have your ClickBank sales declined ALOT recently?

by haze
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I have been affiliating with CB for a few years, and not until this year have made money with it. Everything was fine. BUT... the last sales I made were from 12 days ago. I usually made a sale every 3 days at the MOST.

Is this normal? I do have clickthroughs, just no sales.

~Haze
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  • Profile picture of the author J23
    I've noticed a slight drop in sales over the summer as well so yeah I think it's just the time of year. Things seem to be picking back up now a little bit though.
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    • Profile picture of the author jjeeezy
      Maybe it's just your niche isn't that popular at the moment...

      I'm sure people working in dog/cat fleas etc are just cashing in. It's flea season and it's so disgusting. I'm the one that works with clickbank and i want to buy the products chus my pets are so nasty at the moment.
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    • Profile picture of the author bretski
      Although I usually chime in on posts like this I have to say that relative to how things were for me last year this time it is pretty much "par for the course". By this I mean that I remember things dropping off when the kids got out of school and again at the end of the summer. I've been hammering it hard but have to say that when I step back and look at stats everything is pretty much on an even keel...small fluctuations on a month to month basis but when I look at three months of stats my conversions are pretty much the same. More traffic from more work equals more sales for me.

      Sorry...wish I could offer some more insight other than everything seems fine by me.
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      • Profile picture of the author haze
        I'm SO glad I posted this. Thank you SO much. I was expecting to hear something crazy, like no one was making sales. I've been doing about 70% more work than I was, and my sales went to nothing.

        I think I'm going back to the way I used to do things.

        I just didnt want to hear that CB did their own version of the google slap.

        At least I know that people are LOOKING at the products, that's a good sign.

        Thanks Again,

        ~Haze
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by J23 View Post

      I've noticed a slight drop in sales over the summer as well so yeah I think it's just the time of year. Things seem to be picking back up now a little bit though.
      August has historically been a slow sales month for me for more than a decade... My yearly upticks in sales always fall in Feb, June and Sept...
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  • Profile picture of the author benrpalmer
    Time of year does have alot to do with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author tri
    yes my sites are slow during summers as well, not just clickbanks but also cj and cpa stuff
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    My CB sales have been fairly slow over the Summer.

    My health eBook also seems to be seasonal. I suspect the condition I write about is seasonal .
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    • Profile picture of the author createyouwealth
      Yea sales are definitely going to be slower in the summer. All one can do now is keep marketing and getting ready for the avalanche. Also, if you have extra time on your hand, I would suggest riding the trends, as it is something to help with sales and cpa offers. All the best.
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      • Profile picture of the author ExRat
        Hi createyouwealth,

        Yea sales are definitely going to be slower in the summer.
        I don't think is necessarily true. It has a lot to do with what the product is, and unless I've missed it we don't know that.

        Why would it be slower in summer? Because the kids are off school and people are on holiday?

        What if the product is to do with solving problems with kids and holidays?

        Also the OP said -

        the last sales I made were from 12 days ago. I usually made a sale every 3 days at the MOST
        It's been said 1000 times before, but this is way too small an amount of sales to start being concerned about general trends.

        The OP needs to check out the site they are promoting and test it out as if they were a buyer and check that nothing has changed and that the cookies are being placed correctly. Has the vendor added an opt-in box or changed anything else?
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    • Profile picture of the author johnmags
      Originally Posted by brettb View Post

      My CB sales have been fairly slow over the Summer.
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      Talking about summer... many people are out on vacation; time to have fun outside than staying indoors facing computers.

      Aside from that, back to school expenses affect sales.
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      • Profile picture of the author DavidO
        Sales across the board are down, not just Clickbank and it's not just the usual summer doldrums.

        But your sales volume is too low to reckon on much consistency. This could easily be accounted for by statistical fluctuations.
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    It is summer so everything seems to be a little slower then usual.

    Things are picking up now but September should be a strong month.

    Tal
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  • Profile picture of the author captivereef
    Its not huge but i was making 3-4 a day with really targeted traffic and converting 1 in 13 hops. My sales have all but disappeared this month. No sale in the last 100 hops?

    I noticed the site was down for awhile today for maintanence.
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  • Profile picture of the author captivereef
    As a side note last july was my best month ever, many days almost cracking the $200 barrier!
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  • Profile picture of the author Cataclysm1987
    Wow! I had the same thing going on to be honest with you. Yeah, I think the overall gravity gets a little low later in the year. Especially if you're in the wrong niche.

    In general, people spend a little less time on the computer when the weather is nicer and warmer. I have had a significant drop in sales, but it is starting to pick up for me too.

    Then again, I am in the trading niche, so that place is dead in the summer, no doubt!
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  • Profile picture of the author ZaneAbden
    problem with clickbank you have to start promote new product every 3-4 months due many products lose its popularity and many similar new products come to market
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    Bad Economy- who will spend $9.95 on a digital Ebook when they have to put gas in the car?
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  • Profile picture of the author club20coaching
    Hey, if traffic is slow you might want to consider setting up a lead capture page and personally selling to your audience. I am seeing conversions as high as 10% with products simply by calling the prospects.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Don't know if this is the reason, but in the US, the slowest season for sales for me is in July and August which is vacation season. Picks up after Back to School.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tang
    I saw an unusual decline in conversions all of July and August up until last week. Hops remained relatively consistent the whole time.

    It's been a head-scratcher for me... not particularly student-sensitive niches (at least not plainly so).

    Sure glad to see things churning again, though.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by dtang View Post

      I saw an unusual decline in conversions all of July and August up until last week. Hops remained relatively consistent the whole time.

      It's been a head-scratcher for me... not particularly student-sensitive niches (at least not plainly so).

      Sure glad to see things churning again, though.
      It doesn't really matter that your products are "not particularly student-sensitive niches"... If they are "parent-sensitive niches", then you will be affected... August is the month where our spending is generally reduced, because we are buying school supplies and back-to-school clothing for the kids...
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  • Profile picture of the author Fabian Tan
    I wouldn't say they have declined for me, but rather there is a higher fluctuation now depending on the offers I'm promoting by email on a day-by-day basis.

    On some days, the sales will be bad.

    On other days, they will be spectacular.

    For offers that I'm promoting outside of email, traffic remains fairly stable but conversions have dipped slightly.

    With people's wallets being tied up now, people are more likely to be careful with what they purchase. So the offer is even more important now. A great offer will still convert like gangbusters, but a bad offer has no hope. There is less middle ground now.

    So the key is to find and stick with the high-converting offers that people are raising their hands to buy.

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    • Profile picture of the author activetrader
      Originally Posted by Fabian Tan View Post

      I wouldn't say they have declined for me, but rather there is a higher fluctuation now depending on the offers I'm promoting by email on a day-by-day basis.

      On some days, the sales will be bad.

      On other days, they will be spectacular.
      I say the same thing here... overall I am seeing a drop in buying power.... I am also getting lots of autoresponses 'out of office' which means people are on vacations.

      However depending on the offer I am experiencing some phonomenal days as well.
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        [QUOTE=activetrader;2495321]I say the same thing here... overall I am seeing a drop in buying power.... I am also getting lots of autoresponses 'out of office' which means people are on vacations.

        I noticed that when I'm sending out broadcasts, normally I'll get 5-10 "out of office replies", now it's nearer 100 in one niche I'm in.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tony_Brayley
      Good insight Fabian..."less middle middle ground". Makes a lot of sense.
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      • Profile picture of the author psresearch
        If you do get enough sales for them to be statistically significant and you are the kind who gets freaked out by apparent drops in sales, keep a 20 day moving average or 30 day moving average. You can do it overall or by product depending on what your selling.

        I think you'll be surprised at how many "panic moments" are actually nothing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Manie Amari
      Originally Posted by Fabian Tan View Post

      I wouldn't say they have declined for me, but rather there is a higher fluctuation now depending on the offers I'm promoting by email on a day-by-day basis.

      On some days, the sales will be bad.

      On other days, they will be spectacular.

      For offers that I'm promoting outside of email, traffic remains fairly stable but conversions have dipped slightly.

      With people's wallets being tied up now, people are more likely to be careful with what they purchase. So the offer is even more important now. A great offer will still convert like gangbusters, but a bad offer has no hope. There is less middle ground now.

      So the key is to find and stick with the high-converting offers that people are raising their hands to buy.

      Fabian
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      Sorry to but in on this thread like this.


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  • Profile picture of the author Dean Jackson
    Damn I thought it was just me.

    I noticed a sharp drop last month and june. Glad to have this cleared up. As people already suggested I recommend getting all your upgrades, more content and traffic building up right now while you still have some time on your hands.

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  • Profile picture of the author Bruce NewMedia
    August has always been my slowest month....doesn't seem to matter what niche. I still believe it has to do with folks using computers less and just being online less. If they're not online they can't buy.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Durham
      Originally Posted by brucerby View Post

      August has always been my slowest month....doesn't seem to matter what niche. I still believe it has to do with folks using computers less and just being online less. If they're not online they can't buy.
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      I think its the barometric pressure personally Bruce. After 10 years of running call centers day in and day out for thousands of days... I have personally witnessed that there are some days when entire geographic areas just will not say yes... everyone is grumpy and says "No"... while in another geographic area they are buying like hot cakes... the the two might go vice versa a day later...

      I haven't just witnessed this with my own calling experience but from watching a monitor with 100 callers results and graphs going up and down making all kinds of distinctions...

      I'm convinced that barometric pressure has something to do with peoples responsiveness.

      I'm seriously not joking. MANY other call center owners and managers have the same theory.
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  • What I've noticed is a MAJOR increase in refunds during the last month due to "I do not recognize this purchase, I did not authorize the use of my credit card for this purchase". I've received quite a few of those in the last few weeks!
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      I too have noticed a drop off in sales through July and this month. Non of my products are seasonal but they do seem to drop off a bit at this time. My guess is it's the kids and just that time of year. I thought about this last year and made a product to do with parents and kids being off school (ExRat has the right idea) naturally this is very seasonal, I made a fair few sales over Easter then made sporadic sales from parents getting ready for the holidays or just for weekends. Thing is, since the summer holidays began it's gone ballistic, normally I go work mad to try and bring in more sales this time of year but this little niche has served me very well.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Hocking
      There are always ebs and flows in sales.

      i guess I am bucking the trends but my sales are almost double this month compared to last month.

      I do think it will depend a lot on the product or service.


      I also know that I had to pay out a lot over the last few weeks for school supplies. I am sure a lot of people do you have extra funds for buying products right now.
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  • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
    A sale every 3 days is not a big enough number for anyone to get any sort of definitive answer...

    It could be seasonal in your niche, most likely it is just standard fluctuation...

    I have some niches that are down right now, and others that are up in terms of sales... it really is niche dependant..
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  • Profile picture of the author addykho
    time for us to go on vacation too..after all the hard work ! Come back for routine after Aug and get ready for Xmas! Time flies
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      I'm one of the few people that doesn't trust CB. I've advertised the crap out of products and things were great then slowly went downhill. Then one day I realized that I couldn't track all of the orders of people asking questions that got my contact info through articles, forums, and by Googling me. I've seen more things that support my feelings.
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    • Profile picture of the author AffiliateJ
      It's actually product dependant. I know for a fact some of my offers make more money in summer months.

      It's not that there are less people on computers. It's that the few people who are on computers are looking for a specific thing.

      If you happen to promote those types of items, your sales will go up!

      The trick is to be promoting items in multiple niches. That way some of you items will sell less and other will have more rapid sales. But the overall hit on your income will not be noticeable.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kael41
        You are exactly spot on. Multiply your channels folks, and have your over producers make up for your seasonal under producers


        Originally Posted by AffiliateJ View Post

        It's actually product dependant. I know for a fact some of my offers make more money in summer months.

        It's not that there are less people on computers. It's that the few people who are on computers are looking for a specific thing.

        If you happen to promote those types of items, your sales will go up!

        The trick is to be promoting items in multiple niches. That way some of you items will sell less and other will have more rapid sales. But the overall hit on your income will not be noticeable.
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  • Profile picture of the author Antony103
    co-sign AffiliateJ.

    Saying CB sales declining is such a huge generalisation. Sales in general have been up at least 40% in the last 3 months on my affiliate sites. There are many variables including, competition in your niche, competition between products, your actual pre selling copy, your traffic generation techniques, seasonal niches,etc
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