.
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  • Profile picture of the author bronnamdi
    I bought a WSO a while back that was made up of a software I could have got for free on the net along with some other software that did not deliver on promises. I believe this is the exception and not the rule. However, that taught me to be very careful when responding to the WSOs.

    There may be millionaires here but they will hardly blow their trumpets and own up to being such.

    I know that there are millions to be made on the internet by those who work smart and lead change. Such make their millions before the copycats spoil the fun.

    You can be one of them in due course if you are able to give people what they need to solve a simple problem. You can look towards communication for clue.
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  • Profile picture of the author rmolina88
    It would be my dream!

    Right now I'm a poor hundred-naire.
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  • Profile picture of the author candoit2
    Why would members who are millionaires feel the need to prove themselves by posting in a thread like this?


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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    I still have to get that first 100k

    But I know I'll get there, considering how my income is constantly increasing.
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  • Profile picture of the author furca
    Want to be a millionaire? Make websites that earn cash, and duplicate all you can. The best thing to learn from eBooks? The tools used in them. Strip out the tools and methods and formulate to your own plan. This has helped me imensely.

    I am not a millionaire yet, but I do continue to increase my daily earnings from year to year.
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  • Profile picture of the author reapr
    I was going to purchase a wso that promised xxxx dollars a day and realized it would take xxx days to make my first million so I just walked away. It just seemed too darn easy.

    So now I am currently devising another method to come up with a million. They say the first is the hardest so staying to tradition I am trying to make it as hard as possible to obtain before going on to my second.
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  • Profile picture of the author sparckyz
    Im sure there's a few, but i doubt they'll reply to this thread lol..

    A lot of talk about the WSOs, i guess just buy the ones that interest you from credible people with lots of credible reviews. Also, pick'n'choo the ones from the WR
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  • Profile picture of the author Ori_G
    Here's my thoughts - I'm under no illusion that any WSO will make me a millionnaire in and of itself, BUT I would be very happy if I could wrap my head around a few concepts well enough to make it so that I had a way to generate a livable salary (say 3k - 8k / month)... Not a crazy amount of money, but enough to cover my expenses.

    My hope would be that I could outsource more and more of this work astime passed so as to make it more passive, THEN with my extra time, I could work on investing some of that money / making up more streams of income.

    My logic is that if you keep building streams of income then work on making them more passive and re-fill up your time with bigger and better efforts, you can make it to maybe being a millionnaire, but surely to truly comfortable financial independence...

    ... NOT TO MENTION that once you have some income that is passive, that you can then spend more time finding better and better investments - maybe not all online and with a lot of work and time, I do believe you can make it to a very comfortable life.

    I hope this makes sense... It does to me and I figure get rich or die tryin'
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  • Profile picture of the author kidder
    I come here looking for bits of gold and because I have the time. Just because you crack one, two or five million does not mean its time to stop looking and learning.
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