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I don`t know why, but today one idea hit me and I can not get rid of it


There are a lot of newbies(just like me) that want to create their first product, website, blog and all other things. But I know how it feels when you are actually broke and you just do not have enough money to outsource something or you do not have enough skills to do that all yourself. This is just how I feel. Sometimes you have a great idea, but you leave it as you can not do it all yourself and you can not pay someone to do it. BUT everyone has got some kind of skills. What if there was a place where newbies(and maybe not only newbies) met and could exchange for their work and skills? If someone has great writing skills, he can exchange articles with someone who will help him with the banner creation for example. You got the idea I think.
Everyone would create their profiles and tell about their skills and start their projects, bid on other projects etc.
Maybe there are places like that, but I have not found one yet. ???

It would be free of course.

Any feedback?

If this idea sucks, just say it! I want honest opinions!

Thanks,
Laura
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  • Profile picture of the author DavidO
    It's a good idea but it may be very difficult to pull off. The reason is that most newbies (just like you... and just like I was) probably don't have any applicable IM skills to barter with.

    Because I was a newbie with no money for outsourcing I had to learn it all by myself. Now I would say it was worth the trouble but it sure was frustrating at the time so I know how you feel.
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  • Profile picture of the author lauraajel7
    Yes, that is true. Newbies do not have many IM skills, but at least you could exchange some parts of your projects. Maybe you could not exchange SEO skills, but you could get articles written, create a website, install a blog.
    For example I have learned a lot about keyword research, but I really do not like writing content.
    Looking to some more suggestions! Thank you!
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  • Profile picture of the author richinca
    I like the idea.

    It's sort of an elance for newbies where services trade instead of $.

    Even pros have time consuming jobs they'd like to outsource for advice.
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    • Profile picture of the author lauraajel7
      Originally Posted by richinca View Post

      It's sort of an elance for newbies where services trade instead of $.
      You told all the idea in one simple sentence, thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author ianstables
    It's a good idea. But you'd have to have it restricted to membership only. Otherwise we could end up giving away secrets that we may want to sell in the future.

    Nice idea.

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    • Profile picture of the author lauraajel7
      Originally Posted by ianstables View Post

      It's a good idea. But you'd have to have it restricted to membership only. Otherwise we could end up giving away secrets that we may want to sell in the future.
      Could you please explain what exactly do you mean by giving away secrets that we may want to sell in the future? :confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author jettdream
        I think it's an awesome idea! This is my first time on this forum, the first post I've read and the first reply I've made. Not unlike you, I'm a newbie. I'm in dire need of making some extra cash but not much money, if any, to put up to make it.

        I've just started surfing around, attempting not to get overwhelmed, and looking to conclude an educated decision on a direction to take. I've dabbled for a while and one roadblock I've encountered is wading through the many things that are over my head to get to a simple answer on how to do something "entry level". I can see your concept as the perfect place to find those answers.

        Where do I sign up?
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        • Profile picture of the author lauraajel7
          Originally Posted by jettdream View Post


          Where do I sign up?
          I will tell you where to sign up when I create the site

          Thank you all for your feedback so much! I totally agree that you need go through a lot of steps yourself in order to be successful but you don`t have to learn all the stuff, do yo? For example, I would never learn programming or stuff like that, but there are people who love it. If you are newbie to IM, you still have some skills that you got before you decided to start making money online.
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  • Profile picture of the author mbealmear
    I'd say it is a good idea. However I agree with Ian that it would need to be a membership site.
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    • Profile picture of the author lauraajel7
      Originally Posted by mbealmear View Post

      I'd say it is a good idea. However I agree with Ian that it would need to be a membership site.
      Yes, I start to feel that I want to get this idea out and really create this site!
      Membership site sounds like a good option! Any ideas what would be the best way how to create one where it would be possible to create profiles, project posting, ratings etc?
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  • Profile picture of the author Eric Engel
    You'd have to make 1 big restriction:

    You MUST bring something to the table.

    When I was very early in the game, I bartered with quite a few people. But I always turned down the person who said they had a good idea and nothing more.

    Besides, I still think there's value in a noob getting his feet wet and LEARNING to do a lot for himself. I know people will disagree with me, but I wouldn't trade my beginning years for anything, simply because of the things I learned.
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  • Profile picture of the author write-stuff
    I spent quite a bit of effort prototyping just such a membership site. It would allow members to fill out skills inventories, listing skills/assets they had, and skills/assets they were seeking. Then member could search for other members with very specific search criteria.

    I pimped it pretty hard, but there seemed to be virtually no interest. Couple of people suggested using craigslist or something like that, but jeeze, what a low tech and inefficient alternative that would be.

    - Russ
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    • Profile picture of the author lauraajel7
      Originally Posted by write-stuff View Post

      I pimped it pretty hard, but there seemed to be virtually no interest.

      - Russ
      No interest? So my question to forum members that are newbies- would you use a service like that if there was one? What do you think is important for a site like that?
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      • Profile picture of the author ShayB
        I would certainly use it. I can write and blog, but other stuff is difficult for me.
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        • Profile picture of the author lauraajel7
          Originally Posted by Shay60654 View Post

          I would certainly use it. I can write and blog, but other stuff is difficult for me.
          Cool, because I don`t like writing!
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          • Profile picture of the author lauraajel7
            Anyone could please suggest the best way how to create a site/membership site for this idea? :rolleyes:
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            • Profile picture of the author ShayB
              Originally Posted by lauraajel7 View Post

              Anyone could please suggest the best way how to create a site/membership site for this idea? :rolleyes:
              I am sending a PM.
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            • Profile picture of the author write-stuff
              Originally Posted by lauraajel7 View Post

              Anyone could please suggest the best way how to create a site/membership site for this idea? :rolleyes:
              Hehe, like I mentioned before, I practically begged people but the vast majority saw no value in it. Got shot down repeatedly on the idea. Now if you want to hook me up with a good client/server programmer, we'll have it online in less than three weeks. Like I said, I have it already prototyped.
              (Unfortunately, I just offloaded the site yesterday and remapped the server to a different site.)

              Or, if you want to invest about $15K, I'll hire a guy and we'll get it online in less than a month.

              The key to the success of something like this is getting a HUGE membership. I'm talking a database in the tens of thousands minimum.

              - Russ
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            • Profile picture of the author mymarketingsecret
              Originally Posted by lauraajel7 View Post

              Anyone could please suggest the best way how to create a site/membership site for this idea? :rolleyes:
              you can use Wordpress to create a membership site using fantastico
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        • Profile picture of the author h1dayah
          Originally Posted by Shay60654 View Post

          I would certainly use it. I can write and blog, but other stuff is difficult for me.
          Hello i can do Internet Marketing and and promotion If you have skill to write.This is such a good idea...
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          • Profile picture of the author lauraajel7
            Originally Posted by h1dayah View Post

            Hello i can do Internet Marketing and and promotion If you have skill to write.This is such a good idea...
            Hey, I don`t have skills to write myself, but if you join NewbieExcange, then we have already some members that have good writing skills and need exactly some promotion skills- so hope that you join us
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  • Profile picture of the author Habitat
    I like your idea but it might be hard to pull off. But it won't be impossible. It'll be like a help/work together thing but when moneys involved things can become nasty. I hope all works out for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author darrenw
    Hi there,

    I have just sent you a PM
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  • Profile picture of the author Lynn Stivers
    Hi Laura,

    I'm not a newbie but I'd love to see a site like that. Even those of us who have been online for awhile don't do everything well and exchanging services or products would really help a tight budget!

    If you're going to create a site like that be sure to let me know when you've got it ready.


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  • Profile picture of the author TimothyW
    go to ning.com and set up a password protected forum, free.

    then (please) pm me the link (I might wanna join in too)
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    • Profile picture of the author lauraajel7
      Originally Posted by -- TW View Post

      go to ning.com and set up a password protected forum, free.

      then (please) pm me the link (I might wanna join in too)
      That is just what came into my mind today! I already created a test account there.

      I think that even people with a lot of experience could help to newbies with some skills. That way they could market their own IM products to the membership site. :confused: When newbies would start earning some money with their projects, they would then be able to afford those products. :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author lauraajel7
    What would be your suggestions for the name?
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    What do you think about: Newbies of value
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    • Profile picture of the author ShayB
      Originally Posted by lauraajel7 View Post

      What do you think about: Newbies of value
      How about "Networking Newbies"?:rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author lauraajel7
        Originally Posted by Shay60654 View Post

        How about "Networking Newbies"?
        Sounds good Have you got any more ideas?
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        • Profile picture of the author Anbelle
          Originally Posted by lauraajel7 View Post

          Sounds good Have you got any more ideas?
          I think this is an excellent idea ! Don't get down by somebody saying "I tried that, I got no interest, it won't work etc..." B.S. You seem to be very enthusiastic about this, just do it ! Enthusiasm is the base of anything we try to do here, isn't it.Anybody disagree ? If you try to do something JUST for the money, it will not work. If we love it, it will work !

          What do you think about "The Best Exchange" ?

          And I do agree with the person who said it doesn't have to be newbies only. I am one though, but there are people who have tried a long time and got nowhere, but who have skills that others don't. Together, we can help eachother to get there !
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          • Profile picture of the author lauraajel7
            Originally Posted by Anbelle View Post

            I think this is an excellent idea ! Don't get down by somebody saying "I tried that, I got no interest, it won't work etc..." B.S. You seem to be very enthusiastic about this, just do it ! Enthusiasm is the base of anything we try to do here, isn't it.Anybody disagree ? If you try to do something JUST for the money, it will not work. If we love it, it will work !

            What do you think about "The Best Exchange" ?

            And I do agree with the person who said it doesn't have to be newbies only. I am one though, but there are people who have tried a long time and got nowhere, but who have skills that others don't. Together, we can help eachother to get there !
            Thank you Anbelle!
            I am definitely not trying this "just for the money" concept as I would love to have a community of internet marketing newbies, who are eager to help each other, learn and grow. I know how it feels when you are stuck, don`t have money and all this internet marketing thing seems hopeless. It is something that I want to use myself and see others using it!
            If you would read the discussion more careful, then you would see that it is already created! Hope to see you there (Just click on my signature link)
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  • Profile picture of the author Desray
    I think it is a great idea and a membership site would be a good option. With a membership site you don't have to keep getting new customers. They sign up and you get paid every month.
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  • Profile picture of the author write-stuff
    Neither a forum nor a stock membership site is going to give you what you want. Members have to be able to search for other members based on criteria.

    It's great to have these standard social sites. People bump around and get to know each other a bit through comments. But if you're a graphic designer looking for some sites to work on, or you're a site developer looking for a content person, forums and out-of-the-box membership sites give you nothing more than the ability to make random shotgun blasts.

    You have to have member search to get what you're asking for.

    - Russ
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  • Profile picture of the author MaryK
    I love to write but no matter how hard I try, I find the technical stuff really hard and very frustrating, even though about five years ago I did web design and html, it has changed so much that I now find I need to relearn just about everything, except graphics! I agree, doing it the hard way is good but when a person is starting out they can be over-whelmed with all they need to do and learn. So a barter exchange would be very welcome. A person can always read up and learn the areas they are not so good at when they are more relaxed and have more time.

    I do think it would have to be a membership site. Where I live they have an off-line Barter Exchange Club. A person joins, lists their skills etc. There is a points system, whereby a person can build up points to exchange for other's services.

    Hope this all makes sense, it's late at night here and I have just spent more time than I care to think about submitting Articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author lauraajel7
    I think I shall create it on Ning where you can create social networks. I was thinking about point system as well, but it seems too complicated at the moment. I should create point system if the site gets some popularity.
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  • Profile picture of the author fingers4hire
    I had that same idea. IM BABIES. Since I do transcription for many of the internet "Gurus," I was thinking of asking them to do small tutorials on certain subjects, i.e. "How to pick a niche," or "Step-by-step instructions on keyword research." I'm not thinking free, but something like 5 bucks a month, just so I could offer "the experts," something for their time since begging, gets old real fast. I agree that are a lot of people who just don't know where to start, but they have the desire and determination needed to be successful. Most of the guides or "tutorials" are either too expensive or they don't give it to you in terms you can understand because you simply don't have the knowledge. I have not made a substantial amount of money with IM, maybe $1,200 or so through affiliate programs, I know that it can be done. Does anyone have any thoughts on perhaps an informal membership site, with informal discussions or even perhaps guest speakers, etc. I'm also think a barter and trade section where newbies can trade their skills. So many people have hidden talents that they aren't aware of.
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    • Profile picture of the author lauraajel7
      Originally Posted by fingers4hire View Post

      I had that same idea. IM BABIES. Since I do transcription for many of the internet "Gurus," I was thinking of asking them to do small tutorials on certain subjects, i.e. "How to pick a niche," or "Step-by-step instructions on keyword research." I'm not thinking free, but something like 5 bucks a month, just so I could offer "the experts," something for their time since begging, gets old real fast. I agree that are a lot of people who just don't know where to start, but they have the desire and determination needed to be successful. Most of the guides or "tutorials" are either too expensive or they don't give it to you in terms you can understand because you simply don't have the knowledge. I have not made a substantial amount of money with IM, maybe $1,200 or so through affiliate programs, I know that it can be done. Does anyone have any thoughts on perhaps an informal membership site, with informal discussions or even perhaps guest speakers, etc. I'm also think a barter and trade section where newbies can trade their skills. So many people have hidden talents that they aren't aware of.
      A good idea, but as I know there are a lot of free information about basic stuff of IM. :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author lauraajel7
    I would appreciate some more ideas about the site name!
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  • Profile picture of the author MaryK
    Newbie Exchange? I agree, whilst there is a lot of stuff written, some of it virtually assumes you know what certain things are. A more personal approach, someone with patience, to teach Newbies in simple plain English would be great.
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    • Profile picture of the author lauraajel7
      I did it! I created it It is more a demo version at the moment to see how many members could this site get. I hope this will be valuable to some :rolleyes:

      Mary, I actually used your suggested name, as the domain was also available! Thanks!

      If anyone would like to see it, give some critique and join, please see my signature as I don`t want any advertising here.

      Thank you all who inspired me
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      • Profile picture of the author brianAwilliams
        Very good idea. I've used other barter networks in the past with tremendous success. I've literally had 30 second TV commercials produced through online barter networks such as Corporate Barter Network.
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  • Profile picture of the author getmorebuyers
    The idea is that newbies don't have much money to start with so if you are going to do a membership site, you have to make the cost very minimal.
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  • Profile picture of the author Len47811
    One issue I see is one thing taking a certain amount of time and another job taking much less.I once did this very thing with a drummer.Id trade my guitar playing to make his songs and he would trade his drumming.The problem was he expected me to be ready to work on his material whenever he chose,based on the fact i could expect him to perform drumming for me in the studio.

    I had to put a stop to it finally because I was working for practically nothing,
    getting his drumming studio time for maybe 3-4 hours and working on his songs 10 hours a week.See what i mean?
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  • Profile picture of the author MaryK
    Great Laura, so pleased you started the Forum. I feel that everyone working to help each other, the time factor would "trade off". What goes around comes around and help and advice given freely, always comes back with interest. Maybe not always from the person whom you helped in the first place but someone else will step up and help you when you need it. I's about time there was a spirit of sharing and giving, without any 'hook' we all need help at times.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christie Love
    It sounds like a good idea. I would be leary of something like that because a lot of newbies don't stick with the program. We see a lot of new people come and go on this forum. However, if you aren't exchanging money, I guess it wouldn't impose too much of a negative affect. Let me know how it goes.
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    • Profile picture of the author lauraajel7
      Originally Posted by Christie Love View Post

      It sounds like a good idea. I would be leary of something like that because a lot of newbies don't stick with the program. We see a lot of new people come and go on this forum. However, if you aren't exchanging money, I guess it wouldn't impose too much of a negative affect. Let me know how it goes.
      Thanks
      At the moment we have 8 members and already the first project has started. I hope that more and more members will join, need to think about some good ways how to attract more members :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave Everett
    Hey Laura,

    Take into account any not-so-enthusiastic responses to your idea, but don't be put off by them. Top kudos to you for actually going out there and doing something about it by putting up the site.

    One of the oldest maxims concerning business is 'find a need and fill it', and many fortunes have been made that way.

    Here's power to your elbow!

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    Sounds great,you must go with the idea!
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  • Profile picture of the author ymon
    this looks like very interesting idea..
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    • Profile picture of the author lauraajel7
      Originally Posted by articlerelated View Post

      NoobExchange.com is available
      What is NoobExchange.com? Did you think NewbieExchange.com :rolleyes: If so, then yes, it IS available
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    its a great idea i would say...
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