YES! I made 6.33USD from Squidoo Today!

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So... after hours and hours, days and days, weeks and weeks, I am happy to say that I made $6.33 USD.

Now... only if I could do this x One Million.

Truthfully... I am about a day or two from giving up.

Or I need some new plan/strategy to attack this IM thing.

My niche is the TEACH ENGLISH OVERSEAS/ABROAD niche.
I use Squidoo Lenses, Hubpages and Article Marketing / Document Sharing as my way of Attack.

I get around 1000 clicks a month from my Squidoo Lenses
And around 2000 clicks from my Hubpages Hubs...

However.... I am not really seeing any results....

Be a Cool Guy and Shed Your knowledge with a struggling wanna be IM and guide me to success...........................
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  • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
    Yes!!!!!

    I'm happy for ya!

    One tiny bit of advice, if I may?

    Don't give up!

    You seem to have some basics in place. All you seem to need right now is a focused and actionable plan.

    There are many people around the forum who have stuff targeted to what you need... Guides, free reports etc.

    You just need to find a strategy, just one single plan of attack and then implement it until you hit a good run of form.

    Nobody can guide you to success. You can create it for yourself, though.

    Learn -> Apply -> Profit -> Learn -> Apply -> Profit

    What kind of budget do you have?

    What skills do you have?

    What time do you have to devote to making it work for you?

    These are the kind of questions that you need to factor into your process.

    You've made some money right now, don't forget that. As little as it may seem, you have actually done more than most IM n00bs.

    Jay
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    • Profile picture of the author GoogleWarrior
      I am going to get the Bookmarking Demon so that I can use it on my sites... but I don't plan on purchasing this until 2 weeks from now. And I am also thinking of getting a domain and hosting to try "OWN YOUR OWN WEBSITE THING," to see how that works out.
      Other than that... I don't really know what else I can do. I mean to always be adding new content to my Squidoo lenses is not really worth the effort to keep it atop the number one spot.

      If I feel, "IN THE MOOD," then I will add some content to it... but now it just seems a little pointless....
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    • Profile picture of the author thefluffanutta
      Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

      One tiny bit of advice, if I may?

      Don't give up!
      I'll echo this advice - take your $6.33 and build on it.

      Keep creating lenses, link related ones together, and generate backlinks to them all. As you build up your portfolio, and diversify your subjects, you will increase your monthly revenue.

      Here are some payment statistics from Squidoo to encourage you:
      Originally Posted by Squidoo

      * 400 lensmasters were paid $50 cash. MANY more earned at least that and donated some of it.
      * 180 lensmasters were paid over $100 in cash; 60 were paid over $250
      * Almost 20 lensmasters were paid over $500, including three paid over $1000!
      (this doesn't include revenue from 3rd party affiliates)
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  • Profile picture of the author Rikki_Fawkes
    Originally Posted by GoogleWarrior View Post

    So... after hours and hours, days and days, weeks and weeks, I am happy to say that I made $6.33 USD.

    Now... only if I could do this x One Million.

    Truthfully... I am about a day or two from giving up.

    Or I need some new plan/strategy to attack this IM thing.

    My niche is the TEACH ENGLISH OVERSEAS/ABROAD niche.
    I use Squidoo Lenses, Hubpages and Article Marketing / Document Sharing as my way of Attack.

    I get around 1000 clicks a month from my Squidoo Lenses
    And around 2000 clicks from my Hubpages Hubs...

    However.... I am not really seeing any results....

    Be a Cool Guy and Shed Your knowledge with a struggling wanna be IM and guide me to success...........................
    Squidoo gives IM'ers mixed results. I've heard of some who use it as their "squeeze page" (so to speak) between an article and a product, while others find no use for it at all. You really have to get a lot of traffic to make money on the ads and such, it seems. I've actually gotten a few lead referrals (people signing up for tiered article sites through my links, such as Bukisa and AC), but no real money.

    But I'm really glad to hear you made some! Keep up the good work.
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  • Profile picture of the author -Sam
    I made my first $10 without putting much hard work like you seem to be doing.
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    • If this is any motivation, I've made $400(ish) through hubpages alone selling Clickbank Products since end of May. (no website)

      I plan to get 30 articles in 30 different Niches Ranked in top 3 of Google, then move onto my own website and start list building.
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  • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
    Ok...I'm going to jump in here because I do feel very confident in my experience and research that I've done with various Web 2.0 social media properties. For as much as I love Squidoo, and the marketing genius behind Seth Godin, there are some serious criticisms I have of their platform...without getting to involved, you paint the same picture as had been my experience.

    "So... after hours and hours, days and days, weeks and weeks, I am happy to say that I made $6.33 USD."

    In an effort to encourage continually updated content, there platform is set up so that a great deal of effort has to be exerted, comparable to what you just wrote, in order to achieve an ever-fluctuating lensrank (that move thousands of places, each day, if you take even one day off). Not only that, but there are thousands upon thousands of lensmasters who are continually trying to get their lenses into the top tier so as to qualify for an ever changing tiered payment.

    My question is: Did that $6.33 come as a result of their tiered lensrank payment?

    P.s. If that payment actually came from Squidoo (and wasn't the result of your own affiliations that deposit into your own account), then, (this month) it could actually be higher than what you should have normally gotten. Squidoo DID make an announcement yesterday that they had Paypal'ed the wrong amount to many of their writers, which was much higher than what they had really earned and deserved. I'm not sure if this includes you, but it is possible....this is actually the first time I have had this happen with Squidoo ever. (Didn't mean to put a damper on your day....)

    Originally Posted by GoogleWarrior View Post

    So... after hours and hours, days and days, weeks and weeks, I am happy to say that I made $6.33 USD.

    Now... only if I could do this x One Million.

    Truthfully... I am about a day or two from giving up.

    Or I need some new plan/strategy to attack this IM thing.

    My niche is the TEACH ENGLISH OVERSEAS/ABROAD niche.
    I use Squidoo Lenses, Hubpages and Article Marketing / Document Sharing as my way of Attack.

    I get around 1000 clicks a month from my Squidoo Lenses
    And around 2000 clicks from my Hubpages Hubs...

    However.... I am not really seeing any results....

    Be a Cool Guy and Shed Your knowledge with a struggling wanna be IM and guide me to success...........................
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    • Profile picture of the author GoogleWarrior
      Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

      Ok...I'm going to jump in here because I do feel very confident in my experience and research that I've done with various Web 2.0 social media properties. For as much as I love Squidoo, and the marketing genius behind Seth Godin, there are some serious criticisms I have of their platform...without getting to involved, you paint the same picture as had been my experience.

      "So... after hours and hours, days and days, weeks and weeks, I am happy to say that I made $6.33 USD."

      In an effort to encourage continually updated content, there platform is set up so that a great deal of effort has to be exerted, comparable to what you just wrote, in order to achieve an ever-fluctuating lensrank (that move thousands of places, each day, if you take even one day off). Not only that, but there are thousands upon thousands of lensmasters who are continually trying to get their lenses into the top tier so as to qualify for an ever changing tiered payment.

      My question is: Did that $6.33 come as a result of their tiered lensrank payment?

      P.s. If that payment actually came from Squidoo (and wasn't the result of your own affiliations that deposit into your own account), then, (this month) it could actually be higher than what you should have normally gotten. Squidoo DID make an announcement yesterday that they had Paypal'ed the wrong amount to many of their writers, which was much higher than what they had really earned and deserved. I'm not sure if this includes you, but it is possible....this is actually the first time I have had this happen with Squidoo ever. (Didn't mean to put a damper on your day....)
      No. I dont think they overpaid me or anything. I have also gotten 10 USD from them before and one other time I got money from them... However.... I have a lot of Lenses... like 50, but I only have about 5 really high traffic driving (like 10 - 50 people a month(insert frown face here)).... So... I need some new strategy to make some money online. Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rikki_Fawkes
      Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

      Ok...I'm going to jump in here because I do feel very confident in my experience and research that I've done with various Web 2.0 social media properties. For as much as I love Squidoo, and the marketing genius behind Seth Godin, there are some serious criticisms I have of their platform...without getting to involved, you paint the same picture as had been my experience.

      "So... after hours and hours, days and days, weeks and weeks, I am happy to say that I made $6.33 USD."

      In an effort to encourage continually updated content, there platform is set up so that a great deal of effort has to be exerted, comparable to what you just wrote, in order to achieve an ever-fluctuating lensrank (that move thousands of places, each day, if you take even one day off). Not only that, but there are thousands upon thousands of lensmasters who are continually trying to get their lenses into the top tier so as to qualify for an ever changing tiered payment.

      My question is: Did that $6.33 come as a result of their tiered lensrank payment?

      P.s. If that payment actually came from Squidoo (and wasn't the result of your own affiliations that deposit into your own account), then, (this month) it could actually be higher than what you should have normally gotten. Squidoo DID make an announcement yesterday that they had Paypal'ed the wrong amount to many of their writers, which was much higher than what they had really earned and deserved. I'm not sure if this includes you, but it is possible....this is actually the first time I have had this happen with Squidoo ever. (Didn't mean to put a damper on your day....)
      Word, Howie - some great stuff right there.

      There's actually a lot better places to write articles and earn ad payments or revenue share (as you know already) like Info Barrel and Bukisa, than through Squidoo. Squidoo is better for promoting affiliate products (although in VERY limited niches and with fewer links anymore - read that, no **** berry) than it is for getting ad payments.
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      • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
        Originally Posted by Rikki_Fawkes View Post

        Word, Howie - some great stuff right there.

        There's actually a lot better places to write articles and earn ad payments or revenue share (as you know already) like Info Barrel and Bukisa, than through Squidoo. Squidoo is better for promoting affiliate products (although in VERY limited niches and with fewer links anymore - read that, no **** berry) than it is for getting ad payments.
        I know that Google favors updated content, so, Squidoo is spot-on with providing the incentive, inherent to lensrank, in order to achieve this. Unfortunately, I think the tiered model payment needs a big overhaul considering the growth the site has experienced. Honestly, I can't tell you exactly what each tier earns now (it changes each month...it has increased a bit since the birth of the site), or how many lensranks you would have to fall in in order to qualify for that tiered payment...

        In theory, it's great...however, after studying this for a while, the system inherently lends to people....even the best writers....getting simply tired and burned out with little to show for it. I held a lens at #2 (in the business category: arguably, one of the hardest categories to achieve and maintain a high lensrank), for nearly 6 months (of course, with each day not updated, it fell like hundreds of spots...)...

        It has well over 300+ star ratings, and tons of user comments....unfortunately, it hardly earns anything. Granted, I could probably do 'more' with my own affiliations, however, it just because not really 'worth' the work.

        Conclusion: I use Squidoo for backlinks now. There is no way that I have the time or the energy to compete for their lensrank/tiered payments any longer. It is a shame....honestly, I think they need to seriously scrap the tiered payment system....the payment model needs a complete makeover.

        PLUS, compared to emerging competition, it is very inferior.
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  • Profile picture of the author GoogleWarrior
    TO X3XSOLDIERX3X,
    I checkout out some of your articles on squidoo and infobarrel. I was wondering what kind of money you make using INFOBARREL. And... I am RCA...want to be LPN and even get into BSN program. Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by GoogleWarrior View Post

      TO X3XSOLDIERX3X,
      I checkout out some of your articles on squidoo and infobarrel. I was wondering what kind of money you make using INFOBARREL. And... I am RCA...want to be LPN and even get into BSN program. Thanks
      GW,

      I have around 80 lenses on Squidoo. This last payout, I earned $33 there, however, the next day, they informed me that they had paid out more than I had actually earned...and, would just let me keep it for now, and deduct from next payouts....lol...no biggy....

      I have 250+ articles on Info Barrel, consistently earn a 90% revenue share, and earn around $300/month there. Granted, there are different capabilities, TOS, editorial guidelines, and general usages of both sites....you can do some things with Squidoo, that you can't do with Info Barrel (or HubPages or Suite101 or Xomba, etc...)....and vice-versa. Such is the case with all Web 2.0 social media properties. The best, most optimal approach is to use them all in conjunction with your own site. Bear in mind, my earnings there are on a site that has SIGNIFICANTLY less search engine authority that Squidoo.

      As far as revenue share, Info Barrel IS the best (when you consider strictly %...although, there are some that share 100%, but with such low search engine authority that it isn't even worth looking at them or investing time). Bear in mind, revenue share isn't the ONLY thing you should be looking at. You need to consider management, and search engine authority (among many other things). There are some sites who won't even tell you what % of revenue share writers will earn, yet, because they were among the first players in the Web 2.0 Social Media/content aggregation/revenue sharing industry, they established themselves quite nicely....

      (I could talk about this all day....let me know if you have more questions...)
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      • Profile picture of the author GoogleWarrior
        Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

        GW,

        I have around 80 lenses on Squidoo. This last payout, I earned $33 there, however, the next day, they informed me that they had paid out more than I had actually earned...and, would just let me keep it for now, and deduct from next payouts....lol...no biggy....

        I have 250+ articles on Info Barrel, consistently earn a 90% revenue share, and earn around $300/month there. Granted, there are different capabilities, TOS, editorial guidelines, and general usages of both sites....you can do some things with Squidoo, that you can't do with Info Barrel (or HubPages or Suite101 or Xomba, etc...)....and vice-versa. Such is the case with all Web 2.0 social media properties. The best, most optimal approach is to use them all in conjunction with your own site. Bear in mind, my earnings there are on a site that has SIGNIFICANTLY less search engine authority that Squidoo.

        As far as revenue share, Info Barrel IS the best (when you consider strictly %...although, there are some that share 100%, but with such low search engine authority that it isn't even worth looking at them or investing time). Bear in mind, revenue share isn't the ONLY thing you should be looking at. You need to consider management, and search engine authority (among many other things). There are some sites who won't even tell you what % of revenue share writers will earn, yet, because they were among the first players in the Web 2.0 Social Media/content aggregation/revenue sharing industry, they established themselves quite nicely....

        (I could talk about this all day....let me know if you have more questions...)
        So... you sold me on INFOBARREL. I will make an INFOBARREL SITE SOON... and I was also wondering about how your WSO's do. Because you seem like a PRO on this Warrior Forum Site. Could you give me some idea about your success with WSO and your other IM stuff. And I can tell that you are light years ahead of most of the other IM's out there.

        I also enjoyed your article about CHESS: Fool's Mate - but good luck trying to make that work.
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        • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
          Originally Posted by GoogleWarrior View Post

          So... you sold me on INFOBARREL. I will make an INFOBARREL SITE SOON... and I was also wondering about how your WSO's do. Because you seem like a PRO on this Warrior Forum Site. Could you give me some idea about your success with WSO and your other IM stuff. And I can tell that you are light years ahead of most of the other IM's out there.

          I also enjoyed your article about CHESS: Fool's Mate - but good luck trying to make that work.
          oh boy...cringe...lol....I'm really not trying to 'sell' you on any one platform, because, like I said, every one of them has very distinct advantages and disadvantages.....and, they can be used and leveraged in so many ways in conjunction with your own piece of real estate.

          "And I can tell that you are light years ahead of most of the other IM's out there."

          Not always, but, In this case, I am....

          P.s. One of the owners of Info Barrel began a ringtones business, a few years back, that earned well in excess of $50,000+/month.....the guys, at the helm of that ship KNOW what they are doing...

          On the other hand, rumor has it that Seth Godin has done quite well for himself, as well....

          One thing we can all learn is that there is some TREMENDOUS value buried in Web 2.0 properties, if they are leveraged in the right way.

          P.s.s. I like chess.
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      • Profile picture of the author PJ Harmsworth
        You are the top member at infobarrel and you earn £300 pm. This must be the earnings ceiling. I don't know how the pay out system works there, but is it possible that any other member earns more than you? Enlighten me, as I have no knowledge of Info Barrel.

        Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

        GW,

        I have around 80 lenses on Squidoo. This last payout, I earned $33 there, however, the next day, they informed me that they had paid out more than I had actually earned...and, would just let me keep it for now, and deduct from next payouts....lol...no biggy....

        I have 250+ articles on Info Barrel, consistently earn a 90% revenue share, and earn around $300/month there. Granted, there are different capabilities, TOS, editorial guidelines, and general usages of both sites....you can do some things with Squidoo, that you can't do with Info Barrel (or HubPages or Suite101 or Xomba, etc...)....and vice-versa. Such is the case with all Web 2.0 social media properties. The best, most optimal approach is to use them all in conjunction with your own site. Bear in mind, my earnings there are on a site that has SIGNIFICANTLY less search engine authority that Squidoo.

        As far as revenue share, Info Barrel IS the best (when you consider strictly %...although, there are some that share 100%, but with such low search engine authority that it isn't even worth looking at them or investing time). Bear in mind, revenue share isn't the ONLY thing you should be looking at. You need to consider management, and search engine authority (among many other things). There are some sites who won't even tell you what % of revenue share writers will earn, yet, because they were among the first players in the Web 2.0 Social Media/content aggregation/revenue sharing industry, they established themselves quite nicely....

        (I could talk about this all day....let me know if you have more questions...)
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        • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
          Originally Posted by PJ Harmsworth View Post

          You are the top member at infobarrel and you earn £300 pm. This must be the earnings ceiling. I don't know how the pay out system works there, but is it possible that any other member earns more than you? Enlighten me, as I have no knowledge of Info Barrel.
          No....the top earner is my friend, Jason (jcmayer777)...he earns over $1,000+/month, STRICTLY from Adsense... ($30-$50/day)

          This means that, he hasn't taken full advantage of affiliate link placements quite yet, etc.

          His articles, had he done nothing else from this point forward, as that site grows, matures, and gains search engine authority, WILL be worth in excess of $3,000/month (I truly believe that...).

          Once again, though, I really have ALOT of knowledge about other sites, as well. I'm not sure that we should just talk about one platform here. HubPages has some advantages and disadvantages...so, does Squidoo, and the other tons of Web 2.0 sites that are out there....

          My earnings definitely aren't the ceiling though

          EDIT: Didn't notice this before, but there is a bit of a disconnect between me being a "top member" there and earning the most. The "Top member" list is associated strictly with points, while noone really knows how much anyone there actually earns (unless they tell them). Did that make sense?
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          • Profile picture of the author Rikki_Fawkes
            Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

            EDIT: Didn't notice this before, but there is a bit of a disconnect between me being a "top member" there and earning the most. The "Top member" list is associated strictly with points, while noone really knows how much anyone there actually earns (unless they tell them). Did that make sense?
            Yes, excellent point- someone could submit 10,000 articles and be active in the community while still making pittance THEORETICALLY speaking. But someone else could have 10 articles that receive 500k views per day and earn way more. So there's a difference between "Top earners" and "Top members".
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            • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
              Originally Posted by Rikki_Fawkes View Post

              Yes, excellent point- someone could submit 10,000 articles and be active in the community while still making pittance THEORETICALLY speaking. But someone else could have 10 articles that receive 500k views per day and earn way more. So there's a difference between "Top earners" and "Top members".
              This is exactly right, Rikki...hit the nail right on the head....
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            • Profile picture of the author PJ Harmsworth
              Originally Posted by Rikki_Fawkes View Post

              Yes, excellent point- someone could submit 10,000 articles and be active in the community while still making pittance THEORETICALLY speaking. But someone else could have 10 articles that receive 500k views per day and earn way more. So there's a difference between "Top earners" and "Top members".
              So like good article writing. It is about subject matter, keywords and good relevant content....
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              • Profile picture of the author Rikki_Fawkes
                Originally Posted by PJ Harmsworth View Post

                So like good article writing. It is about subject matter, keywords and good relevant content....
                Yes - and QUALITY! Nobody likes reading crappy articles. And yes, writing about highly searched content will definitely get you more views/clicks than just what you're "passionate" about.
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              • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
                Originally Posted by PJ Harmsworth View Post

                So like good article writing. It is about subject matter, keywords and good relevant content....
                In order to not single out Info Barrel here, in the broader 'article submission' (whether it be revenue share or not) industry, there has been an emerging trend of greater quality control. This is, in part, related to how Google appears to be perceiving (and 'slapping') sites that allow garbage content. This is causing ALOT of sites to begin tighting up there foothold and oversight on quality control. Google, obviously, has a responsibility and duty to serve up the best, most accurate, quality content possible....this is a huge huge task, to say the least...

                There are sites out there, such as Squidoo themselves, they were very lax on their quality standards. There is a delicate medium here because, Internet marketers want to get as much out of a website that they possibly can, however, some actions and promotional methods take self-service to another level and actually are really quite detrimental to the site, and in this industry, that can have a negative impact on the collective/individual earnings of both the site, as well as the writers who work extremely hard.

                Personally, I would recommend looking into Info Barrel's quality control standards and compare them to similar websites. Although a small handful of sites, like Squidoo, emerged early, one downside has been that they have had to continually adapt and change in congruence with the demands and standards that Google places on them, and the internet in general. They've made mistakes....they initially allowed ALOT of porn (i believe that actually even had a porn category, at one point) and SPAM to overtake their platform, and a few years ago, were even "slapped" by Google, which impacted the site as well as the individuals.
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                • Profile picture of the author PJ Harmsworth
                  Yes Quality is very important. There is nothing worse than reading an Article that is full of 'hot air', extra "word filler" or has been badly spun.....



                  Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

                  In order to not single out Info Barrel here, in the broader 'article submission' (whether it be revenue share or not) industry, there has been an emerging trend of greater quality control. This is, in part, related to how Google appears to be perceiving (and 'slapping') sites that allow garbage content. This is causing ALOT of sites to begin tighting up there foothold and oversight on quality control. Google, obviously, has a responsibility and duty to serve up the best, most accurate, quality content possible....this is a huge huge task, to say the least...

                  There are sites out there, such as Squidoo themselves, they were very lax on their quality standards. There is a delicate medium here because, Internet marketers want to get as much out of a website that they possibly can, however, some actions and promotional methods take self-service to another level and actually are really quite detrimental to the site, and in this industry, that can have a negative impact on the collective/individual earnings of both the site, as well as the writers who work extremely hard.

                  Personally, I would recommend looking into Info Barrel's quality control standards and compare them to similar websites. Although a small handful of sites, like Squidoo, emerged early, one downside has been that they have had to continually adapt and change in congruence with the demands and standards that Google places on them, and the internet in general. They've made mistakes....they initially allowed ALOT of porn (i believe that actually even had a porn category, at one point) and SPAM to overtake their platform, and a few years ago, were even "slapped" by Google, which impacted the site as well as the individuals.
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                    if u think dat u r able to make ur own site......dan u hav to do it....
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          • Profile picture of the author PJ Harmsworth
            Yes that makes sense. So points don't mean prizes...not in this game

            Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

            No....the top earner is my friend, Jason (jcmayer777)...he earns over $1,000+/month, STRICTLY from Adsense... ($30-$50/day)

            This means that, he hasn't taken full advantage of affiliate link placements quite yet, etc.

            His articles, had he done nothing else from this point forward, as that site grows, matures, and gains search engine authority, WILL be worth in excess of $3,000/month (I truly believe that...).

            Once again, though, I really have ALOT of knowledge about other sites, as well. I'm not sure that we should just talk about one platform here. HubPages has some advantages and disadvantages...so, does Squidoo, and the other tons of Web 2.0 sites that are out there....

            My earnings definitely aren't the ceiling though

            EDIT: Didn't notice this before, but there is a bit of a disconnect between me being a "top member" there and earning the most. The "Top member" list is associated strictly with points, while noone really knows how much anyone there actually earns (unless they tell them). Did that make sense?
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    • Profile picture of the author Rikki_Fawkes
      Originally Posted by GoogleWarrior View Post

      TO X3XSOLDIERX3X,
      I checkout out some of your articles on squidoo and infobarrel. I was wondering what kind of money you make using INFOBARREL. And... I am RCA...want to be LPN and even get into BSN program. Thanks
      Also, with Info Barrel, you can include two self-serving links AND links in your resource box. So if you have your own website you want to promote, you can do that AND make money at the same time. In other words, EPIC WIN.
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      • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
        Just to stay on the safe side, maybe we should stear this thread/convo away from favoring any one particular platform? Each DOES have very distinct advantages and disadvantages.....

        Squidoo does have some pretty cool elements of funtionality that I enjoy. You can really use some of their models to gain alot of reader feedback and interactivity....they have a good thing going there, I just think that their payment structure needs a complete overhaul....

        They do do a VERY good job at being transparent, which I appreciate, unfortunately, rather than making it so complex to the point of confusion (I bet that a majority of people that sign up for Squidoo couldn't tell you EXACTLY how it's payment arrangement works without referencing a lens or something like that...), I think they should just have a flat revenue share arrangement, rather than a tiered arrangement...
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        • Profile picture of the author Calamaroo
          Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

          Just to stay on the safe side, maybe we should stear this thread/convo away from favoring any one particular platform? Each DOES have very distinct advantages and disadvantages.....

          Squidoo does have some pretty cool elements of funtionality that I enjoy. You can really use some of their models to gain alot of reader feedback and interactivity....they have a good thing going there, I just think that their payment structure needs a complete overhaul....

          They do do a VERY good job at being transparent, which I appreciate, unfortunately, rather than making it so complex to the point of confusion (I bet that a majority of people that sign up for Squidoo couldn't tell you EXACTLY how it's payment arrangement works without referencing a lens or something like that...), I think they should just have a flat revenue share arrangement, rather than a tiered arrangement...
          Are Squidoo's traffic or "visits" numbers accurate?
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      • Profile picture of the author John Henderson
        Originally Posted by Rikki_Fawkes View Post

        Also, with Info Barrel, you can include two self-serving links AND links in your resource box. So if you have your own website you want to promote, you can do that AND make money at the same time. In other words, EPIC WIN.
        While we're on the subject of linking, would it actually be beneficial to create links to your InfoBarrel article to improve its position on the SERPs and therefore improve your chances of making money from it?

        One more thing: Are there any limits to what an InfoBarrel article can be about? Is it okay to write about branded goods (e.g. a "how-to" guide for a particular software package or website)?
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        • Profile picture of the author Rikki_Fawkes
          Originally Posted by John Henderson View Post

          While we're on the subject of linking, would it actually be beneficial to create links to your InfoBarrel article to improve its position on the SERPs and therefore improve your chances of making money from it?

          One more thing: Are there any limits to what an InfoBarrel article can be about? Is it okay to write about branded goods (e.g. a "how-to" guide for a particular software package or website)?
          Absolutely - Howie talks a lot about creating links in Info Barrel articles and linking back to other Info Barrel articles.

          Also, you can write about anything as long as it's not spam, illegal or illicit. You can write how-to's out the hooyang and write product reviews if you want to, too. Just make sure it's not overly promotional, or they might frown upon it.
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        • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
          Originally Posted by John Henderson View Post

          While we're on the subject of linking, would it actually be beneficial to create links to your InfoBarrel article to improve its position on the SERPs and therefore improve your chances of making money from it?

          One more thing: Are there any limits to what an InfoBarrel article can be about? Is it okay to write about branded goods (e.g. a "how-to" guide for a particular software package or website)?
          John,

          Right now, I am focusing just about ALL my energy (besides posting on Warrior Forum) to seeking out and creating high quality backlinks to one single article.

          This article is ranked around number 300, in Google, for the keyword "SELF-EDITED OUT OF FORUM POST" even on a PR4 website (although, this rank DOES fluctuate occasionally).....

          To give you an idea of just how HUGE this is:

          This keyword, according to Market Samurai, get just shy of 5,000,000 average searches DAILY, worldwide.

          It's SEOC value is 2,640,000,000 (Essentially, the Competition...)

          It's SEOT value is above 2,000,000 (This is essentially what the website, in the first spot on Google, could expect to receive, everyday, in traffic).

          If I can get this anywhere on the front page, I can retire STRICTLY off of the Adsense Revenue share.

          Of course, there are a few other variables involved with getting in on the ground floor of such a young site. For instance, a site like Info Barrel HAD hundreds of black content "overview" articles that the owners needed filled. These topics, although blank, were still receiving tons of views as the website grew. All they needed were for people to claim them, and begin writing them. Noticing this early, while everyone sat back, I snagged up a bunch of one's I KNOW will be hot. My article "EDITED" now has in excess of 1,000 internal links/articles that all link back to my article.

          I could do nothing else, and this article will naturally get into the Top-100. Getting it into the Top-10 will be difficult, but possible.

          Please, do not underestimate the incredible value in getting in on the ground floor of a massively growing PR4 site. You can keep doing what 'everyone else' is doing, or you can diverge from the norm. THAT is where the big money will be made.

          So...yes, I would actually recommend setting up a spreadsheet and beginning a backlinking campaign, using other sites to direct traffic to wherever you deem the best place to direct traffic to. Once again, an unfortunate downside of alot of websites that have established themselves with high PR, is the fact that MANY writers have become complacent and conditioned by the fact that they can just write, and have their article rank high with little effort. For the most part, this is true....however, I'm confident that few REALLY understand how it works. Give me an article in a PR7/8 website, and I guarantee it is ranking high because of the collective search engine authority, and more oftentimes than not, the original writer didn't allocate very much time at all to creating backlinks.

          Know what this tells me?

          If I work hard enough, create enough backlinks (I use Market Samurai), I can oftentimes make my articles, on a PR4 site, outrank those on a PR7 site. I'm taking full advantage of people's complacency....

          "One more thing: Are there any limits to what an InfoBarrel article can be about? Is it okay to write about branded goods (e.g. a "how-to" guide for a particular software package or website)?"

          There ARE editorial guidelines, however, they are very clear and detailed. News-related articles aren't allowed, as well as duplicate content. Yes, Google debunked the duplicate content myth, however, some directories still like to implement controls to prevent it. Based on growth trends, these controls certainly aren't doing a BAD thing....

          A "how-to" guide, for something like that, would be well within their TOS.
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          • Profile picture of the author Rikki_Fawkes
            Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

            John,

            Right now, I am focusing just about ALL my energy (besides posting on Warrior Forum) to seeking out and creating high quality backlinks to one single article.

            This article is ranked around number 300, in Google, for the keyword "People" even on a PR4 website (although, this rank DOES fluctuate occasionally).....

            To give you an idea of just how HUGE this is:

            This keyword, according to Market Samurai, get just shy of 5,000,000 average searches DAILY, worldwide.

            It's SEOC value is 2,640,000,000 (Essentially, the Competition...)

            It's SEOT value is above 2,000,000 (This is essentially what the website, in the first spot on Google, could expect to receive, everyday, in traffic).

            If I can get this anywhere on the front page, I can retire STRICTLY off of the Adsense Revenue share.

            Of course, there are a few other variables involved with getting in on the ground floor of such a young site. For instance, a site like Info Barrel HAD hundreds of black content "overview" articles that the owners needed filled. These topics, although blank, were still receiving tons of views as the website grew. All they needed were for people to claim them, and begin writing them. Noticing this early, while everyone sat back, I snagged up a bunch of one's I KNOW will be hot. My article "People" now has in excess of 1,000 internal links/articles that all link back to my article.

            I could do nothing else, and this article will naturally get into the Top-100. Getting it into the Top-10 will be difficult, but possible.

            Please, do not underestimate the incredible value in getting in on the ground floor of a massively growing PR4 site. You can keep doing what 'everyone else' is doing, or you can diverge from the norm. THAT is where the big money will be made.

            So...yes, I would actually recommend setting up a spreadsheet and beginning a backlinking campaign, using other sites to direct traffic to wherever you deem the best place to direct traffic to. Once again, an unfortunate downside of alot of websites that have established themselves with high PR, is the fact that MANY writers have become complacent and conditioned by the fact that they can just write, and have their article rank high with little effort. For the most part, this is true....however, I'm confident that few REALLY understand how it works. Give me an article in a PR7/8 website, and I guarantee it is ranking high because of the collective search engine authority, and more oftentimes than not, the original writer didn't allocate very much time at all to creating backlinks.

            Know what this tells me?

            If I work hard enough, create enough backlinks (I use Market Samurai), I can oftentimes make my articles, on a PR4 site, outrank those on a PR7 site. I'm taking full advantage of people's complacency....

            "One more thing: Are there any limits to what an InfoBarrel article can be about? Is it okay to write about branded goods (e.g. a "how-to" guide for a particular software package or website)?"

            There ARE editorial guidelines, however, they are very clear and detailed. News-related articles aren't allowed, as well as duplicate content. Yes, Google debunked the duplicate content myth, however, some directories still like to implement controls to prevent it. Based on growth trends, these controls certainly aren't doing a BAD thing....

            A "how-to" guide, for something like that, would be well within their TOS.

            Sorry - forgot about the news thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
    That is 6.33 USD you did not have before the day began ...

    Go scale it!
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    • Profile picture of the author GoogleWarrior
      Originally Posted by Marhelper View Post

      That is 6.33 USD you did not have before the day began ...

      Go scale it!
      Ya...I am off to celebrate with this six dollars tonight! PARTY TIME!
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    LOL, I feel happy for you Your attitude is contagious. Keep it up
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  • Profile picture of the author imdreamsfly
    Hi. I was wondering if you've targeted your articles towards the correct keywords. You mentioned that some of your lenses don't get much traffic. Have you done your keyword research? Is the keyword phrase in the correct places in your article?
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  • Profile picture of the author GoogleWarrior
    Yes... I actually rank number one on the first page of google quite often... it is just that the keywords don't get big time traffic like "MAKE MONEY ONLINE" type keywords get. But... if I could find a way to get the keywords to stick at the top spot that is what I want.
    Because I have 5 keywords now that have been number 1 on google and are still close to those spots... I just need to do some more Document Sharing with links to these sites, bookmark them, and they will be #1 again.... However... it is a little time consuming.....
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  • Profile picture of the author GoogleWarrior
    OH YA - 23 posts on this Warrior Forum Post... NEW RECORD!
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  • Profile picture of the author seekyt
    I made $1,000 via AdSense on HubPages in the first 30-40 days I was a member - and maybe $4-5 of that actually came from my 15 or so Hubs.

    The trick is to use your URL tracker and bookmark/tweet every hub you can with your URL tracker inserted, use your Hubs as a selling point for your writing and community building abilities, and then offer to write guest posts on popular blogs and websites, directing traffic from those sites to your top revenue sharing site (i.e. "this is a guest post by Seekyt from 'blahblahblah.com'"). It worked for me, the gain was very short lived, but I proved it was possible.

    Another word of advice: most HubPages users are very stubborn and not willing to accept that you can be more successful than they are with 1/100th the content. They will question and attack you every step of the way. Do NOT try to sell yourself too much, or you will (rightfully) come under unwanted scrutiny. I learned this the hard way. Instead, make sure any advice you give to anyone on HubPages is reasonable advice. When I started giving advice on "How To Make $1,000 on HubPages" it was a S**t storm.
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      This is because they have a very high pre-established search engine authority. I do like HubPages for a variety of reasons, however, when speaking strictly about revenue share %, it does fall short of other sites. The best site has an optimal intersection between search engine authority and high revenue share. These are just among many other things one should consider when writing for a Web 2.0 property like HubPages or Squidoo. As mentioned before, there are alot of usages for these sites, and each has varying specific functionality that can be appealling dependent on what you are seeking to use the site for....

      Originally Posted by seekyt View Post

      I made $1,000 via AdSense on HubPages in the first 30-40 days I was a member - and maybe $4-5 of that actually came from my 15 or so Hubs.

      The trick is to use your URL tracker and bookmark/tweet every hub you can with your URL tracker inserted, use your Hubs as a selling point for your writing and community building abilities, and then offer to write guest posts on popular blogs and websites, directing traffic from those sites to your top revenue sharing site (i.e. "this is a guest post by Seekyt from 'blahblahblah.com'"). It worked for me, the gain was very short lived, but I proved it was possible.

      Another word of advice: most HubPages users are very stubborn and not willing to accept that you can be more successful than they are with 1/100th the content. They will question and attack you every step of the way. Do NOT try to sell yourself too much, or you will (rightfully) come under unwanted scrutiny. I learned this the hard way. Instead, make sure any advice you give to anyone on HubPages is reasonable advice. When I started giving advice on "How To Make $1,000 on HubPages" it was a S**t storm.
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  • Profile picture of the author khassandra
    Just continue what you're doing and in a few months you will surely get results. I'm a member of hubpages for 3 years now and I already earn monthly income from the articles I've made 2 years ago and those I've made after that. If we keep on writing, more income will surely come. I've earned a few from Squidoo but don't have much article yet. For me, my hubpages articles earn more.
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by khassandra View Post

      Just continue what you're doing and in a few months you will surely get results. I'm a member of hubpages for 3 years now and I already earn monthly income from the articles I've made 2 years ago and those I've made after that. If we keep on writing, more income will surely come. I've earned a few from Squidoo but don't have much article yet. For me, my hubpages articles earn more.
      "....I already earn monthly income from the articles I've made 2 years ago and those I've made after that...."

      This is the beauty of writing for lifetime residuals. Typically, as the site grows in popularity, so also does it's search engine authority, as well as, individual writer's overall potential to earn. Articles are found quicker and beat out even top ranked sites when they catapult off the authority of Web 2.0 properties.

      "If we keep on writing, more income will surely come."

      True...well, sort of. It's a bit cut-throat, but, people CAN certainly invade your space (i.e. take your 'market share'), target the same keywords, and get their articles ranked higher than yours. Products, like Market Samurai, do allow for this, if the user is willing to put out the time and effort to do the research.So many niches are so utterly saturated nowadays, that, sometimes it's literally hard to avoid.

      Even with a high PR/high authority site, you should STILL consider backlinking. On a PR4 site, I have been able to outrank articles, that have been hosted on PR6/7 sites, simply because I did the extra work to backlink. Unfortunately, one downside of sites like these is the fact that people have been conditioned to think that they can just submit content and have it automatically rank high. If you ever look at Market Samurai, you'll see that there are alot of other factors involved, as well.....I'd really recommend that product. If you are doing well on HubPages, had you used it, you could probably multiply your current earnings....
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    That'll get you one coffee at Starbucks. Not bad.
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  • Profile picture of the author lacraiger
    if you have that much success you should just create your own site. squidoo probably made more than you on your clicks...
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    Congratulations! Maybe you should look into monetizing your pages a different way to increase your profits.
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  • Profile picture of the author GoogleWarrior
    Thanks guys.. and especially thanks to Soldier, Rikki and Harmsworth and also BestIMtools. I am planning to start my own website soon... but not just yet... and I might just try a new way to monetize my Lenses (thanks for idea best IMtools) but... I HAVE over 10,000 views on my Hub Page Hubs but I havent made one cent from them. and yes... I do have the adsense working for Hubpages. What am I missing?
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    Just my opinion here (based on my Hubpages), but I'm not that impressed with the learning languages niche.

    It's quite easy to get ranking and traffic. However it's difficult to get people to buy stuff or click on Ads.

    Why? Well my theory is that anyone who has the time to learn a language has a lot of time on their hands. Maybe they don't work so don't have much cash to spare.

    So please don't put too much time and effort into a niche that may just be a waste of time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yin Ryu
    I earned a lowest possible amount on squidoo. i.e 0.05 and i have just 8 articles so far. Let's see i need to improve on traffic and backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillBeRich
    When you guys say 100-200 clicks, do you mean on links that you have on the pages? Or just views on your pages?
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    congs the first $ is hard to crack. You ow need to work and concentrate on what is making you some money.
    its a numbers game!
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    I got fed up with InfoBarrel as they wouldn't let me put links in the body content, which is so useful when building an online empire.

    My InfoBarrel AdSense earnings are also pretty poor compared to similar content on Hubpages. If I told you my Hubpages CTR in certain niches you would think I was kidding you. Yes so InfoBarrel might be a PR5 site one day, but by then Hubpages will probably be PR8.

    On top of that the Analytics integration doesn't work properly with my Adsense account , and their affiliate scheme is very miserly (2%? what's that all about? It's 10% on Hubpages!).
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    • Profile picture of the author Rikki_Fawkes
      Originally Posted by brettb View Post

      I got fed up with InfoBarrel as they wouldn't let me put links in the body content, which is so useful when building an online empire.

      My InfoBarrel AdSense earnings are also pretty poor compared to similar content on Hubpages. If I told you my Hubpages CTR in certain niches you would think I was kidding you. Yes so InfoBarrel might be a PR5 site one day, but by then Hubpages will probably be PR8.

      On top of that the Analytics integration doesn't work properly with my Adsense account , and their affiliate scheme is very miserly (2%? what's that all about? It's 10% on Hubpages!).
      That's odd - I made $1.09 the first day on the first Info Barrel article I submitted. How many articles have you written for Info Barrel? And the links - did you put them in the first paragraph? (that's a no-no there). And were they top level domain redirects? (also a no-no).

      And Info Barrel's 75-90% direct payout rate far surpasses Hubpages 60% (correct?) payout rate. So even if you get 10% of someone else's, you're still getting less than you might be getting at Info Barrel.

      I'm really glad to hear someone's had success with Hubpages, though. I really haven't had much traffic there compared with other directories.
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by brettb View Post

      I got fed up with InfoBarrel as they wouldn't let me put links in the body content, which is so useful when building an online empire.

      My InfoBarrel AdSense earnings are also pretty poor compared to similar content on Hubpages. If I told you my Hubpages CTR in certain niches you would think I was kidding you. Yes so InfoBarrel might be a PR5 site one day, but by then Hubpages will probably be PR8.

      On top of that the Analytics integration doesn't work properly with my Adsense account , and their affiliate scheme is very miserly (2%? what's that all about? It's 10% on Hubpages!).
      I think we need to be cautious, for the sake of this thread (and forum), that we not overly favor one platform over another. I did say, early on in this thread, that there are distinct advantages and disadvantages, to different platforms, dependent upon what one hopes to achieve and what elements of functionality they need to take advantage of.

      Personally, I find that Squidoo is GREAT at providing tools/modules help one effectively gauge reader sentiment about any particular topic. In a way, a degree of market research can actually be ton, and a lens tailored accordingly, if you utilize their poll module, and other modules, in the right way.

      "I got fed up with InfoBarrel as they wouldn't let me put links in the body content, which is so useful when building an online empire."

      In accordance with their TOS, this isn't entirely true. You ARE allowed to put links within your body content, however, there is a distinction that needs to be made: they CANNOT be direct call to action links, but rather contextual links. Yes, call-to-action links are arguably more effective, which is why alot of people gravitate to Ezine Articles. There is a delicately balance here among the functionality that is allowed AND the quality of a site. EVERYONE is ultimately impacted, believe it or not, if a site allows itself to deteriorate in quality. You may not see it reflected immediately in your own earnings, however, you will, when the site is slapped by Google, looses search engine authority/PR, and everyone's earnings are collectively/individually affected. It happens....which is why it is in a site's best interest to safeguard quality.

      "My InfoBarrel AdSense earnings are also pretty poor compared to similar content on Hubpages. If I told you my Hubpages CTR in certain niches you would think I was kidding you. Yes so InfoBarrel might be a PR5 site one day, but by then Hubpages will probably be PR8."

      In order to accurately comment here, not to sound like a jerk, but I'd need more specifics. By "certain niches" are you talking about 1 or 2 of your articles, out of 300 articles, that achieve a high CTR? What is the CTR? Right now, HubPages does afford a few more monetization methods, however, there are some criticisms there, as well. For instance, their treatment of Do-follow/No-follow links is criticized by some.

      Amongst the array of positive and negative comments about any site, one does have to understand that people form these opinion, usually, strictly based on what they see and experience in direct relation to their own article performances. One person, on any given site, may earn $1,000/month consistently, and if you talk to that person they will swear that it is a great site....however, the other 100,000+ people may not agree. Plus, what is in the best interest of a single user, may not always be in the best interest of the collective growth and viability of the site.

      People can hate Squidoo for tightening up it's reigns, however, is this adherence to quality necessarily a BAD thing? Well...it is for those who choose to market with garbage tactics and try to exploit any platform or system. Let's face it, wherever there is a huge aggregation of people, people are going to inherently try to exploit it for profit.

      (err...this is getting long....i'll stop now....)

      Yeah...so, let's keep this on topic lol
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by brettb View Post

      I got fed up with InfoBarrel as they wouldn't let me put links in the body content, which is so useful when building an online empire.

      My InfoBarrel AdSense earnings are also pretty poor compared to similar content on Hubpages. If I told you my Hubpages CTR in certain niches you would think I was kidding you. Yes so InfoBarrel might be a PR5 site one day, but by then Hubpages will probably be PR8.

      On top of that the Analytics integration doesn't work properly with my Adsense account , and their affiliate scheme is very miserly (2%? what's that all about? It's 10% on Hubpages!).
      Nice product you've got there (in your sig line), Brett. It looks familiar.

      P.s. You are underestimating the will and desire of ownership to maximize their own revenue, and how that directly benefits users, through the testing and placement of different advertisements. Recently, they have thrown another incentivization for longer articles into the pot, in that articles that are 500+ words or over now receive automatically placed skyscraper ads in the left side of the article.

      "their affiliate scheme is very miserly (2%? what's that all about? It's 10% on Hubpages!)."

      Yet, I earn 30% each month more than you in revenue share. (HubPage's 60%, compared to Info Barrel's 90%, which I achieve from 6 articles a month). Yes, Info Barrel has lower search engine authority and favor in Google, but they also haven't been around for as long as HubPages has.

      You are also missing a few key points here:

      1) Info Barrel's owners are masters of promotion. One of the owner's commands $10,000+/month just for his Social media consultation. If you don't think transparent, responsive and skilled management doesn't matter...you are wrong. They KNOW how to make content viral: (Ex: 10 Inspirational Stories from the Winter Olympics - Info Barrel)

      2) While writers write for these Web 2.0 sites, owners (should be) actively doing behind the scenes SEO work. I know of at least ONE seasonal keyword that they have had incredible success targeting, which returns 241,000,000+ results when queried in Google. There site WILL bring in hundreds of thousands of new visitors to their content, come Christmas time. Just watch.

      3) Plug the keywords "Info Barrel" and "Infobarrel" into Market Samurai. What do you see as far as organic searches. THAT is only the begin.

      The major point that you seem to be neglecting is the incredible value of catching growth trends early. I see you created a product about HubPages....with time, don't be surprised if HubPages will have to change or alter their revenue share arrangement just to stay competitive.

      "On top of that the Analytics integration doesn't work properly with my Adsense account"

      Did you email them? Mine is fine.

      "Yes so InfoBarrel might be a PR5 site one day, but by then Hubpages will probably be PR8."


      Not if people begin stripping down their content and placing it on Info Barrel. Don't think it's possible? Between myself, and friends, I have accountability of well over a few thousands articles that we completely deleted from eHow's database. People go where they are 1) responded to and made to feel like a member of a community 2) The site that offers them the most. Personally, I wouldn't put so much emphasis in the variance between referral offerings, especially when Info Barrel's revenue share absolutely crushes HubPages. Owners are always tweaking their site in order to maximize revenue.

      "My InfoBarrel AdSense earnings are also pretty poor compared to similar content on Hubpages."

      I'd have to do more detailed analysis to see why this is the case. Knowing search engines, and how they work, could be beneficial to you here. Why would you put similar content on Info Barrel if you know it doesn't work there? It's a given that, because the platform is young, it inherently has less search engine authority and favor. It's growth trends have been near exponential though, which is a huge indicator that those who begin submitting content now will stand to earn quite a bit not to long from now.

      What is your Info Barrel profile?

      ...and, while everyone says I'm crazy, I'm outsourcing the heck out of articles for Info Barrel. Hit up alexa, quantcast, and compete and do a bit of research regarding the trends that each Web 2.0 site is exhibiting.
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      • Profile picture of the author marco005
        I dont understand why any will make money on squidoo and hubpages and so on.

        Their are social sites, social sites its a fact,convert poor, many time lesser than organic traffic on your own site.

        Perhaps ist a little added income too with such sitesand its crucial. Such sites gives you not the 100% adsense payout or amazon comission payout.

        So when you promote your own site with this, so that squidoo reader come to your site, the adsense ctr or conversion rate will be 3 time lesser than from organic search users.

        I would it use only to promote my own website, also get a little bit backlinks from them, not many, so you have adsense on your site and you have many many social traffic, google penalize you, than so you not become 0,80 or 0,50 cent per clik, you become a 1/10 of them, 0,05 cent also, so you lost money with this.

        So when you make money on squidoo or hub with amazon or other affiliate products, than not any reader will click trough your site, they stay on squidoo and buy your affilite product, only a few user perhaps 0,3-0,5 conversion rate, that is only a tip of the big cake not more, so you split your income,thats only.

        marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author GoogleWarrior
    Great ideas. Can you give me some more great info on how to succeed as an IM and Make Money Online.
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  • Profile picture of the author hayden459
    I am really happy to hear about you, as you are doing lot of hard-work then it has to happen. I have not joined squidoo till now as i am not very good at article writing but after seeing many people doing this and also earning a good amount from it, i am also looking forward to join it.
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  • Profile picture of the author bloggerboys
    congratulation ..i think you be doing a good job,,
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  • Profile picture of the author shmeeko69
    Originally Posted by GoogleWarrior View Post

    So... after hours and hours, days and days, weeks and weeks, I am happy to say that I made $6.33 USD.

    Now... only if I could do this x One Million.

    Truthfully... I am about a day or two from giving up.

    Or I need some new plan/strategy to attack this IM thing.

    My niche is the TEACH ENGLISH OVERSEAS/ABROAD niche.
    I use Squidoo Lenses, Hubpages and Article Marketing / Document Sharing as my way of Attack.

    I get around 1000 clicks a month from my Squidoo Lenses
    And around 2000 clicks from my Hubpages Hubs...

    However.... I am not really seeing any results....

    Be a Cool Guy and Shed Your knowledge with a struggling wanna be IM and guide me to success...........................
    Squidoo is a great middle man for sending articles and the like to you lens & increses your ranking, as google lobves this website. It is a good learning curve & somewhere you can hone you creative side & typing skills.

    Don't give up, you seem to be doing the right things !

    Mark :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author rmolina88
    Congrats!

    That's $6.33 more than what I've made so far.
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  • Profile picture of the author MamaShell
    Originally Posted by GoogleWarrior View Post

    So... after hours and hours, days and days, weeks and weeks, I am happy to say that I made $6.33 USD.

    Now... only if I could do this x One Million.

    Truthfully... I am about a day or two from giving up.

    Or I need some new plan/strategy to attack this IM thing.

    My niche is the TEACH ENGLISH OVERSEAS/ABROAD niche.
    I use Squidoo Lenses, Hubpages and Article Marketing / Document Sharing as my way of Attack.

    I get around 1000 clicks a month from my Squidoo Lenses
    And around 2000 clicks from my Hubpages Hubs...

    However.... I am not really seeing any results....

    Be a Cool Guy and Shed Your knowledge with a struggling wanna be IM and guide me to success...........................
    WooHoo!!!!!!!!!!!! Congrats!

    Whatever you do, Don't give up! You have just made "some" money. So now your a believer! Take more action.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dalun
    keep it up

    but dont depend solely on squidoo for money
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  • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
    Originally Posted by socialbookmark View Post

    Why do you use unknown sites? I didn't know about InfoBarrel yet and i prefer using Hubpages or Squiddo as i can earn more by using them.
    I wish you the best.

    How are your earnings on Squidoo?
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  • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
    Originally Posted by GoogleWarrior View Post

    So... after hours and hours, days and days, weeks and weeks, I am happy to say that I made $6.33 USD.

    Truthfully... I am about a day or two from giving up.
    Congratulations! The first money is the hardest but it means you've done SOMETHING right. Why would you give up? You've crossed one of the toughest hurdles!! I'm a huge Squidoo fan and have a few tips to pass along at the bottom. First, some more encouragement....


    Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

    Yes!!!!!

    Learn -> Apply -> Profit -> Learn -> Apply -> Profit

    You've made some money right now, don't forget that. As little as it may seem, you have actually done more than most IM n00bs.

    Jay
    Jay has capsulized one of the most important points of becoming successful. You already did the cycle once, now do it again.

    Understand that you'd have to go through this cycle no matter which platform you chose - Squidoo, Hubpages, InfoBarrel, or your own site. Over and over you'll see people in this site explain that jumping from project to project can be a huge downfall. You've had some success on Squidoo so push it forward.

    Originally Posted by thefluffanutta View Post

    I'll echo this advice - take your $6.33 and build on it.

    Keep creating lenses, link related ones together, and generate backlinks to them all. As you build up your portfolio, and diversify your subjects, you will increase your monthly revenue.
    I started on Squidoo in Feb of last year and received my first check in May - 3 months after I started - for $13.15.

    I kept going. This month's check? $381.34 just from revenue sharing and Amazon modules. I've averaged $291/month Jan through July of this year from Squidoo.

    There are loads of people on this forum who do much better than I (that's why I come to this forum!) but I know that when I was starting out seeing real numbers helped me put things in perspective.

    Many of my lenses have my own Amazon affiliate links in them instead of the modules so there's additional income on top of that average $291. I use Shareasale and Commission Junction links in many lenses.

    One lens alone has earned over $1700 in affiliate revenue the past year outside of Squidoo's payment modules from just one vendor. You'd have a hard time telling which lens that was because it's not my highest traffic lens nor my highest rated lens - it's simply very targeted. As the fluffanutta implied, revenue sharing is just one of the income streams you have available to you from Squidoo so those averages don't tell the whole story.

    Skills important to success would be the same set of skills you'd need for any of these platforms. It's more important that you understand keyword research and selection, how to write quality content, SEO, traffic generation, analytics and conversion than anything else.

    The choice of platform has more to do with your skills and what you like to do than it has to do with which one is more successful. If you like to write, look for a platform that allows you to write without messing with HTML. If you like HTML and being visually creative, go with a platform that allows you to do that, etc.

    I love HTML and that was what first drew me to Squidoo - the flexibility to be creative about how a lens looked inside the modules. Squidoo also has less restrictive outbound link limits than Hubpages. If you become a Giant, you have even fewer restrictions - an incentive to stick it out.

    Is Squidoo appropriate for all niches? No. Is it better than having your own website? IMO, no. Is it a great way to learn and lead up to having your own sites? Absolutely.

    I now use Squidoo mostly for backlinks and traffic generation to my own sites. It is no longer my main source of IM income. I have 126 lenses that generate 65,000 visitors a month. Many of those lenses have page rank of PR3-PR5. I create maybe a lens or two a month at this point but the older ones just keep bringing in money. In fact, income for some lenses has grown as they've continued to age.

    Tips for generating income with Squidoo:

    Pick targeted, low comp, long-tail keywords if you're a beginner. Check the commerciality of the keyword by checking Adwords bids and looking for ads on the side of Google when you enter the phrase into Google's search bar. Really think about the keyword as a consumer. If you were typing the phrase into Google would it mean that you were looking to spend money on something?

    Learn how to analyze the competition of a keyword (if you don't already know). It will help you focus your efforts on lenses that have the best chance of success sooner rather than later.

    Use module titles and subtitles that are keyword rich. Not keyword "stuffing" - keyword "rich". If your lens is about Sock Puppets, you could have module titles like "How to Create a Sock Puppet", "Sock Puppet Patterns", "Sock Puppet Crafts for Kids", "Selling Sock Puppets for Profit", etc. Don't just give every module the same title. )

    Write a keyword rich intro sentence or two as this is often the description that shows up in Google for your lens.

    Use keyword rich alt tags for images.

    Add lots of relevant tags to your lens - this helps other Squidoo visitors find your lens through other lenses and works with some search engines, too.

    Use an obvious call to action - a hyperlink in larger font, background colors to offset a link, the big arrows or boxes.

    If you use Amazon modules fill out the product descriptions with more detail than the default information.

    Build backlinks to your lenses using keyword anchor text.

    Build a number of lenses in the same niche and link them together as the fluffanutta mentioned. Linked lenses work together nicely to gain more traffic.

    Add the rel="nofollow" tag to outbound links you add in your module content, including affiliate links.

    Use the SquidU community to get feedback. Follow the big lensmasters and learn from them. Study their lenses. Use Squidaholic to check traffic on lenses that look like good models to follow to see how much traffic they're generating.

    Physical product reviews and informational lenses (how to, etc.) have done well for me on Squidoo.

    Don't make short lenses with nothing new to give your visitor than what's already out there. Make the lens rich with content about your topic. IMO, words are a great tool for someone new to IM. Words can help bring visitors because the more you write about a topic the more you'll bring natural long-tailed search traffic.

    Don't be afraid to re-use HTML from a previous lens. Your visitors won't know or care and it can help you build lenses more quickly if you copy and paste pre-prepared HTML into new lenses.

    I think I've updated a handful of lenses over the past year. I do not keep them updated with fresh content to keep them where they are in Google. That would drive me crazy. If one lens is making relatively good money and I notice its slipped in rankings, I might update it with new content but that's about it. I spent way too much time babying them initially. Create the lens, promote it with a few articles and backlinks and go make another lens.

    Which all means, btw, GO MAKE ANOTHER LENS!
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  • Profile picture of the author tamiro1992
    hehe nice, it all adds up. 6.33 here, 6.33 there, u got urself almost 13 bucks
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  • Profile picture of the author eflo
    Congratulations on drawing your first blood on the internet!
    Don't knock your 6.33 - hell I was happy with my first 1.12 from Amazon.

    Project 3six5 Blog Archive Day 17 - Celebrate your successes

    YouTube - Project 3six5.ca - Day 17 - My first online dollar.!

    Keep at it, and you'll make it far!
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  • Profile picture of the author eflo
    ...if you're looking into different methods, I've embarked upon Facebook marketing. I just started one group today and am up to 100+ members already. Growth on facebook is fast, but I've noticed the com version rate is lower.

    Search "Canadian connectors" and you'll find me.

    Perhaps I'll make a new thread to update this experiment.
    Get good at what you're doing before jumping around too much though. My issue is lack of focus. So many good things to try, so few hours in the day.
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  • Profile picture of the author GoogleWarrior
    Now... I think that I should add some Clickbank Affiliate Products that go with my "TEACH ENGLISH NICHE."

    However... I know for a fact that they aren't that many. But, I also know that anybody who finds my Squidoo Lens is a highly targeted potential customer who has a deep interest in the TEACH ENGLISH BUSINESS.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hanz
    Originally Posted by GoogleWarrior View Post

    So... after hours and hours, days and days, weeks and weeks, I am happy to say that I made $6.33 USD.

    Now... only if I could do this x One Million.

    Truthfully... I am about a day or two from giving up.

    Or I need some new plan/strategy to attack this IM thing.

    My niche is the TEACH ENGLISH OVERSEAS/ABROAD niche.
    I use Squidoo Lenses, Hubpages and Article Marketing / Document Sharing as my way of Attack.

    I get around 1000 clicks a month from my Squidoo Lenses
    And around 2000 clicks from my Hubpages Hubs...

    However.... I am not really seeing any results....

    Be a Cool Guy and Shed Your knowledge with a struggling wanna be IM and guide me to success...........................
    A job at McDonalds pays a lot more and is less taxing on the brain. LOL! Anyway, good job!
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  • Profile picture of the author moscoleee
    I have posted some lenses yet no money has come out of it so please what do I do to tap in something? can I have a reply from you on how you did it I am waiting to hearing from you soonest
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  • Profile picture of the author blazr63
    I've had a few lenses on Squidoo which haven't generated any direct income; however, my own Amazon affiliate links within a consumer review page on Squidoo has given me some sales on amazon. The good thing about Squidoo is that their pages rank well but I think you need to market yourself outside of their limitations to make money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tonylee93
    The first thing I ahve to say to a fellow squid! is Congrats, this is just a start! most people really do give up and say that this content can be taken down or be used in the wrong way. When using squidoo everything rolls over, I totally recommend squidoo for a long term project

    Also like another warrior said!

    "Learn -> Apply -> Profit -> Learn -> Apply -> Profit"

    Thats a common rule of internet marketing!

    Rinse and Repeat over and over! So keep up the good work and in due time you`ll see a difference! Stick with it! My friend
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    • Profile picture of the author marco005
      @Tonylee93,

      is the linkedin traffic better, does he better convert with affiliate products or adsense (on my own site)?

      best wishes
      marco005
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      • Profile picture of the author LilBlackDress
        I find it majorly easy to make money with Squidoo. I use a criteria to drill down to pick laser targeted keywords that rise quickly to the top of Google. People click thru and buy.

        Also you can outsource lenses for a few dollars or make them yourself. I have done both and think the interface is easy to work with and fun.

        Now, I really think the bulk of someones efforts should be on sites they control, but for extra income or diversification, it can be a great little money maker.
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  • Profile picture of the author mediadeveloped
    Uh oh- $ 6.33! Ha, I'm kidding...you have to start somewhere, and you will quickly improve.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanmilligan
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    This is 100% serious.

    You made $6 from one squidoo lens? Why not make 100? Or make 3-5 a day for the next couple of months. You know how to make money just scale it up.

    But seriously, it's hard work. If you're not willing to put some work in then yes you should give up.

    It annoys me so much what this world is turning into. Everybody expects something for nothing.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hy,

    Does I get from squidoo or hub only a part of my commission amazon? I dont wont share a part of my commission, on my own site I have 100% commission.

    Squidoo has strong rules, damm,IM, dating, fitness and so on is not allowed.

    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author kislany
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hy,

      Does I get from squidoo or hub only a part of my commission amazon? I dont wont share a part of my commission, on my own site I have 100% commission.

      Squidoo has strong rules, damm,IM, dating, fitness and so on is not allowed.

      marco005
      You can use your own Amazon affiliate links on Squidoo and get all the commission, you don't have to share with Squidoo at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris-
    Without very strong sales copy, what you are doing is going to keep getting the extremely small results you are getting. Strong sales copy either costs a LOT of money (with no guarantees) or the right personality plus a lot of learning.

    My suggestion would be to change to something that fits your existing skills. If you have a massive ego and can persuade anyone to do anything, then you will already be writing amazing sales copy and you will already be making a fortune. But if that's not happening, then I suggest being extremely honest about what you CAN do already, and finding a method which fits that.

    Many methods (such as ClickBank, selling Ebooks, etc.) require strong sales copy, but there are also plenty that don't . . . Amazon affiliate work can be done very profitably using honesty rather than hype (see my Sig for one Amazon method you can learn for free, although there are plent of others around here too).

    Chris
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