If it's this good, why doesn't he shut up and use it........

by 82 replies
97
Hey Warriors,

Here is something I want to address.

"If all of the methods marketers are selling are so good then why don't they just shut up and keep working on them instead of giving them away and increasing their own competition???"

In the past one week I have read this comment about 5 times and I want to address it.

Here's why I think this is the case:

Let's take Albert as an example.

Albert know how to find a profitable market, create a website and generate tons of traffic to it. He does all that and makes $300 his very first month.

Pretty cool, huh?

Now Albert decides to put his method together on how he made 3k a month and sell it as a $27 product.

He launches a product and generates 200 sales.

In the end, 27 x 200 = $5400

Bottomline,

It took Albert one month of hard work to generate $300 a month (content writing, backlinking, social networking, email follow ups etc.)

On the other hand it only took him about a week to put together his product and he made more than that.

Simply put, this is easy money.

Hope it helps
#main internet marketing discussion forum #gurus #heck #shut
  • First of all, stop calling them gurus. There are no gurus. Yes, there are marketers who may be more successful than other marketers, but there are no gurus. I don't put anyone on a pedestal, and you shouldn't either.

    David Jackson
    • [ 1 ] Thanks
    • [4] replies
    • Go get em' David...
      • [1] reply
    • Sorry about that,

      I didn't pay lots of attention while writing this

      (Fixed Now)
    • lol...doesn't one of the guys who runs "the challenge" call himself "Guru Bob"? lol...
      • [2] replies
    • Gee, wouldn't it be convenient if we had a WORD for that? Like, just one word, instead of nine?

      It's too bad we don't. :rolleyes:
      • [ 1 ] Thanks
      • [1] reply
  • Meh.

    What you described above is just a very small part of what Internet Marketing really is, and... who cares?

    There's obviously a need for this stuff, so just let it be. People want to pay good ca$h for that stuff? Then let them. It's nothing personal and you obviously aren't their target market.

    What's that saying again... Don't knock the hustle.
    • [1] reply
    • This post was meant to be a reply to the people who always post comments like:

      "If the product is so good why is he selling it"
      • [1] reply
  • Okay, okay, okay. You guys can start calling me a guru. I can tell from David's post he is dying to. But in all fairness when someone refers to a guru they usually mean "teacher". I hope no one is putting them up on pedestals though. They put their pants on one leg at a time just like the rest of us.
    • [1] reply
    • Matt, look at all the smilie faces we're using in our posts. We're just having a little fun, that's all.

      David Jackson
  • Someone who does that is hardly a guru.

    What you described was a newbie who isn't confident in their ability to make money and knows that desperate warriors will buy anything that promises short term income.

    There is another side to this which you seem to be overlooking.

    Some of us make great money doing things but don't have a limited mindset where it's all about us and we like to help others and share what works.

    Especially in this forum - I know many warriors who are successful and happily share information here - because they want to give back to this community.

    The mindset that anyone sharing their success is just BS and they wouldn't share it if it worked is just limited thinking and just shows that some people think that way themselves.

    I've shared hundreds of strategies in this forum that have worked well for me - some of them I just don't do anymore because I prefer other things, some of them i still do but I don't care about competition because no-one will ever be able to replace my relationships, and some things I only share with people I trust enough not to abuse what I'm sharing.

    The short story is though - yes some people make their money selling how-to information and not making it the way they're telling others - but not everyone is like that.
    • [ 2 ] Thanks
  • There's the Gurus who call themselves Gurus because they want to for whatever reason and there's the really successful marketers who you never see - they get on with their successful businesses - they are invisible!!
    • [1] reply
    • They're not all invisible. They just don't go around calling themselves gurus. But your point about some of the most successful marketers being extremely low profile is a good one.

      David Jackson
  • You make it sound like it is a bad thing.

    I know I've learned quite a bit from buying stuff from marketers (both guru types and non guru types) and those things have helped me make more money.

    Marketing is all about finding a need and supplying the solution, right?
    • [1] reply
    • What is it with all the attitudes today?

      I ask a legit question in another thread and am called an idiot and here a
      guy makes a sensible remark and is belittled.

      Geesh...a few people need to lay off the caffeine.
      • [3] replies
  • Can't we all get along
    • [ 1 ] Thanks
  • Teaching other people how to do what you do... is never going to increase "competition" to the point where it becomes a problem..

    In fact, it probably isn't even going to increase competition for you at all...

    Anyone who is selling their system, or product that teaches people how to do what they do.. will know 100% that it is NOT easy money if you are actually teaching people stuff that works...

    You can share some theory BS in a $10 WSO for "easy money".. but those people who are actually sharing real methods, and teaching them... do not make "easy money".

    One has to wonder though...

    If you are struggling with this concept. Why would you go around teaching people how to find new niches?... surely the competition will get too hot real soon and there will be no niches left for you? :rolleyes:
    • [2] replies
    • Correct me if I'm mistaken but I think you misunderstood me. I never said I was struggling with this concept. This post was a reply to the comments from people who always think "If it's working out for you then why are you selling it and increasing your own competition".

      I am NOT struggling with this concept myself but I have seen this so many times that I just felt the need to start a thread about it.

      I guess I just wasn't able to explain myself clearly.
    • Try this on for size!


      Pronounced: [goor-oo, goo-roo]

      1. Hinduism & Tibetan Buddhism A personal spiritual teacher.
      2. A teacher and guide in spiritual and philosophical matters.
      3. A trusted counselor and adviser; a mentor.
      4. A recognized leader in a field: the guru of high finance.
      5. An acknowledged and influential advocate, as of a movement or idea: "In a culture that worships slimness, he was the Guru of Lean" (Erica Abeel).
      (b) A recognized leader in a field: the guru of high finance.

      Giles, the Crew Chief
      • [1] reply
  • Dang, can someone turn on the air.

    I'm feeling hot in here.
    • [1] reply
    • I just had my AC fixed (1 hour--ago), I know about hot weathers..lol
  • David, it is better to build bridges than tear 'em down.
  • David thinks he can insult someone and put a smiley face on the end of it and that will somehow keep the thread light.
  • There are many fields in which you can generate income, often massive amounts.

    Stockmarket
    Real Estate
    Marketing
    Casino
    Racetrack, etc., etc..

    The easiest way to make money in any/all of these is - write a book telling other people how THEY can make money in any/all of these fields.

    I learnt that back in the days I was running a mail order business, long before the internet and even personal computers came along.
    • [ 1 ] Thanks
    • [2] replies
    • Heh. Back in the old days I too had my own mail order company. One of my best-selling products was a book on how to make money from home. Heck, I even used to have big ads in one of the most expensive advertising venues at the time, the National Enquirer.

      For some reason (nudge-nudge, wink-wink), that publication produced more orders than any other.
      • [ 1 ] Thanks
    • Actually, those "how to make money" seminars are pretty doggone lucrative too.

      David Jackson
      • [1] reply
  • And if there ARE gurus, they do not deserve the title if they can only make $300/month outside of the IM market.
    • [1] reply
    • I'm not a guru but I did stay in a Holiday Inn last night. Does that count?
      • [2] replies
  • I'll tell you why.

    Just because we have it to share. I am a professional guitarist. If I wanted to I could go out and play in clubs every night night and make about 40k per year.

    I dont want to be in clubs every night these days though. I'm not in my twenties anymore, I have aspired to higher ideals...

    One of those is "sharing".

    what if I could instead make my living sharing what I know with other people who want to learn guitar...? What if the guitar becomes their best friend for life and they get to have some cool experiences too as a result?

    What a beautiful aspiration...

    In your 40's you are motivated more by sharing knowledge and experience, knowing that what you pass on is ultimately all that is.

    So making a living from sharing is one reason why people teach what they know... which addresses the question in your title.

    Thanks for inspiring such a great thread.
    • [ 2 ] Thanks
    • [1] reply
    • Finally someone understands what I was really trying to say.
  • I've taught a lot of people, for different reasons:

    1) I can;
    2) I enjoy it;
    3) I like helping people.

    #1 and #2 are almost always there. I usually get thwarted at #3 the most, because to be honest the vast majority of people I've taught don't have the drive necessary to do what it takes to be successful -- and therefore never develop into any form of serious competition.

    Most people want someone to hand them free money.
  • I feel like I'm on an episode of Lost. No matter how far I try to get from this thread I keep slamming back into it b/c the OP has changed the thread title at least four times now. Enough already!
  • David,

    If you stop giving it energy and it will die. I feel bad cuz this guys thread is getting irrelevant therefore peoples learning will be stifled.
  • Banned
    [DELETED]
  • Don't dig for gold, but instead sell the shovels
  • That is the problem right there.

    The marketing for his biz op product certainly will not be:

    "I just started this 4 weeks ago and I made $300. Was it a fluke or something real? Pay me $X for my method and tell me how it works out for you because selling you this crap is my new job so I'll never know!"
Join the discussion

Next Topics on Trending Feed