Facebook Have Been Hacked now

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Security specialist Ron Bowes has once again proven how easy it is to glean valuable user information from Facebook, by spidering Facebook's online directory and compiling it all into one neat little torrent that could be downloaded off his site, SkullSecurity
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  • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
    Originally Posted by myindiahub View Post

    Security specialist Ron Bowes has once again proven how easy it is to glean valuable user information from Facebook, by spidering Facebook’s online directory and compiling it all into one neat little torrent that could be downloaded off his site, SkullSecurity
    Thats not hacking.. all the details were freely available .

    It's nothing more than what google do when they spider sites in fact google would have had the same information
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  • Profile picture of the author antonrsa
    mmmm. Do you know what hacking is?
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    • Profile picture of the author SmashTweet
      Yeah those are freely available information, so what's the big deal, anyone could have accessed it earlier also, right?
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      • Profile picture of the author ExRat
        Hi myindiahub,

        I agree strongly with the last three posts.

        I've put myself on an enforced news/media blackout recently because I recognised the damage that the sensationalism and fear-mongering were doing to my mindset.

        If everyone in the world did the same right now, we would probably rise up and destroy the system pretty quickly - you know the system that causes 99% of all problems in the world.

        I did notice this story about facebook in the media because I allowed myself (as a test) to view some business related news. His actions are actually quite positive because -

        a) he has got peoples' attention and alerted normal consumers to privacy issues and possible abuses by big companies

        b) he has put some quite useful (but probably harmless) data into the hands of the little guy, whereas normally it's only the huge corporations who can afford to get their hands on such data

        What really annoys me is when people come here to start threads and literally regurgitate the sensationalist headlines along with a snippet of the story, without anything of their own added (not even an opinion), without any consideration of whether what they are regurgitating is sensationalist nonsense, or any consideration of the effects of their actions when the whole point is presumeably purely to get their sig link shown.

        I'll spell it out for you myindiahub -

        Some very wise people suggest that the people we should fear the most are not those at the top who have a vested interest in twisting and spinning information such as this.

        Those we should be most afraid of are the mindless drone-like sheep who promulgate this disinformation on their behalf.

        Without the sheep, those at the top are powerless and outnumbered.

        Excuse my forthrightedness, but you damn well deserve it.

        If you don't have anything of value to offer the forum, please just sit quietly and read. We all have the choice to go and read this stuff in the media if we so choose, but in my opinion your post offers nothing positive and is simply a regurgitation of badly spun propaganda. At least offer something unique like your opinion, or apply some thought to your post in order to make a point - does this affect us or our businesses? Does it affect our customers?

        Some of us pride ourselves on our critical thinking and our ability to see things as they really are and we like to encourage this ideal amongst the entrepreneur community here - we're open to listening to intelligent opinion and critical debate and even dissenting voices that prove us wrong and make have a re-think, but all that it appears you are doing is working against us and the common good for no apparent logical reason except spamming the forum with unwanted crap.
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        • Profile picture of the author Brad Gosse
          Originally Posted by ExRat View Post


          I've put myself on an enforced news/media blackout recently because I recognised the damage that the sensationalism and fear-mongering was doing to my mindset.

          If everyone in the world copied this action right now, we would probably rise up and destroy the system pretty quickly - you know the system that causes 99% of all problems in the world.
          Dude all the smart people I know are doing this right now. i don't think we have ever had so much resistance to news media EVER.

          Good for you it's nice to see more people turn off the news!
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          • Originally Posted by Brad Gosse View Post

            Dude all the smart people I know are doing this right now. i don't think we have ever had so much resistance to news media EVER.

            Good for you it's nice to see more people turn off the news!
            I hope the people turning off the news are replacing it with "thinking" , and not just some other idle entertainment!
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            Originally Posted by Brad Gosse View Post

            Dude all the smart people I know are doing this right now. i don't think we have ever had so much resistance to news media EVER.

            Good for you it's nice to see more people turn off the news!
            Here in India, I'm used to all these crap news stories these days. I doubt it can be worse anywhere in the world. The news channels, instead of showing any mindful news events or stories, go for "making them up".

            Figure this, amidst a forest, a lion is attacking a bunch of buffaloes. He is then joined by his siblings in the hunting. But look how bravely the buffaloes fight back. One of them even "hurt" the lion. For half an hour, the hunting goes on with commercial breaks in between. Wow, now that's some news.

            Back few months, a bill was introduced in the parliament to censor news stories due to all the crap.

            Naturally, all the media companies and self-proclaimed journalists were opposing it and the bill didn't pass. Instead of highlighting their wrong in the story, news channels went on to cover stories stating how the bill was "undemocratic" and against the "freedom of speech".

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        • Profile picture of the author SmashTweet
          Few posts are quite tough on myindiahub but I agree with what InternetSuccess001 has to say, absolutely right. Though not hacking but still make sure you don't upload anything that you don't want to be in the open.
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        • Profile picture of the author Saul
          Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

          If you don't have anything of value to offer the forum, please just sit quietly and read.
          ...but if he had just sit quietly and read, and hadn't started this thread, maybe you wouldn't
          have had the chance to post your opinion (which I happen to somewhat share, if maybe a
          tad less passionately ;°) and less people - after having read it - would have thought about
          it and said "huh, that's interesting, let's find more about it." So let's thank myindiahub
          for that at least

          Also people sitting quietly allowed many tyrants to go ahead and do their business while
          too few people where standing and being loud and inconvenient. So let's not encourage
          people to sit quietly. That's exactly what "those at the top" want people to do ;°)

          Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

          Some of us pride ourselves on our critical thinking and our ability to see things as they really are
          Pride is good, but don't let it blind you
          Also, I think more people should speak their mind like you do. Maybe just a notch less
          aggressively

          Other than that I agree very much, especially on point
          a) ...alerted normal consumers to privacy issues...

          Here's an interesting NY Times "fb privacy map" on the 50 settings (with more than 170 options)
          that fb allows you to fiddle with - anyone who has a fb account might want to check it

          This map instead tracks the evolution of privacy on fb from 2005 to April 2010.

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  • Profile picture of the author tsneds
    Originally Posted by myindiahub View Post

    Security specialist Ron Bowes has once again proven how easy it is to glean valuable user information from Facebook, by spidering Facebook's online directory and compiling it all into one neat little torrent that could be downloaded off his site, SkullSecurity
    Also,google this phrase `Russian Hacker Selling 1.5 Million Facebook Accounts` !
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  • 1. Gleaning information is not hacking.

    2. However, it does illustrate how information can be misused. In fact, now that Google Analytics ("free") is being used on so many different websites, plus google & facebook are starting to integrate items together, companies sharing cc information (recently a 'news' article that companies forwarding cc info if you are caught with a speeding ticket, one very small example), it is possible for a larger company to get a very exact picture of exactly who you are, your purchase habits, and so forth. Youtube 'predicts' videos you will like, advertising agencies 'predict' ads that you will buy from, etc, etc.

    When they compare your profile to literally hundreds of thousands of other people, then it actually becomes possible to predict very accurately how you will act in the future, what you will say, what you will think, what you will watch, etc, etc. And then you can be categorized, classified, and sold to based on your 'parameters'.

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  • Profile picture of the author davewebsmith
    @myindiahub

    It always goes back to making sure that the info you leave on the internet is not something you dont want someone to find! EVER ...

    as the americans would say ... period ...

    sites like linkedin, facebook and others also have very personal and sensitive data/information, but most of the time its the users that are the problem not the website themselves ...

    Users are lazy, habitual and largely ignorant as to the implications of weak passwords
    after all I dont like thinking, my password "password1" is so easy to remember and so i use it on all my accounts ...

    Statistically of a user base of 400million, 1.5million users with weak passwords is nothing spectacular .. not at all

    I also love those "My gmail account got hacked stories"

    Word to the wise ...

    1) Never put anything on the public domain that you would not like to be made public ... i think the work "Public" would give that pearl away but alas

    2) Never take shortcuts with regards to password - like taking shortcuts on car repairs - one day it will be the worst thing you can think of ...

    3) Always run anti virus and spyware on your PC (windows) - and make sure that you are secure

    Keep your personal data ... just that! "Personal" ... you wouldnt put your ATM card PIN on your TShirt .. Why? because its "Personal" ... What take chances elsewhere??

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    watch this space ...
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  • Profile picture of the author dika
    Although it's not actually hacking but gathering information is one of the most important steps that precede any attack. Many sources are available for that and social networks are one of the easiest ways.
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    anyone has the link ? PM me// thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi Saul,

      Fair points, well made - taken on board.

      Apologies to myindiahub, Saul and everyone else if I allowed my passion for this subject to spill out as bare, naked aggression. Oops.

      I guess myindiahub got the brunt of a build up after seeing other threads recently which seem to be regurgitating in the same manner as I described, on similarly sensationalist/misleading type spun topics, without too much effort applied to add any unique value. Oh and the ConDem(n)s (and their predecessors) are to blame too for continually lying and making life and business more complicated which also winds me up...

      {Switches to decaf fighting-cider}
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      • Profile picture of the author Saul
        Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

        I allowed my passion for this subject to spill out ...
        Passion should spill out! if it didn't it wouldn't be passion - and it's nice to see
        more and more people passionate about these things!

        ...and it wasn't that bad anyway - I've seen much worse "naked aggression" online!
        And I'm just in a "tell people stuff" mood tonight, so don't worry about my rants ;°)
        lol

        cheers!
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        • Profile picture of the author tsneds
          Jordan Cooper sums it up nicely in his article:

          Dont Worry About Privacy:No One Cares About You

          The tech space has been up in arms over Facebooks seeming disregard for user privacy, yet are we making much ado about nothing?

          Before you jump on the Facebook bashing bandwagon, ask yourself these three questions:

          1. Is anyone forcing you to be on Facebook? Probably not. Then stop using it.

          2. Do you share anything on Facebook you feel is too private? Then stop doing that.

          3. Who the hell is looking at your Facebook profile anyways? Not many, if anyone.

          Sure, I’m not a big fan of leaving personal details out to be exploited by unscrupulous third parties… but with the exception of Facebook using info to custom tailor relevant advertising to you, who exactly are you really trying to protect yourself from?

          I don’t peruse random people’s profiles. No one else I know does either. I don’t see identity theft being a major issue, if at all. So who are these mythical people who you don’t want to allow them to see your vacation photos, the fact you liked the Shawshank Redemption or that you had an interesting exchange at the grocery store recently?

          They don’t exist. It’s all in your mind.

          The only people looking at your updates, photos, notes, videos, games, etc. on Facebook are those who actually are your friends and therefore marked down as such and given permission anyways (under the old opt-in rules). To think otherwise is just a delusion of grandeur of your own self-importance.

          You’re not important. Most people aren’t. No one really cares about you.

          Does the “illusion of security” means more to us than its logical purpose?
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          • Profile picture of the author Saul
            Originally Posted by tsneds View Post

            Jordan Cooper sums it up nicely in his article:
            ...
            I don't peruse random people's profiles. No one else I know does either. I don't see identity theft being a major issue, if at all.
            [...]
            They don't exist. It's all in your mind.
            [...]
            The only people looking at your updates, photos, notes, videos, games, etc. on Facebook are those who actually are your friends and therefore marked down as such and given permission anyways (under the old opt-in rules). To think otherwise is just a delusion of grandeur of your own self-importance.
            ...
            meh...I don't know if that is the full article but from what you posted it seems Jordan
            Cooper (who I must admit, I never heard of before so maybe I'm getting all this wrong and
            he's a fin person) just wanted to be a little "controversial"...or maybe he's just a spin doctor ;°)

            There is a massively major (yep, a very big one ;°) logical flaw in his argument: he doesn't
            peruse random people's profiles and doens't know anyone who does that... hence "They
            don't exist" ??? Talk about delusions of grandeur!! big fat lol :°)

            Of course there are people who peruse random profiles. I DO... for one. And I don't think
            I'm that special or unique to believe that no one else in the world does! I bet other people
            even just on this forum have clicked on profiles of a friend's friend... and so on clicking
            from profile to profile... I have a passion for sociology and anthropology and browsing
            facebook (like other social networks) is just like window shopping for people! lol

            It's fascinating to see how social networks build and develop, what kind of people are
            interested in what topics, how virtual communities can grow around which topic...which
            ones last and which ones fail, what are the most frequented groups, what do they talk
            about? ...and so forth...

            Some people who study these topics for a living (I think they call it market research) I
            believe are called marketers, so I would be very surprised if no one on the warrior
            forum had ever browsed unknown profiles on any social network ever. Never mind all around
            the world, considering that you can add to "normal" people like us a whole other bunch of
            people that could fall under the label of...stalkers, pervs, weirdos and so forth...lol...
            "they don't exist"... how naive is that?? That's why I think Mr. Cooper is just trying
            to be controversial - what he wrote is just plain silly.

            "I don't see identity theft being a major issue, if at all. "
            Well... I guess his bank account has never been hacked by someone pretending to be him!
            I bet he'll change his mind when he loses money because of identity theft.
            lol, it seems just a controversial article to generate response and activity... and I guess
            it does that fairly well so kudos on the "controversy = cash" approach

            Last but not least one of the major issues of Facebook is not that they use the data on
            their website like they please (which is an irrevocable right of theirs to do: I mean - it's
            probably why they built the website in the first, is it not??), as much as the fact that
            their policies on the matter are not very user friendly...to say the least

            One last thing to close this post with a smile - here are a few examples of the hilarious
            things you can find on facebook: 9 Epically Hysterical Facebook Fails | 6rounds.com Blog
            (my favorite is the one titled "I hate my boss!"... lol) and good examples to understand
            why one should think twice before posting anything on facebook

            cheers,
            Saul
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