A Quick Way to Put $1,000 into Your Paypal Account

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Hi all, just wanted to let you know on a 'test strategy' I did that got me a client paying $1,000 for about 2 hours of work (this includes getting the client and the execution of the work)

1. I noticed while doing some google searches that someone had page 1 ranking for a search term and it was a wordpress blog NOT hosted on their own domain - it was on wordpress (e.g. "thesearchterm.wordpress.com")

2. I emailed the owner of the wordpress blog 2 brief paragraphs saying basically:

- you have a nice site, ranking well on google page 1 except you have a major risk exposed to your business. Wordpress does not like companies hosting blogs on wordpress that are commercial and whether it is today, tomorrow, or in the near future, you are exposed to wordpress simply deleting your blog that must have taken a fair bit of energy to create. It happened to me once and cost me some money as I was ranking on google page 1 in number 1 position.

If you are interested, I can help you eliminate any risk of you losing your blog for a fee of $1,000. That would involve transferring it completely to your own hosted domain, you have full control now in the future and no one can then delete your blog!

Everything will be the same and as an added benefit, you can get better search engine optimization with added plug ins and I can also put an RSS feed onto your blog.

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Now I know the above paragraphs are not 'ad copy' optimized - nevertheless, it worked,
1.The prospect said yes
2. I sent the company an invoice via paypal functionality
3. $1,000 came into my account and I got the info to log into the wordpress blog hosted on wordpress.

4. I spent 15 minutes on the phone helping him with a domain name to use.
5. He set up a namecheap acct. and a hosting acct. at dreamhost
6. I got the access info
7. I went over to scriptlance, posted a job description to transfer the existing wordpress hosted blog over to own hosted WP blog (including all the comments as his blog had a lot of user comments)
8. Cost of scriptlance resource- $80

Hmmm...2 hours of my time, net profit of $920...

Anyhow, hope it helps fire up some ideas to all of you and feel free to test out the fee you charge as one thing that is interesting, is I now am getting other work from that company so the continuity is an added benefit.
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  • Profile picture of the author JJOrana
    nice one miaroman
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  • Profile picture of the author mario2001
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    That is great.

    Thank you for sharing.


    Mario
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  • Profile picture of the author Maria Gudelis
    Glad it brought value to you!

    One thing I forgot to mention - be wary of the time wasters...sometimes some folks just want free consulting from you so limit the conversation to 15 minutes or so... (I learned that the hard way )
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    • Profile picture of the author kumar
      Originally Posted by miaroman View Post

      Glad it brought value to you!

      One thing I forgot to mention - be wary of the time wasters...sometimes some folks just want free consulting from you so limit the conversation to 15 minutes or so... (I learned that the hard way )
      That's just what I was wondering! What if they took out a 'lot' of info from you, thank you and then do it themselves! Would this work for free blogger sites too, as in does google too hate companies who are using their free blogs for commercial activites?

      Thanks!
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      • Profile picture of the author Maria Gudelis
        Hey Kumar - yes it would work for free blogger sites too...all are dicey to use for 'long-term" as I've known a $30k per month affiliate star lose some precious blogspots that were making some good $$$ - he hasn't touched a 'free hosted blog since!' - and he was one of my first mentors in IM...

        another added 'value' pitch you could use is that they can't build up any asset value in a blogger blog or wordpress hosted blog as if they had it hosted on their own domain...then they can sell it like a real piece of virtual real estate...monopoly park place here we come!

        I've personally have not seen a blogspot get taken down as fast as a wordpress hosted blog...and I've even tried with google to get a blogspot taken down myself for crazy slander of basically every famous female out there...that persons blogspot ranks on google page 1 for many names...with oodles of backlinks and strong PR...talk about reputation slander!

        Originally Posted by kumar View Post

        That's just what I was wondering! What if they took out a 'lot' of info from you, thank you and then do it themselves! Would this work for free blogger sites too, as in does google too hate companies who are using their free blogs for commercial activites?

        Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Cash37
    Do you have a company name, or just sent a personal email?
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    • Profile picture of the author Maria Gudelis
      Hi there - u can just send a pm - I have a few company names/entities...

      cheers, M

      Originally Posted by Cash37 View Post

      Do you have a company name, or just sent a personal email?
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      • Profile picture of the author jan roos
        That is a really good idea, Thanks for sharing.

        One question though, Since I have noi experience in transferring a free blog to a blog on my own domain and hosting. How easy is this to do and did you outsource the whole process and all you needed was his free blog log in details and walking him through buying a domain and hosting and giving you the login details for that?

        If it was that simple then I take my hat off for you my friend

        Cheers
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        • Profile picture of the author Maria Gudelis
          Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

          That is a really good idea, Thanks for sharing.

          One question though, Since I have noi experience in transferring a free blog to a blog on my own domain and hosting. How easy is this to do and did you outsource the whole process and all you needed was his free blog log in details and walking him through buying a domain and hosting and giving you the login details for that?

          If it was that simple then I take my hat off for you my friend

          Cheers
          Jan - hi - it really is that simple - 1. You can outsource all of it and my advice when outsourcing is pick a resource that has strong feedback (e.g. in scriptlance you can click on the bidders' userid and find feedback on that person.)

          I created the namecheap acct. for him, registering the domain with namecheap (this is real easy and if you don't want to do it - just send the client the link to create. Then had him create the hosting acct. and I pointed the domain name servers of the domain (namecheap) over to the hosting account...then gave ftp access and cpanel access to the scriptlance resource...(which is basically in the welcome email) - then your resource you hired can do it all.

          I do know how to transfer as it really isn't that difficult.

          So outsourcing is the best way so you can concentrate on developing the relationship with the customer or market to new customers!

          I personally love outsourcing as you give all the details to your outsourced resource, go to bed and wake up next morning with the work all done! Most of the outsourced Wordpress resources I use are in India, Pakistan or Eastern Europe.

          Just to be safe, change the access (password) details after all done...
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          • Profile picture of the author jan roos
            Do you point the domain to wordpress or squarespace hosting account or can any hosting work? I guess I don't understand how he will be able to keep the blogging platform or is that what the transfer guy does?

            I already found a blogger blog and i'll probably email the owner once I understand everything a little better.

            Thanks for the help,

            Cheers
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            • Profile picture of the author Maria Gudelis
              Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

              Do you point the domain to wordpress or squarespace hosting account or can any hosting work? I guess I don't understand how he will be able to keep the blogging platform or is that what the transfer guy does?

              I already found a blogger blog and i'll probably email the owner once I understand everything a little better.

              Thanks for the help,

              Cheers
              Hi Jan - you point the domain to the domain name servers of the hosting account - the hosting that works is a purchased hosting account (not a free one). You can if you want - pre-look for a resource on scriptlance or getafreelancer for instance to find a good outsourcer to help you....or I'm sure there are fellow warriors that could help in this as well!

              you could also google "blogger blog on own domain"...I targetted mainly wordpress hosted sites as I learned a huge lesson when wordpress deleted my blog so felt the pain!

              cheers, m
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              • Profile picture of the author jan roos
                I think I worded my question wrong basically what I am asking is if he has his wordpress on his own domain and hosting company does he still need a wordpress account in order to use the blogging tools hat wordpress offers ? I have never used wordpress so excuse me if this is a dumb question.

                Cheers
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                • Profile picture of the author Susan Hope
                  Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

                  I think I worded my question wrong basically what I am asking is if he has his wordpress on his own domain and hosting company does he still need a wordpress account in order to use the blogging tools hat wordpress offers ? I have never used wordpress so excuse me if this is a dumb question.

                  Cheers

                  Jan,

                  Wordpress is free to download and then put up on your hosting/domain, so no they would not need an account still with wordpress.

                  Thanks for this great post though, I agree with someone else, that is thinking outside the box.

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                  • Profile picture of the author Phil Coleman
                    Hi Miaroman

                    Another Warrior gem. I keep saying how much great info and amazing ideas people readily share here.

                    You could have sold that idea as a WSO mate. Glad you didn't but it shows the quality of this forum.

                    Nice one.

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                    • Profile picture of the author Maria Gudelis
                      Hey Phil - thanks for the nice words - figured it was time for me to start contributing more...I found the WF a year ago and couldn't believe the quality of info here - wish I'd known about it earlier as the info here and in the WSO's here (most of them - I did get taken on one...but alas - that happens....anyway the WSO's are incredible value!

                      Originally Posted by Phil Coleman View Post

                      Hi Miaroman

                      Another Warrior gem. I keep saying how much great info and amazing ideas people readily share here.

                      You could have sold that idea as a WSO mate. Glad you didn't but it shows the quality of this forum.

                      Nice one.

                      Phil
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                • Profile picture of the author JustVisiting
                  Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

                  I think I worded my question wrong basically what I am asking is if he has his wordpress on his own domain and hosting company does he still need a wordpress account in order to use the blogging tools hat wordpress offers ? I have never used wordpress so excuse me if this is a dumb question.

                  Cheers
                  If you want a wordpress API then you need a wordpress.com account.
                  You need an API for some plugins, such as the wordpress stats plugin and askimet.
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          • Profile picture of the author al_clark7
            Originally Posted by miaroman View Post

            Jan - hi - it really is that simple - 1. You can outsource all of it and my advice when outsourcing is pick a resource that has strong feedback (e.g. in scriptlance you can click on the bidders' userid and find feedback on that person.)

            I created the namecheap acct. for him, registering the domain with namecheap (this is real easy and if you don't want to do it - just send the client the link to create. Then had him create the hosting acct. and I pointed the domain name servers of the domain (namecheap) over to the hosting account...then gave ftp access and cpanel access to the scriptlance resource...(which is basically in the welcome email) - then your resource you hired can do it all.

            I do know how to transfer as it really isn't that difficult.

            So outsourcing is the best way so you can concentrate on developing the relationship with the customer or market to new customers!

            I personally love outsourcing as you give all the details to your outsourced resource, go to bed and wake up next morning with the work all done! Most of the outsourced Wordpress resources I use are in India, Pakistan or Eastern Europe.

            Just to be safe, change the access (password) details after all done...

            Pure genius! Thanks for sharing that idea. In two days I have found 2 really easy workable ideas for free. And they involve using skills I've already learned. I've made a folder on my computer named "Future Ideas" for when I get time to start another venture!

            Thankyou very much!
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          • Profile picture of the author mark z
            Originally Posted by Maria Gudelis View Post

            I personally love outsourcing as you give all the details to your outsourced resource, go to bed and wake up next morning with the work all done! Most of the outsourced Wordpress resources I use are in India, Pakistan or Eastern Europe.

            Just to be safe, change the access (password) details after all done...
            This is very important point.
            Still, it is amazing how many people are missing this crucial security protection.

            Furthermore, after checking of proper dbase and files transfer (or finalization of any remote project at all) I strongly advise the client (owner) to change the password once again. So he would be the only one with valid access permission.
            For his own security reasons. And for my own convenience, too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jakehyten
    wow, that is awesome dude
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  • Profile picture of the author jayden.fellze
    Amazing Idea Let me try my hand at it now.
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  • Profile picture of the author abhinav42
    I can't believe it worked. If I had some one asking me $1000 just to transfer my blog, then he would have had it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohsin Rasool
    Hi,

    Thanks for sharing your success story..
    it is very inspiring...

    For me, i would have saved that $80 also as i have in-house resources
    to do that stuff :-) LOL

    Again thanks for writing so positive post...
    Mohsin Rasool
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  • Profile picture of the author mookinman
    Great tip, miaroman. A nice method for complimenting my existing methods (I look for businesses using adwords that needn't be, and re-vamp/SEO their site)
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  • Profile picture of the author mymarketingsecret
    pretty slick, thanks for sharing
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    • Profile picture of the author NickArnold
      Good idea, I will give you that.

      However, very hard to believe that you've made $1000 doing this....

      Why? Because paying $1000 just to transfer the blog from wordpress to your own host is extortionate.

      Anyone who owns a site that is making enough money online to justify this, will obviously know their share about how the Internet works and such. No way would I believe they would pay this much.

      Maybe $100 or $200 at most but not $1000.

      If this is true, good luck and keep at it. Even if it isn't, its a great idea and informative post.
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      • Profile picture of the author awesometbn
        Originally Posted by NickArnold View Post

        Good idea, I will give you that.

        However, very hard to believe that you've made $1000 doing this....
        The OP is in Canada, so what is the currency? Is it CAD or USD? The $1000 invoice in CAD is equal to about $822 USD according to xe.com. I don't have a hard time believing this price, because you have to make sure you are not devaluing yourself or the services you provide. Sure it makes for competition to get someone else to do the same thing for cheaper, but that's the game, trying to get the sale as quick as possible. I like the idea about outsourcing the actual work. That means you could scale this up to handle hundreds of clients instead of one at a time.
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        • Profile picture of the author Maria Gudelis
          Originally Posted by awesometbn View Post

          The OP is in Canada, so what is the currency? Is it CAD or USD? The $1000 invoice in CAD is equal to about $822 USD according to xe.com. I don't have a hard time believing this price, because you have to make sure you are not devaluing yourself or the services you provide. Sure it makes for competition to get someone else to do the same thing for cheaper, but that's the game, trying to get the sale as quick as possible. I like the idea about outsourcing the actual work. That means you could scale this up to handle hundreds of clients instead of one at a time.

          Hey there - I did invoice it in USD (losing enough on trips to Europe already with the exchange rate...so gotta make sure I can buy that Belgium beer )
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      • Profile picture of the author Fox30
        What would be the best way to find wordpress blogs that need this service?
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      • Profile picture of the author Maria Gudelis
        Nick - in the consulting biz - it is about perceived value - believe me - that client got some good deals on the continuity work I've done for that company...and frankly I wouldn't be interested in taking on a new client that didn't have a budget for $1,000 and up....it get's suprising how your profit margins can vary on certain projects, scope creep etc.



        Originally Posted by NickArnold View Post

        Good idea, I will give you that.

        However, very hard to believe that you've made $1000 doing this....

        Why? Because paying $1000 just to transfer the blog from wordpress to your own host is extortionate.

        Anyone who owns a site that is making enough money online to justify this, will obviously know their share about how the Internet works and such. No way would I believe they would pay this much.

        Maybe $100 or $200 at most but not $1000.

        If this is true, good luck and keep at it. Even if it isn't, its a great idea and informative post.
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      • Profile picture of the author Heman Patel
        Originally Posted by NickArnold View Post

        Good idea, I will give you that.

        However, very hard to believe that you've made $1000 doing this....

        Why? Because paying $1000 just to transfer the blog from wordpress to your own host is extortionate.

        Anyone who owns a site that is making enough money online to justify this, will obviously know their share about how the Internet works and such. No way would I believe they would pay this much.

        Maybe $100 or $200 at most but not $1000.

        If this is true, good luck and keep at it. Even if it isn't, its a great idea and informative post.
        agreed.... hard to believe but i guess if the dude was willing to pay you then why not. But im still boggled on the fact that, the guy responded to your email on first try.

        anyways, congrats.
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  • Profile picture of the author Desray
    Now thats what i call being creative, you did very well there to get him to pay $1000
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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    I guess I'm not seeing how this will work. If the blog is on the wordpress.com domain, then switching it to his own domain will change the domain name, and thus change the google placement. Am I getting it wrong here?
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    • Profile picture of the author naruq
      Miaroman Thanks for sharing your great strategy!
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    • Profile picture of the author Easy_Money
      Originally Posted by garyv View Post

      I guess I'm not seeing how this will work. If the blog is on the wordpress.com domain, then switching it to his own domain will change the domain name, and thus change the google placement. Am I getting it wrong here?
      I'm not an seo person by any means, but ...

      If the blog has made it to that point for keywords only, and not backlinks, it is probably quite likely that the new blog will gain rank.

      I would think that he should be posting to both blogs, but personally, I would post extra to the new blog. Over time, and maybe not much time, it could quickly overtake that number 1 spot, and then he might have the first 2 spots.

      If the blog is ranked for offpage optimization, he will need to build new backlinks to the new blog.

      While this may be an issue to keep in mind, so you can answer the question, your focus should be on selling the control over the blog. If your blog is deleted, that google position means nothing!
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve1776
      How to Move from Blogger to WordPress Using Your Own Domain Name tells how to do it so you don't loose google ranking. Takes more than one day the way they say do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author godzillaalmighty
    Cool tip! Sometimes you just read some threads and you're just astonished to see how people come with very creative ideas! Well done!

    Cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author tiger325
      another creative way to make money online
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Sol
    Great idea!
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  • Profile picture of the author Marc Marseille
    great idea...I can't believe you got him to pay $1000 dollars..have you gotten someone else to pay that much?
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  • Profile picture of the author JonathanBoettcher
    Sweet idea.. my only question is then how do you get the new blog to rank highly? I guess there will be a cross over period, but all the backlinks are no good anymore....
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    • Profile picture of the author getsmartt
      Originally Posted by JonathanBoettcher View Post

      Sweet idea.. my only question is then how do you get the new blog to rank highly? I guess there will be a cross over period, but all the backlinks are no good anymore....
      Having never used wordpress.com I have to ask is there no way to do a redirect to the new blog to save pagerank and backlinks? i.e. alter the headers to do an html 301 etc...
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      • Profile picture of the author Dixiebelle
        I can see this idea producing a lot of spam mail to a lot of bloggers.

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      • Profile picture of the author Maria Gudelis
        Originally Posted by getsmartt View Post

        Having never used wordpress.com I have to ask is there no way to do a redirect to the new blog to save pagerank and backlinks? i.e. alter the headers to do an html 301 etc...
        Hey there, there are a few questions on the pagerank and backlinks so I'll try my best to answer:

        1. It was a fairly 'young' blog (less than one year) and they had done no backlink work on it - in fact- I did 'throw' in for free a webwire press release (pr7 backlink) on the blog, and did some social bookmarking
        2. The google juice for them was in their comments - they have a lot of people joining their conversation so that was critical to not lose any of the comments
        3. After only 2 months since I transferred it over - it has a page rank of 3
        3. So when it was transferred over - they actually get better SEO benefits for long-term as I made sure all the 'SEO loving plug ins' were there, put a widget on the right to show 'most recent comments' (google loves that!), the xml site map, created an RSS feed over at feedburner, had the images they used - added better seo descriptions to it, etc. some of the plugins were:

        All in one SEO Pack
        Google XML sitemap
        Headspace2

        Hope that helps..
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        • Profile picture of the author koolphoto
          Maria just proved that if you want to make significant money in business then you need to "think outside the box." I have always found this to be true.
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        • Profile picture of the author JaySabree
          Hello Hello,

          Just wondering how much I should charge for this kind of job???

          1) Take a wordpress theme I select and customize it to match a custom designed website. PSD/Fireworks PNG will be provided along with example xhtml/css.
          2) Ability to use wordpress as CMS to display content on any page in the site, for example About Us.
          3) Ability to use wordpress to show page with 3 recent articles from a news section, press section, testimonials section, events section
          4) Ability to use wordpress to show detail/archive pages for each section listed in #3.
          5) Ability to show most recent blog section and news section posts in site footer/sidebar
          6) Ability to have a section called blog which filters out the sections from #3
          7) Ability to index posts by category/section and keyword.

          Please provide a ballpark timeline, and a link to your online portfolio or even better a list of links to 2-3 wordpress implementations you have worked on.
          Thanks
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        • Profile picture of the author tunukwa
          Hi, I am a newbie to both internet marketing and the forum. Thank you for sharing that wonderful idea and all the other information. Thank you, thank you, thank you.


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        • Profile picture of the author patwin
          Way to go Maria,

          I joined WF in mid October. I've been hanging out in here for at least an hour each day and every single day, I get a OMG idea!

          Thank you all so much - really love WF and all of you.

          A few thoughts about the customer's mindset:

          For those of you that express concern over 'ripoff' pricing - He's making so much money doing what he does, he's glad to meet such a quality human being as Maria to help him move forward with his successful WP site. And, he is offering her subsequent business on other projects.

          He is definitely very fortunate to meet you Maria! Your introduction has been win-win to all concerned.
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        • Profile picture of the author davis9461
          Beautiful technique! I think that is a perfect example of "Thinking outside the box."
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Williams
    Way to RIP THAT GUY OFF!

    Please don't take that the wrong way. I know that there is no "real" price for a product. It's just what the consumer is willing to pay. But I still have to point it out.
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    • Profile picture of the author Magic Johnson
      Originally Posted by Mike Williams View Post

      Way to RIP THAT GUY OFF!

      Please don't take that the wrong way. I know that there is no "real" price for a product. It's just what the consumer is willing to pay. But I still have to point it out.
      Now a bunch get bad ideas about money online, and offline...

      $1000 and friggin "billy joel" can do it to... this is how I did it,

      No No No - The world is just getting worse by the minute with this type of guides that leave a lot of info out, and then overcharges XXX$
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  • Profile picture of the author JonathanBoettcher
    If he was that willing to pay, then that's a fair deal. Anyone read Adam Smith lately?
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  • Profile picture of the author Laura L. Harris
    Man, should i say, owner was totally newbie? Anyway, I liked your method too much, I am gonna to try out this today!!

    Thanks a lot, you make my day
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    • Profile picture of the author xrahull
      I find it hilarious that people are doubting that a business owner would pay $1000 for this kind of service.

      I work with a lot of "offline" clients and they easily cut me a check for $2000 as a deposit just for me to find a solution to a problem for them. These people are "offline" business owners and if you have ever operated an "offline" business you will realize that you will not have near the amount of time you may now have (being an online marketer and all) to keep up with methods of technology.

      In this particular case the person had a blog online that had acquired decent Google placement but let's remember that it was a FREE blog that is easy to sign up for and operate. I don't understand how this can be seen as someone that "is knowledgeable or internet savvy".

      You may be aware of the fact that this could be something you could do for yourself with the proper knowledge, but to take 10 hours researching and learning how to solve the issue (or trying to find someone else to do this specific task for you cheaper), another couple of hours preparing the task (a lot involved in a switch over), and then actually doing all the work involved and praying that your new-found knowledge didn't leave some important tidbit of information out, you would have been WAY better off just paying the $1000 and being done with it. And this is how most, stretched for time, business owners would feel about the situation. This is without the value adds of all the other benefits this service offers the client.

      I mean, it may be hard for some to believe a client would pay $600 bucks to have an auto-responder added to their site with advice on what to do with it, but clients pay it all the time. After teaching them what the benefits are, and weighing in on the fact that they are not "techies", plus the fact that it would take them forever (if they actually did it at all), it is well worth the $600 bucks to them.

      Just my 1 cent. The economy is too scary to be giving my full 2 cents worth.
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      • Profile picture of the author bellis160
        Originally Posted by xrahull View Post

        I find it hilarious that people are doubting that a business owner would pay $1000 for this kind of service.

        I work with a lot of "offline" clients and they easily cut me a check for $2000 as a deposit just for me to find a solution to a problem for them. These people are "offline" business owners and if you have ever operated an "offline" business you will realize that you will not...

        REMOVED FOR BREVITY

        ...fits are, and weighing in on the fact that they are not "techies", plus the fact that it would take them forever (if they actually did it at all), it is well worth the $600 bucks to them.

        Just my 1 cent. The economy is too scary to be giving my full 2 cents worth.

        You are absolutely correct. The idea that somehow the customer was taken advantage of is ridiculous. When you look at these kinds of comments at a deeper lever you see they are thinking like consumers instead of as business owners.

        The value the consultant provided was not the labor intensive action of transferring the blog. It was the knowledge of how to do something for the customer that would protect and help his business. It was the trust in the consultants knowledge and experience that were important.

        In business that trust and rapport are infinitely more valuable than the cost of the labor. The business owner was paying someone he trusted. Someone he believed had the right experience and knowledge to help protect and grow his company.

        This is business 101. The consultant adds value because of her experience and knowledge. The cost of labor is not really even a consideration.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steve1776
        Originally Posted by xrahull View Post

        You may be aware of the fact that this could be something you could do for yourself with the proper knowledge, but to take 10 hours researching and learning how to solve the issue (or trying to find someone else to do this specific task for you cheaper), another couple of hours preparing the task (a lot involved in a switch over), and then actually doing all the work involved and praying that your new-found knowledge didn't leave some important tidbit of information out, you would have been WAY better off just paying the $1000 and being done with it. And this is how most, stretched for time, business owners would feel about the situation. This is without the value adds of all the other benefits this service offers the client.
        There are three reasons that I can think of for a business person to pay.
        1 See quote above
        2 He could be doing something to put money in his pocket instead.
        3 His time is free. Your bill is tax deductible.
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  • Profile picture of the author Laura L. Harris
    Sorry, but I would like to ask one more thing, can you give me some hint on how to find such buyers? Means, what niche?
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    • Profile picture of the author Maria Gudelis
      Originally Posted by Laura L. Harris View Post

      Sorry, but I would like to ask one more thing, can you give me some hint on how to find such buyers? Means, what niche?

      Hey Laura - glad it gave you and others some ideas. Here's the thing, I never went 'looking' per se for it - I stumbled upon it when doing a google search for a certain keyword term...and just had my eyes open/brain open to say - wow - can't believe this blog is there and it is not hosted on their own domain etc. as in the future - it will be worth more money and just build in value.

      ...so that can be also in your back pocket when you are on the web and a scenario like above comes up in your search results.

      Here are some key pointers I'd say - the real opportunity is that Wordpress will / could truly delete your blog if it is hosted on wordpress if they deem it too commercial in nature...

      so...I'd stay away from pitching blog owners that are not commercial in nature. In my case, that blog was a company, pitching a company and branding key people in their company so I knew wordpress one day would take it out.

      it would requred surfing wordpress dot com a bit (suppose you could outsource that too!)- click on the tags on right hand side and you find a bunch of blogs - I just went there and clicked on 'health ' tag - suprised to see one blog that is one year old and yet has no page rank - (you can install seoquake in firefox to quickly see age of the blog, pr, links etc.)

      Besides commercial in nature, if the blog is fairly young, OR has no page rank at all - you can also pitch the benefits of growing 'your own asset' to the prospect - when you own the domain and a whole slew of benefits to them such as:

      1. ability to put an autoresponder on your own hosted wp blog (when you create a free hosted blog on wordpress.com - you can't install the html code from your autoresponsder (I've tried!) - showing wordpress hosted no like commercial in nature blogs...
      2. Flexibility to add more functionality at a later stage in your web development - e.g. adding a forum on it down the road
      etc.

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  • Profile picture of the author multimastery
    Congrats!!! Now that's what I call savvy business work
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  • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
    Hey Maria,

    Good going girl!

    Lol there are gobs of services like this one you posted that will help people and bring in good money. The thing is, they are so simple, most people don't pay attention to them, or try them out.

    I know I was guilty of this for a couple of years. I kept thinking, "Na, that's too simple to work." But I soon found out that nothing is too simple, and if you run a good service, are a little persistant, and do a little reasearch, you can accomplish much in a very short time.

    Another thing too is that some people under cut their price underestimating the value of the service. You have to know what to charge, when to charge, and have a keen eye for the need.

    Simple SEO, and light design work are other services that come to mind as well.


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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Wilkinson
    Taking this up one level, it helps to have the mindset of a
    Buccaneer. Someone who works a 9 to 5 and comes home
    to sit in front of the TV and drink beer is never going to see
    this. You have the skills to give the client genuine value, the
    mindset to see the opportunity and the moxie to take action.
    Nice going.

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  • Profile picture of the author charlesburke
    It's interesting, the wide variation in responses to this post. Some are here to learn and grow, and they "get" the basic idea right away. They may need some details explained, but the concept resonates for them because they're open.

    And then there are those who are so locked into their "making money is bad" mindset that they can't see past their own prejudices. It's no mystery why we see so many complaining about not making it and how hard it is. The culprit here is not Internet marketing, and it's not those who are earning the money. It's the mental habits that condemn boldness, confidence, professionalism and self-worth. Makes you wonder why they're so afraid of those qualities.

    A suggestion - for what it's worth - when you run across one of those "I'm shocked" posts, mark the name well. Maybe even keep a list. Then if you ever see that name again and they're offering to sell anything about marketing, sales or success, don't buy it. You've already witnessed the size of their vision. Do you reeally think they can teach you anything useful?

    What a great opportunity! We can not only learn from the positive, helpful posts here, but we can also learn something from the "other side" too.

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    • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
      Originally Posted by charlesburke View Post

      It's interesting, the wide variation in responses to this post. Some are here to learn and grow, and they "get" the basic idea right away. They may need some details explained, but the concept resonates for them because they're open.

      And then there are those who are so locked into their "making money is bad" mindset that they can't see past their own prejudices. It's no mystery why we see so many complaining about not making it and how hard it is. The culprit here is not Internet marketing, and it's not those who are earning the money. It's the mental habits that condemn boldness, confidence, professionalism and self-worth. Makes you wonder why they're so afraid of those qualities.

      A suggestion - for what it's worth - when you run across one of those "I'm shocked" posts, mark the name well. Maybe even keep a list. Then if you ever see that name again and they're offering to sell anything about marketing, sales or success, don't buy it. You've already witnessed the size of their vision. Do you reeally think they can teach you anything useful?

      What a great opportunity! We can not only learn from the positive, helpful posts here, but we can also learn something from the "other side" too.

      Cheers from warm and smiling Thailand,
      Charles
      Hey Charles,

      Some people think this way because they think like a consumer, not a marketer or a person who is in business. When they get to thinking about thrier own business, it'll sink in.
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      • Profile picture of the author Magic Johnson
        Originally Posted by mmurtha View Post

        Hey Charles,

        Some people think this way because they think like a consumer, not a marketer or a person who is in business. When they get to thinking about thrier own business, it'll sink in.
        Originally Posted by thailand View Post

        And then there are those who are so locked into their "making money is bad" mindset that they can't see past their own prejudices. It's no mystery why we see so many complaining about not making it and how hard it is. The culprit here is not Internet marketing, and it's not those who are earning the money. It's the mental habits that condemn boldness, confidence, professionalism and self-worth. Makes you wonder why they're so afraid of those qualities.

        You are both sooo wrong, and just generalize/charles like the cluesless do...

        Every time I speak my opinion, I speak on per thread basis. This comment by Charles just show how clueless someone can become, and start generalize, if they said it Twice, they out to be "No Marketers".

        Guess what In this case, its overcharge, its praying on the gullible. If someone knows how to market for real they go out and bring customers and take a hefty fee, either that or a % of all new sales.

        I Care about Customers out there. I'm not thinking like one. Big friggin different so shut your P-hole.

        Cheers from cold Sweden skiing here (You sound like a self served MLM pusher btw)
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        • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
          Originally Posted by Magic Johnson View Post

          You are both sooo wrong, and just generalize/charles like the cluesless do...

          Every time I speak my opinion, I speak on per thread basis. This comment by Charles just show how clueless someone can become, and start generalize, if they said it Twice, they out to be "No Marketers".

          Guess what In this case, its overcharge, its praying on the gullible. If someone knows how to market for real they go out and bring customers and take a hefty fee, either that or a % of all new sales.

          I Care about Customers out there. I'm not thinking like one. Big friggin different so shut your P-hole.

          Cheers from cold Sweden skiing here (You sound like a self served MLM pusher btw)
          Hey Magic,

          Cluless? Lol thanks for proving his point.

          Btw, is it in your nature to assume guilt for everyone out there who thinks like a consumer? Or just simply imature?

          Now if you are thru slapping at people, perhaps we can get on with this thread.

          Have a great day ....
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      • Profile picture of the author charlesburke
        Originally Posted by mmurtha View Post

        Hey Charles,

        Some people think this way because they think like a consumer, not a marketer or a person who is in business. When they get to thinking about thrier own business, it'll sink in.
        Very well said. And although the step up from consumer to producer can be a very large step for some, at least the Warrior Forum is the right place to learn.

        Special Note to Newbies: It's important to remember at all times that what we write reveals everything about our thinking, our viewpoints, our prejudices and our values. A psychologist (I think it was Mansfield) once wrote that a person's mental blocks are totally invisible - to no one but himself. But it goes much farther than that. One's generosity, openness and willingness to share knowledge are also clearly visible. Just think before you fire off a comment. Once posted, it's there for a long, long time (unless some moderator mercifully deletes it).

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  • Profile picture of the author lienadla
    This is a great idea! I will try this soon and post any results that I may get.

    Thanks Maria
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Moore
    Great idea. Outsourcing rocks! You can apply the same concept for a ton of other tasks...
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  • Profile picture of the author emigre
    It's not about how good you are, it's about finding clueless noobs with deep pockets - best way to make money as many have testified here.
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  • Profile picture of the author bingbong
    great idea. it's not for everyone though. centainly one of the quickest way to make money in big way. i'm pretty interested in your product though but i believe that i do not possess those expertise and i end up not ordering. thanks for sharing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christie Love
    Awesome job, Maria. Your quick whit never ceases to amaze me.

    This is good information for those wanting to make money and lack the technical know-how to do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mary Gallivan
    That's a really good idea - thanks for sharing - well done!

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  • Profile picture of the author stevenh512
    Great idea! I don't know that I'd charge $1000 for such a simple job (whether I did it myself or outsourced it), but I don't doubt that someone was willing to pay that price either.

    Now I'm off to try this one myself.. lol.. could use a little extra in my paypal account right now (I have bills to pay, not a lot of money coming in online, and in this town you couldn't find a "J.O.B." if you paid them to let you work.. there isn't even so much as a liquor store or a gas station in this town lol).
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  • Profile picture of the author Franck Silvestre
    Awesome.

    Consulting has no limit on the web.

    Bravo!
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  • Profile picture of the author morwanneg
    Clever. How many times have you done this?
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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    Thanks for sharing. You can also make a lot of money moving forums from one host to another if you know mysql. Typically what happens is that a person gets tired of poor cheap hosts and their forum is down more than it is up. You ask them if they want to move it. You get money from the hosting company for the new client.
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  • Profile picture of the author billionareHuman
    thanks for this it's a really good idea. Do you think you go lucky or do you think a high percentage of company blogs would transfer?
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  • Hi guys,

    Here's a point that a lot of folks who don't deal with brick-and-mortar businesses don't know: these business owners know their business, but don't know marketing.

    Local or regional businesses can spend way more than $1,000 on one-shot ads in newspapers, monthly circulars and the like. Plus (?), they can't track whether or not the ad paid off, unless they put in a coupon or some other way to do so.

    If it looks like charging $1,000 is a lot of money to just transfer a free Wordpress blog to one's own domain and server, that's because you're thinking like an IM'er. That's a fatal mindset!

    You cannot set the price for a service like this based on the "wholesale" cost of what needs to be done. The real value is long term -- keeping your blog (and the revenue it can generate) versus losing it to the Wordpress Police.

    Most importantly, business owners don't want cheap -- they want the best and they want it to work! If you are afraid to ask for big bucks as a consultant to businesses, you may drive away potential clients. That's because if what you offer isn't worth a lot of money, then YOU don't deserve their business.

    Remember the story of the furnace repair man? He tapped the furnace twice with a hammer, fixing it, and charged $250. The outraged client demanded an itemized bill. Here it is:
    1. Tapping with a hammer -- $1.00
    2. Knowing where to tap -- $249.00
    Go thou and do likewise...
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    • Has Maria or anyone else had anymore luck with this? I tried to do something similar, but so far I have not gotten any responses. Perhaps I need to sharpen my strategy for finding possible customers.
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    • Profile picture of the author bellis160
      Originally Posted by Vince Runza Online View Post

      Hi guys,

      Here's a point that a lot of folks who don't deal with brick-and-mortar businesses don't know: these business owners know their business, but don't know marketing.

      Local or regional businesses can spend way more than $1,000 on one-shot ads in newspapers, monthly circulars and the like. Plus (?), they can't track whether or not the ad paid off, unless they put in a coupon or some other way to do so.

      If it looks like charging $1,000 is a lot of money to just transfer a free Wordpress blog to one's own domain and server, that's because you're thinking like an IM'er. That's a fatal mindset!

      You cannot set the price for a service like this based on the "wholesale" cost of what needs to be done. The real value is long term -- keeping your blog (and the revenue it can generate) versus losing it to the Wordpress Police.

      Most importantly, business owners don't want cheap -- they want the best and they want it to work! If you are afraid to ask for big bucks as a consultant to businesses, you may drive away potential clients. That's because if what you offer isn't worth a lot of money, then YOU don't deserve their business.

      Remember the story of the furnace repair man? He tapped the furnace twice with a hammer, fixing it, and charged $250. The outraged client demanded an itemized bill. Here it is:
      1. Tapping with a hammer -- $1.00
      2. Knowing where to tap -- $249.00
      Go thou and do likewise...
      Amen. That says it all. I really feel sorry for anyone who doesn't understand this and is also trying to make a living online. They are there own worst enemy.
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    • Profile picture of the author intratec10
      Originally Posted by Vince Runza Online View Post

      Hi guys,

      Here's a point that a lot of folks who don't deal with brick-and-mortar businesses don't know: these business owners know their business, but don't know marketing.

      Local or regional businesses can spend way more than $1,000 on one-shot ads in newspapers, monthly circulars and the like. Plus (?), they can't track whether or not the ad paid off, unless they put in a coupon or some other way to do so.

      If it looks like charging $1,000 is a lot of money to just transfer a free Wordpress blog to one's own domain and server, that's because you're thinking like an IM'er. That's a fatal mindset!

      You cannot set the price for a service like this based on the "wholesale" cost of what needs to be done. The real value is long term -- keeping your blog (and the revenue it can generate) versus losing it to the Wordpress Police.

      Most importantly, business owners don't want cheap -- they want the best and they want it to work! If you are afraid to ask for big bucks as a consultant to businesses, you may drive away potential clients. That's because if what you offer isn't worth a lot of money, then YOU don't deserve their business.

      Remember the story of the furnace repair man? He tapped the furnace twice with a hammer, fixing it, and charged $250. The outraged client demanded an itemized bill. Here it is:
      1. Tapping with a hammer -- $1.00
      2. Knowing where to tap -- $249.00
      Go thou and do likewise...
      I had to read this 3 times. Great post!
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  • Profile picture of the author reynald2790
    Great strategy. You really are very familiar in internet marketing. Thank you for sharing your experiences to us. Hoping it will help lots of warriors here who are looking for some income while they are looking for a right job.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ray Erdmann
      DAMN IT!

      I had this great response that I typed up after reading the 1st page and it was all ready for me to 'copy and paste' and then...I see the posts from "Vince Runza Online" and "Bellis160", who literally took the words right out of my own mouth..sorta off... :-)

      Not sure how you guys pulled that one off, but I guess great minds do think alike! ;-)

      Well, that and you two made it sound so much nicer then what I had written down!


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  • Profile picture of the author articlemaster
    hmm thats a very nice work..
    Great job and good earning with so much less effort..
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      You guys that are moaning about Maria overcharging her client are missing a few very important points, and they have nothing to do with thinking like a consumer or marketer.

      1. Maria knew about the risk of putting the company blog on a service which frowns on commercial activity. The client did not.

      2. Once aware of the risk, the blog owner didn't know how to fix the problem. Maria did.

      3. By turning the job over to Maria, it allowed the blog owner to continue operating his business, rather than pay the opportunity cost learn to do it himself.

      As for those who think the job was too easy, think about it. Setting up blogs and websites, moving them around, promoting them - this is your stock in trade. It's fast and easy for you, because you do it a lot, and you get better/faster every time you do it.

      For most real world business owners, setting up a blog or website is a one time deal. Sure, they could learn to do the mechanical parts, but they won't have the repetitions to be really good at it.

      Just this morning, I paid a local business just over $300 to fix my car window. Part of the power window mechanism wore out, and I couldn't shut my window.

      I had choices...

      I could let the dealer fix it. I'd know going in that whatever they quoted me would be the highest possible price, at least in raw terms. It would have meant driving to the dealer, and cooling my heels in a waiting room until they got around to doing it.

      I could have taken it to a repair shop, maybe saved a few bucks, but still lost several hours.

      I could try to do it myself. Research online and at the public library for the proper manual. Dig out the tools buried in my garage. Go to a parts store or salvage yard and try to get the best price on the part. Rip my car door apart. Curse loudly, bandage my knuckles and check the effing manual again... If I got it back together and working, I might have saved some money but lost a whole workday (not to mention the skin on my knuckles and my dignity).

      Or I could do what I did. I called a local mobile repair service. He showed up at the house, with the right parts, tools and skill. Start to finish, it took him about 35 minutes. A few more minutes of conversation, and he was off with a check and my business card and I was back at work.

      The part I needed ran about $150, so at most I would have saved $150 trying to do it myself.

      How many of you value your time at more than $150/day ($18.75 per hour for an 8 hour day)?

      I was happy to write the check, and so was Maria's client...
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  • Profile picture of the author moneytize
    that is pretty cool but i can't believe someone just dished over $1k and the passwords to their site that easily. good thing you werent malicious

    nice job though making a pretty penny!
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  • Profile picture of the author wearehere
    Good idea though I don't believe the price of 1000. YOU give us a choice of earning.
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    Those who think that $1000 was too much for this job need
    to read this book ...


    Value-Based Fees: How to Charge - and Get - What...Value-Based Fees: How to Charge - and Get - What... by Alan Weiss

    Enough said ...

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  • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
    I am so amazed at the cluelessness of some of the people who come here supposedly to learn how to make money and run a business, online or offline.

    You're the same noobs and bozos who would cry in agony when learning that some IT consultant charges $2500 an hour - and gets it. So he spends 10 hours working out how to revamp a company's IT systems and gets paid $25K. Not bad for a day's work, eh?

    RIPOFF!!!, you cry!

    The company changed its systems, and because of the changes, saves $350K every year in costs.

    Is the IT consultant still not worth $25K?

    Many of you would still say "NO, he's not!"

    Amazing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nevada Gal
    Can't believe I missed this post .... maybe I slept through October.

    This is a great tactic and I think I might employ it. What some of you are missing is that everyone has a duty to charge for their time and their skill. I think $1,000 is a deal to make sure your site is intact and not stripped off the wordpress site.

    Information is money. This is something I'm drilling in my head. I live in such an Internet bubble that I take it for granted that others know what I know and then I shocked when I get out and find out they know NOTHING! I mean nothing. They don't know what PPC is, SEO, keyword research, none of it.

    Lately I've been thinking of doing a free seminar with offline buisnesses so they can hire me to do their PPC etc.

    Anyway, great post!
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  • Profile picture of the author n7 Studios
    This is a useful idea, so thanks to the OP for sharing.

    The value of the service is only an issue, because on the face of it, it appears to be a very simple job. When you itemise the work done, the broken down cost becomes more manageable and understandable.

    The cost also determines the quality of service and previous experience of the person offering the service. A client paying $1,000 for this job can expect near perfection, wheras a client paying $10 for this job cannot.

    It only becomes an issue when high prices are charged for poor services, which then gives others in the same field of business a potential bad reputation (not suggesting the OP is doing this - it looks like a job well done!).
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Maria,

    You might want to learn a little about Wordpress - as that $80 is only 5 minutes work when you know how to back up and restore wordpress databases.

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  • Profile picture of the author S Bhaskar
    This is a real nice idea. However, I would'nt have the guts to charge a person $1000 for a $80 job. Is this about the hammer and where to put it to fix the problem kind of story. I guess so.

    Anyways, I now understand the WSO about making money giving away free consultations.
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  • Profile picture of the author adpablo
    Interesting idea on how to make a consulting profit...I will keep it in mind...thanks for sharing...
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  • Profile picture of the author visit_faraz
    Wow, that's really so inspiring.
    Its these type of posts that makes me want to do offline marketing.

    Nice work.

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  • Profile picture of the author JaySabree
    Maria - I Can not thank you enough... I purchased your wso offline marketing for $5 and then I purchased your wso for $27 a little less then two weeks
    ago... I just got home from securing my first deal. A Duct Cleaning Company is paying me $1500.00... I got $500 today and the other half he agreed to pay on Monday... I spent 4 hours this morning explaining the mind map and this was the first time that we met... He then cut me a cheque and signed a legal consultant agreement to pay the remainder by next monday...

    This is such a great feeling... Thank You Maria... From The bottom of my heart... Matinees on me... I'll bring my girl ... you bring the hubby... Lets party!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Ian Jackson
      Thanks Maria... a-w-e-s-o-m-e !

      Just one thing you do that I can't quite grasp

      is a client's WP hosted on my hosting account? or do I set up (a separate host account for each client? I'm thinking of user/password access, but guess I would take care of that on their behalf? and then updates would either have to be accommodated within the original budget, or as an additional cost.

      Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author Ian Jackson
        ... just read the Maria's OP again and it seems that I advise the client how to set up accounts for domain/hosting, but allows me to access them with the user/password they choose...?
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        • Profile picture of the author Maria Gudelis
          Originally Posted by Ian Jackson View Post

          ... just read the Maria's OP again and it seems that I advise the client how to set up accounts for domain/hosting, but allows me to access them with the user/password they choose...?

          Hey Ian! It is better if you host the domain (can charge monthly then) and you give them access to the WP blog via domain.com/wp-admin with a userid / pssword
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        • Profile picture of the author cyberchick
          Hi Maria,

          Kudos to you for thinking outside the box. It's all about perceived value and no one asks twice about the charges dentists and lawyers charge, we simply pay them and for all we know they probably do a couple of hours work for a $2000 bill. So what, they studied their profession for years - but guess what, we do too, especially those who have been around for a while.

          In the end there are two types of people; those who make their own destiny and those who complain about things because they are either too slack, they don't see the bigger picture or they simply are just negative by design.

          I really don't understand why some people come in to the forum to abuse Maria for being so generous?

          But hey, even more room for those who do run with this and make some nice cash.

          Thank you
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          • Profile picture of the author Maria Gudelis
            Originally Posted by cyberchick View Post

            Hi Maria,

            Kudos to you for thinking outside the box. It's all about perceived value and no one asks twice about the charges dentists and lawyers charge, we simply pay them and for all we know they probably do a couple of hours work for a $2000 bill. So what, they studied their profession for years - but guess what, we do too, especially those who have been around for a while.

            In the end there are two types of people; those who make their own destiny and those who complain about things because they are either too slack, they don't see the bigger picture or they simply are just negative by design.

            I really don't understand why some people come in to the forum to abuse Maria for being so generous?

            But hey, even more room for those who do run with this and make some nice cash.

            Thanks you
            Monika
            Thanks Monika - guess it is just a mind set and you are right....more room then to run with it and make $$
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  • Profile picture of the author Avnery
    Thats a brilliant idea just wondering how to estimate the financial value of a potential client site and are there easy ways to identify such clients.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Mcalorum
    Simple innovation, It is and always will be the biggest way to drop some bank.
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  • Profile picture of the author greff
    Maria,

    Excellent. Just plain excellent. It is obvious to me that many of the naysayers are, well, inexperienced.
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    that was awesome
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  • Profile picture of the author Charann Miller
    I think it's great!

    It really does come down to perceived value and what the client was willing to pay for it, you pointed out a very genuine concern and at the same time presented the solution, so why not get paid accordingly for it?

    You should beef this out and promote it as an emergency cash WSO.

    Kudos and rewards for thinking outside the square.
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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    Originally Posted by Maria Gudelis View Post

    Hi all, just wanted to let you know on a 'test strategy' I did that got me a client paying $1,000 for about 2 hours of work (this includes getting the client and the execution of the work)

    1. I noticed while doing some google searches that someone had page 1 ranking for a search term and it was a wordpress blog NOT hosted on their own domain - it was on wordpress (e.g. "thesearchterm.wordpress.com")

    2. I emailed the owner of the wordpress blog 2 brief paragraphs saying basically:

    - you have a nice site, ranking well on google page 1 except you have a major risk exposed to your business. Wordpress does not like companies hosting blogs on wordpress that are commercial and whether it is today, tomorrow, or in the near future, you are exposed to wordpress simply deleting your blog that must have taken a fair bit of energy to create. It happened to me once and cost me some money as I was ranking on google page 1 in number 1 position.

    If you are interested, I can help you eliminate any risk of you losing your blog for a fee of $1,000. That would involve transferring it completely to your own hosted domain, you have full control now in the future and no one can then delete your blog!

    Everything will be the same and as an added benefit, you can get better search engine optimization with added plug ins and I can also put an RSS feed onto your blog.

    ***
    Now I know the above paragraphs are not 'ad copy' optimized - nevertheless, it worked,
    1.The prospect said yes
    2. I sent the company an invoice via paypal functionality
    3. $1,000 came into my account and I got the info to log into the wordpress blog hosted on wordpress.

    4. I spent 15 minutes on the phone helping him with a domain name to use.
    5. He set up a namecheap acct. and a hosting acct. at dreamhost
    6. I got the access info
    7. I went over to scriptlance, posted a job description to transfer the existing wordpress hosted blog over to own hosted WP blog (including all the comments as his blog had a lot of user comments)
    8. Cost of scriptlance resource- $80

    Hmmm...2 hours of my time, net profit of $920...

    Anyhow, hope it helps fire up some ideas to all of you and feel free to test out the fee you charge as one thing that is interesting, is I now am getting other work from that company so the continuity is an added benefit.

    A little bit of an exorbitant amount you are charging this fellow wouldn't you say ?? I am all about Capitalism and making a very healthy Profit. Trust me I am !! But my gosh it cost you $80 and 15 minutes and you charge the guy $1,000 ?? I just wonder what your Customer would think if he happened to stumble upon this Post and read it ??
    In all due respect to the OP would you be comfortable inviting him on this Forum to check out this Thread ? Seriously ? Because I can honestly say I wouldnt have ANY problems for any of my Customers to check out anything I have said on these Forums. Can you say the same ?

    Remember, this guy is also an Intenrnet Marketer as you openly talk about in your original Post.

    Is it very prudent and business saavy to be talking in such a Public Forum about how much you just made off of a fellow Marketer ?? Just asking.......... Because he could easily come on here and see this.

    Not trying to single you out or be a hard arse but just trying to provide a little Food for Thought !!
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  • Profile picture of the author abelacts
    This shows that ideas = money. Pretty clever. Thanks for the great tip.

    One question though: When you move the free site to a paid hosting, doesn't the client lose his SEO ranking? How do you about convincing him on this?
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  • Profile picture of the author Colin Palfrey
    I think the key to your system would work in any field

    1. Show that you have looked at their site and done research
    2. Show genuine interest
    3. Try to help them, offer free advice
    4. No sales pitch cr*p

    I tried this approach today in my business (webdesign & SEO) and it worked a charm.

    One bloke couldn't afford my services, but I gave him advice and tips anyway. 2 hours later I got an email from his friend who wants to spend a lot of money.

    The original person I was helping phoned me back and asked me was it alright that he'd given my email address out, and offered to do any Joinery I may need. lol

    It just shows the power of "taking an interest"
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    Very cool stratagy!
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  • Profile picture of the author madison_avenue
    Great work Maria: To those thinking the price is a bit high:

    Yes in part, the client paid $1000 for a new self hosted site. But mainly, he paid for being alerted to the jeopardy he was placing his business in by relying on a free WordPress site, which could have been pulled at anytime potentially collapsing the business.

    Maria had the good grace to point this out to him, and so prevented this disaster, set him up with a new web-site and did some SEO as well. There was also some project management involved, with part of the project being outsourced.

    I think $1000 is quite a good deal for all of this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Folusho Orokunle
    WOW! I can't believe this is sill going. I love the Warrior Forum. It's posts like this that can really help people if they take action.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
      Wow. Huge price gauge on something that would take literally 30 minutes to do.

      I guess if you can find someone willing to fork over the cash, then why not, right?
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      • Profile picture of the author Maria Gudelis
        Originally Posted by Daniel Brock View Post

        Wow. Huge price gauge on something that would take literally 30 minutes to do.

        I guess if you can find someone willing to fork over the cash, then why not, right?

        30 minutes??

        Methinks one should understand the offline client getting process (tis more than 30 minutes) and the investment of your time is what you put a price on your time for...

        ...are you worth $10 an hour or $350, or $1,000 an hour -

        - how much time have you spent just on the WF alone honing your skills, learning new up to date 'what's working now' internet marketing strategies (from SEO to conversions to branding to info product creation...the goldmine in this WF goes on and on)...

        ...you can't put a price on the above - it is PRICELESS and please - don't forget that anyone reading this...

        your education and knowledge (IP Intellectual Property) in your head is worth A LOT to other business owners, client period.

        Never underestimate that...

        in this particular clients case - it is the ROI that makes the difference and the company received FAR more than $1,000 back in ROI....

        Just one of his clients (customer life time value) is worth over $5,000 ....

        hmmmm....

        now I just wanted everyone to look at 'consulting' with a new perspective..

        How much money will your solution/consulting services MAKE for that client????

        e.g a realtor - if your 'social media package' you charge $3,000 for gets him/her a $500,000 listing in 24 hours after you implement....

        hmmm...3% of $500,000 is $15,000

        ...and that is from ONE listing the realtor gets..now that you have created

        "EVERGREEN" real virtual assets for them (not a $3,000 ad expense one shot deal on a newspaper ad) ...

        that work you charged a measly fee for....keeps on giving and increasing the Return on Investment for that client..

        This is why YOU getting into offline consulting is one of the Ultimate Business Models now to get in...

        Tell me any stock investment one can invest $1,000 and make $5,000 over and over again as a result of YOUR Intellectual Property - YOUR knowledge...

        the FACT you are reading this right now...

        the FACT you are in this Warrior Forum right now...

        MEANS you know more than 99% of all local business owners out there TODAY!

        So my question to you is this...when will you get in on this and start creating some REAL results for you and your clients...

        Sorry for the rant...just had to get the message out

        Because you are undervaluing yourself if you really seriously think $1,000 is expensive -

        Change your mindset, change your life.

        The $1,000 involves key elements of a successful business

        The lifecyle of an offline consulting firm:

        1. Customer orientation
        2. Customer acquisition
        3. Customer Fulfillment (customer service)
        4. Back to Customer orientation - revisit / review/ analyze results to improve and add more revenue streams (offline continuity)

        You become the client's strategic partner that helps you, helps them and it does indeed take more than 30 minutes...

        It isn't the execution...it is the CUSTOMER RELATIONSHIP you create....

        Whew - hope you get the drift...

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  • Profile picture of the author Lisa Gergets
    Originally Posted by Maria Gudelis View Post


    Hmmm...2 hours of my time, net profit of $920...
    All I've got to say is...ho. ly. crap.

    You're amazing, Maria!
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  • Profile picture of the author Lisa Gergets
    Huge price gauge
    Not at all - there's no price gouging going on! Your product or service is worth as much (or as little) as someone is willing to pay for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Colin Palfrey
    It isn't a huge price gouge for 2 hours of work.

    Here's why: She spend a long time learning her trade.

    If a plummer stops water spraying across your floor in 5 minute do you complain about the price or respect their knowledge?
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
    I think its a price gouge(learned how to spell a new word today) only because you could go to elance and put up a $50 offer to move your blog to a hosted server and you would have offers pouring in.

    Now, obviously not everyone knows about elance or freelance sites - but is that knowledge of how to use a free lance site really worth $950?

    I think I came up with an idea for my next product launch!
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    • Originally Posted by Daniel Brock View Post

      I think its a price gouge(learned how to spell a new word today) only because you could go to elance and put up a $50 offer to move your blog to a hosted server and you would have offers pouring in.

      Now, obviously not everyone knows about elance or freelance sites - but is that knowledge of how to use a free lance site really worth $950?

      I think I came up with an idea for my next product launch!
      No, it's not a gouge. Here's why:
      1. The blog owner had no idea that a "free" blog is at risk for disappearing.
      2. Suppose someone pointed out the threat, but didn't offer to do the work.
      3. The blog owner would have to have searched around and found out how to either move the blog himself or hire it done.
      4. Either way, it would have taken time to do.
      What is your time worth? Suppose it's worth $50 per hour. In only 20 hours of searching, joining elance and putting up a job offer, you'd be out $1,000 of your time. Never mind the $80 extra you'd have to spend to get the job done for you.

      Also, keep in mind that the OP provided a complete solution that worked. Suppose the blog owner picked an outsource that screwed it up and had to hire someone else to fix it?

      Be wary any time you say (or think), "All you have to do is...", because that phrase implies knowledge and ability another person may not have. Gaining knowledge and ability takes time.

      Time is money.

      So there!

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      • Profile picture of the author TimCastleman
        Vince is right - knowledge takes time and money and that is what people pay you for. Plus people pay for value. If I have a good following and then it gets screwed up because my blog is gone then no amount of money can fix that.

        People who equate money to time spent doing something are destine for a life of poverty.
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        • Originally Posted by TimCastleman View Post

          Vince is right
          I think that's a very sensible attitude for you to have about me. No, really!

          knowledge takes time and money and that is what people pay you for. Plus people pay for value. If I have a good following and then it gets screwed up because my blog is gone then no amount of money can fix that.

          People who equate money to time spent doing something are destine[d] for a life of poverty.
          Damned right! Those who don't value their time often end up being wage slaves to those who do.
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      • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
        Originally Posted by Vince Runza Online View Post

        No, it's not a gouge. Here's why:
        1. The blog owner had no idea that a "free" blog is at risk for disappearing.
        2. Suppose someone pointed out the threat, but didn't offer to do the work.
        3. The blog owner would have to have searched around and found out how to either move the blog himself or hire it done.
        4. Either way, it would have taken time to do.
        What is your time worth? Suppose it's worth $50 per hour. In only 20 hours of searching, joining elance and putting up a job offer, you'd be out $1,000 of your time. Never mind the $80 extra you'd have to spend to get the job done for you.

        Also, keep in mind that the OP provided a complete solution that worked. Suppose the blog owner picked an outsource that screwed it up and had to hire someone else to fix it?

        Be wary any time you say (or think), "All you have to do is...", because that phrase implies knowledge and ability another person may not have. Gaining knowledge and ability takes time.

        Time is money.

        So there!

        Vince Runza
        I agree - I know that not everyone knows how to do a lot of the stuff outlined. My point is, is that type of work truly worth $500/hour? To some people, sure.

        But I think you are blowing out of proportion the amount of search time required to do this. A simple google search of 'how to move a blog from wordpress.com' will provide you all the information you need.

        Would it take 20 hours to figure that out? I highly doubt it.

        All of the stuff about 'not knowing the risk of using a wordpress.com blog' is clearly outlined in the original email for free, so you cannot put a dollar value on that.

        I'm also willing to bet that any web host out there will gladly move the files from wordpress.com for free just to get that client paying a monthly subscription fee.

        And your comment:

        "Suppose the blog owner picked an outsource that screwed it up and had to hire someone else to fix it?"

        Suppose Maria screwed it up? Aren't they in the same exact situation? Obviously she didn't, but the buyer had no idea.

        OK so sure, some people will pay for it...which is fine and dandy.

        I am all for trying to get the most money from my clients as possible, but I think that $1000 for a 30 minute job is just a tad overboard...

        How many lawyers out there get paid $2,000/hour? And they got to go to school for like 6 years to learn that...
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        • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
          Another thought. Theoretically speaking here...

          Let's say a month later that same client is browsing the web and stumbles on a free lance site and sees that multiple people are offering the same exact service for say $100.

          What do you think will go through their minds?

          Something along the lines of 'man I got ripped off big time!'
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        • Originally Posted by Daniel Brock View Post

          I agree - I know that not everyone knows how to do a lot of the stuff outlined. My point is, is that type of work truly worth $500/hour? To some people, sure.

          But I think you are blowing out of proportion the amount of search time required to do this. A simple google search of 'how to move a blog from wordpress.com' will provide you all the information you need.
          You presume too much. Further, you fall into the trap of believing that everyone who "does Internet Marketing" is like a Warrior Forum member. They are not.

          Would it take 20 hours to figure that out? I highly doubt it.
          So what? Belief and "felt thought" are no substitute for testing and proving. I can tell you for sure that there are plenty of business owners who think they know IM who only know enough to make themselves dangerous.

          All of the stuff about 'not knowing the risk of using a wordpress.com blog' is clearly outlined in the original email for free, so you cannot put a dollar value on that.

          In fact, I'm betting that any web host out there will gladly move the files from wordpress.com for free just to get that client paying a monthly subscription fee.
          That is astoundingly foolish. There are web hosts and developers who will gladly charge you for a phone inquiry! Once again, you are assuming much that is not proven to be a fact.

          And your comment:

          "Suppose the blog owner picked an outsource that screwed it up and had to hire someone else to fix it?"

          Suppose Maria screwed it up? Aren't they in the same exact situation? Obviously she didn't, but the buyer had no idea.
          No, Maria initiated the offer knowing full well how to do the work. If the blog owner had sought out an outsource who alleged he or she had the skill, that's a different situation.

          Further, you are trying to defend your ideas with "felt thought": you have a feeling and are rationalizing it after the fact. That is bad thinking.

          OK so sure, some people will pay for it...which is fine and dandy.

          I am all for trying to get the most money from my clients as possible, but I think this is just a tad overboard...
          No, you guess it's a tad overboard. Guesswork, assumptions, beliefs, etc. are no substitute for work, testing and proving by actually doing.

          Perhaps you feel this aggrieved because you know that your own work isn't worth this kind of money -- yet. Hang in there, keep learning and working. You may just find that I am right, you are mistaken and nobody's to blame.

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        • Profile picture of the author discrat
          Originally Posted by Daniel Brock View Post

          I agree - I know that not everyone knows how to do a lot of the stuff outlined. My point is, is that type of work truly worth $500/hour? To some people, sure.

          But I think you are blowing out of proportion the amount of search time required to do this. A simple google search of 'how to move a blog from wordpress.com' will provide you all the information you need.

          Would it take 20 hours to figure that out? I highly doubt it.

          All of the stuff about 'not knowing the risk of using a wordpress.com blog' is clearly outlined in the original email for free, so you cannot put a dollar value on that.

          I'm also willing to bet that any web host out there will gladly move the files from wordpress.com for free just to get that client paying a monthly subscription fee.

          And your comment:

          "Suppose the blog owner picked an outsource that screwed it up and had to hire someone else to fix it?"

          Suppose Maria screwed it up? Aren't they in the same exact situation? Obviously she didn't, but the buyer had no idea.

          OK so sure, some people will pay for it...which is fine and dandy.

          I am all for trying to get the most money from my clients as possible, but I think that $1000 for a 30 minute job is just a tad overboard...

          How many lawyers out there get paid $2,000/hour? And they got to go to school for like 6 years to learn that...
          Yeah I am afraid to say I kind of side with this. It takes 1 minute to do a Google Search on how to switch Hosting. I recommend people do it more often so you can save hundreds if not thousands of dollars from people trying to take advantage of the situation !!
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  • BTW, if anybody wants to take a swipe at this model and doesn't have an idea where to start, do a Google search for make money online.

    The #2 and #5 spots are BLOGSPOT blogs!

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    • Profile picture of the author IMproducts
      Originally Posted by Vince Runza Online View Post

      BTW, if anybody wants to take a swipe at this model and doesn't have an idea where to start, do a Google search for make money online.

      The #2 and #5 spots are BLOGSPOT blogs!

      Vince Runza
      Brilliantly said Vince :-) Anyways, I think there will be trend to move blogs over to the self-hosted versions, and most people are not techies, so that means there is a HUGE market for this idea.
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    • Profile picture of the author cyberchick
      Originally Posted by Vince Runza Online View Post

      BTW, if anybody wants to take a swipe at this model and doesn't have an idea where to start, do a Google search for make money online.

      The #2 and #5 spots are BLOGSPOT blogs!

      Vince Runza
      LOL Vince,

      You NEVER get Griz to budge from his beloved and FREE blogspot blog. He's the guy in number two and he ROCKS.

      Monika
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      Originally Posted by Vince Runza Online View Post

      BTW, if anybody wants to take a swipe at this model and doesn't have an idea where to start, do a Google search for make money online.

      The #2 and #5 spots are BLOGSPOT blogs!

      Vince Runza
      Don't attempt it. You have NO idea who you are dealing with. I would STRONGLY suggest reading those blogs, though.
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  • Profile picture of the author timeworks
    This is the kind of creativity that makes people money. Thanks for sharing this idea. This gets me thinking of other ways to make money like this.
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  • Profile picture of the author zapseo
    Man, just realized that this thread has been resurrected twice now.

    I am highly skilled in webmastering. I'm not bad as a teacher, either (having taught, at one point, at Apple Computer.)

    I have spent literally hours teaching people to do the simplest things.

    Sure, some people can look things up on the Internet -- but it doesn't mean they'll understand them or have the confidence to do it themselves. And, with a valuable property -- it's important to have it done "professionally" rather than DIY.

    I mean -- there are DIY on wiring your house -- do it wrong -- you can burn down your house or electrocute yourself. Some people -- rightly so -- simply don't want to take that risk.

    Some people would look at the instructions for transferring a wordpress blog and be cross-eyed -- they'd be having to look up every other word (dashboard? What's that? Plugins? what are those? ftp -- what's that?). They have a few hurdles to overcome:
    1/ can I understand it? 2/ do I understand it? 3/ what are the risks of doing it wrong.

    Maria also indicated she sweetened her offer, as well as provided the business with extremely valuable information.

    The value she provided was only partly in transferring the blog. It was also in knowing the tremendous risk the business was facing (big problem) coupled with the great potential (big benefit). Wouldn't you be grateful for something like that?

    If it hadn't been worth it to the business person, they wouldn't have paid it.

    There are ALL KINDS of things that people "know how to do" that are simple -- but it's how they got to the point of knowing that which was simple that is paid for.

    A friend of mine, back in 1991, charged companies $1000 for a 1 line fix in a piece of software. He was a smalltalk expert. He "knew where to tap."

    (and yah, I was a bit envious...LOL.)

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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Murphy
    Maria offered a service to a person who lacked the skills to do what she got done for them. She offered them a price for her services that they had every right to refuse or counter offer but they took it. They could (and should) have also went and got a couple other quotes but didn't as they were satisfied with what she offered.

    Yep, if they find this forum, she's hooped for sure but if they can't Google "set up my own blog" are they going to go looking for her? Not likely. They are probably happy to have had their "problem" taken care of.
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  • Profile picture of the author William Gilreath
    Great post! Thank you for the advice. I am going to try that myself.

    Thanks,
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  • Profile picture of the author zapseo
    Again, I'll repeat: not everyone has your technical ability or technical confidence.

    I've done installs of wordpress configurations for a product where there was a video showing EXACTLY how to create that configuration.

    And people were happy to pay.

    Following something on the web -- sure, you can find it. But how do you know that the instructions are reliable? What does the person do if they get in trouble?

    People have set up scripts incorrectly and then asked me what they did wrong. Unfortunately, that's not always an easy thing to answer. I don't try to "fix" what people broke. I just go in and do it right the first time.

    When people hire me to do installs, what they get is not just the install. They also get the fact that it is trouble-free for them. It's one less thing they have to spend worrying about. One less thing they have to learn.

    People have limited resources. How they choose to use those resources makes a big difference. If I am a mechanic, will I make more by learning how to do a task that I may do once in my life (transfer a wp blog) -- or by learning a skill that I can market to my customers over and over again (like, oh, I dunno -- I'm not a mechanic. Say, something that the mechanic could do to save someone gas...)

    This is something that gets repeated over and over and over again: just because it may be easy for you to do, it's not necessarily easy for someone else. Even if a google search will bring up a video showing exactly what to do.

    There are lots of people out there who only want to learn what pertains to their particular area (and it can be an excellent decision.); there can be people who are set in their ways and don't even want to learn, period.

    I'm in Silicon Valley. Arguably, there should be more computer-literate people here than any place else, right? There's still a lot of people around here who know very, very little about computers. Some even know nothing.

    It's easier if you've grown up with computers; not so easy for folks who haven't grown up around a technology. My life has been spent in computers, so, even though I am older, dealing with computers is easy. But people hand me cell phones from time to time, and I frequently have to ask -- "what button do I push?"
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    Once again great stuff Maria!
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  • Profile picture of the author IMproducts
    Originally Posted by Maria Gudelis View Post

    Hi all, just wanted to let you know on a 'test strategy' I did that got me a client paying $1,000 for about 2 hours of work (this includes getting the client and the execution of the work)

    1. I noticed while doing some google searches that someone had page 1 ranking for a search term and it was a wordpress blog NOT hosted on their own domain - it was on wordpress (e.g. "thesearchterm.wordpress.com")

    2. I emailed the owner of the wordpress blog 2 brief paragraphs saying basically:

    - you have a nice site, ranking well on google page 1 except you have a major risk exposed to your business. Wordpress does not like companies hosting blogs on wordpress that are commercial and whether it is today, tomorrow, or in the near future, you are exposed to wordpress simply deleting your blog that must have taken a fair bit of energy to create. It happened to me once and cost me some money as I was ranking on google page 1 in number 1 position.

    If you are interested, I can help you eliminate any risk of you losing your blog for a fee of $1,000. That would involve transferring it completely to your own hosted domain, you have full control now in the future and no one can then delete your blog!

    Everything will be the same and as an added benefit, you can get better search engine optimization with added plug ins and I can also put an RSS feed onto your blog.

    ***
    Now I know the above paragraphs are not 'ad copy' optimized - nevertheless, it worked,
    1.The prospect said yes
    2. I sent the company an invoice via paypal functionality
    3. $1,000 came into my account and I got the info to log into the wordpress blog hosted on wordpress.

    4. I spent 15 minutes on the phone helping him with a domain name to use.
    5. He set up a namecheap acct. and a hosting acct. at dreamhost
    6. I got the access info
    7. I went over to scriptlance, posted a job description to transfer the existing wordpress hosted blog over to own hosted WP blog (including all the comments as his blog had a lot of user comments)
    8. Cost of scriptlance resource- $80

    Hmmm...2 hours of my time, net profit of $920...

    Anyhow, hope it helps fire up some ideas to all of you and feel free to test out the fee you charge as one thing that is interesting, is I now am getting other work from that company so the continuity is an added benefit.
    That's an amazing story, considering I just built a complete (A-Z) online affiliate marketing biz for a new client for $2000, and that included Social Media Package (Twitter, Facebook, Youtube), optimised blog with automated content, keyword research, niche selection, product selection in niche, opt-in page, 40 messages created in autoresponder series in Aweber, setup of semi-automated backlink getting system, setup of PPC campaigns.

    It took me 4 full weeks (min. 100 hours) to set this whole thing up, and for 2 hours of work you earned $920 ;-) That's not fair. ;-)

    Anyway, if anyone thinks my service is cool, I'd be interested to know if you would pay me $2000, send me a PM.
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  • Profile picture of the author snowtigress
    Hey, Maria. Congrats. Even though your email was not "ad copy" worthy (I know, I'm a copywriter), you nailed the right hot selling button. You hit the owner with a few emotionally packed lines (panic that he'd lose his site, desperation) and a readiness to spend money for a real solution. You gave him the fear and then offered the solution. Good job. If you DO have any ads out there and you're not ready to convert to the copywriting business, (please don't, you'd be stiff competition!), i'm happy to look over what you have. ~ Amy
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  • Profile picture of the author KatyaSenina
    Wow how did you got him to pay $1000? Did he mention that it was too much or did he agree instantly?
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  • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
    A guy takes his car to the mechanic , he can't get it to start, he's tried everything else, the mechanic says he can fix it for $100.

    The guy's ecstatic, so says to go ahead.

    The mechanic goes under the dash, and reconnects a faulty wiring loom, takes him 3 minutes.

    Guy says , that's not fair, all you did was reconnect some wires and you wan't $100.

    Mechanic says , you're not paying me for connecting the wire, your paying me for knowing where the wire was that need reconnecting.

    ===

    Maria charged a guy a good sum of money because all of her experience and knowledge set a lightbulb off in her head that gave her the concept. It may have taken her only an hour of work to action the process but she's spent years understanding the craft allowing her to come up with the idea and knowing how to implement it.

    If any of you feel awful at making a big margin, then hell - charge less...
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  • Profile picture of the author Kelly Verge
    For those who think Maria overcharged her client...

    She said this job took her a total of two hours, including the outsourcing. $1000 / 120 minutes = $8.33 per minute.

    Backing up and restoring a WP database takes 5 minutes at most if you know what you're doing. $80 / 5 minutes = $16 per minute.

    Where's the outrage about the "overcharging" of the outsourcer?

    This is definitely a "knowing where to tap" situation.
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  • Profile picture of the author JackPowers
    Great story Maria!

    I could only see this work with low-tech self owned businesses. There's a lot of money in the crafts and many of these guys have no clue whatsoever about how to use the internet. Any office would naturally have an IT guy or two.

    What I take away from your story is how important 'perception' on the part of the customer is. Your client would indeed rather pay $1,000 than attempt to move a blog.
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    • Profile picture of the author Maria Gudelis
      Originally Posted by JackPowers View Post

      Great story Maria!

      I could only see this work with low-tech self owned businesses. There's a lot of money in the crafts and many of these guys have no clue whatsoever about how to use the internet. Any office would naturally have an IT guy or two.

      What I take away from your story is how important 'perception' on the part of the customer is. Your client would indeed rather pay $1,000 than attempt to move a blog.
      Jack here is the interesting thing to note - yes I agree for low tech businesses...

      however...the biggies need it too - it will suprise you how much they DON'T KNOW...

      seriously, this client is a very sophisticated (has a $60,000 CRM software installed - Siebel) and an IT department with very knowledgeable staff...they just don't understand how all the new web 2.0 stuff works!

      Or cut their budgets to only focus on core stuff and not hire a 'social media expert'..

      more opportunity for us
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      • Profile picture of the author JackPowers
        Originally Posted by Maria Gudelis View Post

        Jack here is the interesting thing to note - yes I agree for low tech businesses...

        however...the biggies need it too - it will suprise you how much they DON'T KNOW...

        seriously, this client is a very sophisticated (has a $60,000 CRM software installed - Siebel) and an IT department with very knowledgeable staff...they just don't understand how all the new web 2.0 stuff works!

        Or cut their budgets to only focus on core stuff and not hire a 'social media expert'..

        more opportunity for us
        Thumbs up Maria! That's definetly an angle I can see working!
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      • Profile picture of the author Lady_T
        Maria,

        Your post PROVES there's plenty
        of money out there and more
        importantly there are people out
        there willing to pay you what you
        are worth.

        I appreciate the fact that you
        shared your method which has
        given me a lot to think about.

        Now, I'm in action mode...thanks
        for the inspiration!

        This is one of those threads that
        you subscribe to so that you don't
        miss anything...
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          I have so much to say about this, um, thread that I don't even know where
          to begin.

          So let me start with this, and I am by no means going to try to be anybody's
          conscience here.

          Andrew Cavanagh brought up a very good point.

          Imagine charging somebody $1,000 to move a blog that isn't even
          monetized properly, if at all.

          Sure, they have no need for your service again but imagine the bitter taste
          in their mouth when they look back and see that they spent $1,000 on
          something that wasn't really worth it.

          However, imagine you did this.

          You went over the person's business plan with them and maybe even
          gave them suggestions on how to better monetize the blog and by doing
          so, they actually made more money.

          Suddenly, not only is that $1,000 a steal for them, but they're telling
          their friends about your great service and you get more customers.

          Or, you could offer this person a referral fee for each person that they
          recommend to you who has a WordPress blog not hosted on their own
          server.

          Now you've saved yourself the trouble of having to look for all these
          blogs...which brings me to my next point.

          No way in hell would I spend the time it would take to find a WordPress
          blog in the number 1 slot for whatever keyword I'm searching for.

          Talk about looking for a needle in a haystack.

          The 30 minutes work to move the blog may be nothing, but imagine the
          countless hours you could spend before you even FIND one.

          There is a MUCH better way to do this and while I'd love to just keep
          this under my hat and sell it for $37 as a WSO, I'm going to spill the beans
          here.

          I happen to know that a lot of free WordPress blogs hosted on the
          WordPress domain are hosted by clueless IMers...usually newbies.

          Many of these people use things like safelists and ad blasters to FFA
          sites.

          So what you do, is join some of the credit based safeslists (they're free)
          and send the following subject in your email:

          "Warning To All WordPress Users...You Are In DANGER Of Losing Your Blog"

          And then in the email, go into detail of why and offer your service to
          transfer the blog to their own domain.

          Charge whatever you're comfortable with.

          Again, I am not your conscience. But if you want to turn this into a
          great referral service, take the advice I gave above.

          Now, for you folks who categorically bashed the OP for charging $1,000
          for this service, understand something.

          For starters, there are some people out there who can't even FTP let
          alone do something like this. And if they have even a $500 a month
          business in jeopardy, this service is more than worth it.

          I could start quoting you prices for some services in the off line world
          that would make your hair stand on end...like $2,000 just to power snake
          a backed up drain...but there's little point to it.

          People charge what they know they can get for what they do.

          We need to stop living in our "Oh, I know how to do that" world and
          realize that some things, simple to us, are near impossible to others.

          Again, I am not advocating blatantly ripping people off, which I don't
          think the OP was doing intentionally. A few questions to determine the
          need for the service first might make the customer feel a little better
          about the whole thing.

          Personally, I would have handled the whole transaction much differently,
          but that's just me.

          The idea itself has some merit, but not as a "hit the SERPs and start
          hunting for these blogs" routine. You could end up wasting hours first,
          trying to find the blogs and then, second, finding somebody who will
          even agree to the service. Some people might just say, "Hell, I don't
          care if the blog gets killed. Ain't makin me nuthin anyway."

          It's not a business model and I don't recommend people start wasting
          their time doing this UNLESS they find a way to automate the search
          process as I have outlined via contacting safelist members.

          The mailings, once setup, can be set to go out automatically each day
          and even if you only get one customer a month, you haven't wasted
          countless hours looking for them.

          And there are other things you can do as well such as write WordPress
          tips articles and have a link in your resource box to your service page.

          Naturally, setting something like this up will take some time, so you have
          to decide if you think it's worth it.

          Personally, I don't think it is because I don't think there is a HUGE market
          for it. But if you are going to do it, don't spend countless hours doing
          keyword research.

          It's not the most optimal way of going through this process.

          Anyway, that's all I have to say on this subject which has been a
          very interesting thread to say the least.
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          • Profile picture of the author source47
            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            I have so much to say about this, um, thread that I don't even know where
            to begin.

            So let me start with this, and I am by no means going to try to be anybody's
            conscience here.

            Andrew Cavanagh brought up a very good point.

            Imagine charging somebody $1,000 to move a blog that isn't even
            monetized properly, if at all.

            Sure, they have no need for your service again but imagine the bitter taste
            in their mouth when they look back and see that they spent $1,000 on
            something that wasn't really worth it.

            However, imagine you did this.

            You went over the person's business plan with them and maybe even
            gave them suggestions on how to better monetize the blog and by doing
            so, they actually made more money.

            Suddenly, not only is that $1,000 a steal for them, but they're telling
            their friends about your great service and you get more customers.

            Or, you could offer this person a referral fee for each person that they
            recommend to you who has a WordPress blog not hosted on their own
            server.

            Now you've saved yourself the trouble of having to look for all these
            blogs...which brings me to my next point.

            No way in hell would I spend the time it would take to find a WordPress
            blog in the number 1 slot for whatever keyword I'm searching for.

            Talk about looking for a needle in a haystack.

            The 30 minutes work to move the blog may be nothing, but imagine the
            countless hours you could spend before you even FIND one.

            There is a MUCH better way to do this and while I'd love to just keep
            this under my hat and sell it for $37 as a WSO, I'm going to spill the beans
            here.

            I happen to know that a lot of free WordPress blogs hosted on the
            WordPress domain are hosted by clueless IMers...usually newbies.

            Many of these people use things like safelists and ad blasters to FFA
            sites.

            So what you do, is join some of the credit based safeslists (they're free)
            and send the following subject in your email:

            "Warning To All WordPress Users...You Are In DANGER Of Losing Your Blog"

            And then in the email, go into detail of why and offer your service to
            transfer the blog to their own domain.

            Charge whatever you're comfortable with.

            Again, I am not your conscience. But if you want to turn this into a
            great referral service, take the advice I gave above.

            Now, for you folks who categorically bashed the OP for charging $1,000
            for this service, understand something.

            For starters, there are some people out there who can't even FTP let
            alone do something like this. And if they have even a $500 a month
            business in jeopardy, this service is more than worth it.

            I could start quoting you prices for some services in the off line world
            that would make your hair stand on end...like $2,000 just to power snake
            a backed up drain...but there's little point to it.

            People charge what they know they can get for what they do.

            We need to stop living in our "Oh, I know how to do that" world and
            realize that some things, simple to us, are near impossible to others.

            Again, I am not advocating blatantly ripping people off, which I don't
            think the OP was doing intentionally. A few questions to determine the
            need for the service first might make the customer feel a little better
            about the whole thing.

            Personally, I would have handled the whole transaction much differently,
            but that's just me.

            The idea itself has some merit, but not as a "hit the SERPs and start
            hunting for these blogs" routine. You could end up wasting hours first,
            trying to find the blogs and then, second, finding somebody who will
            even agree to the service. Some people might just say, "Hell, I don't
            care if the blog gets killed. Ain't makin me nuthin anyway."

            It's not a business model and I don't recommend people start wasting
            their time doing this UNLESS they find a way to automate the search
            process as I have outlined via contacting safelist members.

            The mailings, once setup, can be set to go out automatically each day
            and even if you only get one customer a month, you haven't wasted
            countless hours looking for them.

            And there are other things you can do as well such as write WordPress
            tips articles and have a link in your resource box to your service page.

            Naturally, setting something like this up will take some time, so you have
            to decide if you think it's worth it.

            Personally, I don't think it is because I don't think there is a HUGE market
            for it. But if you are going to do it, don't spend countless hours doing
            keyword research.

            It's not the most optimal way of going through this process.

            Anyway, that's all I have to say on this subject which has been a
            very interesting thread to say the least.
            I have to say! You really added a lot of value to this thread. You made some very good points. I think that most of us has at one point or another tried to market to safelists with very few results. I believe that there is value in how you go about marketing to IM newbies.

            I think that there are a lot of interested concepts presented in this thread however, it seems like the success that you would gain working on something like this would not be constant and probably not worth the time to find those blogs that need this specific service.
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            • Profile picture of the author wordwizard
              Originally Posted by Maria Gudelis View Post

              Glad it brought value to you!

              One thing I forgot to mention - be wary of the time wasters...sometimes some folks just want free consulting from you so limit the conversation to 15 minutes or so... (I learned that the hard way )
              Oh so true! I once had a client who was shocked, SHOCKED, that I expected him to actually pay me for the hours we spent on the phone consulting about what to do with his website. He thought that was all free! My bad for letting him get away with this too long, and for not keeping close enough tabs on the talk time in the first place.

              But I've learned my lesson!

              Awesome thread, Maria! And thanks, Steven, for your comment about how to find those bloggers ;-)

              One more thought -- I would be a bit weary about advertising this as an emergency cash method. I have found it works least well when you really need the money. It's like you're wearing potential client repellant.

              Better to find another emergency tactic and approach those businesses when not in an emergency mode.

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    • Profile picture of the author AmyBrown
      Originally Posted by JackPowers View Post

      Great story Maria!

      I could only see this work with low-tech self owned businesses. There's a lot of money in the crafts and many of these guys have no clue whatsoever about how to use the internet. Any office would naturally have an IT guy or two.
      That's a huge assumption and in my experience not at all accurate. Most small businesses and many mid-sized businesses do not have a dedicated IT staff. Those that do have an IT staff utilize the staff for help desk and server maintenance, not blogs or web design and certainly not any type of marketing.
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    • Profile picture of the author IMproducts
      Originally Posted by JackPowers View Post

      Great story Maria!

      I could only see this work with low-tech self owned businesses. There's a lot of money in the crafts and many of these guys have no clue whatsoever about how to use the internet. Any office would naturally have an IT guy or two.

      What I take away from your story is how important 'perception' on the part of the customer is. Your client would indeed rather pay $1,000 than attempt to move a blog.
      hey Jack, good point that you raise about non-tech biz owners preferring to pay someone to move their blog :-)

      I suppose the amount the client is willing to pay to have their blog moved indeed depends on how much their blog is worth in revenue to their biz ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Lisa Gergets
    Okay here's the thing: if any of you are finding these blogs, and just feel too terrible to charge the owners...just go ahead and send them to me...

    We'll both sleep better tonight, but me? I'll be sleeping on 1000 count sheets.

    Just sayin'.
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    • Profile picture of the author Maria Gudelis
      Originally Posted by TinkerAndPo View Post

      Okay here's the thing: if any of you are finding these blogs, and just feel too terrible to charge the owners...just go ahead and send them to me...

      We'll both sleep better tonight, but me? I'll be sleeping on 1000 count sheets.

      Just sayin'.
      Now I'm ROFL!! I love the 1000 count sheets!
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  • Profile picture of the author Maria Gudelis
    Originally Posted by robbie foster View Post

    I used allin one SEO pack and google xml sitemap plugin. But what's up with headspace2 ? I mean for what it is used ?
    I like it for SEO..

    right from the free plug in download site - ( HeadSpace2: Advanced meta-data manager for SEO titles, tags, descriptions, and more | Urban Giraffe )

    HeadSpace is a powerful all-in-one plugin to manage meta-data and handle a wide range of SEO tasks.
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
    While you're doing this you might want to ask how much business that blog is bringing them.

    If it's already making them some good sales and profits then just putting it onto their own domain is genuinely valuable to them.

    If it's not making them sales and profits and all you do is put the blog on their domain then you've really just taken advantage of them for $1,000 (put another way you ripped them off).

    I know Maria wouldn't do this but I think it's important to also think through adding a strategy or two to ensure that work you do brings the business back some profits.

    Even if it's just an extra $100 a month in profits you'd be helping them make an extra $1,200 a year...paying for your $1,000 fee.

    The money is in the back end repeatedly selling new projects to a business where they can make more profits.

    Help a business make profits and they will hire you over and over for project after project.

    Kindest regards,
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    • Profile picture of the author IMproducts
      Originally Posted by AndrewCavanagh View Post

      While you're doing this you might want to ask how much business that blog is bringing them.

      If it's already making them some good sales and profits then just putting it onto their own domain is genuinely valuable to them.

      If it's not making them sales and profits and all you do is put the blog on their domain then you've really just taken advantage of them for $1,000 (put another way you ripped them off).

      I know Maria wouldn't do this but I think it's important to also think through adding a strategy or two to ensure that work you do brings the business back some profits.

      Even if it's just an extra $100 a month in profits you'd be helping them make an extra $1,200 a year...paying for your $1,000 fee.

      The money is in the back end repeatedly selling new projects to a business where they can make more profits.

      Help a business make profits and they will hire you over and over for project after project.

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      Hey Andrew,

      you raise a very important point, thank you for sharing.

      I'm a little ignorant when it comes to stuff in general, so apologies in advance for any "ignorance" I write in this post, or any other post for that matter ;-) But if a blog that is hosted on a Wordpress domain or Blogger domain, is receiving a ton of traffic via the search engines and has a ton of backlinks, do you simply setup a permanent domain forwarding to the new self-hosted blog domain to ensure that the traffic is being driven to the new self-hosted blog?

      Any insight would be appreciated
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  • Profile picture of the author Mari Raven
    Awesome!
    Thanks for sharing
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  • Profile picture of the author drivedoctor
    Thanks Maria,

    Awesome ideas!.... obviously it must of made good business sense to the customer to engage your services or they would have looked for alternatives.... or if they weren't making money from their website, chose not to do anything different.

    Thanks again,

    Mark in Nashville
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  • Profile picture of the author devilishsaint
    Its simply great is that true wordpress doesn't like that commercial blogs hosted on their server I've came across this thing first time.
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    • Profile picture of the author IMproducts
      Originally Posted by devilishsaint View Post

      Its simply great is that true wordpress doesn't like that commercial blogs hosted on their server I've came across this thing first time.
      Hey devislishsaint,

      so does this mean that Wordpress have publicly stated that they recommend all commercial blog be moved to their self-hosted solution?

      If so, it would be helpful to know where that it is written, as this would help serve our needs in terms of providing proof to the clients, to help them make the decision to transfer their blog/s to self-hosted blogs.

      I hope that this makes sense

      Thanks in advance
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      • Profile picture of the author Maria Gudelis
        Originally Posted by IMproducts View Post

        Hey devislishsaint,

        so does this mean that Wordpress have publicly stated that they recommend all commercial blog be moved to their self-hosted solution?

        If so, it would be helpful to know where that it is written, as this would help serve our needs in terms of providing proof to the clients, to help them make the decision to transfer their blog/s to self-hosted blogs.

        I hope that this makes sense

        Thanks in advance
        It is under their policies I believe - you can go to wordpress.org and find it - basically that is also why you can't put an opt in for instance on a wordpress hosted blog - which then obviously isn't that great for you since we all want a lead capture mechanism for biz owners.

        I learned the hard way a while back having a high ranking wordpress hosted site and one morning I woke up and bam...site as taken down -they said - too commercial....or some words to the effect...

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        • Profile picture of the author IMproducts
          Originally Posted by Maria Gudelis View Post

          It is under their policies I believe - you can go to wordpress.org and find it - basically that is also why you can't put an opt in for instance on a wordpress hosted blog - which then obviously isn't that great for you since we all want a lead capture mechanism for biz owners.

          I learned the hard way a while back having a high ranking wordpress hosted site and one morning I woke up and bam...site as taken down -they said - too commercial....or some words to the effect...

          Thanks Maria.

          That's why I believe the project cost of moving a "commercial" blog from a wordpress hosted blog to a self-hosted blog is correlated to the value of the blog to the business owner. :-)

          For e.g. the $1000 you charged the owner for the migration could of actually been undervalued. Imagine if that blog was turning over $24,000 per year, and the same event that occurred to you (blog just disappeared overnight) happened to that biz owner.

          I would of thought that in this hypothetical example, the value of the migration was ca. $2,000 (1 month's revenue)

          I would prefer to pay $2,000 to 100% remove the risk of losing all of the income.

          What do you think?
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  • Profile picture of the author source47
    This is a great idea! It got the wheels in my head spinning about other ways this idea could be used! Thanks for sharing!
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    • Profile picture of the author Ehanson
      This is such a great simple idea. Consulting is something I've always thought about doing.

      Now, as for the price to charge ask yourself how much would you pay for a service like this? That seems like a fair resolution.

      My only concern is dealing with someone else's business (in many cases their livelihood). For example a little which could turn into a big legal matter. You need to make sure you're outsourcing the task to someone who knows exactly what to do.

      This is a great tutorial and a potentially great business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Gentry
    Its like how many things can you do at once. Its a nice problem to have.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Pambos
    Smart thinking and quick execution Maria Gudelis, resulting in an insane net profit for 2 hours of your time or even less.

    Goes to show that one only needs to use their smarts and take action on potential profitable situation to turn those potential profitable situations into profitable situations.
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  • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
    A friend owned some lake front property. At the time he developed lake front property in our area was around $60,000 an acre (few years back)

    He manicured the property and put a $250,000 an acre price tag on his . Real estate investors at the time only used local brokers to market property. He used local brokers but did more marketing Himself . He targeted places such as West Palm Beach and other spots that He knew had some real money .

    The local brokers said He was crazy . The area competition laughed at him when he was not looking . With a handful of brochures and a nine hour drive south he started the process of closing ten deals .

    In less than 45 days he closed . Now the local brokers and competitors alike thought he was a genius. You see he drove the price of lake front property to a new level in our area .

    They started listing and getting $250,000 an acre for their property.

    The local businessman Then done something that branded him as crazy again. He took his property off the market for 2 years . In this time all the available good lots sold in the area .

    He put his lots back on the market ... only at 1 million an acre this time . He had 26 lots left and sold 16 of them in less than a year . Took the other ten off the market . I wonder what the price will be on these in a few years ?

    The point is . The op offered a service for a set price . The price may seem high to some . The one it didn't seem high to was the only one that mattered ... the one with the money .

    A new precedence was set for this type of research , sales process, and service .

    Now for the ones that can do this type of service . Will you do the same type of service at this new perceived value or will you leave money on the table ?
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

      A friend owned some lake front property. At the time he developed lake front property in our area was around $60,000 an acre (few years back)

      He manicured the property and put a $250,000 an acre price tag on his . Real estate investors at the time only used local brokers to market property. He used local brokers but did more marketing Himself . He targeted places such as West Palm Beach and other spots that He knew had some real money .

      The local brokers said He was crazy . The area competition laughed at him when he was not looking . With a handful of brochures and a nine hour drive south he started the process of closing ten deals .

      In less than 45 days he closed . Now the local brokers and competitors alike thought he was a genius. You see he drove the price of lake front property to a new level in our area .

      They started listing and getting $250,000 an acre for their property.

      The local businessman Then done something that branded him as crazy again. He took his property off the market for 2 years . In this time all the available good lots sold in the area .

      He put his lots back on the market ... only at 1 million an acre this time . He had 26 lots left and sold 16 of them in less than a year . Took the other ten off the market . I wonder what the price will be on these in a few years ?

      The point is . The op offered a service for a set price . The price may seem high to some . The one it didn't seem high to was the only one that mattered ... the one with the money .

      A new precedence was set for this type of research , sales process, and service .

      Now for the ones that can do this type of service . Will you do the same type of service at this new perceived value or will you leave money on the table ?
      Troy, I might not see eye to eye with on this thread but I must admit you have a masterful skill of making a point and I give you credit.
      Although I guess I can see your point to a certain extent. I imagine you could compare it to a Gator Fan who would perceive the $300 ticket to yesterdays game pretty reasonable compared to a Dawg Fan whose his perception of that Price might be a little different after the outcome.
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      • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
        Originally Posted by discrat View Post

        Troy, I might not see eye to eye with on this thread but I must admit you have a masterful skill of making a point and I give you credit.
        Although I guess I can see your point to a certain extent. I imagine you could compare it to a Gator Fan who would perceive the $300 ticket to yesterdays game pretty reasonable compared to a Dawg Fan whose his perception of that Price might be a little different after the outcome.
        I am not siding one way or the other . For me I would have a problem with me doing this . I in no way judge the op .

        At the end of the day ... the person starring back at you in the mirror has to be happy with the decisions made that day . Something that does not effect me might be subject to my opinion but it is still just an opinion.

        As far my reply in the post . I am just saying if this is for you ... think about the new precedence that has been set and do not under sale yourself .

        I wear many hats . If I wasn't a true Tennessee Vols fan... That could have stung
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris-
    Firstly, thanks for an interesting idea!

    Secondly, how do you contact them? Do you put all the details of what you are offering, or just a "teaser" sentence, as a comment on their Blog, or is there some other way to contact them (I don't know much about WordPress.com!)??

    thanks

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    • Profile picture of the author Maria Gudelis
      Originally Posted by Chris- View Post

      Firstly, thanks for an interesting idea!

      Secondly, how do you contact them? Do you put all the details of what you are offering, or just a "teaser" sentence, as a comment on their Blog, or is there some other way to contact them (I don't know much about WordPress.com!)??

      thanks

      Chris
      You contact them as per 'your style' as 'keep it real' is what works in today's world.

      So you can email and say 'you're valued website on 'the url' is at risk...you may not know this but it can be taken down for being used for commercial purposes - I can help...call me

      or I can help...when would be a good time to call you and at what convenient number?

      or call them if you have the phone number..

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      • Profile picture of the author Chris-
        Originally Posted by Maria Gudelis View Post

        You contact them as per 'your style' as 'keep it real' is what works in today's world.

        So you can email and say 'you're valued website on 'the url' is at risk...you may not know this but it can be taken down for being used for commercial purposes - I can help...call me

        or I can help...when would be a good time to call you and at what convenient number?

        or call them if you have the phone number..

        cheers ,maria gudelis
        Thanks very much Maria!

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  • Profile picture of the author DannyLucas
    Thanks for the post.

    Great info. Thanks for sharing with us.

    Also, I have to agree with Jonathan and Janet. The "value" is actually decided by the customer/client by what they are willing to pay for something. But still - you are to be congratulated for noticing an issue and subsequently sharing that issue with the client. You capitalized on your knowledge and yet the client benefited too. A true Win Win!
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    • Profile picture of the author rayneman
      Wow,thats pretty cool alrite!
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    Hi being skepical as we don't want to get get burned do you have proof of your earnings?

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  • Profile picture of the author owenn
    ya man nice way to earn but dont u think you unnecesserly scared that person to earn money for ur self ??
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  • Profile picture of the author kevinfar
    nice one Maria. Great thinking outside the box that everyone has a lack of these days.

    For those who are saying that Maria ripped off the I completly disagree. For the business owner, the whole process would be have worth much much more if WP just deleted his blog. Also, for someone who said that he could research the solution himself in just a couple of hours. So what?

    Just because he could research it, does not guarantee that he would do the whole process correctly.

    Therefore, in my opinion the deal would have been just as 'correct', if the owner was willing to pay $2000 or more in the end.

    It is all about perceived value
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    • Profile picture of the author Maria Gudelis
      Originally Posted by kevinfar View Post

      nice one Maria. Great thinking outside the box that everyone has a lack of these days.

      For those who are saying that Maria ripped off the I completly disagree. For the business owner, the whole process would be have worth much much more if WP just deleted his blog. Also, for someone who said that he could research the solution himself in just a couple of hours. So what?

      Just because he could research it, does not guarantee that he would do the whole process correctly.

      Therefore, in my opinion the deal would have been just as 'correct', if the owner was willing to pay $2000 or more in the end.

      It is all about perceived value
      You got it Kevin! thanks for the input...

      ...if only I could reveal who this client is....and how much MORE money than the measly $1,000 investment made....

      AND...remember everyone - now the company was able to install an autoresponder and lead capture...all those leads, all that traffic...

      hmmm....when they sell product over $1,000 -

      double hmmm...ROI is quite nice!
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