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Hi i can't but aweber due to their card types accepted. Does anybody know of good auto responders that either accept PayPal or solo?
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  • Profile picture of the author Coby Wright
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Kennedy
      Well i like aweber for the way you can make good looking opt in forms i haven't found any as good yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author Louise M.
    me neither, haven't find a better autoresponder provider than AWeber. I love these guys. But yeah, they should accept paypal by now!
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    • Profile picture of the author suffolkman
      I have used mail chimp, which is free for the first 500 subscribers.

      However, their forms are not as good as aweber.

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      • Profile picture of the author Stephen Tracey
        Has Anybody ever tried or have any feedback on EmailAces?



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        • Profile picture of the author SledgeHammer
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          They don't support affiliate marketing, though. Some Warriors have learned this too late, to their cost, when they built a list and lost the whole thing because they'd breached the terms of service. Just saying!
          Is there any specific reason why affiliate marketing is not allowed in Mailchimp ?
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        • Profile picture of the author DonChipriani
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          They don't support affiliate marketing, though. Some Warriors have learned this too late, to their cost, when they built a list and lost the whole thing because they'd breached the terms of service. Just saying!
          Thanks for letting us know. I was considering to give MailChimp a try. Although I plan to use it for my own business list, I have to ask myself if I would not want to promote some aff offer at some point. Hmm.
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          • Profile picture of the author tecHead
            Originally Posted by DonChipriani View Post

            Thanks for letting us know. I was considering to give MailChimp a try. Although I plan to use it for my own business list, I have to ask myself if I would not want to promote some aff offer at some point. Hmm.
            I use MailChimp exclusively; but, I don't do Affiliate Marketing though. I am absolutely in love with their API; actually, they're the only ones who offer an API outside of Constant Contact, (and CC's API sucks).

            If you're business model is not built around Affiliate Marketing, I wouldn't make the decision to not use MailChimp based solely on their dislike of Affiliate Marketing. If you get worried about sending out messages regarding an Affiliate Offer.. they give you full capabilities to download your entire list and mail from an in-house system.

            If you're employing a whitelisting education system to your subscribers then your deliverability won't suffer from an in-house mailing; as your sending email address will already be on their whitelist.

            GroupMail is a wonderful in-house mailer.

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      • Profile picture of the author davewebsmith
        Originally Posted by suffolkman View Post

        I have used mail chimp, which is free for the first 500 subscribers.

        However, their forms are not as good as aweber.

        Peter V
        Just note that MailChimp doesnt allow affiliate marketing

        MailChimp Terms of Use | MailChimp.com

        (f) Prohibited Content and Industries

        Multi-level marketing
        Affiliate marketing
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        • Profile picture of the author Dr Dan
          Originally Posted by davewebsmith View Post

          Just note that MailChimp doesnt allow affiliate marketing

          MailChimp Terms of Use | MailChimp.com

          (f) Prohibited Content and Industries

          Multi-level marketing
          Affiliate marketing
          I did contact MailChimp with the following question:

          "What if I sell my own products but every now and then I add an affiliate link to a product I recommend to my subscribers?"

          Here is what they said:

          Good afternoon Dr. Dan,

          Thanks for writing in! As long as the campaign is branded as your site and only an affiliate link is included in the campaign that your recipients asked to receive, that would be fine.

          Feel free to email us back if you have specific questions or comments beyond this that we can assist you with!

          Regards,
          Liza
          MailChimp.com / Client Services
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          • Profile picture of the author davewebsmith
            Interesting ...

            The only downside i can see is that you build up a list with optins and then they ban your account because even though you have this answer from them - its a grey area in that TOS says no Affiliate Marketing. so exactly how do you quantify "every now and then"

            eventually you will build the list and have to start paying - with the ever present danger of being shut off at any time

            We are talking about building long term businesses with long term customers ...

            You decide your course of action ...
            You know the risks

            I'll stick to Imnicamail thanks ...



            Originally Posted by rockstarinlife View Post

            I did contact MailChimp with the following question:

            "What if I sell my own products but every now and then I add an affiliate link to a product I recommend to my subscribers?"

            Here is what they said:
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          • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
            Originally Posted by rockstarinlife View Post

            I did contact MailChimp with the following question:

            "What if I sell my own products but every now and then I add an affiliate link to a product I recommend to my subscribers?"
            Do you understand their answer? Because I don't. At all. The campaign is branded as your site and only an affiliate link is included in the campaign? WTF does that mean? What is this "campaign" they're talking about?
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            • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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              Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

              Do you understand their answer? Because I don't. At all. The campaign is branded as your site and only an affiliate link is included in the campaign? WTF does that mean? What is this "campaign" they're talking about?
              I agree with you, Caliban. It makes absolutely no sense at all. (It's been discussed in at least one other thread).

              The forum's full of people who've built up lists with MailChimp and suddenly lost them because they're so strict about affiliate marketing being prohibited.

              As someone said only the other day: if they even catch a scent that you're doing affiliate marketing, they'll just close down your account and then refuse even to discuss it with you. Life is too short for potential problems like this, when they have such unambiguous terms of service displayed on the site!
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    automateyourlist.com is an Aweber reseller. I use them and love them. I believe I paid for the whole year via Paypal. They are also cheaper than Aweber.
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    • Profile picture of the author addice
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      automateyourlist.com is an Aweber reseller. I use them and love them. I believe I paid for the whole year via Paypal. They are also cheaper than Aweber.
      Was this from Michael Rasmussen? I was thinking if I should use this service because it looks good. He mentioned that there are actually pre-written ones in there, just wannt find out from you, thanks!


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      • Profile picture of the author addice
        OK I know this thread died off 2 years ago but sorry if I accently revived back.

        I'm using shout response, but not a very good service provider.
        Don't really like it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Marian
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      automateyourlist.com is an Aweber reseller. I use them and love them. I believe I paid for the whole year via Paypal. They are also cheaper than Aweber.
      do they support segmenting your list? opens, clicks, and sending to the sub-segments as well?

      Marian
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
    Profollow which is a white label version of Aweber is pretty good. I have also heard many positive things about Imnica Mail.

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    • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
      I'm using Profollow and very happy with it

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      Originally Posted by skyfox7 View Post

      Profollow which is a white label version of Aweber is pretty good. I have also heard many positive things about Imnica Mail.

      Respectfully
      Chris
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    • Profile picture of the author DonChipriani
      Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

      I'm using Profollow and very happy with it
      Kim
      Profollow is also on my list. Could you tell me if they offer good tutorials? Do they offer an API and integration with other CRM, CMS ...?

      How do you find Profollow vs the new Aweber? Would you say that it would cripple the campaigns efforts?
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    • Profile picture of the author ChrisStCroix
      Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

      Profollow which is a white label version of Aweber is pretty good. I have also heard many positive things about Imnica Mail.

      Respectfully
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      You can't get any support with Imnica, ZERO.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hlatky
    I use Get Response.

    It is also free for the first 100 subscribers.
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  • Profile picture of the author davewebsmith
    I use Imnica Mail service myself - check them out - their product offering is under $10pm and has great features (1/2 the price of aweber or others)
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashley Wright
    I do not know of any "top" autoresponders that allow paypal tbh, I have a few and used a few in the past but none that i remember accept Paypal...
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    • Profile picture of the author davewebsmith
      Originally Posted by Ashley Wright View Post

      I do not know of any "top" autoresponders that allow paypal tbh, I have a few and used a few in the past but none that i remember accept Paypal...
      Features | Imnica Mail

      Imnicamail is cheap and they take paypal!

      This is what you get
      Plans & Pricing | Imnica Mail

      5000 users @ $9pm OR $19 for 500 with aweber?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kerryrus
    Honestly, I wouldn't use an altenative! I had the same the problem as you. I also don't have a visa account but Aweber is so highly reccommended I changed banks so I could go Aweber. Until my account was set up I asked a friend if i could set it up on hers. She was fine with that because it was only $1 for the first month.
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  • Profile picture of the author nossie
    Autoresponder - Email Aces Autoresponders is ok if you are just starting out. I'm using them for a couple of niche sites. Though for more serious work you really need to look into aweber
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  • Profile picture of the author Landis
    im finding the lack of optin form maker in imnica mail very frustrating. if they had that feature, it would add incredible value to their already wonderful service. id stick with aweber if you arent good with html and want to make nice looking optin forms.
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  • Profile picture of the author Super Affiliate
    I'm also using Aweber but I heard many good things aboug GetResponse. Try that.
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  • Profile picture of the author humbledmarket
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    I use imnica mail. Their pricing is very low as well they accept paypal. the owner is also a warrior on this forum who has a WSO for their service.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alex Makarski
      1. Depending on a country you're in, there has to be a way to get at least a pre-paid VISA or MASTERCARD and use that to pay for Aweber. Paypal Pro gives you a free Mastercard linked to your account. In Canada and US you can go to a drugstore and buy a pre-paid Mastercard (don't buy AmEx though as it will only work on a website hosted in the country where you bought that card).

      2. White label version of Aweber very cost-effective (I personally have 2 lists hosted with xmailpro). Just know that these use Aweber code circa 2006 and miss some of the new functions (advanced analytics, time-zone based delivery, and re-send to unopens).
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  • Profile picture of the author danlopez2012
    I use goldbar.net, been with them since 2007, they spend $thousands per month just to stay white listed and get emails through... and they're very global minded.

    They're not better or worse than Aweber from what I've seen.
    Juss sayin.. keep yer options open..

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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
    Originally Posted by rich449 View Post

    Hi i can't but aweber due to their card types accepted. Does anybody know of good auto responders that either accept PayPal or solo?
    If I may ask, why can't you get a card?


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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Michal
    profollow they are a aweber reseller so you get the same quality just more flexability
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  • Profile picture of the author NoBSGuy
    Profollow doesn`t accept Paypal either
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  • Profile picture of the author Hugh
    A fellow Warrior runs imnica mail dot com.
    His prices are reasonable.
    Service is Great.
    Accepts PayPal.

    HTH

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