Survey: Clickbank vs. Instant Paypal Commissions

14 years ago

How are chargebacks handled with Instant PayPal Commissions?

What kind of reporting is available with IPC, such as Tracking ID's; with ClickBank we can even get a report of clicks (not just sales) by tracking ID (TID)?

Oh, BTW, how many people have had PayPal suddenly lock their account with lots of money in it (I've read of a few occurrences)? Has CB ever done that?

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Jesus Perez

14 years ago

Originally Posted by PCRoger

How are chargebacks handled with Instant PayPal Commissions?

From what I understand the affiliate is directly responsible for the Chargeback/Refund (normal Paypal operating procedure). The Rapid Action Profits script takes note when one has been issued and no longer counts that sale in the rotation. If the affiliate doesn't refund, the vendor can refund and remove a sale from the affiliate's rotation. Not sure about the $7DSS. It's not as advanced.

Originally Posted by PCRoger

What kind of reporting is available with IPC, such as Tracking ID's; with ClickBank we can even get a report of clicks (not just sales) by tracking ID (TID)?

RAP has this planned for v3.2.

Originally Posted by PCRoger

Oh, BTW, how many people have had PayPal suddenly lock their account with lots of money in it (I've read of a few occurrences)? Has CB ever done that?

True...but most get it immediately back by faxing some documents. Besides, Clickbank could also ban you. So they're both capable of cutting you off.

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Kevin_Hutto

14 years ago

Originally Posted by BlueSquares

True...but most get it immediately back by faxing some documents.

Thats not true... I had paypal shut us down and hold $58k for six months... and they wouldnt allow us access to the account to handle disputes or problems so they all just got taken out as refunds or chargebacks... and before you get any ideas, there was nothing fishy going on in the account, we just added it as a payment option along with our merchant account to our shopping cart and it took our sales on paypal up from about 5k a month to 60k a month... we let them know in advance, etc... but they just locked the account one day and we were done. So, no i am not in favor of anything to do with paypal as a merchant.

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MilesT

14 years ago

Kevin, so I'm assuming you eventually got control of the account again? If so then how long did that take and, ultimately, what was PayPal's reasoning behind the lock?

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Kevin_Hutto

14 years ago

Originally Posted by MilesT

Kevin, so I'm assuming you eventually got control of the account again? If so then how long did that take and, ultimately, what was PayPal's reasoning behind the lock?

I got the money back in 6 months to the day... minus a bunch of "refunds" they claimed that they gave but never verified with me as I was locked out... So, once I got my money I was done with paypal. Now, I can take paypal because of CB, but I dont even have an account. I already had a merchant account to begin with and was just adding paypal as i know that a lot of people like to pay with it. They never gave me a reason. They just said that they "randomly chose my account for review"... Its BS... They just saw that my account spiked up and were uncomfortable with the volume. Bottom line, I had no control and no recourse so I am done with PP.

If you google it, you can find that this happens quite a bit.

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bretski

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin_Hutto

I got the money back in 6 months to the day... minus a bunch of "refunds" they claimed that they gave but never verified with me as I was locked out... So, once I got my money I was done with paypal. Now, I can take paypal because of CB, but I dont even have an account. I already had a merchant account to begin with and was just adding paypal as i know that a lot of people like to pay with it. They never gave me a reason. They just said that they "randomly chose my account for review"... Its BS... They just saw that my account spiked up and were uncomfortable with the volume. Bottom line, I had no control and no recourse so I am done with PP.

If you google it, you can find that this happens quite a bit.

I can't believe that I had to scroll all the way to the bottom of this post to find someone that is scared of losing money to Paypal...and usually it's not $20 or so. Honestly, this is why I chose CB.

My checks go direct deposit and I get paid weekly....and even when I got paper checks the bank cleared the checks as if they were payroll checks so I've got no complaints.

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Kevin Riley 14 years ago

I must refrain from voting until you add a "Both" to the options. For me, it's not an "either or" situation. I like to keep diversified. Yes, it's nice to get those instant commissions, but it's also nice to get a fat cheque in the mail. And, by spreading it out, I don't have all my eggs in one basket.
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Jesus Perez

14 years ago

Originally Posted by SeanyG

What kind of a list did you get this response from?

Internet marketing? Biz op? PLR?

I'm in the IM Niche, Sean.

Originally Posted by SageSound

Why the heck would customers care, or even know WHAT method is being used to pay affiliates?

-David

My customers are affiliates. As a matter of fact, they're my best affiliates.

Originally Posted by Kevin_Hutto

Thats not true... I had paypal shut us down and hold $58k for six months... and they wouldnt allow us access to the account to handle disputes or problems so they all just got taken out as refunds or chargebacks... and before you get any ideas, there was nothing fishy going on in the account, we just added it as a payment option along with our merchant account to our shopping cart and it took our sales on paypal up from about 5k a month to 60k a month... we let them know in advance, etc... but they just locked the account one day and we were done. So, no i am not in favor of anything to do with paypal as a merchant.

Sorry to hear this happened to you. There definitely comes a time to walk away from Paypal and get a merchant account. If I may ask, what niche was it?

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Silas Hart

14 years ago

Originally Posted by PCRoger

How are chargebacks handled with Instant PayPal Commissions?

What kind of reporting is available with IPC, such as Tracking ID's; with ClickBank we can even get a report of clicks (not just sales) by tracking ID (TID)?

Oh, BTW, how many people have had PayPal suddenly lock their account with lots of money in it (I've read of a few occurrences)? Has CB ever done that?

Regards,
PCRoger.

I personally hold the liabilities of chargebacks. My affiliates who work hard for their money, and work hard to promote my products shouldn't have to be burdened with such things. Not to mention, it can become troublesome for them if they take all of the money out of the paypal account and then transfer it to their bank account for their bills or whatever they may need the money for... then have a customer do a chargeback which leaves PayPal in a negative balance, or worse, PayPal tries to withdraw funds from their bank and of course, if the money is already put towards bills, their account might be low on funds. Which of course, leaves a messy situation even messier. It's much easier for me to hold a reserve amount of money for chargeback situations which still allows me to pay my affiliates instantly.

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SageSound

14 years ago

Originally Posted by FaJeeb

Originally Posted by PCRoger
How are chargebacks handled with Instant PayPal Commissions?

I personally hold the liabilities of chargebacks.

You need to distinguish between "refunds" and "chargebacks".

If someone requests a refund using something like RAP, the person who got the commission is obligated to issue the refund. This may not be the person who referred the sale OR the vendor! It could be an Equity Partner or a 2nd-tier reseller. (And this list will grow as V3.2 is released!)

If they don't, then the vendor should issue the refund.

However, "chargebacks" are another animal entirely.

A few months ago I got a very curious purchase on a product that hasn't had any sales in over a year. Six hours later I got another purchase. Both were through the same affiliate. I got one payment, and the affiliate got a payment.

It looked fishy and I called PayPal, and ended up talking to someone in their Security area. He told me that this pattern looked like someone stole a credit card and then sent the CCard data to someone overseas. He said it's common for them to run a "test sale" to see if the card is valid or if it has been reported stolen yet. He said to expect a chargeback from the credit card company.

Sure enough, within a day, I got a chargeback for the amount I was paid, and the affiliate got one for the amount he was paid.

In cases of fraudulent credit card use, whomever got the payment will probably get a chargeback. There's nothing the vendor can do about it. They come without notice, and fraudulent uses really have no appeal.

However, I've had someone buy something, sign up for the membership, confirm that and the autoresponder via email, and a week later I got a chargeback. To file a chargeback, you have to file an affidavit stating that either your card was lost or stolen, or you did not authorize the charge, or something else. In this case, the customer claimed they didn't authorize the charge. Paypal said there wasn't anything they can do, so I demanded to file a fraudulent claim report against the credit card holder. They said I couldn't do that, and I said I have PROOF that they DID authorize the charge -- they used their same email account to confirm not one but TWO emails AFTER making the purchase!

A week later, the chargeback was canceled, the funds were put back into my account, and the issue was dropped.

The moral of the story is you don't blindly have to accept what you're told with these guys all the time, because sometimes they're wrong.

-David

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VaultBoss 14 years ago

I have voted Instant Commissions.

There are many reasons, but as stated before, I have a supplementary one - I'm not in the US.

People all over the world become more and more aware they can make good money online; while the US still holds a strong position in the total amount of people actively using the Internet (meaning they also BUY/Sell things...) there are also more and more people like me joining this everyday.

I my experience... I managed to get my first CB check cleared after thoroughly searching for a bank with acceptable commissions (the first one I asked were charging 1%, BUT no less than €25 ... approx $32 when I wrote this). With many of them, my first check of approx $300 would have been cleared with a charge of about 10%

This wouldn't be an uncommon situation, especially for new IMers who wouldn't have those big fat sums sent to them when they start.

Another issue I had was the fact that in my case, promoting from CB especially products in the IM niche, most of my clients were paying with PayPal - maybe this wouldn't matter so much in other niches, though...

So I had a hard time to manage to get a few customers to pay with a CC in order to meet CB's requirements for issueing the first check.

On the contrary, I had no issues with PayPal.

Even when they frozen my account (suspecting some fraudulent activity when I tried to login from a different IP but failed to input the correct password - yeah, I know... lame, LOL) I still haven't any problems with selling things to my customers directly (my own products) or as an affiliate.

...And I cleared that situation pretty easy, by sending them an ID by fax, that was all.

So, for people outside the US like me, I think the option is more than clear...

It is also my understanding that even for US based people it is still better to use one of these two solutions, at least because there will be no IRS hassles with reporting sales over $600, etc... In any case, I think both CB and RAP would take care of this in their own different ways...
BUT
the money being sent directly (INSTANTLY) to PayPal should be by far THE best option, I think... he, he...

As James Penn up there said, I am also choosing to promote 100% commission products.
This is NOT possible with CB though, where they pay 75% at max.

- One more benefit of choosing the Instant Payment Solution over CB, IMHO.

Last thing I would add is that, during my almost 3 years in IM by now, I almost never had refund requests for RAP driven sales (only one as I recall) while CB seems to be notorious for its high refund rates...

To talk only about my experience, I had 3 refunds I think, but then again, I promoted very, very few CB products as compared with the ones in RAP, so the incurrence rate would be - by far - much higher.

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Jacer

14 years ago

There is just something magical about those emails, "Notification of Payment Received From..." especially when they come through my phone while out having fun.

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PCRoger

14 years ago

Thanks for the replies on each question.

@Jacer - Yes, nothing like having your inbox overflow with payment notifications!

I know Rob Howard was touting RAP (I'm pretty sure that's the one) a while back and I have respect for his opinions.

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alextsui

14 years ago

Given a choice between these two, I think all international affiliates will choose Instant Paypal Commissions.

Clickbank can only send out a check to foreign affiliates. It's a big hassle to get the check cleared through my banking system here. It incurs quite a bit of cost and takes about 1 whole month just to see the money in my account.

As for Paypal, now that it's linked to our banking systems I can just withdraw and see the money in my account in just 2 days (no extra fees if withdrawing above a certain amount).

It's a no-brainer!

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heybert00 14 years ago

What is Instant Paypal Commisions?
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- Sid Hale 14 years ago
  
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  Originally Posted by heybert00
  
  What is Instant Paypal Commisions?
  
  Exactly what it says. No waiting for the merchant to pay your commissions.
  
  Not 6 weeks. Not a month. Not even two weeks.
  
  The customer pays directly into your Paypal account for x% of your sales. If the commission rate is 50%, you get paid directly for every 2nd sale. If it's 75%, you get paid directly for 3 out of every 4 sales. Instead of getting a percentage of each sale, you get the full selling price for x% of your total referrals that turn into a sale.
  
  It's a great model for affiliates, because the merchant never lays a hand on that money. It doesn't go into his/her Paypal account, waiting until they decide to do payouts.
  
  It's a great model for merchants, because it makes it much easier to find affiliates, and those affiliates promote your products more actively, simply because they KNOW they're going to get paid - instantly. Instead of mailing to their lists today, and waiting for payment - they mail today, and watch the money come into their Paypal accounts today.
  
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JamesPenn

14 years ago

I prefer to promote instant commission products - usually only 100% commissions though.

The only downside is that there aren't that many products to promote in the niches I'm in. In the weight loss market I can't seem to find a good product, with a good salespage and a good commission pay-out.

That's why I stick to promoting CB products in the weight loss market. (BTW, if you can direct me to a good instant commission weight loss product then let me know!)

Some advantages of promoting instant commission products:

- cash can be recycled quicker in your business
- fewer refunds
- no commission theft
- many, many more that I can't think of right now

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globalpro

14 years ago

I think Blue Squares pretty well summed up all the benefits of the 'instant payout' scheme. Affiliates love instant cash and vendors don't have to deal with monthly payments of commissions or the headaches of tax time.

Since RAP has been out, the refund issue hasn't been a problem. Almost all affiliates are glad to accommodate, as they run the risk of being banned from future sales.

@heybert00 - instant PayPal commissions mean you get paid right away for sales you make, based on the commission the vendor is paying

@James - not sure if this helps, but RAP Bank has some similar products here:

Health and FitnessbyRAP Bank

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vivyrelax

14 years ago

Definitely I prefer instant paypal Commissions. Each month, when I've to deposite a check from CB, my bank freeze it for 20 days minimum ! But I can receive my money from paypal directly in my business bank account without any delay except the 4 to 5 days of transfer.

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SageSound

14 years ago

Originally Posted by BlueSquares

2 days ago, I emailed my list of affiliates and customers. I wanted to know if they preferred Clickbank or Instant Paypal commissions.
. . .
Today, I have solid numbers from my list.

90% of my affiliates said they prefer Instant Paypal Commissions.
65% of my customers said they prefer Instant Paypal Commissions.

Why the heck would customers care, or even know WHAT method is being used to pay affiliates?

Most folks don't realize that RAP can be configured to pay NO instant commissions yet still track affiliate sales, allowing the vendor to send a payment out later on, just like other affiliate programs. This is popular for more expensive products.

So for someone who's "old school" and really prefers to fill up their PayPal account with fat commissions (and risk having it ALL frozen for whatever reason), cut checks to affiliates 60-90 days later, collect W-4's from resellers and file 1099's at the end of the year, RAP can STILL be used to accomplish that.

BTW, for those who use RAP to pay affiliates directly, even if PayPal DOES freeze your (the vendor's) account for some reason, that does not affect your resellers from being paid in any way! A lot of folks don't realize this.

Having YOUR account frozen only affects YOUR ability to send money. Since RAP allows customers to pay resellers directly, YOUR account is out-of-the-loop. The consequence of this is that less money is coming into your account, so there's less likelihood it'll get frozen. (That's what people say, anyway. I've never had a problem with PayPal.)

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wortell

14 years ago

is always my choice for two main reasons

* "EASE" for both CUSTOMER (to pay instantly) / Merchant (to receive instant payments)

* "NO HASSLE" affiliate payouts... no 1099s, no mass-pay spreadsheet hoping to get it completely right, with the commas, etc... I know what's mine is mine, and what's theirs is ... well - they've already got it!

In short - those are and continue to be my main reasons.

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Toots

14 years ago

Instant paypal is my choice as it means less hassles and more time I can spend making the money in my internet business.

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Mohammad Afaq

14 years ago

Clickbank is my main source of income but just like Jaser said, there is something special about those Payment Received emails

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lmfoong

14 years ago

Hi
I preferred Paypal as it is the most convenient way for me to cash out from my account in Malaysia.
For CB check, it takes about 3 weeks for my local bank to clear a U.S. Check. Although there is an option to direct credit to international bank account, include Singapore. Unfortunately, Malaysia is not included in the Banker's list ( I wonder why )

BTW, Paypal has allowed money transfer direct to Malaysia Bank Account

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Blade Runner 77

14 years ago

I too am on the PayPal band wagon, and yes, I've had my funds taken for 6 months, for something not even financially related.

Any suggestions on where I can locate offers that pay out with paypal?

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14 years ago

Hi,

Originally Posted by Blade Runner 88

I too am on the PayPal band wagon, and yes, I've had my funds taken for 6 months, for something not even financially related.

Any suggestions on where I can locate offers that pay out with paypal?

thanks BR88

There is a growing marketplace for instant commission products at RAP Bank (RAP Bank*Instant Commissions Vault) and membership is free.

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SeanyG

14 years ago

Where can I find more info about the paypal affiliate program?

I am just launching a membership site and was getting ready to put it on Clickbank. This Paypal Instant Commissions options sounds very appealing!

2 questions:

- What is RAP!?!?!

- Does Paypal have an API that links up with Wordpress membership scripts like Wishlist Member?

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SageSound 14 years ago

Originally Posted by SeanyG

Where can I find more info about the paypal affiliate program?

PayPal's affiliate program is for promoting PayPal. RAP is used to promote YOUR product and use PayPal to pay affiliates instantly.

Originally Posted by SeanyG

I am just launching a membership site and was getting ready to put it on Clickbank. This Paypal Instant Commissions options sounds very appealing!

If you're "just launching" your site and it's going to be on Clickbank, then you're going to be stuck getting paid by Clickbank.

RAP has about a half-dozen different addons for different membership solutions. Clickbank is not one of them.

Originally Posted by SeanyG

2 questions:

- What is RAP!?!?!

- Does Paypal have an API that links up with Wordpress membership scripts like Wishlist Member?

Thanks in advance!

PayPal does have an API. That's not really the question you want to be asking.

This thread is asking about Clickbank vs. Instant PayPal commissions. RAP pays instantly. Clickbank doesn't. I don't know about Wishlist or the other scripts being mentioned. I just use RAP with the membership addons it has. There's also one that lets you manage memberships within Wordpress.

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  I think you'll find more marketers (who have experience on the sales side) will like instant commission rather than clickbank.
  
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SeanyG

14 years ago

From the research I've done RAP sounds like a great beginner solution. For a bigger business though I've been recommended to avoid it due to the reputation that RAP is for $37 ebooks and not high quality products.

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Sid Hale

14 years ago

I don't know who your

source is...
but RAP itself is sold, using RAP to control the sales, track commissions, manage back end sales, etc.

Originally Posted by SeanyG

From the research I've done RAP sounds like a great beginner solution. For a bigger business though I've been recommended to avoid it due to the reputation that RAP is for $37 ebooks and not high quality products.

I, personally, know of products being sold every day in the $97 - $347 price range, using RAP to control everything. Rapid Action Profits, itself, is a $197 product - so that alone, blows the $37 ebook theory.

Heck - there are RAP Add Ons that sell for much more than your source's $37 price tag, and they are all sold using Rapid Action Profits.

There are physical products being sold with RAP and the RAP Kunaki Add On, and there are people selling their Wishlist Member, and MemberWing memberships using RAP as the front end.

I don't know where you got your input, but I think you need a better source for your "research".

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SeanyG

14 years ago

What kind of a list did you get this response from?

Internet marketing? Biz op? PLR?

Originally Posted by BlueSquares

2 days ago, I emailed my list of affiliates and customers. I wanted to know if they preferred Clickbank or Instant Paypal commissions (via RAP or $7DS).

The reason I'm focusing on these 2 solutions is simple. Easy tax time filing and affiliate payments. I don't want to run my own affiliate system where I send out payments and collect 1099's. I'm sure others don't, either.

Today, I have solid numbers from my list.

90% of my affiliates said they prefer Instant Paypal Commissions.
65% of my customers said they prefer Instant Paypal Commissions.

Are the times a'changing?

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Jayme43

14 years ago

Instant Paypal Commissions. . .
Got my money after 3 to 5 days after somebody purchase my product. . .

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talfighel

14 years ago

Let me put it like this....

Getting a notification from PayPal saying:

Notification of Payment Received is a nice feeling when you get it over and over again but the nicer thing is that when you sell a product on clickbank that has recurring commission and you get paid the ONE time fee and also the monthly fee of let's say $25-$50 every month sale-RB, the feeling of that is great.

See you can sell stuff and get commissions on PayPal, but when you focus on membership sites that pay you every month on complete auto-pilot, it is a very good feeling.

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Sid Hale

14 years ago

Hi Tal,

Originally Posted by talfighel

Let me put it like this....

Getting a notification from PayPal saying:

Notification of Payment Received is a nice feeling when you get it over and over again but the nicer thing is that when you sell a product on clickbank that has recurring commission and you get paid the ONE time fee and also the monthly fee of let's say $25-$50 every month sale-RB, the feeling of that is great.

See you can sell stuff and get commissions on PayPal, but when you focus on membership sites that pay you every month on complete auto-pilot, it is a very good feeling.

Tal

That feeling is even better when the membership you are promoting is RAP-Driven, and those monthly commissions go instantly to your Paypal account.

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rondo

14 years ago

PaySpree.com - The Instant Commission Affiliate Marketing Network is another option.

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Fairwar

14 years ago

Hello,
I voted Instant Paypal, I mean everyone likes instant everything. Nobody wants to wait anyway. Plus you would find more people interesting in buying your product if you have paypal available instead of clickbank. However if you have clickbank option too if it would be great. Of course, there are also people who likes clickbank.

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SageSound

14 years ago

Well, the Good News is ... it's not an Either / Or question!

You can use BOTH!

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Jesus Perez

14 years ago

Originally Posted by SageSound

Well, the Good News is ... it's not an Either / Or question!

You can use BOTH!

-David

David, how would you setup RAP for a site that's already established with Clickbank?

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Sid Hale

14 years ago

Hi Jesus,

Originally Posted by BlueSquares

David, how would you setup RAP for a site that's already established with Clickbank?

Based on the results of your surveys (the one above, but more importantly the survey you sent to your own lists), I would be scrambling to set it up on RAP, and then contact any CB affiliate who has promoted your product in the past to let them know that they can sign up with you and earn instant commissions.

You do have the ability to contact them, don't you? They're your bread and butter (or could be if you can promote to them).

Whether you keep it listed on CB, or not, is your call - but w/ RAP, it's not just the affiliates who get instant payments. The more of them that join your affiliate program, the less you have to wait for Clickbank to pay you - for sales of YOUR product.

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Jesus Perez

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Sid Hale

Hi Jesus,

Based on the results of your surveys (the one above, but more importantly the survey you sent to your own lists), I would be scrambling to set it up on RAP, and then contact any CB affiliate who has promoted your product in the past to let them know that they can sign up with you and earn instant commissions.

You do have the ability to contact them, don't you? They're your bread and butter (or could be if you can promote to them).

Whether you keep it listed on CB, or not, is your call - but w/ RAP, it's not just the affiliates who get instant payments. The more of them that join your affiliate program, the less you have to wait for Clickbank to pay you - for sales of YOUR product.

No kidding, Sid. The results up top are interesting. I have my affiliate's emails so I'm ok. I'm more worried about the technical shift. Gotta RTFM and check your forums a bit more to make sure it goes smoothly.

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SageSound

14 years ago

I'd set up RAP and adapt the sales page from the Clickbank page to work with RAP. The RAP product folder could be in a folder on the same domain, or on another similar domain. The sales page could be just about anywhere. Lots of options.

-David

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Cataclysm1987

14 years ago

I have to side with the instant paypal on this one, obviously. I mean, who wants to wait 2 weeks for your money when you can have it now

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And it is truly magical getting it instantly. I got my first instant commission this morning, and it made my day! To this and many more!

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SeanyG

14 years ago

Bluesquares!

Thanks for the original poll results from your affiliates / customers and forr posting this poll here.

Its becoming clear to me that instant commissions are the future.

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John Redfox

14 years ago

Instant PayPal commissions is most definitely the future. Sitting and waiting for checks is tiring and is getting to be the thing of the past.

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Richnana

14 years ago

For individuals just starting out, PayPal is a Godsend. They need their money right now. Clickbank is great but in the initial stage of being their affiliate, you have to jump through too many hoops. Everyone loves instant gratification. I was surprised to read about the RAP application and instantly signed up. What a great program.

Yep, we want out money right now TODAY!. thanks for the poll and the information

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iSoftware 14 years ago

Hi All,
I'd just like to chime in here and say one thing. I had a question or two and was able to connect with the developer Bill over skype.

One thing I can say is that having more personal access to someone running a platform REALLY makes a difference.

Also, the skeptic in me says that Clickbank is making some money off of the "float"...keeping all those commissions as "overnight paper" (financial term) and making money off of it...

Anyway that's beside the point. I think the ability to offer instant commission gives new or smaller vendors an ability to compete for the best affiliates who might be attracted to those larger CPA networks.

It's great that someone developed this solution and his level of attentiveness says he and his product will be around for a long time.

I think the RAP Bank marketplace is going to be around for a while and I am personally going to be telling others -especially those who want to LEARN WHY THEY EARN - about it.

Also, talk about real market data! If you are able to get paid instantly from promoting an offer, it's far easier and faster to see which offer produces the highest roi quickest - nothing is like that paypal "you've got a payment" email to gauge if something's working or not!!
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Super Affiliate

14 years ago

Hmm... it's very hard to decide which one. With CB, they make it so easy to for buyers to get refunds but I love to receive checks in the mails. With PP, you need to go through many days of frustration when someone asks for refunds when they are not entitled to (since money back guarantee was not offered), I love to receive email notification whenever somebody buys something.

I'll have to say "both" for me as well. : )

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Tomwood

14 years ago

Instant commission would be my choice, I not surprised with the results of your survey

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sellingonline

14 years ago

Instant Commissions are my favourite too. Especially also considering this:

I lost $70 overall on "dormant account fees" with clickbank and they "are not able to refund them" (which, in real terms, for me, translates to "we don't want to give it back, it's easy money for us" or why wouldn't they be "ABLE" to pay back those "funny fees"? are they not in control of their own money? ... yeah, sarcastic I know, but that was the answer I got - I would never do that to our affiliates, it's "legal stealing", really, isn't it?)

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