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  • Profile picture of the author jamjar919
    You might need some people to help you out on this one. If you are getting multiple sites you are going to need at least one person per site if they are going to generate cash flow.
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    • Profile picture of the author Epic Stephen
      Originally Posted by jamjar919 View Post

      You might need some people to help you out on this one. If you are getting multiple sites you are going to need at least one person per site if they are going to generate cash flow.

      Well i am crazy... i can do it myself i can make 10 per day... or something like that... dont worry about that... the thing is i want to know if will work and if the idea is ok

      Thanks

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  • Profile picture of the author Epic Stephen
    anyone else ? really need some opinions about this in order to start work faster
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by zoomx View Post

    Hey guys so after i opened my first site ( Traffic BlowUP ) 1 week ago, i didnt saw too good results in sales and etc.. well is new so i know how its working.. but i am thinking now at a bigger project.. I have a cute 4 letters .org domain its pretty amazing that i have it... all i can say is that the name is like digg.com . Now what i have in mind is to make a bunch of subdomains... like 50 for start.. something like : health.xxxx.org , mobiles.xxxx.org, softwarereviews.xxxx.org , basically all the hot niches that you cant find any domain to buy it to look like heath.com so if i make it health.xxxx.org will be a good idea ? The main thing i want to do this is because the intitle keyword is pretty much needed

    So i would like to have on each subdomain.xxxx.org a niche with affiliate products...

    What you guys think ? I really need some ideas in order to start this.

    Also i think this is better then xxxxxxx.blogspot.com or others.. and you cant even find the good and pure keywords available as a subdomain on any site like blogspot or wordpress

    Thanks again

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    • Profile picture of the author Epic Stephen
      Originally Posted by ChrisBa View Post

      If your site is only a week old - you need to give it much more time before you start seeing consistent sales
      Yes i understand that, however thats not the point... the point is if this idea with subdomain.xxxx.org for every niche example : health.xxxx.org will have better seo then a : healthtipsreviewsfornoobsnow.com or something like that .. also it can help me to keep them all in a directory on the main xxxx.org page all the subdomains to apear under each category on xxxx.org

      Dunno im just trying to see different opinions about this...

      thanks

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  • Profile picture of the author NoGimmicks
    From an SEO perspective you'd do better using sub-directories rather than sub-domains as operators like Google "devalued" sub-domains quite some time ago because people were doing exactly what you're talking about here.

    So instead of niche.xxxx.org, you'd do better with xxxx.org/niche


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    • Profile picture of the author Epic Stephen
      Originally Posted by NoGimmicks View Post

      From an SEO perspective you'd do better using sub-directories rather than sub-domains as operators like Google "devalued" sub-domains quite some time ago because people were doing exactly what you're talking about here.

      So instead of niche.xxxx.org, you'd do better with xxxx.org/niche


      Martin
      Thanks for your tip i will "bookmark it" ... also doesnt xxxx.org/niche will decrease the xxxx.org pr ? I mean will take a part from it or something like that... and also the seo made for xxxx.org will be available for xxxx.org/niche so that will not be good since i will make many of them and that are not related to each other... i dont know is just a doubt...

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      • Profile picture of the author NoGimmicks
        Originally Posted by zoomx

        Thanks for your tip i will "bookmark it" ... also doesnt xxxx.org/niche will decrease the xxxx.org pr ? I mean will take a part from it or something like that...
        Your page rank will be dependent on how you organize your links - internal and external, so no - it won't dilute it in the way you're thinking but from the sound of it you might want to read a little info on SEO so that you understand how to structure etc.

        Originally Posted by zoomx

        and also the seo made for xxxx.org will be available for xxxx.org/niche so that will not be good since i will make many of them and that are not related to each other... i dont know is just a doubt...
        Then look at how to split the site into themes/categories/subcategories etc but my advice would be to start with one theme (health for example) and splinter from there - e.g.

        health
        -Alternative
        --- at home remedies
        --- practitioners
        -Well woman
        --- etc
        --- etc
        -Category xx

        Then move on to the next theme - e.g.

        Sport
        -equipment
        ---etc
        ---etc
        -instruction
        ---Sub cat
        ---And another

        If you're looking for long-term rather than short term then I believe the above will win hands down over a mass of disorganized and unrelated content all on the site.

        And you never know - it might end up being a site that actually adds value for your visitors rather than just being a mass affiliate pitch-fest.

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        • Profile picture of the author Epic Stephen
          Originally Posted by NoGimmicks View Post

          Your page rank will be dependent on how you organize your links - internal and external, so no - it won't dilute it in the way you're thinking but from the sound of it you might want to read a little info on SEO so that you understand how to structure etc.



          Then look at how to split the site into themes/categories/subcategories etc but my advice would be to start with one theme (health for example) and splinter from there - e.g.

          health
          -Alternative
          --- at home remedies
          --- practitioners
          -Well woman
          --- etc
          --- etc
          -Category xx

          Then move on to the next theme - e.g.

          Sport
          -equipment
          ---etc
          ---etc
          -instruction
          ---Sub cat
          ---And another

          If you're looking for long-term rather than short term then I believe the above will win hands down over a mass of disorganized and unrelated content all on the site.

          And you never know - it might end up being a site that actually adds value for your visitors rather than just being a mass affiliate pitch-fest.

          Martin
          Well in this way i make it all a big Wordpress Blog ... i think its easier this way...
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  • Profile picture of the author Epic Stephen
    anyone else ?
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  • Profile picture of the author Epic Stephen
    well after doing some research i started to make a Wordpress Network site its more easier then others... and i will use abcd.xxxx.org it might be harder to optimize and etc.. but it looks better in my opinion and it makes my xxxx.org to look like a big network after i set up all 150+ blogs in lets say... 2 minutes

    I will keep you guys updated if you wanna see how this will work out

    And the work has begun...

    Cheers all

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    • Profile picture of the author WhamSoft
      Hi,

      I'd try to find out what went wrong on your first site before you waste your time creating a bunch of other sites.

      Get one site working and then copy the idea onto new sites.
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      • Profile picture of the author Epic Stephen
        Originally Posted by WhamSoft View Post

        Hi,

        I'd try to find out what went wrong on your first site before you waste your time creating a bunch of other sites.

        Get one site working and then copy the idea onto new sites.
        You mean TrafficBlowup ? Well nothing happened but i just want to get up my other sites, and i usually will make them in my spare time, so on my working time i will work on Traffic BlowUP (well i am a little bored of it too well not in the bad sense, but in the way that i know if i can make more i can generate better income and after that all is autopilot) , and in spare time on the others, and cutting 3 more hours of sleep i can manage to do it I did it before is nothing new for me, i can "optimize" myself for such kind of things

        I just can't sleep better in the night thinking that another day passed and still didnt started the work on the other "bunch" of sites


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    • Profile picture of the author NoGimmicks
      Originally Posted by zoomx View Post

      ...but it looks better in my opinion and it makes my xxxx.org to look like a big network after i set up all 150+ blogs in lets say... 2 minutes
      No - actually it won't, to the search engines you'll just look like a dump site if you set up that many subdomains - especially if you do them quickly.

      Your call though - good luck with it
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      • Profile picture of the author Epic Stephen
        Originally Posted by NoGimmicks View Post

        No - actually it won't, to the search engines you'll just look like a dump site if you set up that many subdomains - especially if you do them quickly.

        Your call though - good luck with it

        but why look like a dump anyway ? If it will be something like hubpages/squidoo but ofcourse i will put the content not all the users have access... then it wont be a dump anyway... i still dunno what to chose if to chose subdomains or subfolders... because i want each of them to work like a micro niche or something like that... and i dont wanna spend lots of money to buy 200 domains ...because i am just testing the market and stuff like that...

        still dunno what to chose i currently working on the main page of the xxxx.org then when is finished i hope i can get my decision..

        meanwhile keep it posting guys all your pros/cons i dont mind at all

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  • Profile picture of the author jaxrefinance
    Those niches are very satured. You will be dealing with supper affiliates here.

    If you think you are up for the challenge okay, but pick one niche. Rank it well, sale some stuff. When you get the money (at least 500$/month) you can outsource to 250$ for backlinks 250$ for articles and you may get somewhere.
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    • Profile picture of the author Epic Stephen
      Originally Posted by jaxrefinance View Post

      Those niches are very satured. You will be dealing with supper affiliates here.

      If you think you are up for the challenge okay, but pick one niche. Rank it well, sale some stuff. When you get the money (at least 500$/month) you can outsource to 250$ for backlinks 250$ for articles and you may get somewhere.

      thanks for your reply but im not actually talking about what my niches will be the health was just an example, ofcourse health is saturated but are always a micro niche for health to find
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  • Profile picture of the author sharris203
    I had this same idea. Glad i found this thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author troy23
    ok create one niche and spend a year working on it. Create enough content and backlinks for Google to like it.
    Throw in a few affilliate products or create your own.
    It will take a good year before you see a decent page rank. Then if all has gone well you can go back and replicate this model to another niche.

    What you are trying to do right now will not look good in Google eyes and is essentially a load of subdomains/subfolders on different niches. You don't want to look like you are out to make quick easy money, but rather provide value.
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    • Profile picture of the author Epic Stephen
      Originally Posted by troy23 View Post

      ok create one niche and spend a year working on it. Create enough content and backlinks for Google to like it.
      Throw in a few affilliate products or create your own.
      It will take a good year before you see a decent page rank. Then if all has gone well you can go back and replicate this model to another niche.

      What you are trying to do right now will not look good in Google eyes and is essentially a load of subdomains/subfolders on different niches. You don't want to look like you are out to make quick easy money, but rather provide value.

      thanks for the reply, but 1 year ? That is a lot of time, i cant even waith 6 months lol... but thanks for reply... also i dont really care about PR... i got my own targeting system, PR is not important only if you try to sell a site or so in my opinion...
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    • Profile picture of the author Michele Welch
      Originally Posted by troy23 View Post

      ok create one niche and spend a year working on it. Create enough content and backlinks for Google to like it.
      Throw in a few affilliate products or create your own.
      It will take a good year before you see a decent page rank. Then if all has gone well you can go back and replicate this model to another niche.

      What you are trying to do right now will not look good in Google eyes and is essentially a load of subdomains/subfolders on different niches. You don't want to look like you are out to make quick easy money, but rather provide value.
      I agree with Troy. I think focusing on one and giving it 100% of your time and energy and then building from there would be a more effective way of going about it.

      One site takes a lot of time to build and market let alone 50. You would be more apt to create 50 sales pages and utilize article marketing to drive traffic to them if your main focus is affiliate marketing.

      But if you want to GROW a site and create a long-standing business out of it, with a following and an list to show for, then your efforts MAY be better spend starting small and then growing from there.

      I'm not sure you can really compare it to hub/squidoo although I see why you are using that rationality. With these sites you are talking about millions of users creating PAGES, each with it's own unique user and pass. In your case it's a multitude of pages with one user and password...seems a bit spammy. I may be wrong about this, but something definitely worth acquiring more into.

      Maybe post a thread at Google forum and see what the users in that forum think about this idea as well since.

      But at the end of the day, go with your gut. I think it's great that you are trying to come up with new and innovative ideas to create a successful online business. Don't let anyone deter you or tell you what you can or can not do. Definitely listen to the advice of others who may be more experienced but if you have the will you can always find the way.

      Good luck!
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      • Profile picture of the author Epic Stephen
        Originally Posted by Michele Welch View Post

        I agree with Troy. I think focusing on one and giving it 100% of your time and energy and then building from there would be a more effective way of going about it.

        One site takes a lot of time to build and market let alone 50. You would be more apt to create 50 sales pages and utilize article marketing to drive traffic to them if your main focus is affiliate marketing.

        But if you want to GROW a site and create a long-standing business out of it, with a following and an list to show for, then your efforts MAY be better spend starting small and then growing from there.

        I'm not sure you can really compare it to hub/squidoo although I see why you are using that rationality. With these sites you are talking about millions of users creating PAGES, each with it's own unique user and pass. In your case it's a multitude of pages with one user and password...seems a bit spammy. I may be wrong about this, but something definitely worth acquiring more into.

        Maybe post a thread at Google forum and see what the users in that forum think about this idea as well since.

        But at the end of the day, go with your gut. I think it's great that you are trying to come up with new and innovative ideas to create a successful online business. Don't let anyone deter you or tell you what you can or can not do. Definitely listen to the advice of others who may be more experienced but if you have the will you can always find the way.

        Good luck!
        Nice reply Michele Thank You Well, i can transform it into a hubpages kinda easy, since i got a lot of experience in web development, and also that my domain just "Kick ass" , also for the start i can make my own articles with more then one user/pass You know the google news sites ? Well not all of them are a bunch of team, i did one of those, and belive me is easy to got more then 1 user and put the articles with each one of them, you have to create lot of pen names and every time you make a post into wordpress you just select the profile/user and thats it Also a couple of friends can help me with the population + with some advertising it should be on its way... but till then i have to make 90% of that, and to populate it with articles of high quality, after that people can sign up and post too...

        Also with the new Wordpress update is more easy to build a social network thing with wordpress

        Thanks for your reply again

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  • Profile picture of the author TheAnnoyingOrange
    Why don't you go out there and try it out for yourself? I don't mean to sound critical but the only way to find out if something will work is to do proper testing.

    Best of Luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Epic Stephen
      Originally Posted by TheAnnoyingOrange View Post

      Why don't you go out there and try it out for yourself? I don't mean to sound critical but the only way to find out if something will work is to do proper testing.

      Best of Luck!

      Always an annoying orange Neah i'm just kidding your advice is good and ofcourse i will try it for myself but i wanted to hear what others have in mind
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  • Profile picture of the author troy23
    " PR is not important only if you try to sell a site or so in my opinion..."

    Well if you want to get a lot of traffic and make a lot of sales then you want your site to appear on page 1 or 2 of Google search results. The higher your PR the higher up the rankings you will rise. This takes time though and the only way is to have a lot of content on your site and a lot of backlinks.

    Ask yourself - can you churn out at least 5 original articles a day for say 6 months on one of your niches? That is how a lot of people go wrong........they pick subjects they know nothing about, find it difficult to write for and wonder why they see no traffic, results or sales. It's easy to make money online, but the best way is to focus on something you know a lot about and build it up over time.
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    • Profile picture of the author Epic Stephen
      Originally Posted by troy23 View Post

      " PR is not important only if you try to sell a site or so in my opinion..."

      Well if you want to get a lot of traffic and make a lot of sales then you want your site to appear on page 1 or 2 of Google search results. The higher your PR the higher up the rankings you will rise. This takes time though and the only way is to have a lot of content on your site and a lot of backlinks.

      Ask yourself - can you churn out at least 5 original articles a day for say 6 months on one of your niches? That is how a lot of people go wrong........they pick subjects they know nothing about, find it difficult to write for and wonder why they see no traffic, results or sales. It's easy to make money online, but the best way is to focus on something you know a lot about and build it up over time.

      Well you are right but are many ways to get on page 1 of google besides the article marketing, that is just 1 strategy , also the content will be easy for me , since i did my research till now and i have my hard drive exploding with unique made articles for many niches also the videos are coming too, not to forget some ppc, for the most important ones only and also a very special tool . Oh, and PR is easy to get, and i mean a high pr not 1,2,3 You just need couple of backlinks on 8+ Pr sites , and 1 link there is more then 30 on other 0/1/2 pr sites

      Thanks again for reply troy

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  • Profile picture of the author troy23
    Sounds like you are pretty dedicated.
    Hope it goes well for you man.
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    • Profile picture of the author Epic Stephen
      Originally Posted by troy23 View Post

      Sounds like you are pretty dedicated.
      Hope it goes well for you man.
      Appreciate it Really thanks , i wish you the same .


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    • Profile picture of the author Amod Oke
      Like someone up said, to make this work, you ARE going to need the help of few guys, coz you know better than me... you do require efforts to get each one of your sub-domains at the top...

      Regards,
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      • Profile picture of the author Epic Stephen
        Originally Posted by Amod Oke View Post

        Like someone up said, to make this work, you ARE going to need the help of few guys, coz you know better than me... you do require efforts to get each one of your sub-domains at the top...

        Regards,
        Amod

        Well i dont got anymore guys to trust at least not in the offline world, in online who knows, i didnt searched yet ... Oh and 90% Of my friends are like party guys and stuff, they only know to chat on internet , but then again i think i will manage with this, is not big deal after all, i got 5+ years experience in web development ... and made projects bigger then this... the only thing i am concerned is not about the sites and stuff like that, is about not to fail in monetize it correctly, I mean the main problem is i dont know what to chose, clickbank,adsense, cpa...

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