Which Converts Better? Free WSO or Selling a Product to WSO?

ChrisBa

14 years ago

I likle building a list personally

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Mister Bryan

14 years ago

Well...you can actually do both! When warriors buy your WSO, before the access the download page, they have to fill in an opt-in form and this becomes ur buyers list.

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regska

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Mister Bryan

Well...you can actually do both! When warriors buy your WSO, before the access the download page, they have to fill in an opt-in form and this becomes ur buyers list.

Thanks for the advice. Of course the opt-in should be optional right?

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RodriguezC 14 years ago

both work well, but if you want big money, I recommend you something for free to create your list
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regska

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

As Gene says above, of course the opt-in has to be optional unless previously announced, before payment (otherwise you're imposing a new term of the contract on people after they pay: clearly not an approach to endear you to anyone!).

But in my opinion there's nothing wrong with requiring opt-in before product delivery if you specify clearly in advance that that's part of the conditions of sale.

Thanks for the advice Alexa. I'm planning to buy 2 wso's offering a free product to build my list and sell something at the same time, or most likely I might try to just buy 1 wso and sell something while building a list by putting an opt-in form on the download page, that way I'm building a buyers list, a very responsive list.

What do you think?

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- regska 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Alexa Smith
  
  I think both can work well - but I've never done a WSO so am not the right person to ask; sorry!
  
  Really? It's ok then, I just never thought that you've never done WSO yet as I always see you provide helpful posts here.
  
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Gene Pimentel

14 years ago

Sure you can do both at the same time, but consider the fact that when you sell a product, you'll have far fewer names to add to your mailing list than if your WSO offered a freebie. And yes, if you sell a product, an opt-in should be optional.

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regska

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Gene Pimentel

Sure you can do both at the same time, but consider the fact that when you sell a product, you'll have far fewer names to add to your mailing list than if your WSO offered a freebie. And yes, if you sell a product, an opt-in should be optional.

Thanks Gene! I'm planning to buy 2 wso's. one is to offer a free product and the other one is to sell something and see what result it can give me.

Or might as well try to just buy 1 wso and sell something while building a list by putting an opt-in form on the thank you page. What do you think?

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Glenn Leader

14 years ago

I'd rather build a list of proven buyers rather than a list
of freebie seekers. I'd add an incentive to get buyers on
my list rather than force them to join.

I personally refuse to be forced to join a list to gets
something I've already paid for, and sometimes issue
a refund request.

Just my Tuppence Worth

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regska

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Glenn Leader

I'd rather build a list of proven buyers rather than a list
of freebie seekers. I'd add an incentive to get buyers on
my list rather than force them to join.

I personally refuse to be forced to join a list to gets
something I've already paid for, and sometimes issue
a refund request.

Just my Tuppence Worth

Glenn

I totally agree with you. I might add another freebie after they bought my product, and put it on the thank you page, that way, they have an option to enter their email address if they want to also get the unannounced bonus.

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Gene Pimentel

14 years ago

Bingo! It's not hard to get almost ALL buyers on your list once they've purchased, bu offering an additional bonus for free. Just don't make it mandatory or you'll have a list of very resentful people.

Originally Posted by Glenn Leader

I'd rather build a list of proven buyers rather than a list
of freebie seekers. I'd add an incentive to get buyers on
my list rather than force them to join.

I personally refuse to be forced to join a list to gets
something I've already paid for, and sometimes issue
a refund request.

Just my Tuppence Worth

Glenn

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bay37 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Glenn Leader

I'd rather build a list of proven buyers rather than a list of freebie seekers.

Absolutely. This is one of the reasons why some people charge <$10 for WSOs that they can easily afford to give out for free. Pre-qualifying your list.
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- regska 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by bay37
  
  Absolutely. This is one of the reasons why some people charge <$10 for WSOs that they can easily afford to give out for free. Pre-qualifying your list.
  
  Right. You can determine a person if they buy a $7 product instead of giving it out for free. At least you have proven that person can buy.
  
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tehnolife

Banned 14 years ago

You can make a list of freebie, but you can test them if they buy something. After they subsribe you can put on the "thank you" page , a low offer( a few $), and you will see how many will buy something!

Originally Posted by Glenn Leader

I'd rather build a list of proven buyers rather than a list
of freebie seekers. I'd add an incentive to get buyers on
my list rather than force them to join.

I personally refuse to be forced to join a list to gets
something I've already paid for, and sometimes issue
a refund request.

Just my Tuppence Worth

Glenn

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Fairwar

14 years ago

Hello,
I personally likes to sell a product to WSO because i gets to see the result of it. By offering the Free product to get mailing list is just the before step,Don't you think so? It is definitely very important too as it is the before step before you can actually not waiting for miracle. However, you can also get more mailing list after you sold a product. Keep in mind, a lot of people wouldn't fill out the opt-in since tend to be lazy but still a good thing to do.

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Brad Spencer

14 years ago

Ya know...getting buyers onto a list isn't a big deal if you just parse the paypal email and automatically add them without asking. It's a way to keep in touch with them with product updates, bonuses, etc.

If you frame the opt in as benefitting them...no one should have a problem. I can understand people's annoyance with a seperate opt in form after the purchase...avoid it with setting up the parsing that aweber makes super cake easy.

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regska

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Brad Spencer

Ya know...getting buyers onto a list isn't a big deal if you just parse the paypal email and automatically add them without asking. It's a way to keep in touch with them with product updates, bonuses, etc.

If you frame the opt in as benefitting them...no one should have a problem. I can understand people's annoyance with a seperate opt in form after the purchase...avoid it with setting up the parsing that aweber makes super cake easy.

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Brad

Thanks for the advice. But would it trigger you to a spam complaint since you will email them in the future without them opting-in? If it's not, then I will definitely parse their paypal email address through aweber.

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Glenn Leader

14 years ago

Originally Posted by regska

Thanks for the advice. But would it trigger you to a spam complaint since you will email them in the future without them opting-in? If it's not, then I will definitely parse their paypal email address through aweber.

Just send them a thank you email automatically, with link to their download, and maybe a bonus too. You'll never get any complaints, as they can opt-out if they want to. Follow up a week or so later to find out how they're getting on, and add a tip to getting more out of your products. Pretty soon, they'd look forwards to reading your emails.

Spam is unsolicited commercial email, as buyers of your products that gives you certain implied permission to contact them.

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Brad Spencer

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Glenn Leader

Just send them a thank you email automatically, with link to their download, and maybe a bonus too. You'll never get any complaints, as they can opt-out if they want to. Follow up a week or so later to find out how they're getting on, and add a tip to getting more out of your products. Pretty soon, they'd look forwards to reading your emails.

Spam is unsolicited commercial email, as buyers of your products that gives you certain implied permission to contact them.

Glenn

Exactly Glenn...couldn't say it better.

Regska...don't worry so much...creating a free WSO is very simple and if you keep bumping it you'll have a list in no time flat....in a matter of a week or so.

Paid products and One Time Offer sales on your Free WSO can monetize this whole system until you can learn new things to scale it. You just gotta get it first so just do it

By the end of today you can have a free WSO growing your list...

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Brad

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regska

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Brad Spencer

Exactly Glenn...couldn't say it better.

Regska...don't worry so much...creating a free WSO is very simple and if you keep bumping it you'll have a list in no time flat....in a matter of a week or so.

Paid products and One Time Offer sales on your Free WSO can monetize this whole system until you can learn new things to scale it. You just gotta get it first so just do it

By the end of today you can have a free WSO growing your list...

Cheers,

Brad

Thanks for the encouragement Brad. I'll soon buy my first WSO and see what result it can give me. And just like what you've said, I just gotta get it first and just do it.

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CianMcCarthy

Banned 14 years ago

Start off with a free WSO..then quickly start selling with your new WSO's.

Then again George Brown's first WSO was Google Sniper

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regska

14 years ago

Originally Posted by CianMcCarthy

Start off with a free WSO..then quickly start selling with your new WSO's.

Then again George Brown's first WSO was Google Sniper

Thanks for the advice. Some say to start a free WSO to build a list then monetize through proper sales funnel, others are saying to start selling a low cost $7-$10 valuable report to build a buyers list while earning some money.

I guess I'll try doing both and see which one works better.

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Ross Vegas

14 years ago

Obviously the offer is most important, but don't forget, timing plays a huge role....

Whatever you choose you'll want to do more than one bump if you can afford it.

I've had some days do almost nothing, and some just go crazy with signups or sales. All depends on how many people are viewing that day and how slow or fast the other bumps are going.

As for the original question, both convert as good as the other if your copy and offer is solid.

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regska

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ross Vegas

Obviously the offer is most important, but don't forget, timing plays a huge role....

Whatever you choose you'll want to do more than one bump if you can afford it.

I've had some days do almost nothing, and some just go crazy with signups or sales. All depends on how many people are viewing that day and how slow or fast the other bumps are going.

As for the original question, both convert as good as the other if your copy and offer is solid.

Thanks for the advice about timing. From my observation, I always log in here in WF from 3am-7am EST, and the average people viewing WSO section during that time is around 600-1,000. Is that already a good number? Or is there a better numbers outside that time period?

Can you also tell me the best time to post WSO based on your experience with more than thousands of people viewing that section?

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