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14 years ago

Looks fyne two mee.

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dbarnum

14 years ago

Unbelievable, wow

The first couple sentences shout out Ughhhh:

"Nowadays one needs to compete actually difficult to obtain ahead in your everyday living and also this point concerns every aspect of ones life such as physical conditioning. In purchase being nicely accepted in society, it really is significant that a single excels in each and every aspect which includes physical health and fitness."

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TimG

14 years ago

Well, got to admit it - Those articles stink. I say those because I looked at some of the other articles submitted by the same author in order to see if there was a formatting error or some other reason why this article was ganked up but to my dismay, all of his articles are like this.

Found a particularly interesting one covering Insomina where the opening line was the following:

If the first step is to identify the causes of sleep disorders, to treat insomnia at its source, the second is to find good recipes for living better sleep.

Here was the third line from the same article:

- Do not make sport the past 17h.

What the heck - First I've never heard of living better sleep and if anyone can tell me what "Do not make the sport past 17h" means I have will achieved one of the items on my bucket list. :rolleyes:

The sad thing is looking at the author's page views would suggest that lots of folks have found and read his, do I dare say, articles or fake page views are being obtained.

No matter, for the sake of your reputation as an author, online marketer and the ROI from your article marketing campaigns don't submit articles like this anywhere.

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Tim

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x3xsolxdierx3x

14 years ago

Originally Posted by TimG

Well, got to admit it - Those articles stink. I say those because I looked at some of the other articles submitted by the same author in order to see if there was a formatting error or some other reason why this article was ganked up but to my dismay, all of his articles are like this.

Found a particularly interesting one covering Insomina where the opening line was the following:

If the first step is to identify the causes of sleep disorders, to treat insomnia at its source, the second is to find good recipes for living better sleep.

Here was the third line from the same article:

- Do not make sport the past 17h.

What the heck - First I've never heard of living better sleep and if anyone can tell me what "Do not make the sport past 17h" means I have will achieved one of the items on my bucket list. :rolleyes:

The sad thing is looking at the author's page views would suggest that lots of folks have found and read his, do I dare say, articles or fake page views are being obtained.

No matter, for the sake of your reputation as an author, online marketer and the ROI from your article marketing campaigns don't submit articles like this anywhere.

Respectfully,
Tim

This is the type of article(s) that, if not nipped in the butt ASAP, will begin to seriously tarnish EZA's reputation. I didn't look to see how many views the article received, but, can you imagine what all those people, who viewed his article(s) must be thinking? This is of great concern if this is very rampant on EZA....

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stevecl

14 years ago

A snippet from the editorial guidelines

"MUST HAVE proper English, spelling, grammar, punctuation, capitalization and sentence structure. While we know there is a variation in what is considered "proper English," we ask that you at least be consistent within your article. Your article must also be proofed and double checked for accuracy. If English is your second language, we strongly suggest that you have it proofed by someone who has English as their native tongue before submitting your articles to us."

Hmmm!!!!

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x3xsolxdierx3x

14 years ago

Originally Posted by stevecl

A snippet from the editorial guidelines

"MUST HAVE proper English, spelling, grammar, punctuation, capitalization and sentence structure. While we know there is a variation in what is considered "proper English," we ask that you at least be consistent within your article. Your article must also be proofed and double checked for accuracy. If English is your second language, we strongly suggest that you have it proofed by someone who has English as their native tongue before submitting your articles to us."

Hmmm!!!!

Looks like quality control isn't a priority over there at EZA.

For those who use EZA, just how rampant is this, or is this an isolated incident that slipped through the cracks?

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higginb3

14 years ago

that is utterly amazing... I've had some of my articles declined for ridiculous reasons and they let this trash through... very funny.

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mcmahanusa 14 years ago

I don't know........looks pretty normal for today's high school graduate to me.

Perhaps the article is aimed toward those sterling examples of our current educational system. You know, the one which no longer requires the ability to read and write. Sort of a Congressional bootcamp.:rolleyes:
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Sandra Martinez

14 years ago

Eza's articles are not good. They are accepted when they are "good enough"... these are not even good enough, but it is pretty easy to get the articles approved.

btw, good articles have awful click-through rate. They need a special decoy structure with no real content to get the reader to click out.

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wordwizard

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Sandra Martinez

Eza's articles are not good. They are accepted when they are "good enough"... these are not even good enough, but it is pretty easy to get the articles approved.

btw, good articles have awful click-through rate. They need a special decoy structure with no real content to get the reader to click out.

Sandra

Call me overly optimistic, but I think someone was asleep on the job here (and in the other case I mentioned...)

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TristanPerry

14 years ago

Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x

For those who use EZA, just how rampant is this, or is this an isolated incident that slipped through the cracks?

It's not very common. They're probably the most strict of the big article directories, which makes this all the more weird.

I've seen this kind of article in loads of other article directories, but never EZA before.

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Crew Chief

14 years ago

Originally Posted by stevecl

Just been browsing ezine articles and just came across the following article. Looks like the editor was having a bad day on this one!!!!

How to Obtain Six Pack Abs - The Ultimate and Simple Methods to Have 6 Pack Abs

Any idea's how this got through?

He has a PLATINUM account... hehehe...

Originally Posted by Sandra Martinez

Eza's articles are not good. They are accepted when they are "good enough"... these are not even good enough, but it is pretty easy to get the articles approved.

btw, good articles have awful click-through rate. They need a special decoy structure with no real content to get the reader to click out.

Sandra

Yep, Sandra is right! It's called Social Engineering. You engineer the article to subconsciously illicit the reader to want to click the advertisement or links.

Top IMers have this tactic mastered!

Originally Posted by TristanPerry

It's not very common. They're probably the most strict of the big article directories, which makes this all the more weird.

I've seen this kind of article in loads of other article directories, but never EZA before.

These types of articles are all over EZA.

Do you really think they are actually reading "ALL" of the submissions, line-by-line?

Certain IMers have put EZA on some sort of idealistic pedestal, while other IMers know the real deal and use it to their advantage.

Giles, the Crew Chief

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x3xsolxdierx3x

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Crew Chief

He has a PLATINUM account... hehehe...

Yep, Sandra is right! It's called Social Engineering. You engineer the article to subconsciously illicit the reader to want to click the advertisement or links.

Top IMers have this tactic mastered!

These types of articles are all over EZA.

Do you really think they are actually reading "ALL" of the submissions, line-by-line?

Certain IMers have put EZA on some sort of idealistic pedestal, while other IMers know the real deal and use it to their advantage.

Giles, the Crew Chief

...Maybe 'line-by-line' isn't necessary, however, one doesn't have to go 'line-by-line' to see the flaws in this one....

They "should" be reading all the submissions, but, that's JMHO...

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Kay King

14 years ago

truthaboutabs DOT com/AbouttheAuthor.html

The dude's got abs! -- EZA info on that page is interesting. spinner or outsourced cheaply - just for link juice at EZA .

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stevecl

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

truthaboutabs DOT com/AbouttheAuthor.html

The dude's got abs! -- EZA info on that page is interesting. spinner or outsourced cheaply - just for link juice at EZA .

Kay, what you on about?

Anyone esle notice the dude's picture at the bottom of the article - isn't it matey from lord of the rings? one of the hobbits?

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stevecl

14 years ago

Originally Posted by stevecl

Kay, what you on about?

Anyone esle notice the dude's picture at the bottom of the article - isn't it matey from lord of the rings? one of the hobbits?

Google

Perhaps its written in Hobbitsy :-)

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Wakunahum

14 years ago

The editor had just put in his or her two week notice.

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JohnMcCabe

14 years ago

Apparently the message got through on this one. The OP went up ~4:00 pm by my screen. Less that 90 minutes later, that article is no longer available...

Edit: Just because an article may read well, that doesn't automatically make it "quality content." It could be, and often is, just well-written crap full of factual errors.

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Crew Chief

14 years ago

Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x

...Maybe 'line-by-line' isn't necessary, however, one doesn't have to go 'line-by-line' to see the flaws in this one....

They "should" be reading all the submissions, but, that's JMHO...

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Okay, that article was submitted on May 24, 2010...long after the so called
crack down on "bad" articles.

There is NO excuse for that getting through unless the editor was stoned
on ludes at the time.

NO excuse.

:confused::confused::confused: WTF???

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

Apparently the message got through on this one. The OP went up ~4:00 pm by my screen. Less that 90 minutes later, that article is no longer available...

Edit: Just because an article may read well, that doesn't automatically make it "quality content." It could be, and often is, just well-written crap full of factual errors.

Power to the people!

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alsmith1 14 years ago

Yep, its gone now, but the other articles this person has written and very poorly spun to the point that they don't even make sense are still there.
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TimG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

Apparently the message got through on this one. The OP went up ~4:00 pm by my screen. Less that 90 minutes later, that article is no longer available...

Edit: Just because an article may read well, that doesn't automatically make it "quality content." It could be, and often is, just well-written crap full of factual errors.

Bummer, those types of articles make great examples for live case studies when teaching folks what not to do.

On a side note, one thing we are not privileged to know is the amount of articles submitted to EZA on a daily basis. I'm sure it is astronomical and if they do employ some automated measures to provide assistance for the screening process then there is a window open for the occasional error.

The submission process for that directory has improved dramatically in order to keep in stride with the number of new authors that continue to join and submit articles.

If it was 100% human reviewed then the backlog of getting an article approved for publication would be extremely long.

Respectfully,
Tim

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by TimG

Bummer, those types of articles make great examples for live case studies when teaching folks what not to do.

On a side note, one thing we are not privileged to know is the amount of articles submitted to EZA on a daily basis. I'm sure it is astronomical and if they do employ some automated measures to provide assistance for the screening process then there is a window open for the occasional error.

The submission process for that directory has improved dramatically in order to keep in stride with the number of new authors that continue to join and submit articles.

If it was 100% human reviewed then the backlog of getting an article approved for publication would be extremely long.

Respectfully,
Tim

For sure. 100% human review would be a near impossibility without a significant investment in extra staff. I DO thing that, at least new writers, should/could be subjected to an initial 10/20/30/50 manual article approval quality control process.

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TimG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x

For sure. 100% human review would be a near impossibility without a significant investment in extra staff. I DO thing that, at least new writers, should/could be subjected to an initial 10/20/30/50 manual article approval quality control process.

Agree with you 100%. Here is an excerpt from an interview I found online conducted with the EzineArticles.com Communications and Marketing Manager (Mark). The interview was performed on 6 April 2010 by the blog owner (Lisa Mason).

Here is what Mark had to say regarding the editorial process:

Question by Lisa: When I submit an article, it goes through an editorial process. Can you explain each step of this process? What steps does EzineArticles take to ensure quality content on their site?

Answer by Marc: In addition to the automated checks that happen when an article is submitted, each article goes through a 10-step review process at the hands of one of our editors. Then the decision and recommendations of the editor are double-checked by our QC team before an article is allowed to go live.

If the quality isn’t sufficient, the article is sent back to the member for revisions. We also have other quality inducement programs in place like our tiered memberships, on-going education and member rewards (promotional items).

END ANSWER

So there is a partial automated check taking place along with a human QC.

The interview is actually pretty good and if you feel like reading it in order to see what other questons were asked here is a link to her blog: Using EzineArticles- Behind the Scenes Look Inside this Matching Service Writing Tips Blog

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by TimG

Agree with you 100%. Here is an excerpt from an interview I found online conducted with the EzineArticles.com Communications and Marketing Manager (Mark). The interview was performed on 6 April 2010 by the blog owner (Lisa Mason).

Here is what Mark had to say regarding the editorial process:

Question by Lisa: When I submit an article, it goes through an editorial process. Can you explain each step of this process? What steps does EzineArticles take to ensure quality content on their site?

Answer by Marc: In addition to the automated checks that happen when an article is submitted, each article goes through a 10-step review process at the hands of one of our editors. Then the decision and recommendations of the editor are double-checked by our QC team before an article is allowed to go live.

If the quality isn't sufficient, the article is sent back to the member for revisions. We also have other quality inducement programs in place like our tiered memberships, on-going education and member rewards (promotional items).

END ANSWER

So there is a partial automated check taking place along with a human QC.

The interview is actually pretty good and if you feel like reading it in order to see what other questons were asked here is a link to her blog: Using EzineArticles- Behind the Scenes Look Inside this Matching Service Writing Tips Blog

Respectfully,
Tim

About the automatic checks he referred to in the interview... I THINK (but am not sure) that these are the sort of checks about length, keyword density, and so on, that are now mercifully taking place mostly as the article is submitted. And if there are too many keywords, for example, or something crucial is missing, then it gets bounced back so we can fix it. I find that kind of helpful actually.

Then again, considering Caliban's post... there might be more going on.

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Kay King 14 years ago

Kay, what you on about?

LOL - it was the link I posted (but didn't want it to give him a link so the "DOT" It mentioned how many EZA articles, platinum membership, etc and a hunky photo, too.

I know it would be sweeeeet to think EZA reads all this crap we submit - but can you imagine a job where for eight hours a day you read stuff like this? I wouldn't last for a day!

I know EZA has an auto checker for keyword density - becuase it sometimes messes up. I know somehow the sites are checked to see if they are "proper" or "live" ( cause I did my damndest to get some "not quite blue" articles through and the site was too racy). And new submitters might be scrutinized a bit.

I agree with Sandra that a structure can improve clickthrough rates - but very good articles can also get great click through rates. They are also more likely to be reprinted and add more backlinks.

8 articles written for a client two weeks ago and submitted to EZA have had 1700 views and clickthrough rates of between 7 and 23.5% so far. I don't know if that's considered good or bad by others - but I'm happy with it. Maybe if I wrote upside down after 5 shooters and no sleep they would look like the ones mentioned in this thread and get double the views??? That's a thought.

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Steve Sanchez 14 years ago

So if this article is getting this many views from here then you are creating even more backlinks for the site in question. Is this your article? If so, brilliant piece of psychological marketing.
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MsDebra 14 years ago

I've seen it a lot of this at ezinearticles lately. Maybe he's a paid member. At $100 a month they almost can't turn down bad stuff.
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  Originally Posted by MsDebra
  
  I've seen it a lot of this at ezinearticles lately. Maybe he's a paid member. At $100 a month they almost can't turn down bad stuff.
  
  That's a shame....
  
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1960Texan 14 years ago

Originally Posted by TimG

...if anyone can tell me what "Do not make the sport past 17h" means I have will achieved one of the items on my bucket list. :rolleyes:
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Just a guess, but it should probably read "Do not exercise after 5pm."

Ezine seems to be trying to get their content cleaned up, they have too much to lose by using articles like this one.

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Amber Jalink

14 years ago

Originally Posted by dbarnum

Unbelievable, wow

The first couple sentences shout out Ughhhh:

"Nowadays one needs to compete actually difficult to obtain ahead in your everyday living and also this point concerns every aspect of ones life such as physical conditioning. In purchase being nicely accepted in society, it really is significant that a single excels in each and every aspect which includes physical health and fitness."

:confused:

Wow, EA

LOL - we get crap like this submitted every day. They get the delete button REAL fast.... I'm surprised EZA let it go through.

Actually, whenever I see "Nowadays" as the first word - most times they're spam and I know it from that before I continue reading (which I do to verify - but fair warning - don't start your articles with "nowadays" - it tells me its probably a spinned article that is probably NOT very coherent)

I can't believe people don't proof their OWN articles.

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14 years ago

The quality of that article is really questionable. I think it maybe a translated version.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by stevecl

Just been browsing ezine articles and just came across the following article. Looks like the editor was having a bad day on this one!!!!

How to Obtain Six Pack Abs - The Ultimate and Simple Methods to Have 6 Pack Abs

Any idea's how this got through?

If you searched for a little longer, you'd have found hundreds of similar articles on there.

I have never had a single spun (manually) article rejected by ezines. A lot of people here claim that it's impossible to get spun articles through. Go figure.

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x3xsolxdierx3x

14 years ago

I don't use EZA.

Is this type of quality common there? If so...then, this just reinforces my belief that they have some serious issues to address ASAP....

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NicoleBeckett

14 years ago

Originally Posted by christopherNV

I'm getting the impression that Quality Content isn't a concern of at several of the larger article directories anymore. Not sure if they just don't care or if they are swamped with so many (automated) submission that quality control has become a thing of the past.

The directories may or may not care about quality content, but that article is a prime example of why content is so important. I would be willing to bet that no one on here is going to click on the guy's link after reading that garbage. The author made himself, and his business, look unprofessional and downright silly by publishing that article.

Even if the article directories don't care about quality content, it's still no excuse to publish poorly-written articles. This thread is proof that no one takes them seriously.

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scrofford

14 years ago

Maybe you should contact them and point all of these things out. They may or may not listen.

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zachary0611

14 years ago

Whats the purpose of this article? Is it just to gain a back link? I bet he has got a click through rate of .0000001%.

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wordwizard 14 years ago

Wow! That is unbelievable.

BTW, the article got 1,918 views since May 24th 2010! No telling about the click-throughs.

And considering how strongly worded EZA's prohibitions against spinning etc. are, this is even more astounding.

But then again... I just discovered that one of the articles I submitted for a client, which was on drum storage (you know, the kind of big ugly drums filled with oil and/or chemicals that they have sitting around in industrial plants) was reassigned to the "Music/musical instruments" section.

Can you believe that! The "editor" can't have read much past the title to have missed this one, especially since it was submitted in the appropriate category.

i think I'll send a ticket to support ;-)
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14 years ago

hahaha this is just great. I've never seen an article so poorly spun that actually made to Ezine. Kinda hard to beleive but there it is haha.

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tommydesmond

14 years ago

Yeah, I haven't been supremely impressed with Ezine's quality. There's a lot of garbage up there. I guess they have to be working to an extent though, I've heard several success stories about them.

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x3xsolxdierx3x

14 years ago

...but, beyond their TOS, and editorial guidelines, what other quality control procedures do they have? (I genuinly don't know)....

Do they require a writer to be pre-approved, after their first 10-20-50 articles are submitted and manually approved?

If not....they should strongly consider diverting the thousands of $$$/day that their website, no doubt, earns...and, hiring extra staffing....

It's they least they could do to safeguard their reputation. Thousands of people are being sucked in, via the search engines, and they are being exposed to that crap. If it's an isolated incident, then, that's cool....articles slip through here or there....but, for how much the website earns, they 'should' have full time staff that can pick up on that...

(or...at least tell them to monitor Warrior Forum...lol)

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Steven Wagenheim

14 years ago

Okay, that article was submitted on May 24, 2010...long after the so called
crack down on "bad" articles.

There is NO excuse for that getting through unless the editor was stoned
on ludes at the time.

NO excuse.

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CDarklock

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Okay, that article was submitted on May 24, 2010...long after the so called crack down on "bad" articles.

They also added a lot of new editors.

Many of those new editors were crap. They did a half-arsed job, screwed up all over the place, and abused their authority to cover it up.

Some of us were casualties of that. We caught editors running automated scripts and approving the output (without review) instead of actually reading the articles, and when we pointed out the evidence our articles and accounts disappeared.

And as a result, EZA has lost some pretty damn good writers.

I'd be a lot more concerned about that than I would about a few crap articles making it through.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by CDarklock

They also added a lot of new editors.

Many of those new editors were crap. They did a half-arsed job, screwed up all over the place, and abused their authority to cover it up.

Some of us were casualties of that. We caught editors running automated scripts and approving the output (without review) instead of actually reading the articles, and when we pointed out the evidence our articles and accounts disappeared.

And as a result, EZA has lost some pretty damn good writers.

I'd be a lot more concerned about that than I would about a few crap articles making it through.

Thanks for the explanation Caliban. I don't really keep up with that stuff,
as if I'd even know where to find the dirt.

Amazing...just amazing.

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stevecl

14 years ago

So it has, the other masterpieces are still there though...

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14 years ago

Crap content on the internet who would have thought...

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x3xsolxdierx3x 14 years ago

lol...does anyone here remember that thread "Is EZA dead", that was posted a few weeks ago, and had like 30 pages of comment....?

I wonder if THAT is where this thread is headed....lol
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stevecl

14 years ago

Just noticed the resource box on some of his other articles are pointing to a site completely non related to the article. Backlink building at its finest :-)

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by christopherNV

You're looking at that article from the wrong angle. The author is playing a different IM game.

I don't think the author cares if anybody clicks on his links or republishes that article. It's an example of somebody using ezinearticles for backlinks, simple as that.

I'm sure the author has submitted similar crap to hundreds of other article directories for the same purpose. I wouldn't doubt that the author also has several accounts to double or triple his efforts.

It's the same concept as automated blog commenting but in this case article directories are the abused targets.

Also, I don't think the author cares about his reputation. It's a bogus name with a fake pick so the real person hasn't had their reputation or business damaged and he/she could even be lurking amongst us

Christopher, we realize that article marketers do this. That's not the
point. We're not stupid. The point is EZA is supposed to be above the
other directories.

Apparently, they're not.

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wordwizard

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Crew Chief

He has a PLATINUM account... hehehe...

Yep, Sandra is right! It's called Social Engineering. You engineer the article to subconsciously illicit the reader to want to click the advertisement or links.

Top IMers have this tactic mastered!

These types of articles are all over EZA.

Do you really think they are actually reading "ALL" of the submissions, line-by-line?

Certain IMers have put EZA on some sort of idealistic pedestal, while other IMers know the real deal and use it to their advantage.

Giles, the Crew Chief

Are you sure about the Platinum author thing? He doesn't have a little star next to his name and there's no other indication of that either that I can find. He's probably a basic plus... at least I'd guess.

Originally Posted by CDarklock

They also added a lot of new editors.

Many of those new editors were crap. They did a half-arsed job, screwed up all over the place, and abused their authority to cover it up.

Some of us were casualties of that. We caught editors running automated scripts and approving the output (without review) instead of actually reading the articles, and when we pointed out the evidence our articles and accounts disappeared.

And as a result, EZA has lost some pretty damn good writers.

I'd be a lot more concerned about that than I would about a few crap articles making it through.

They ran automated scripts to "review" the articles? Wow!

I guess that explains the "drum" incident above, where they reassigned an article on industrial drum storage to the Musical Instruments category.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by christopherNV

Following up on TimG's comment about proof reading and if it's 100% human or not.

Are the article directories making enough to hire a suitable editorial staff?

Anyone have any idea how much ezine or the other big article directories make?

I know they get a lot of traffic but a gazillion authors going to a site to submit articles isn't exactly great traffic.

I would guess a few thousand $$$/day.... (*Going to do a Google search to see if a more accurate # can be found*)

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x3xsolxdierx3x 14 years ago

Originally Posted by NY1

You won't find a reliable number. EZA is a private company, and their financial records are not going to be found through Google.

At least, they should not be.

FWIW....

They do have a Google Adsense Premium account, which means that not only do they get to display more Adsense blocks (than the typical Adsense Publisher), but they also get to negotiate revenue share, from those ads, directly with Google (another # we will probably never know...lol)
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aaallday2010

14 years ago

The article seems to have been deleted, but I took a look at his other articles and they're all barely readable. Looks like EZA is not manually checking articles any more.

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Toots

14 years ago

It does worry me that we are junking the web up.
When I started out in internet marketing I was told to just write articles, don't worry about the quality as you are just wanting the back links.
This is something that I have battled with as I feel all content should be quality when you are building your online image.
If you are wanting to be in this game long term you need to only submit quality.

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jeff_k

14 years ago

I am not familiar with article spinning, but I have had a few articles written by freelancers from India (not trying to be derogatory or anything like that just stating where the freelancers where from) that gave me articles with quality such as the above one on Ezine Articles.

I just took the meat of the content and fixed the grammatical errors.
Its a lot easier then writing it myself and I only payed $1.50 for the articles.

So, just saying but English could not be their native language and to them it looked correct, and the Editor just let it through.

I am waiting for an article on EA to be published though, and it is a great articles with no flaws. I love freelancers who can write good. lol.

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MrsStover

14 years ago

I am a great writer, I actually took English in University, and I just cringe at some of the horrible articles I read on the internet. What REALLY bothers me is Yahoo news...very poorly written articles!

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thebitbotdotcom

14 years ago

Maybe he was a trusted author at some point and then started submitting crap later. The reason I say that is because for a short while I was running an article directory and articles were flying in left and right. They were coming in so fast that I found myself approving articles from authors that I knew submitted quality content originally. They had gained my trust so I had no problem approving their articles with little more than a glimpse. However, that bit me in the rear down the road.

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14 years ago

Yes, the quality is woeful and the obvious conclusion is that these articles are not actually read. Or those responsible for reading (editors) are not checked up on. Obviously the volume of submissions has increased faster than EZA's ability to cope, and yes, they may be depending on the fact that a particular author submitted good quality in the past.
Although there is a time lag between reputation and reality, eventually poor quality will begin to hurt. And as far as us article marketers go, we would really be only shooting ourselves in the foot to submit rubbish. Who's going to republish it and give us extra backlinks for our trouble?

Nah. Be true to yourself, whatever others may do.
You'll win in the end.

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Janice Sperry

14 years ago

You can "report" ezine articles but it is too much of a hassle.

Report this article if you suspect it is not original content, is in violation of our Editorial Guidelines or our Author's Terms of Service.

You have to submit your email address, explain why you are reporting it and enter captcha data. I doubt if anyone reports articles unless they are also stiff competition in some way.

It is sad because ezine used to be the best quality hands down. I would suspect as the biggest site they are monitoring all the negative feedback. Hopefully they will get their house in order.

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samjaynz

14 years ago

This is the kind of thing that frustrates me about EZA; I had my account removed from "good-standing" because too many of my articles dealt with "content of an overly-similar nature" (seriously, that was the reasoning) Well no duh, if my topic of knowledge is Amazonian dung beetle art then it makes sense I am going to pontificate on that subject. However, at least my pontification was conducted with proper proof-read, un-spun, grammatically correct English.

Oh well, that's all part of the fun of IM, amirite?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by samjaynz

This is the kind of thing that frustrates me about EZA; I had my account removed from "good-standing" because too many of my articles dealt with "content of an overly-similar nature" (seriously, that was the reasoning) Well no duh, if my topic of knowledge is Amazonian dung beetle art then it makes sense I am going to pontificate on that subject. However, at least my pontification was conducted with proper proof-read, un-spun, grammatically correct English.

Oh well, that's all part of the fun of IM, amirite?

Wait...hm....this would make it VERY difficult to hone out a presence in your niche, right? How many articles constituted "too many"? 100? 1,000? and, how similar were they?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x

Wait...hm....this would make it VERY difficult to hone out a presence in your niche, right? How many articles constituted "too many"? 100? 1,000? and, how similar were they?

Just so you know, my niche isn't actually dung beetle art, but I just thought that was a bit of humour for the day.

But pertaining to your question I had submitted around 250 articles, covering virtually every aspect of my niche (its a fairly specific niche mind you) I had never, ever used an automated article spinner, and I didn't just copy/paste paragraphs around, jumbling a few words hither and thither; every single article was "unique" (in my opinion at least)

Would you not agree that when writing in a particular niche it is virtually impossible to avoid repeating the odd point through a number of your articles? I always attempted to make each article read differently, even when using the same points from time to time; always changed the order, tact of the article etc.

To remedy the problem and get my account re-instated the editor in charge told me to go through and delete every single one of my articles that deals with that "overly similar" content. As if I'm going to delete 250 + articles; they're still bringing traffic and I've moved on to pastures greener. I did recently send an email complaining about what I feel is a bit of unfair treatment however.

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TheRichLife

14 years ago

I have yet to see an EZA article related to my niche that was worth reading. Their editors may check for duplicate content and basic grammar, but they definitely don't check to see if it makes sense or offers any value.

The good news for me is I can put an article on my site and it will immediately out-rank anything from EZA.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by TheRichLife

I have yet to see an EZA article related to my niche that was worth reading. Their editors may check for duplicate content and basic grammar, but they definitely don't check to see if it makes sense or offers any value.

The good news for me is I can put an article on my site and it will immediately out-rank anything from EZA.

It will immediately out-rank anything from EZA? Your own site has THAT much search engine authority? I don't write for them, but, they can still be pretty powerful....so much so, that alot of people swear by them...

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Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x

It will immediately out-rank anything from EZA? Your own site has THAT much search engine authority?

Yes, it does. This is an older site with good page rank. More importantly, the site is focused only on my niche. It doesn't have any content that is off topic, like EZA.

I recently set up a couple of auto-blogs to use as link building for SEO purposes back to my main site. I use feeds from relevant EZA categories to feed content to the blogs. So far, I've yet to read an article that I would actually consider publishing on my real site. The articles on these blogs range from what I consider to be complete crap, to those that are relatively well written, but don't display much (if any) knowledge on the subject.

I see the value in EZA if you're trying to build links or generate quick income, but once you have an authority site, it provides little (if any) value.
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MassiveMarketer

14 years ago

I guess because of thousands of articles they get, they miss out on really checking the quality of the articles. They should know that this reflects the name of their directory.

It could probably be spun or just written badly.

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Exfilius

14 years ago

Why would you even bother to submit well researched, quality article to a different site rather than your own? Once you become an authority in your niche, you will easily outrank EZA.

EZA is only for link-juice and you don't get more link-juice by submitting more articles.

I came, I dropped my link, I left - that's what EZA is for.

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rprost

14 years ago

Does the too many similar articles apply if you put them under different author names? As I understand the rules you can have ten different names on one account, can you submit similar articles under different names?

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TimG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by rprost

Does the too many similar articles apply if you put them under different author names? As I understand the rules you can have ten different names on one account, can you submit similar articles under different names?

I'm not sure what the limit on pen names is but I have about 15 or 16 at the moment with the intent to create more.

Submitting similar articles is not a huge issue as I sometimes use the same closing paragraph for my articles but you cannot submit articles with the same title so all titles have to be unique.

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FredJones

14 years ago

What's so surprising about it? I have seen articles of pathetic quality getting published in EZA over and over again.

And I have seen perfectly legitimate articles getting rejected as well.

EZA is as awesome as most other directories, but wears a cool mask.

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Crew Chief

14 years ago

Originally Posted by wordwizard

Are you sure about the Platinum author thing? He doesn't have a little star next to his name and there's no other indication of that either that I can find. He's probably a basic plus... at least I'd guess.
They ran automated scripts to "review" the articles? Wow!

That was a sarcastic quip (apparently not as humorous as I had intended - shaking head wondering in befuddlement why that joke didn't go over to well) and paradox of sorts; hence the...

A paradox because many Platinum EZA submit pure junk and their penmanship is gleefully accepted everyday!

Always has and always will be.

Originally Posted by dimeco

LOL - we get crap like this submitted every day. They get the delete button REAL fast.... I'm surprised EZA let it go through.

Surprised? [Scratching head thinking out loud]

It's amazing how various IMers and authors have catapulted EZA to some type of article directory guru status that has no flaws and when they see glaringly heinous literary poop on EZA they are aghast to say the least.

The article that the OP zeroed in on is nothing new!

Neither is it an anomaly or an aberration.

Just so you know EZA has THOUSANDS of the same type of crap articles in their database and they will remain. PLUS, they will be getting thousands more. So they catch some. Yes they do, it's a numbers game. Some they catch and slam and others will get in by the droves.

Take a deep breath and get over it.

For those who esteem EZA and see them as this pristine, immaculate and unpolluted provider of great and amazing literary content, welcome to the real world.

Take note of this next comment...

Originally Posted by Exfilius

I came, I dropped my link, I left - that's what EZA is for.

Some IMers, who are not aspiring authors and don't care to be, see EZA for one thing and one thing only, BL juice.

They don't care about gaining a literary reputation. They are using a pen name for goodness sake.

They don't care if someone finds their literary poop and posts it on forums.

They can replace that poop with a thousand more BLs even before someone finishes outing them.

I respect Christopher Knight, he's a great IMer but...

He is a Internet Marketer

And all Internet Marketers assess the bottom line and if evaluating articles is eating away at the bottom line, they will find away to automate that process... in order to cut costs!

On the flip side, once a pro SEOer figures out how to manipulate that system, (and they will figure it out) those articles that you despise will once again flood the database - even the more.

It's a game, sorta like a never ending chess match in which everyone DOES NOT play by the same rules.

If your intentions are to build a brand, establish credibility and let the world see your literary skills, more power to you!

Just realize that there is another IMer who just wants that link so he or she can move to the next 7,895 BLs.

Giles, the Crew Chief

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Crew Chief

Surprised? [Scratching head thinking out loud]

It's amazing how various IMers and authors have catapulted EZA to some type of article directory guru status that has no flaws and when they see glaringly heinous literary poop on EZA they are aghast to say the least.

The article that the OP zeroed in on is nothing new!

Neither is it an anomaly or an aberration.

Just so you know EZA has THOUSANDS of the same type of crap articles in their database and they will remain. PLUS, they will be getting thousands more. So they catch some. Yes they do, it's a numbers game. Some they catch and slam and others will get in by the droves.

Take a deep breath and get over it.

For those who esteem EZA and see them as this pristine, immaculate and unpolluted provider of great and amazing literary content, welcome to the real world.

Giles, the Crew Chief

Personally I really don't use EZA, although I have an account there, but I posted that because I thought (understood) that they personally reviewed every article.

Obviously I was wrong.

And no, I never considered them - or many others as "guru" status regardless of size, so please don't assume I did

- but as an article directory owner, I know its NOt easy keeping up with it all when it is done by a person. Now it makes sense as to how it got through.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Crew Chief

That was a sarcastic quip (apparently not as humorous as I had intended - shaking head wondering in befuddlement why that joke didn't go over to well) and paradox of sorts; hence the...

A paradox because many Platinum EZA submit pure junk and their penmanship is gleefully accepted everyday!

Always has and always will be.

Surprised? [Scratching head thinking out loud]

It's amazing how various IMers and authors have catapulted EZA to some type of article directory guru status that has no flaws and when they see glaringly heinous literary poop on EZA they are aghast to say the least.

The article that the OP zeroed in on is nothing new!

Neither is it an anomaly or an aberration.

Just so you know EZA has THOUSANDS of the same type of crap articles in their database and they will remain. PLUS, they will be getting thousands more. So they catch some. Yes they do, it's a numbers game. Some they catch and slam and others will get in by the droves.

Take a deep breath and get over it.

For those who esteem EZA and see them as this pristine, immaculate and unpolluted provider of great and amazing literary content, welcome to the real world.

Take note of this next comment...

Some IMers, who are not aspiring authors and don't care to be, see EZA for one thing and one thing only, BL juice.

They don't care about gaining a literary reputation. They are using a pen name for goodness sake.

They don't care if someone finds their literary poop and posts it on forums.

They can replace that poop with a thousand more BLs even before someone finishes outing them.

I respect Christopher Knight, he's a great IMer but...

He is a Internet Marketer

And all Internet Marketers assess the bottom line and if evaluating articles is eating away at the bottom line, they will find away to automate that process... in order to cut costs!

On the flip side, once a pro SEOer figures out how to manipulate that system, (and they will figure it out) those articles that you despise will once again flood the database - even the more.

It's a game, sorta like a never ending chess match in which everyone DOES NOT play by the same rules.

If your intentions are to build a brand, establish credibility and let the world see your literary skills, more power to you!

Just realize that there is another IMer who just wants that link so he or she can move to the next 7,895 BLs.

Giles, the Crew Chief

"Just so you know EZA has THOUSANDS of the same type of crap articles in their database and they will remain. PLUS, they will be getting thousands more. So they catch some. Yes they do, it's a numbers game. Some they catch and slam and others will get in by the droves."

My question is: If this is as rampant as it seems (some in thread would say it isn't, while others are saying it's more than a simple isolated occurrence), what are the broader implications to how this directory is perceived by search engines. Didn't Squidoo, at one time, catapult in growth and popularity, until Google realized that it had a ton of garbage and porn on it's site, and, then, seriously "slapped" Squidoo....

....I have noticed, in some of even the largest, most authority sites, efforts being made to control for quality, long after it had been allowed to persist for years. These sites built themselves, and their bottom lines, off of allowing garbage simply because it expanded their website pages, and, afforded essentially more 'real estate' online to display more and more ads....eHow had their massive article sweeps, and other sites appear to be catching on to a trend of increasing quality control in this industry...

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Ernie Lo

14 years ago

Not surprising to be honest. Very rarely is the most popular anything ever the best.

Playstation? Nope. Iphone nope? Dominos Pizza nope?

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x3xsolxdierx3x 14 years ago

I never really 'watched' Ezine Articles very carefully or researched them, however, I do know that similar sites, in the early stages of their growth, were notorious for just throwing tens of thousands of $$$ into Adwords campaigns....unfortunately, with little interest or desire in safeguarding the quality of their databases....

This is evidenced by the fact that, like I said previously, sites like Squidoo emerged to the top relatively quickly, only to look back and say "hey, we need to institute some serious quality control ASAP"....while necessary, what they, in particular, did was pi$$ off alot of people because certain topics essentially became off limits (debatable, but, IMHO, this was for the better with consideration to the longterm viability and livelihood of that site....)

EZA 'appears' to need to do some serious in-house cleanups ASAP.....
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14 years ago

Well well... EZA doesn't do as good as before for me since last month...

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Spot the Ball

14 years ago

I'm thinking about dropping Eza alltogether.

Waiting 5 days and articles still not reviewed is like 5 days wasted where you cannot post your articles anywhere else, could have been posted on dozens of sites by now and recieving backlinks/views.

Info barrel will be getting my articles first in line, at least I can make some money over there and not have to put my article marketing on hold.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Spot the Ball

I'm thinking about dropping Eza alltogether.

Waiting 5 days and articles still not reviewed is like 5 days wasted where you cannot post your articles anywhere else, could have been posted on dozens of sites by now and recieving backlinks/views.

Info barrel will be getting my articles first in line, at least I can make some money over there and not have to put my article marketing on hold.

But....you could pay $97/month and have your articles approved faster, Spot

(Sounds like a great deal to me... *hint of sarcasm*)

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Spot the Ball

14 years ago

Yeah, its pretty crazy really.

There are other places to put your content out on that actually are more likely to recieve higher page hits AND earn revenue.

When I,ve put content on some doc sharing sites I,ve recieved more hits in 1 day than 1 month with EZA.

Hub pages were the same although I dont really like Hub pages with their crazy no follow/do follow policie's.

Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x

But....you could pay $97/month and have your articles approved faster, Spot

(Sounds like a great deal to me... *hint of sarcasm*)

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x3xsolxdierx3x

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Spot the Ball

Yeah, its pretty crazy really.

There are other places to put your content out on that actually are more likely to recieve higher page hits AND earn revenue.

When I,ve put content on some doc sharing sites I,ve recieved more hits in 1 day than 1 month with EZA.

Hub pages were the same although I dont really like Hub pages with their crazy no follow/do follow policie's.

This is what I've been trying to tell people....

"When I,ve put content on some doc sharing sites I,ve recieved more hits in 1 day than 1 month with EZA."

This just 'depends'.....it's not so much a reflection entirely of the actual directory, but with regards to the leverage a person has as well (an article of mine COULD get 20,000+ views overnight, of course, if I had a 50 address mailing list....)....With so many members worldwide, you are bound to run into both successes stories, as well as, those who have given up on the platform...it just depends...

"Hub pages were the same although I dont really like Hub pages with their crazy no follow/do follow policie's."

I do like HubPages because, unlike some sites, they actually 'appear' to have a moral compass...plus, they are transparent with their operations/revenue share/etc. Their "no-follow/do-follow" policies have been a major criticism I have had of them.

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persianprince

14 years ago

This is plain wrong. If you don't know how to use it properly then you obviously won't get good results.

Originally Posted by Spot the Ball

Yeah, its pretty crazy really.

There are other places to put your content out on that actually are more likely to recieve higher page hits AND earn revenue.

When I,ve put content on some doc sharing sites I,ve recieved more hits in 1 day than 1 month with EZA.

Hub pages were the same although I dont really like Hub pages with their crazy no follow/do follow policie's.

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Crew Chief

14 years ago

Originally Posted by dimeco

And no, I never considered them - or many others as "guru" status regardless of size, so please don't assume I did

- but as an article directory owner, I know its NOt easy keeping up with it all when it is done by a person. Now it makes sense as to how it got through. Amber

Oh no Amber, I wasn't pointing you out; I merely used your statement as a launching pad to make my point.

I never assume anything. [sipping a Ultra Amber Light Beer while figuring out how to clean up this potential mess]

Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x

eHow had their massive article sweeps, and other sites appear to be catching on to a trend of increasing quality control in this industry...

This trend is not about quality; it is about monetization. They are looking at the bottom line and how to better monetize their sites! Numerous AD owners are making moves; most of them are going in the wrong direction. For example, a lot of ADs who used the Article Dashboard platform are switching over to the WP AD platform. Bad move because they are all using the same plugins to get the same articles from the same sources. It's a house built on sand that will eventually collapse.

Originally Posted by Ernie Lonardo

EZA better be careful though, or it may bite them in the ass one day.

Ernie, they may like that kinda stuff...

[Off Topic] I'm on a roll today because I just cracked the hell out of a FIERCELY competitive market and now I'm taking no prisoners.

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x3xsolxdierx3x

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Crew Chief

Oh no Amber, I wasn't pointing you out; I merely used your statement as a launching pad to make my point.

I never assume anything. [sipping a Ultra Amber Light Beer while figuring out how to clean up this potential mess]

This trend is not about quality; it is about monetization.

...but, they go hand-in-hand...unless, I'm misunderstanding you....

Originally Posted by Crew Chief

They are looking at the bottom line and how to better monetize their sites! Numerous AD owners are making moves; most of them are going in the wrong direction. For example, a lot of ADs who used the Article Dashboard platform are switching over to the WP AD platform. Bad move because they are all using the same plugins to get the same articles from the same sources. It's a house built on sand that will eventually collapse.

Ernie, they may like that kinda stuff...

Originally Posted by Crew Chief

[Off Topic] I'm on a roll today because I just cracked the hell out of a FIERCELY competitive market and now I'm taking no prisoners.

That's the spirit! Hope you crush it! I have an article now ranked above 300, in Google, for the keyword "People".....I can have an early retirement if I can get that on the first page (considering that "People" is searched for millions upon millions of times, daily, worldwide...)

Originally Posted by Crew Chief

Giles, the Crew Chief

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scrofford

14 years ago

Just clicked on the OP's link to that article and Ezinearticles must have removed it because it's gone.

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Alfred Shelver

14 years ago

Oh no... Not Ezine I was always made to believe that Ezine is the Holy Grail only the best get in there.... Well on one hand I am not worried as much about my guarantee that all my articles will be Ezine approved ... on the other it is terrible if quality goes down so badly what's next,

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Crew Chief

14 years ago

Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x

...but, they go hand-in-hand...unless, I'm misunderstanding you....

Not necessarily! Some AD sites are making a killing off of poop content because they understand social engineering. They understand the psychology behind how a poorly written article subconsciously becomes the impetus for people to click on the ads and they wear it out!

Remember the wing man in dating?

He's the guy who feigns being a jerk so that his friend can come to the girl's rescue and make the hookup. She had no idea the two were working in collusion.

When a lot of authors and IMers see poop content they swear the person is lazy, needs to find another career or needs to learn English, etc., etc.

They don't realize it many cases, it was the intent of the IMer to place poop content because they are engaging in social engineering. So railing them about the poop content has about as much impact as railing on a greyhound for running.

But...

When a AD is trying to build a Brand Name and establish market dominance, they usually for the most part won't engage in this tactic.

Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x

That's the spirit! Hope you crush it! I have an article now ranked above 300, in Google, for the keyword "People".....I can have an early retirement if I can get that on the first page (considering that "People" is searched for millions upon millions of times, daily, worldwide...)

This one was an extremely tough nut to crack but now I'm intent on pushing everyone off the first page.

...as in bye, bye.

Originally Posted by nashelver

Oh no... Not Ezine I was always made to believe that Ezine is the Holy Grail only the best get in there.... Well on one hand I am not worried as much about my guarantee that all my articles will be Ezine approved ... on the other it is terrible if quality goes down so badly what's next,

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Norma Rickman

14 years ago

Readers online scan articles, they don't read them. If you want clicks, you write articles with stand-alone paragraphs; don't write them in narrative style. You repeat your long-tails in your articles until they are almost like a mantra to your reader.

You are really going for a psychological effect, not to engage the reader. That's how junk like the above flies under the radar.

Besides, EZA makes me laugh with their "quality, unique content." When you have niches such as get your ex back with thousands of articles, it's impossible that there is no duplication and repetition of ideas and phrasing. Rehash, regurgitate and repeat is the way to get ahead on EZA, unfortunately.

Their huge concern about getting quality content for their readers is more about getting the highest paying Adsense words from the author's articles making money for them.

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x3xsolxdierx3x

14 years ago

Originally Posted by norje

Readers online scan articles, they don't read them. If you want clicks, you write articles with stand-alone paragraphs; don't write them in narrative style. You repeat your long-tails in your articles until they are almost like a mantra to your reader.

You are really going for a psychological effect, not to engage the reader. That's how junk like the above flies under the radar.

Besides, EZA makes me laugh with their "quality, unique content." When you have niches such as get your ex back with thousands of articles, it's impossible that there is no duplication and repetition of ideas and phrasing. Rehash, regurgitate and repeat is the way to get ahead on EZA, unfortunately.

Their huge concern about getting quality content for their readers is more about getting the highest paying Adsense words from the author's articles making money for them.

I know the almighty dollar rules the world, however, when real quality takes a backseat to greed, that could be the beginning of their downfall...

Seriously...I get similar search engine authority elsewhere AND share revenue....I'm just saying....those guys have an Adsense Premium account (which means that not only do they get to display more Ad Blocks, but they even get to negotiate ad revenue share directly with Google), and they don't share a dime of that with their writers.

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Kay King

14 years ago

The writer's profile is still on EZA and shows "expert" status and 23 total articles published at EZA.

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Beverley Watts

14 years ago

Gives me hope actually!!

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Caiden

14 years ago

I'm a Premium member and I've had articles rejected when I have accidentally messed up formatting or missed a copy and paste word count type mistake. Proves it's not all roses just because you stump up $97!

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JohnMcCabe 14 years ago

According to the interview snippet posted earlier, every article is reviewed by an editor and someone from QC. All I can say is "Huh???"

If that's true, there should be some new job openings in the QC department...

Otherwise, one poor blog owner had some major smoke blown up her skirt...
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x3xsolxdierx3x

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Caiden

I'm a Premium member and I've had articles rejected when I have accidentally messed up formatting or missed a copy and paste word count type mistake. Proves it's not all roses just because you stump up $97!

When you are rejected, what is the typical procedure? By that, I mean, when your article is rejected, are you given an explanation (if only one or two sentences) about what you did wrong, or what you can do better, in order to have your article approved? If 'regular' writers aren't given this courtesy, after paying $97/month, I would hope that they would have the staff in place to at least off THIS to those paying customers....

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Mohammad Afaq

14 years ago

And then people are amazed at the click through rates they get

The article is gone. I get directed to a 404 page

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Aira Bongco

14 years ago

Yup. Mohammad is right. So now maybe they will double check articles so those spun articles do not come through.

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PaulV 14 years ago

It says the page is unavailable right now. Maybe they got complaints or negative reports about this and finally took a glace over it to see it didn't comply to any requirements.
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