Want to make more money? Get an attitude adjustment

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Disclaimer: This is a ramble/rant/vent hybrid so if you don't like that sort of thing you may want to close this thread now and find another that won't aggravate you.

I've been noticing a few things lately and just thought it might be a good time to get a discussion going about my observations - note, I said discussion, not argument.

The people that seem to make the least amount of money are the ones who are:
  • constantly taking pot shots at the mods
  • saying that everyone is picking on them
  • saying that the WSO section is all rehashed crap
  • calling all the gurus liars
  • faking it and wondering when they're gonna make it
  • saying everything is too hard because there is too much competition
  • blaming everyone and everything for their lack of success, except themselves
The first two are the ones on my last nerve today. I've seen one person who takes a jab at the mods just about every other post, it seems. When anyone says the mods are so unfair and they're just picking on me, look around at all the people that they let stay. That should tell you something right there.

There are a couple people who like to claim that people are bashing them all the time when in fact, it's people disagreeing with the person. Big difference between bashing and disagreeing with something. Maybe if you opened your mind and closed your mouth, instead of the other way around, you might learn a thing or two.

The people mentioned above tend to be the faking it crowd, pretending to be an expert and proving in post after post, that they are not. Then they get mad when they get called out on it and say everyone is "bashing" them.

If the WSO section is so full of crap, what are you doing in there??

If the gurus all lie, why do you pay attention or read their emails or buy their products?

All of those who think the competition is too great and the internet is saturated... yes, I'll take fries with that.

Stop blaming anything and everything for your lack of success! It's no one's fault but your own.

You want a boss to tell you what to do every step of the way, go back and get a job! If you want to succeed at marketing, in any shape or form, start using your own mind and your own brain for something other than an ear separator.

You know who's making money?

The people who worked their butts off, 18 hours a day for some, until they made it.

The people who tried something different without waiting for a guru to tell them to.

The people who didn't make excuses - they just got it done.

The people who kept at it until they got where they wanted to be.

The people who took responsibility for their own actions and their own results.

Tina
#adjustment #attitude #make #money
  • Profile picture of the author colinph970
    Well said and I couldn't agree more.....it reminds me of a saying I once heard....(Jack Nicklaus?) "it seems the harder I work the luckier I get"

    The true "secret" is hard work, clear thinking and the desire to JUST DO SOMETHING!

    The only person who can do this is YOU.....and most people prefer to put that responsibility elsewhere, anywhere but themselves. So....rant away!
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    It's so funny that you posted this because I was thinking the same thing.

    I mostly get irritated with the threads that make it seem like all the marketers that are selling products that teach how to do internet marketing are scammers.

    I mean, I know there are a lot of scams out there but just like with anything in life, you have to do your due diligence before you buy.

    The thing that bugs me is that it represents a limited belief kind of mindset "everyone is out to rip me off", "none of this stuff works", "if it works so well why is he telling us about it" , "everything in the WSO section is crap"

    I think with that kind of mindset it would be impossible to succeed.

    Oh, and the bit about the mods - I think if most people had to walk a mile (or maybe even a foot) in their shoes they would think differently. I can only imagine the crap they see that we never even know about.

    Thanks for letting me rant with you!

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  • Profile picture of the author Leslie B
    Very well put, Tina. To succeed you need to have the right mindset and whining and blaming others when you don't succeed immediately isn't the right mindset at all. That's what seperates the quitters from the people with success. And hopefully in the near future I can count myself with the succesfull people

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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Thanks Tina!

      Much of what you have stated has been on my mind the last few days, however I chose just to shake my head and roll my eyes.

      Thanks for vocalizing it.

      What I find to be ironic is that if the members who fall into the categories that you've stated above would put the same amount of time and energy into their businesses, then they could be extremely successful!

      It kind of reminds me of the all the absolutely brilliant minds that are behind prison walls. I guess it all comes down to where you put your talents and energies and the reason behind it, some people are just bent on taking the fork in the road called self destruction rather than the less traveled one labeled success via integrity.

      Terra
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  • Profile picture of the author hometutor
    I can still remember my days just starting with forums. I made a lot of mistakes and recently even made one here.

    I just try to remember what it was like, think about how I'll feel after saying (writing) something and decide if it's worth it. I also try to remember I'm a guest in this house thus must be courtious whenever possible.

    I've also noted in forums and groups it's easy to jump on a bandwagon and pick on one person. I try not to do this, but have stopped myself from writing before after thinking about whether I'm actually helping or contributing.

    My rant or thoughts now added

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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
    AhHa! A bash that is not a bash from someone not a Serial Basher. It's a nail being hit on the proverbial head.

    Talk on sister, talk on.

    Wait hit the nail on the head, especially the twerps who serial bash the Mods with there little digs time and time again.

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  • Profile picture of the author Digital Storm
    Well said Tina!

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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      Do you feel better lol
      A bit, yes...isn't that amazing? LOL. I just want to shake some people sometimes.

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  • Profile picture of the author TristanPerry
    Good post! And I agree that it does seem like some who aren't making (much if any) money are using these forums to vent, and blaming everyone else.

    Your last point:

    The people who took responsibility for their own actions and their own results.

    is a VERY good one. I'm currently reading 'The Success Principles' (by Jack Canfield) and this is the first principle he covers - i.e. take 100% responsibility for our own lives.

    At the end of the day, ALL the information that anyone needs to make loads of money is out there. Blaming other people if you don't make money is no good. People have got to take responsibility and say/think to themselves: "Okay, I'm not making money. What can I do differently?"
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    • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
      Originally Posted by MarkAndrews IMCopywriting View Post

      Only yesterday, I had one of these types lamblasting me for, in his words, spamming the forum like a snake oil man, merely for promoting someone else's very high quality WSO. (Not even my copywriting)

      There was nothing in it for me in the slightest, promoting this highly worthy Warrior, yet this other person saw fit to straightaway start bashing my reputation, despite the fact that he only has 50 posts to his name, is extremely new and doesn't even have a full membership here.
      For the record, the person he is referring to is none other than myself.

      Someone posted a thread asking for SEO help, and MarkAndrews replied with a link to a seemingly totally unrelated WSO. From my perspective (and I'm sure most everyone else's) it looked like drive-by spam. This confusion would be avoided in the future by explaining the link a bit more. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, assume that there must be something hidden in that WSO about SEO and apologize for calling you out.

      As for me being new here and not a full member..... I have been a full time webmaster since the late 1990's. I have just traditionally not posted to the forums until recent years, and even then it is somewhat limited. Honestly, the only reason why I come here is to help people out a little. It may appear at times that I am a trouble maker because I am selling nothing in my sig. Who posts exclusively to help people anymore? Not many.

      Onto the subject of this thread, the OP mentions the bashing of gurus and WSOs. I think to a large extent, the reason for this bashing is simply to warn others. Especially since there seems to be an extremely high number of newbies coming and going from here that are easy targets for the gurus.
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  • Profile picture of the author sdentrepreneur
    Great post Tina, the only reason someone fails is because they don't work hard enough.
    Sadly...if Internet Marketing and making money online was as easy as some of the WSO offers, then the whole world would be doing it. Its not for everyone. In my opinion, only the serious entrepreneurs and risk takers will make it big. The rest will find a JOB and dabble in this industry part time.
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  • Profile picture of the author colinph970
    To be honest, I'm also a member of DP but wow, the slightest problem and you get a ban - I'm talking trivial stuff. Email em...no reply. I've never ever had any response from DP .....maybe its just me!
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    • Profile picture of the author Crew Chief
      Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

      Disclaimer: This is a ramble/rant/vent hybrid so if you don't like that sort of thing you may want to close this thread now and find another that won't aggravate you.

      I've been noticing a few things lately and just thought it might be a good time to get a discussion going about my observations - note, I said discussion, not argument.
      Tina, in the words of Winston Churchill...

      The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.
      Thanks for acknowledging these gems of truth with no chaser and may the WF members and guests glean from them and become contributing members of this great community.

      Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

      Nice post Tina Do you feel better lol Kim
      Kim, Tina may not, but i feel a whole lot better!

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  • Profile picture of the author Stormheart
    Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post


    You know who's making money?

    The people who worked their butts off, 18 hours a day for some, until they made it.

    The people who tried something different without waiting for a guru to tell them to.

    The people who didn't make excuses - they just got it done.

    The people who kept at it until they got where they wanted to be.

    The people who took responsibility for their own actions and their own results.

    Tina
    This was one of the most inspirational things I've read in some time - thank you for sharing your "rant". I've saved it to my desktop for those times after working overtime at my dayjob, I don't feel like putting in another 4 to 6 hours on building my ship out of the rat race. On average, I put in 35 to 40 hours on building my online business on top of my day job. So don't have a lot of time to spend in the forums But when I do, reading something like this hits the spot, encourages me, and motivates me to keep climbing until I reach the peak - no turning back or slacking off until I have reached it. Great stuff.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by Stormheart View Post

      This was one of the most inspirational things I've read in some time - thank you for sharing your "rant". I've saved it to my desktop for those times after working overtime at my dayjob, I don't feel like putting in another 4 to 6 hours on building my ship out of the rat race. On average, I put in 35 to 40 hours on building my online business on top of my day job. So don't have a lot of time to spend in the forums But when I do, reading something like this hits the spot, encourages me, and motivates me to keep climbing until I reach the peak - no turning back or slacking off until I have reached it. Great stuff.
      Hi Stormheart. I hope to offer a little more encouragement to you. What you are doing is how I started. Work the day job, go home and work on my online business. On my days off I usually worked twice as much on my online business rather than actually taking time off.

      It was hard work, yes, but exciting too! The result of all that effort? In two years I was full-time IM. If I was single I would have made the leap a lot sooner, but I had a mortgage, a wife, and one daughter still at home. They had to feel safe with it too.

      The moral: You are on the same path that worked for me, and I've been at this IM thing full-time for 11 years now. No regrets. You can make it too. You have what it takes.
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      • Profile picture of the author Stormheart
        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

        Hi Stormheart. I hope to offer a little more encouragement to you. What you are doing is how I started. Work the day job, go home and work on my online business. On my days off I usually worked twice as much on my online business rather than actually taking time off.

        It was hard work, yes, but exciting too! The result of all that effort? In two years I was full-time IM. If I was single I would have made the leap a lot sooner, but I had a mortgage, a wife, and one daughter still at home. They had to feel safe with it too.

        The moral: You are on the same path that worked for me, and I've been at this IM thing full-time for 11 years now. No regrets. You can make it too. You have what it takes.
        Thanks Dennis - your words are indeed very encouraging. I am at the 15 month mark, and the 2 year mark is my goal as well to be able to go full time with it, and I am on track to hit that too. I currently take a day off every month, whether I need to or not :rolleyes: I too have a family to support, otherwise I'd just live in a van and work until I reached my initial goal. It is doable, and hearing about your success makes my day yet again. Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kezz
    Hole in one Tina.

    At the end of the day you see what you want to see.

    If you want to find a bunch of trash in the IM world you won't have to look far - if that's what you are trying to find.

    But the reverse is also true.

    If you want to find volumes and volumes and volumes of FREE and extremely practical helpful advice and guidance I could point you to enough threads off the top of my head to keep you busy for months.

    If you're trying to get rich quick but don't really believe its possible, then you'll find plenty of supporting evidence because you're right.

    If you're trying to do what it takes to set up a real online business and you do believe it's possible, you'll find plenty of supporting evidence because you're right.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Howard
    Tina, I want to scream.

    I know exactly what you are talking about.

    Thread over in the product reviews...I thought about checking out Ryan's new course and seeing what people said about it so far...

    Well, that was a mistake.

    There is more bashing going on in that thread than a pinata' at a kids birthday party.

    I can't believe the sheer audacity some people have.

    You wonder WHY people are even bothering to try and get into internet marketing...they hate everything about it.

    And if it isn't free or dirt cheap, it isn't worth their time.

    Such a sad mindset. Fail for life. That's whats in store.

    Thanks for a good post. Hope people take it to heart.

    Rob

    Edit: After this, I'm done. I promise - Just had a person in said forum say that Ryan should drop his affiliate program so that they can pass on the 33% savings to the customer...

    WHAT?


    I'm at a loss...I can't believe I actually heard that come out the mouth of someone who wants to make money online...
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Then
    John Cena knows what is "Attitude Adjustment"...
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  • Profile picture of the author humbledmarket
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    Thanks, great tips; there's a lacking of respect nowadays. I guess we all need to learn how to properly communicate in a civilized manor once more lol

    I find I'm guilty of that sometimes myself I guess we all are in a moment of rashness.

    Also going to try to remember these tips. I struggle with keeping at it, tend to get lazy sometimes when I don't see monetary rewards for my efforts:
    The people who worked their butts off, 18 hours a day for some, until they made it.

    The people who tried something different without waiting for a guru to tell them to.

    The people who didn't make excuses - they just got it done.

    The people who kept at it until they got where they wanted to be.

    The people who took responsibility for their own actions and their own results.

    Tina
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Kennedy
    Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post


    If the WSO section is so full of crap, what are you doing in there?
    Looking for quality products. Not everything is of the same standard in the WSO section. Hell, I asked a simple question regarding a WSO I wanted to purchase and the seller accused me of "attacking" him and his product and then ceased selling it. In another WSO, someone alerted the seller that they were receving an IE warning when trying to access their site. The seller accused this person of being a "stalker" and a "newbie".

    The WSO section isn't all what it's cracked up to be, but it's not horrible either. It does however take a fair amount of time to waddle through the crap.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashley Wright
    Love the thread name Tina, and all so true!! The amount of times I hear people talk about the bullet points, and the amount of times I see it on forums not just WF, and people wonder why there not making x amount of money if any?? Pftttt

    The people who didn't make excuses - they just got it done.

    The people who kept at it until they got where they wanted to be.

    The people who took responsibility for their own actions and their own results.
    So so so RIGHT!!! Rock on Tina!!
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  • Profile picture of the author bay37
    Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

    The people who took responsibility for their own actions and their own results.

    Tina
    Tina,

    I have this exact line in the "building a business" report that I'm working on at the moment. 1-1, even the bolded bits. It's spoooky. I'll have to re-word it a bit now.

    As for your post - I tend to agree, for the most part.

    I don't think that "bashing the mods" is such a big problem though. I mean sure, it's not right... but it happens on every large discussion board. That's just the way things are. I'm sure they're used to it by now.

    There's one more thing I wanted to say about the "bashing the mods" issue:

    Whether you like it or not - it's always going to happen. The only way to stop it would be to close registration for new members, which is not what this forum is about.

    Therefore, when you see something you don't like, report it. That's it, your work is done. Moderators will deal with it, as long as you let them know about the issue by reporting it. Simple as that.

    Making long "rant" posts and jumping in to "defend" the moderators every time someone says a bad word about them is not helping the issue. It makes it a hundred times worse. It just gives more reason for the trolls to keep on bashing/trolling/call it whatever you like.

    Why do so many people feel the need to make public threads "thanking" the moderators here. Or defending them. Have one thread open and post there if you like. Want to thank a moderator - send them a message.

    This whole "rant" thing has been going on for ages now. It's getting tiring to people like me. Sure I'm not perfect, and I have a strong opinion about some things - but I know when to admit that I'm wrong. I always try to stay calm and think clearly before continuing in any argument.

    The forum trolls - they don't care. They never will. Why pay so much attention to them. Let the moderators deal with them, all you have to do is report the issue.

    Now, before you all start bashing me, please think about what I said for a while. It's been going on far too long.
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  • Profile picture of the author nongnut36
    I guess some folks think it's going to be easy, I am newbie managed 2 sales but still lots todo and learn excellent article evrybody id responsible for their own actions. I am goiing to start using USfreeads will use the premium monthly anybody used ? thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author tehnolife
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    I couldn't agree more with you! You must take action in order to success! You must setup a goal and follow in your entire life! Don't give up for nothing!
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  • Profile picture of the author NikkiS
    Great rant Tina. Attitude is everything in my opinion. What people look for is what they find, and those people just tend to look for the bad and of course that's all they then see.

    I feel so blessed so far in this business, every day I seem to stumble across EXACTLY what I need to learn or know for that day. But then my last thoughts before I sleep are those of gratitude and certainty that the new day will bring what it's meant to.
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  • Profile picture of the author Wilfred Lau
    Totally agree with you too. I think i'm lack of discipline. Your words motivated me. Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author theemperor
      He he I wish I could do 18 hour days ...

      I'm a wimp... I need 8 hours sleep and I also need to eat, and wash
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  • Profile picture of the author bsmith2
    Well said but the same is also true for the offline world as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author rapidscc
    You know who's making money?

    The people who worked their butts off, 18 hours a day for some, until they made it.

    The people who tried something different without waiting for a guru to tell them to.

    The people who didn't make excuses - they just got it done.

    The people who kept at it until they got where they wanted to be.

    The people who took responsibility for their own actions and their own results.

    Tina
    That's it. No need to say anything else.
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  • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
    Tina;

    That is the most inspirational post I've seen all day. There's a ton of truth to that. Thanks for posting!
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  • Profile picture of the author AlanB
    LOL... Tina do you want a machine gun with that?... LOL...

    Hey after all that's what forums are all about... lets get all the anger out here rather than upon our spouses.... jajaja... Cheers y'all...
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  • Profile picture of the author sirtom
    Dang, this post pretty much sums it up haha..

    To me, making money online isn't hard at all, but it took me a long time to develop the mentality I needed to actually start attracting things to me. That's a hugely important thing in my perspective.

    If you start something in total doubt as to whether it's even going to get anywhere, as I've found a lot of people in IM do, your heart and dedication won't be at the level it needs to be to make the campaign successful, so when you don't see results soon enough or get the results you want, you've already subconsciously justified it. And have already failed before you even began.

    As Frank-Caliendo-impersonating-John-Madden once said:

    "80% of the game is half mental."

    Lol.. So true
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